Did the USA do good to seize a Venezuelan oil tanker?

[TimFitz]

It is not a Venezuelan tanker. It actually has no national registration, so it is an outlaw vessel. Any sovereign force is authorized under international law to confiscate it. The most significant aspect of this is that it harms Maduro's regime a bit.

I assumed that this was not true, as it was ridiculous.

“Skipper, previously named Adisa, (IMO number 9304667) is an crude oil tankerowned by Triton Navigation Corp., based in the Marshall Islands<a href="United States seizure of the oil tanker Skipper - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a><a href="United States seizure of the oil tanker Skipper - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a><a href="United States seizure of the oil tanker Skipper - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> and operated by Nigeria-based Thomarose Global Ventures.<a href="United States seizure of the oil tanker Skipper - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a> The 310,309 DWTtanker was built by Imabari Shipbuilding at Saijō, Ehime, Japan in 2005 as yard number 2507, named Toyo and managed by the Japanese NYK Line.<a href="United States seizure of the oil tanker Skipper - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a>”

 

[Norm Paperman]

That is not what those that saw the video said it showed....that is a false narrative from MSNOW....the same clowns that call these boats, fishing boats. Sen. Tom Cotton says survivors of first September boat strike 'were not incapacitated'

“They were not in the water, surviving only because they had a life jacket or hanging to a plank of wood,” Cotton said. “They were sitting on that boat. They were clearly moving around on it.”

Cotton alleged that the survivors appeared at one point to try to flip over the capsized boat, “presumably to rescue its cargo and continue their mission,” he added.

Other Senators had a different take it.

 

[struth]

Other Senators had a different take it.

Sure many people that didn't actually see the video

 

[Norm Paperman]

Sure many people that didn't actually see the video

Rand Paul did not see the actual video?

 

[TimFitz]

The problem is that the US is doing all kind of bad things too. I don't like Maduro, but if the US had their way, Venezuela would just be a lap dog for the US, selling oil cheaply.

Why do you think the US hates Maduro?

Because Venezuela is OPEC. The US invaded Iraq in 2003 (OPEC), bombed Libya in 2011 (OPEC), sanctions against Iran (along with many threats of invasion) and heavy sanctions against Iran and Venezeula.

Do not see the media attacking Venezuela as them caring for the people. They just want cheaper oil.

That is Trump’s objective.

Meanwhile, as the Trump regime threatens, Sabre rattles, and blows things up, the Chinese are busy investing in Venezuelan oil infrastructure, increasing production, and giving Trump the finger in the Western Hemisphere.

 

[my2¢]

I went with 'other' since I'm not all that familiar with the event.

My sole reaction has only been to a very brief glimpse of a video clip which brought to my mind that we're now acting like Somali pirates.

 

[Norm Paperman]

I went with 'other' since I'm not all that familiar with the event.

My sole reaction has only been to a very brief glimpse of a video clip which brought to my mind that we're now acting like Somali pirates.

They are doing so. People in the Caribbean are afraid to go fishing in any boat larger than a row boat.

 

[ColonelAngus]

This is a black market tanker taking oil to countries under sanction.

Not sure how much one tanker will affect USA oil market.

Let us say it is 750,000 barrels….hell, let us say 1 million barrels.

That is roughly ONE HOUR of consumption for the USA.

CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN HOW THIS WILL AFFECT US OIL PRICES?

 

[struth]

Rand Paul did not see the actual video?

Why wound he have?

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/12/11/congress/house-speaker-says-second-boat-strike-was-entirely-appropriate-00688140

 

[JGalt]

pricy is illegal, seizing sanctioned oil is not.

Venezuelan oil is icky and Crepitus is a climate change denier.

 

[DennisPTate]

This is a black market tanker taking oil to countries under sanction.

Not sure how much one tanker will affect USA oil market.

Let us say it is 750,000 barrels….hell, let us say 1 million barrels.

That is roughly ONE HOUR of consumption for the USA.

CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN HOW THIS WILL AFFECT US OIL PRICES?

I personally am a Canadian who is thankful that the USA has been policing the world since WWII. In my opinion you have done a vastly better job than was being done by England.

I believe that if President Trump's policies toward Venezuela succeed, the supply of oil to America should increase which should tend to decrease the price of oil. In my opinion that is a great thing whereas sending oil to China, is not a good thing at all because Xi wants to expand and expand China's influence all over the world.

There is certain information that I believe President Trump and his team want to be exposed so that Americans are better prepared for what must be done next.

Thread 'Should we Canadians apologize to the USA for how we acted from 1740 to 1775?'

Dec 11, 2025

I believe that we Canadians owe the United States an apology for how our ancestors treated our ally The United States from 1740 to 1775. It is my belief that the exaggerated obedience of Canadian elected officials to London made the American Revolutionary War almost impossible to avoid.

In our defence it is likely that an astonishing small number of our ancestors actually understood how Compound Interest Over Time was being implemented in order to turn American citizens into economic slaves who would run endlessly on an allegorical economic treadmill?

