Do Natural Rights Actually Exist?

[dblack]

"preconceived notions?"

Right. Like my natural rights I got them at birth.

LOL

Or, whip it out in public and embarrass yourself.

 

[Dante]

I could laugh sarcastically about how you use the word "sciene", ignorant. But I do not do so. Extremely short: Believers in science are not scientists. A real scientist doubts what we know. But one thing in this context here is totally clear. Under normal living conditions, a woman's fertilized egg cell becomes something more than just a brain in a utopian bottle. The egg cell will become a human being - but it takes a whole village to raise a human being. No women left alone. No men who don't take responsibility and win themselve to death.

Wow!

An "egg cell will become a human being?" I believe your confused again. No human being comes from "a" cell.

 

[Dante]

Or, whip it out in public and embarrass yourself.

I've done that before. Got lots of interest. Paid well.

 

[dblack]

I've done that before. Got lots of interest. Paid well.

Alrighty then!

 

[Dante]

Alrighty then!

Look how long you've kept this going.

Here



now get some rest

 

[zaangalewa]

Procrustes Stretched

Why do I not have the feeling you are a humorful existence although you laugh theoretically a lot.

 

[Dante]

Procrustes Stretched

Why do I not have the feeling you are a humorful existence although you laugh theoretically a lot.

Because your mind is warped, poisoned, damaged, in distress?

 

[zaangalewa]

You: Mistaking myths and metaphors for what they are not.

What is not what, abstrahot?

If you think I give two craps what will happen to our species hundreds of millions of years from now... you are retarded. ...

That's why you are dead. Normal people for example are interested in researching with billions of dollar what had happened billions of years ago. And you do not like to waste only one plausible thought into the future of all mankind. Some hundred million years is not a lot of time. So why to go into direction of an inevitable death of all mankind? Because you like to transport drugs from South-America to Europe in your own private submarine?

 

[Dante]

What is not what, abstrahot?



That's why you are dead. Normals perop for example are interetwed in researchign woitzh niiosoisund of golalrs ahwt ahd hehehend billions of years ago. And you do not like to waste only one plausible thought into the future of all mankind. Some hundred million years is not a lot of time.

You need to grow up. Stop reverting back to the olden times. The world, life moves on.

 

[zaangalewa]

Because your mind is warped, poisoned, damaged, in distress?

Typically for an US-American. You are extremely poor judges of character. What a bad luck that most others are not better in trying to do so.

 

[zaangalewa]

You need to grow up.

I do so since about 13.8 billion years.

Stop reverting back to the olden times. The world, life moves on.

You do not do so. No one can walk without standing.

 

[zaangalewa]

Wow!

An "egg cell will become a human being?" I believe your confused again. No human being comes from "a" cell.

Let me try to say some words to this "idea" from ¿you? which you propagate with a lot of aggression. Perhaps this will help you to find a better way in your life.

A human being comes not only from an egg cell (and the history of the universe before this cell was created) - a human being is this fertilized egg cell. What I say here has now nothing to do with spirituality and/or religion: this is a fact of natural science. We start to grow biologically as a very little fertilized egg cell. Everyone of us was once such a cell - without any exception; we had been a human fertilized egg cell and we not had been a kangaroo or ant or white oak tree. Evolutionary this are "only" our sisters and brothers. This fertilized egg cell is very vulnerable and defenseless. It looks like as if it repeats all living conditions where our species once came from. And this process is in total unbelievable complex. So mother nature took care for the best of all possible living conditions. But even this best of all possible living conditions are very risky. And since some decades the highest risks for the life of a new human being are abortions - next to alcohol and drugs.

 

[playtime]

the #1 natural right is a right to one's autonomy.

that being honored by those in power is not always the case.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Do Natural Rights Actually Exist? If they do not then it's all intellectual bs. If they do, what are they? Can and do people who believe natural rights actually exist, agree on them -- what they are and are not?

I often see things similar to this Wikipedia entry:
Natural rights are those that are not dependent on the laws or customs of any particular culture or government, and so are universal, fundamental and inalienable (they cannot be repealed by human laws, though one can forfeit their enjoyment through one's actions, such as by violating someone else's rights).

Do natural rights trump laws? If so...

Natural rights exist? No.

Laws are just within a society. When something wrong happens, a law is created.

 

[dblack]

Natural rights exist? No.

Laws are just within a society. When something wrong happens, a law is created.

Do laws exist?

 

[dblack]

the #1 natural right is a right to one's autonomy.

that being honored by those in power is not always the case.

That's the thing liberals get hung up on. Natural rights have nothing to do with laws, or whether a given government honors those rights. They're just the basic freedoms we all start with, our capacity to think and act. That's it.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Do laws exist?

They're constructed within a society to hopefully keep it running

 

[playtime]

That's the thing liberals get hung up on. Natural rights have nothing to do with laws, or whether a given government honors those rights. They're just the basic freedoms we all start with, our capacity to think and act. That's it.

so if the gov'ment wanted to force you into having a vasectomy - or better yet - turn you into a eunuch, then you'll have the attitude, 'oh well...' ?

 

[dblack]

so if the gov'ment wanted to force you into having a vasectomy - or better yet - turn you into a eunuch, then you'll have the attitude, 'oh well...' ?

What are you talking about?? Where did I say that?

 

[playtime]

What are you talking about?? Where did I say that?

you don't think it's a natural right to say no or yes to your own body & what happens to it? that 'right' doesn't go beyond the capacity to think & act?