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[JoeB131]

They do have the same rights trial outcome is not based on rights both were afforded the same rights

Um... no. Every step of the process, they would have been treated differently.

A poor person would have had the police kick down his door on a poorly drawn warrant as his public defender mounted an inept defense, and a judge would have given him a stiff sentence.

Limbaugh, or Cindy McCain or Robert Downey Jr. would have gotten treated with kid gloves by the police, been able to get the best lawyers to argue evidence and would have gotten probation or rehab.

 

[Soupnazi630]

They do have the same rights trial outcome is not based on rights both were afforded the same rights

Um... no. Every step of the process, they would have been treated differently.

A poor person would have had the police kick down his door on a poorly drawn warrant as his public defender mounted an inept defense, and a judge would have given him a stiff sentence.

Limbaugh, or Cindy McCain or Robert Downey Jr. would have gotten treated with kid gloves by the police, been able to get the best lawyers to argue evidence and would have gotten probation or rehab.

You are referring to equality of outcome not equality of rights.

Same rights apply to all.

 

[JoeB131]

You are referring to equality of outcome not equality of rights.

Same rights apply to all.

Um, no, they don't. Maybe on a law school exam, but not in the real world.

ALl you have to do is watch the cops pull over a guy for "Driving while Black" to know the difference.

 

[Soupnazi630]

You are referring to equality of outcome not equality of rights.

Same rights apply to all.

Um, no, they don't. Maybe on a law school exam, but not in the real world.

ALl you have to do is watch the cops pull over a guy for "Driving while Black" to know the difference.

Yes they do once again you are deliberately conflatong equality of rights with equality of outcome.

Two different things.

There is no such thing as driving while black

You are proven wrong as always.

You are bot very good at this.

 

[boedicca]

Diversity of thought in the sense of individuals who can think for themselves.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes they do once again you are deliberately conflatong equality of rights with equality of outcome.

Two different things.

There is no such thing as driving while black

okay, again, let me know when you interact with the real world, buddy.

MEANWHILE

The Justice Department statistics, based on the Police-Public Contact Survey, show that "relatively more black drivers (12.8%) than white (9.8%) and Hispanic (10.4%) drivers were pulled over in a traffic stop during their most recent contact with police." Or, to frame it another way: A black driver is about 31 percent more likely to be pulled over than a white driver, or about 23 percent more likely than a Hispanic driver. "Driving while black" is, indeed, a measurable phenomenon.

You really can get pulled over for driving while black, federal statistics show

People of different races get pulled over for different reasons. While speeding is the most common reason for a traffic stop among all races, white people (50.1 percent) are more likely to get pulled over for speeding than blacks (37.7 percent) or Hispanics (39.2 percent). Relative to other races, blacks are more likely to get pulled over for vehicle defects or record checks. Perhaps most troubling from a civil liberties perspective, nearly five percent of blacks weren't given any reason for why they were stopped, compared with 2.6 percent of whites and 3.3 percent of Hispanics.

Gee, you really aren't very good at this, are you?

 

[JoeB131]

Yes they do once again you are deliberately conflatong equality of rights with equality of outcome.

Two different things.

There is no such thing as driving while black

okay, again, let me know when you interact with the real world, buddy.

MEANWHILE

The Justice Department statistics, based on the Police-Public Contact Survey, show that "relatively more black drivers (12.8%) than white (9.8%) and Hispanic (10.4%) drivers were pulled over in a traffic stop during their most recent contact with police." Or, to frame it another way: A black driver is about 31 percent more likely to be pulled over than a white driver, or about 23 percent more likely than a Hispanic driver. "Driving while black" is, indeed, a measurable phenomenon.

You really can get pulled over for driving while black, federal statistics show

People of different races get pulled over for different reasons. While speeding is the most common reason for a traffic stop among all races, white people (50.1 percent) are more likely to get pulled over for speeding than blacks (37.7 percent) or Hispanics (39.2 percent). Relative to other races, blacks are more likely to get pulled over for vehicle defects or record checks. Perhaps most troubling from a civil liberties perspective, nearly five percent of blacks weren't given any reason for why they were stopped, compared with 2.6 percent of whites and 3.3 percent of Hispanics.

