Discussion on America's ability to take down China militarily and why China is not doing more to help Iran.

[Invisibleflash]

Discussion of America's ability to take down China militarily and why China is not doing more for Iran. Beginning is discussion of Iran's mosaic defense which is a decentralized method of self-defense. Video moves on to discuss how China is surrounded by American military and its proxies.

The first part of the plan to take China down is to cripple Russia's ability to send crude oil to China through continued attacks by Ukraine. If Iran can be taken down that will put a crimp in China's Belt and Road Initiative. It will also work as a staging ground to build up USA military forces for a future attack on Russia and China.

Belt and Road economic corridor - China​

 

[Oddball]

A whole lot of opinion here.

 

[Dorian Mode]

The chessboard favors USA at the moment. War between China and America would debilitate China more. China is waiting patiently for the next economic crash and/or something that debilitates America all by itself, like political instability, civil war, etc. China is doing just fine lately and thinks of China First. Something America hasn't done in a long time. Besides, it is relatively cheap and cost effective to pay the dumocraps to destroy America from within.

 

[Hafar1014]

The chessboard favors USA at the moment. War between China and America would debilitate China more. China is waiting patiently for the next economic crash and/or something that debilitates America all by itself, like political instability, civil war, etc. China is doing just fine lately and thinks of China First. Something America hasn't done in a long time. Besides, it is relatively cheap and cost effective to pay the dumocraps to destroy America from within.

Chinas economy is in decline America is thriving

 

[Dorian Mode]

Chinas economy is in decline America is thriving

We need to lose the American hubris, especially with China. China's economy is still growing very fast and China has pulled most of its country out of extreme poverty. People don't realize it but China is now the 2nd biggest economy, and it's economy is growing at 5%. 5% growth may not be the 10% growth of yesteryears, but it still is 5% growth and double that of USA and 3 times that of the EU in 2025. We should take China more seriously, they will be a formidable adversary. And they are socially and politically much more cohesive than we, and Europe, are.

 

[JWBooth]

With each missile barrage aimed at Tehran, the Chinese are less threatened because there are not an unlimited number of those things available and they’ve burned through a lot of them.

 

[ThirdTerm]

The first part of the plan to take China down is to cripple Russia's ability to send crude oil to China through continued attacks by Ukraine. If Iran can be taken down that will put a crimp in China's Belt and Road Initiative. It will also work as a staging ground to build up USA military forces for a future attack on Russia and China.

No war is needed to take down China. Just raise the tariff rate on Chinese imports to 500%. China has become a military threat because the country has become too prosperous after America started trading with China in the 1990s. Trump should reverse what Clinton did on China at the time.

AllPolitics - Clinton Defends 'Constructive Engagement' Of China - Oct. 24, 1997

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

We need to lose the American hubris, especially with China. China's economy is still growing very fast and China has pulled most of its country out of extreme poverty. People don't realize it but China is now the 2nd biggest economy, and it's economy is growing at 5%. 5% growth may not be the 10% growth of yesteryears, but it still is 5% growth and double that of USA and 3 times that of the EU in 2025.

And they are socially and politically much more cohesive than we, and Europe, are.

Join the BRICs or Join the Brokes

 

[Dorian Mode]

Join the BRICs or Join the Brokes

You have a great point. It doesn't have to be this way because the world has changed so much in just 50 years that the "industrial" way of doing things is no longer viable. We have to stop thinking about everything as an industrial competition with one winner and start thinking that modern problems are solved with collaboration. That, incidentally, is also a great way to avoid the inevitable WWIII.

 

[Kruska]

The chessboard favors USA at the moment. War between China and America would debilitate China more. China is waiting patiently for the next economic crash and/or something that debilitates America all by itself, like political instability, civil war, etc. China is doing just fine lately and thinks of China First. Something America hasn't done in a long time. Besides, it is relatively cheap and cost effective to pay the dumocraps to destroy America from within.

Factually they make use of those MAGA dolts and TACO to run down the USA.

