Do You Believe All ''Men'' Are Created Equal?

[Kat]

If this has been posted here, forgive me. If not yft. I have posted this poll other places, and was a bit stunned with the replies.

So, Do you believe all ''men'' are created equal? Whatever your answer, please explain..

 

[Si modo]

If this has been posted here, forgive me. If not yft. I have posted this poll other places, and was a bit stunned with the replies.

So, Do you believe all ''men'' are created equal? Whatever your answer, please explain..

No, I don't believe all individuals are created equally. For example, IQ is generally thought to be a trait from birth. It follows a normal distribution, so not all are equal in intelligence.

But I DO believe that all men are created equally in deserving an opportunity to succeed at life, whatever success is to them personally.

 

[Chris]

No, the people in Montana are more equal than the people in Texas.

At least in the U.S. Senate.

 

[Kat]

If this has been posted here, forgive me. If not yft. I have posted this poll other places, and was a bit stunned with the replies.

So, Do you believe all ''men'' are created equal? Whatever your answer, please explain..

No, I don't believe all individuals are created equally. For example, IQ is generally thought to be a trait from birth. It follows a normal distribution, so not all are equal on intelligence.

But I DO believe that all men are created equally in deserving an opportunity to succeed at life, whatever success is to them personally.

We all have differences, but that is not really what I am after, though you did hit it with your last sentence.

I do believe all are created equal, just as our Constitution, and the Bible states.

 

[Mr. H.]

We're talking creation here. Theology. The study of Theo.

 

[Kat]

We're talking creation here. Theology. The study of Theo.

LOL Naw. Just wondering what people think...so waht do you think. Are all men created equal?

 

[The T]

If this has been posted here, forgive me. If not yft. I have posted this poll other places, and was a bit stunned with the replies.

So, Do you believe all ''men'' are created equal? Whatever your answer, please explain..

No, I don't believe all individuals are created equally. For example, IQ is generally thought to be a trait from birth. It follows a normal distribution, so not all are equal on intelligence.

But I DO believe that all men are created equally in deserving an opportunity to succeed at life, whatever success is to them personally.

We all have differences, but that is not really what I am after, though you did hit it with your last sentence.

I do believe all are created equal, just as our Constitution, and the Bible states.

Not to mention this passage to King George (With Love) from the Founders....

...[The Declaration Of Independence] "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness..."

 

[Kat]

No, I don't believe all individuals are created equally. For example, IQ is generally thought to be a trait from birth. It follows a normal distribution, so not all are equal on intelligence.

But I DO believe that all men are created equally in deserving an opportunity to succeed at life, whatever success is to them personally.

We all have differences, but that is not really what I am after, though you did hit it with your last sentence.

I do believe all are created equal, just as our Constitution, and the Bible states.

Not to mention this passage to King George (With Love) from the Founders....

...[The Declaration Of Independence] "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness..."

 

[Zander]

No, I don't believe all individuals are created equally. For example, IQ is generally thought to be a trait from birth. It follows a normal distribution, so not all are equal on intelligence.

But I DO believe that all men are created equally in deserving an opportunity to succeed at life, whatever success is to them personally.

We all have differences, but that is not really what I am after, though you did hit it with your last sentence.

I do believe all are created equal, just as our Constitution, and the Bible states.

Not to mention this passage to King George (With Love) from the Founders....

...[The Declaration Of Independence] "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness..."

My sentiments exactly.

 

[xsited1]

If this has been posted here, forgive me. If not yft. I have posted this poll other places, and was a bit stunned with the replies.

So, Do you believe all ''men'' are created equal? Whatever your answer, please explain..

Created, yes. There is no partiality with God. (I wonder what atheists and agnostics think?)

 

[JW Frogen]

I assert the accurate question would be did all human primates evolve to be equal?

The straight answer if fuck no.

That is why we, like other primates are subject to dominance hierarchies, and no matter what form of government, fascist, communist, socialist, anarchistic, corporate, democratic, one finds dominance hierarchies.

Why?

Because I keep telling you people despite our nice constitutions and philosophical pretensions, we are really not that far down from the trees.

Hell, I prefer the view up there.

 

[Kat]

I assert the accurate question would be did all human primates evolve to be equal?

The straight answer if fuck no.

That is why we, like other primates are subject to dominance hierarchies, and no matter what form of government, fascist, communist, socialist, anarchistic, corporate, democratic, one finds dominance hierarchies.

Why?

Because I keep telling you people despite our nice constitutions and philosophical pretensions, we are really not that far down from the trees.

Hell, I prefer the view up there.

You are free to assert all you want, but in this thread, my assertion would be the correct one.

 

[JW Frogen]

You are free to assert all you want, but in this thread, my assertion would be the correct one.

The road to delusion is straight, no turns, bumps or car wrecks.

But there are speed limits.

 

[Kat]

You are free to assert all you want, but in this thread, my assertion would be the correct one.

The road to delusion is straight, no turns or car wrecks.

I am glad you realize that.

 

[garyd]

The idea behind the statement isn't that we are all cut from the same cloth but that we ought all to be treated the same in terms of justice.

 

[The T]

You are free to assert all you want, but in this thread, my assertion would be the correct one.

The road to delusion is straight, no turns, bumps or car wrecks.

But there are speed limits.

And those Limits as crafted by the Founders were pointed at Government, rather than the PEOPLE. Agreed?

 

[JW Frogen]

The idea behind the statement isn't that we are all cut from the same cloth but that we ought all to be treated the same in terms of justice.

Well, any real justice starts with the Machiavellian principal we are not all equal and so the weak must be represented, protected.

Of course if one looks at the US justice system dominance hierarchies rule yet again, both in its application and administration.


Sorry, I am just not in a hand holding, walking down lollipop lane mood today.

 

[JW Frogen]

And those Limits as crafted by the Founders were pointed at Government, rather than the PEOPLE. Agreed?

The founders pointed those limits both at government and the mob, believe me most of the founders were just as fearful of the people as they were of the government, (because they were at the top on the dominance hiearchy) indeed more so. Ever wonder why so many "founders" entered government to govern "the people".

 

[rdean]

I think that most Republicans feel they are a little "more" equal.

 

[Kat]

The idea behind the statement isn't that we are all cut from the same cloth but that we ought all to be treated the same in terms of justice.

Well, any real justice starts with the Machiavellian principal we are not all equal and so the weak must be represented, protected.

Of course if one looks at the US justice system dominance hierarchies rule yet again, both in its application and administration.


Sorry, I am just not in a hand holding, walking down lollipop lane mood today.

You miss the point of it all. This isn't about how we act..who has more money..etc.
It isn't about what we have done. Or how our lives are.

Do you think there are ones you are better than? Are there ones better than you?