Gee, you really aren't very good at this, are you?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Yes they do once again you are deliberately conflatong equality of rights with equality of outcome.

Two different things.

There is no such thing as driving while black

okay, again, let me know when you interact with the real world, buddy.

MEANWHILE

The Justice Department statistics, based on the Police-Public Contact Survey, show that "relatively more black drivers (12.8%) than white (9.8%) and Hispanic (10.4%) drivers were pulled over in a traffic stop during their most recent contact with police." Or, to frame it another way: A black driver is about 31 percent more likely to be pulled over than a white driver, or about 23 percent more likely than a Hispanic driver. "Driving while black" is, indeed, a measurable phenomenon.

You really can get pulled over for driving while black, federal statistics show

People of different races get pulled over for different reasons. While speeding is the most common reason for a traffic stop among all races, white people (50.1 percent) are more likely to get pulled over for speeding than blacks (37.7 percent) or Hispanics (39.2 percent). Relative to other races, blacks are more likely to get pulled over for vehicle defects or record checks. Perhaps most troubling from a civil liberties perspective, nearly five percent of blacks weren't given any reason for why they were stopped, compared with 2.6 percent of whites and 3.3 percent of Hispanics.

Gee, you really aren't very good at this, are you?

I live in the real world you are naive and jumping to false conclusions.

African Americans are in fact stopped more than others but this is because statistically they are more likely to be driving with drugs or weapons.

When law enforcement responds to such patterns it is not racially based.

There is no such thing as driving while black and higher rates of traffic stops fails massively to prove otherwise.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Yes they do once again you are deliberately conflatong equality of rights with equality of outcome.

Two different things.

There is no such thing as driving while black

okay, again, let me know when you interact with the real world, buddy.

MEANWHILE

The Justice Department statistics, based on the Police-Public Contact Survey, show that "relatively more black drivers (12.8%) than white (9.8%) and Hispanic (10.4%) drivers were pulled over in a traffic stop during their most recent contact with police." Or, to frame it another way: A black driver is about 31 percent more likely to be pulled over than a white driver, or about 23 percent more likely than a Hispanic driver. "Driving while black" is, indeed, a measurable phenomenon.

You really can get pulled over for driving while black, federal statistics show

People of different races get pulled over for different reasons. While speeding is the most common reason for a traffic stop among all races, white people (50.1 percent) are more likely to get pulled over for speeding than blacks (37.7 percent) or Hispanics (39.2 percent). Relative to other races, blacks are more likely to get pulled over for vehicle defects or record checks. Perhaps most troubling from a civil liberties perspective, nearly five percent of blacks weren't given any reason for why they were stopped, compared with 2.6 percent of whites and 3.3 percent of Hispanics.

Gee, you really aren't very good at this, are you?

Far better than you actually you missed by a mile


Get out and experience reality boy

 

[JoeB131]

I live in the real world you are naive and jumping to false conclusions.

African Americans are in fact stopped more than others but this is because statistically they are more likely to be driving with drugs or weapons.

Okay... except these cops don't have something called probable cause. "More likely to" isn't probable cause... you've just admitted we all don't have equal rights, no matter what the constitution says.

When law enforcement responds to such patterns it is not racially based.

There is no such thing as driving while black and higher rates of traffic stops fails massively to prove otherwise.

Um, no, the statistics prove otherwise.

 

[Soupnazi630]

I live in the real world you are naive and jumping to false conclusions.

African Americans are in fact stopped more than others but this is because statistically they are more likely to be driving with drugs or weapons.

Okay... except these cops don't have something called probable cause. "More likely to" isn't probable cause... you've just admitted we all don't have equal rights, no matter what the constitution says.

When law enforcement responds to such patterns it is not racially based.

There is no such thing as driving while black and higher rates of traffic stops fails massively to prove otherwise.

Um, no, the statistics prove otherwise.