 

[toobfreak]

Gee, where'd ya dig this boob up? Lessee, WE are waging war against poor little Iran, after their threatening and attacking us only for 47 years killing thousands of Americans at every opportunity with their stated objective to destroy America!

And for what? For daring to force them to live as free people, the horror!

Damn those Americans---- they just don't know how to be good dhimmi's like the UK.

Bastards.

 

[toobfreak]

We have to stop thinking about everything as an industrial competition with one winner and start thinking that modern problems are solved with collaboration.

Gee, can you name any countries trying to "collaborate" with the USA? Isn't collaboration just a fancy word for socialism and globalism? Funny I don't see China or Russia or N. Korea nor Iran "collaborating" with anyone.

 

[GLASNOST]

America's ability to take down China militarily = suicide.​

 

[GLASNOST]

Join the BRICs or Join the Brokes

Probably true but the US usually has a few aces up its sleeve.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Gee, can you name any countries trying to "collaborate" with the USA? Isn't collaboration just a fancy word for socialism and globalism? Funny I don't see China or Russia or N. Korea nor Iran "collaborating" with anyone.

No, but America isn't a country that seeks to collaborate internationally. China is. It takes a leap to break through of the current restraining paradigms to see that countries can be fiercely nationalistic and still collaborate, even share, to make the planet more stable and less likely to finish in a nuclear winter. Not everything has to be, should be, or can be, reduced to an Us v. Them dichotomy.

 

[toobfreak]

No, but America isn't a country that seeks to collaborate internationally.

Really? Better think again. Trump is all over this planet seeking to collaborate with other countries to make deals as an alternative to war, etc., that would benefit everyone. Trump even sought to collaborate with Iran offering them free unlimited nuclear fuel in perpetuity if they would just avoid this war-- that is, if their nuclear intentions really were peaceful. Iran chose war.

China is.

Yep, China has been collaborating with the USA for years trying to buy out politicians to pass Chinese-friendly laws while stealing our technology and buying up farmland next to our universities and military installations, while "collaborating" with Brazil, Iran, India and Russia to replace the US Dollar with one of their own!

Pretty amazing really that when China does that, they are just "collaborating," yet when the USA does it, it becomes global imperialistic hegemony!

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Chinas economy is in decline America is thriving

And domestic instability is ballooning, hence the need for Xi to babble about 'corruption' as he arrests leaders who can oppose him. They've been lying about their alleged '8% GDP growth' for going on decades now, and the tariffs are hurting them. there is no other economy out there that can replace the US economy and replace the losses.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Join the BRICs or Join the Brokes

BRICS is an ongoing joke.None of the members trust each other, and demand payments from each other in gold. Neither russia or China are capable of honoring any treaties or agreements with anybody, they have no moral sensibility whatsoever. BRICS is no threat, just noise, same as the alleged 'Grand Alliance' with Iran. It didn't last past the first missile into Tehran. Both Russia and China have been embarrassed and proven worthless as allies.

 

[Dorian Mode]

And domestic instability is ballooning, hence the need for Xi to babble about 'corruption' as he arrests leaders who can oppose him. They've been lying about their alleged '8% GDP growth' for going on decades now, and the tariffs are hurting them. there is no other economy out there that can replace the US economy and replace the losses.

"Everything that rises must converge."
Flannery O' Connor

Or as I like to say,
"Welcome to the club. The club sucks."
Dorian Mode

We can collectively do so much better, but it means shedding the old paradigm based on vicious competition and winner take all, and realizing that paradigm will now inevitably lead to mushroom clouds all over the planet. And no, this doesn't mean communism, it simply means working better together as a team instead of fighting each other as enemies.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You have a great point. It doesn't have to be this way because the world has changed so much in just 50 years that the "industrial" way of doing things is no longer viable. We have to stop thinking about everything as an industrial competition with one winner and start thinking that modern problems are solved with collaboration. That, incidentally, is also a great way to avoid the inevitable WWIII.

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