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[Doc7505]

It's straight up piracy.

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You're WRONG again as usual..
The seized Venezuelan tanker, identified as the Skipper, was reportedly "falsely-flagged," meaning it did not have legitimate national registration, which complicates its legal status and the justification for its seizure by the U.S.
New reporting suggests the Trump administration is planning a series of similar shadow-fleet tanker seizures, which would constitute a new lever in its pressure campaign against the Maduro regime, and its effort to enforce sanctions in other, related regions like Iran.

Read more:

Why Did the United States Seize a Venezuelan Oil Shipment?

By itself, the U.S. seizure of a Venezuelan oil cargo won’t rattle oil markets. But it likely signals a new commitment to sanctions enforcement that will complicate “shadow fleet” operations and ratchet up the pressure on Maduro to step aside.

www.csis.org

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https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-preparing-seize-more-tankers-off-venezuelas-coast-after-first-ship-taken-2025-12-11/

 

[Norm Paperman]

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You're WRONG again as usual..
The seized Venezuelan tanker, identified as the Skipper, was reportedly "falsely-flagged," meaning it did not have legitimate national registration, which complicates its legal status and the justification for its seizure by the U.S.
New reporting suggests the Trump administration is planning a series of similar shadow-fleet tanker seizures, which would constitute a new lever in its pressure campaign against the Maduro regime, and its effort to enforce sanctions in other, related regions like Iran.

Read more:

Why Did the United States Seize a Venezuelan Oil Shipment?

By itself, the U.S. seizure of a Venezuelan oil cargo won’t rattle oil markets. But it likely signals a new commitment to sanctions enforcement that will complicate “shadow fleet” operations and ratchet up the pressure on Maduro to step aside.

www.csis.org

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https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-preparing-seize-more-tankers-off-venezuelas-coast-after-first-ship-taken-2025-12-11/

So the US is going to engage in more piracy because killing people willy nilly in international waters is just not enough.

 

[22lcidw]

They are doing so. People in the Caribbean are afraid to go fishing in any boat larger than a row boat.

With luck perhaps some nation will have the Somali Pirates disease. They can pirate some cruise ships. Especially ships with prog dominate cruisers who are full of themselves.

 

[Norm Paperman]

With luck perhaps some nation will have the Somali Pirates disease. They can pirate some cruise ships. Especially ships with prog dominate cruisers who are full of themselves.

Interesting, it is not enough for you that the US is doing these things, you want other countries to do so as well.

 

[TimFitz]

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You're WRONG again as usual..
The seized Venezuelan tanker, identified as the Skipper, was reportedly "falsely-flagged," meaning it did not have legitimate national registration, which complicates its legal status and the justification for its seizure by the U.S.
New reporting suggests the Trump administration is planning a series of similar shadow-fleet tanker seizures, which would constitute a new lever in its pressure campaign against the Maduro regime, and its effort to enforce sanctions in other, related regions like Iran.

Read more:

Why Did the United States Seize a Venezuelan Oil Shipment?

By itself, the U.S. seizure of a Venezuelan oil cargo won’t rattle oil markets. But it likely signals a new commitment to sanctions enforcement that will complicate “shadow fleet” operations and ratchet up the pressure on Maduro to step aside.

www.csis.org

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https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-preparing-seize-more-tankers-off-venezuelas-coast-after-first-ship-taken-2025-12-11/

Which begs the obvious question.

If Derp fuhrer plans on seizing ghost tankers coming out of Venezuela, then why is he not even talking about doing the same thing to ghost tankers coming out of Russia? Which is also under US sanction.

 

[Dragonlady]

Has the Trump administration did the people of Venezuela a favour by seizing a Venezuelan oil tanker?

I personally believe that Maduro is no better than Adolf Hitler or Stalin or Mao or any other criminal who rises to a place of political power.

Maduro must be toppled so I believe that the Trump administration has done the people of Venezuela a favour by taking away a lot of Maduro's supply of cash, [which could easily force him to flee from Venezuela]?

There is no limit to the depths MAGA will sink to in order to justify Trump’s illegal and unconstitutional behaviours.

Maduro must be toppled???? Says who??? Trump????

I thought the USA was no longer policing the world.

 

[struth]

So the US is going to engage in more piracy because killing people willy nilly in international waters is just not enough.

Seizing sanctioned oil isn’t piracy

And targeting terrorist isn’t done Willy nilly

No matter how much you lie about it

 

[Norm Paperman]

Seizing sanctioned oil isn’t piracy

And targeting terrorist isn’t done Willy nilly

No matter how much you lie about it

Who sanctioned the oil?

They are not terrorist, they are at best drug mules, but even that is in doubt since there has never been a bit of evidence put forth by the current administration.

 

[struth]

Who sanctioned the oil?

They are not terrorist, they are at best drug mules, but even that is in doubt since there has never been a bit of evidence put forth by the current administration.

The United states govt

Drug mule is a job title in the terrorist organization they belong in making them terrorist