I never admitted any such thing and you have no evidence that they do not have probable cause.

The statistics do not prove otherwise at all.

You are will fully ignoring the statistics and facts.

 

[JoeB131]

I never admitted any such thing and you have no evidence that they do not have probable cause.

The statistics do not prove otherwise at all.

You are will fully ignoring the statistics and facts.

Statistics are that cops pull over more brown people because most of them are racist. It's why police departments need more diversity.

 

[JoeB131]

They pull over African Americans more often because statistically African Americans are more likely to be committing a crime. Especially young males.

Pulling someone over because of their race when you have no other evidence is the textbook definition of racism. I'm sorry you don't get this.

You are simply wrong and proven wrong and have not even challenged the fact that equal rights exist.

I've already proven by the cops own admission they pull over black motorists more often for less valid reasons. Again- classic definition of racism.

 

[JoeB131]

You are assuming and jumping to a conclusion that they have no other evidence hence the lie of racism

You have proven nothing what size ever about cops doing this you did not even post a source for it
You are a liar and proven so

You can keep whining about it, but the cops are racist as shit and eveyrone knows it.

They need to fix that.

The federal survey you posted and cited did not ask any police why they pulled people over it instead asked motorists why they were pulled over

It doesn't matter... Cops pull more blacks over for more frivilous reasons.. EVERY LAST SURVEY proves this again and again.

 

[Soupnazi630]

You are assuming and jumping to a conclusion that they have no other evidence hence the lie of racism

You have proven nothing what size ever about cops doing this you did not even post a source for it
You are a liar and proven so

You can keep whining about it, but the cops are racist as shit and eveyrone knows it.

They need to fix that.

The federal survey you posted and cited did not ask any police why they pulled people over it instead asked motorists why they were pulled over

It doesn't matter... Cops pull more blacks over for more frivilous reasons.. EVERY LAST SURVEY proves this again and again.

Repeating yourself proves nothing you have failed to show any evidence for your claim in fact you lied about evience.

Everyone does not know this. Fee are in agreement with you and even if they did it is irrelevant as consensus does not equal truth.

You are also lying about surveys as you have not read every last one of them and many dispute your claim while others do not even address your claim.

It matters what I say because I have debunked you and proven you to be wrong and dishonest and you know it.

So to review equal rights exist and that is can you you cannot refute.

Driving while black is myth you have failed to prove with evidence.

Sjw lies and assumptions are not good enough and that is all you have

 

[sartre play]

Just go with the English language dictionary. Different, various.
no need to attach additional meanings.

 

[MacTheKnife]

I live in the real world you are naive and jumping to false conclusions.

African Americans are in fact stopped more than others but this is because statistically they are more likely to be driving with drugs or weapons.

Okay... except these cops don't have something called probable cause. "More likely to" isn't probable cause... you've just admitted we all don't have equal rights, no matter what the constitution says.

When law enforcement responds to such patterns it is not racially based.

There is no such thing as driving while black and higher rates of traffic stops fails massively to prove otherwise.

Um, no, the statistics prove otherwise.

Racial Profiling works.................Not profiling people is foolish and dangerous

 

[JoeB131]

So to review equal rights exist and that is can you you cannot refute.

Not in the real world they don't... If you had to live like a black person, you'd be whining to the high heavens about a DWB.

Racial Profiling works.................

So does beating people with rubber hoses... but it's still wrong.

 

[Soupnazi630]

So to review equal rights exist and that is can you you cannot refute.

Not in the real world they don't... If you had to live like a black person, you'd be whining to the high heavens about a DWB.

Racial Profiling works.................

So does beating people with rubber hoses... but it's still wrong.

You have no idea how the real world works

Yes equal rights exist in the real world and you have failed to demonstrate or prove otherwise.

Proofing is not wrong.

 

[JoeB131]

You have no idea how the real world works

Yes equal rights exist in the real world and you have failed to demonstrate or prove otherwise.

Proofing is not wrong.

Um, guy, pulling people over for the color of their skin is wrong.. period..

and cops seem to think this is okay.