Zone1 Did the Godhead perform an animal sacrifice in the Garden of Eden?

[Cougarbear]

Genesis 3:21, "Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them." This isn't a question even though the way the word "did" appears. The way it appears is better stated, "Unto Adam, and also unto his wife, did I, the Lord God, make coats of skins, and clothed them." There was no death in the world or garden up to this point. So, was this when the first animal sacrifice occurred teaching Adam and Eve about the eventual atonement of the Lord, Jesus Christ (Jehovah)? Jehovah, teaching that he would be the way back to paradise through His atoning sacrifice to come much later.

One other lesson comes before this when Satan (Lucifer) offered Adam and Eve the fig leaves to cover their sin. He offered them guilt and sin with no turning back or forgiveness. Satan offered the counterfeit to Christ.

 

[Hafar1014]

Genesis 3:21, "Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them." This isn't a question even though the way the word "did" appears. The way it appears is better stated, "Unto Adam, and also unto his wife, did I, the Lord God, make coats of skins, and clothed them." There was no death in the world or garden up to this point. So, was this when the first animal sacrifice occurred teaching Adam and Eve about the eventual atonement of the Lord, Jesus Christ (Jehovah)? Jehovah, teaching that he would be the way back to paradise through His atoning sacrifice to come much later.

One other lesson comes before this when Satan (Lucifer) offered Adam and Eve the fig leaves to cover their sin. He offered them guilt and sin with no turning back or forgiveness. Satan offered the counterfeit to Christ.

Using animals for food and clothes is not a sacrifice. Jews who wrote Genesis stopped animal sacrifice so it wouldnt be stated at all

The serpent is not the devil its a metaphor for guile and has the power of speech in Jewish folklore.
Gods plan all along was for Adam and Eve to eat the fruit from the tree of morals to acquire morals. Thats not a sin since they are obeying Gods plan and they couldnt know what a sin was before they ate the fruit you have to know what a sin is to create one.
Lucifer is the bearer of light(enlightenment). Christians turned him inti the devil.
There is no original sin or fall of man. Its the trial for mans freedom when morals are combined with free will and Adam chooses on his own to come to God.
You have no idea what Genesis is all about

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Using animals for food and clothes is not a sacrifice. Jews who wrote Genesis stopped animal sacrifice so it wouldnt be stated at all

The serpent is not the devil its a metaphor for guile and has the power of speech in Jewish folklore.
Gods plan all along was for Adam and Eve to eat the fruit from the tree of morals to acquire morals. Thats not a sin since they are obeying Gods plan and they couldnt know what a sin was before they ate the fruit you have to know what a sin is to create one.
Lucifer is the bearer of light(enlightenment). Christians turned him inti the devil.
There is no original sin or fall of man. Its the trial for mans freedom when morals are combined with free will and Adam chooses on his own to come to God.
You have no idea what Genesis is all about

Proclaiming OPINION as "fact"

 

[Hafar1014]

Proclaiming OPINION as "fact"

My interpretation is based on my ability o read Hebrew and understand d what it really means which I supported wkith reason. You offer only denial and clearly hve no idea what Genesis is all about. Christians turned a beautiful allegory into a story about evil sin and failure.
Its about the rise of man moral teaching of man freedom of man, mans ability to evolve to a higher level.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

My interpretation is based on my ability o read Hebrew and understand d what it really means which I supported wkith reason. You offer only denial and clearly hve no idea what Genesis is all about. Christians turned a beautiful allegory into a story about evil sin and failure.
Its about the rise of man moral teaching of man freedom of man, mans ability to evolve to a higher level.

You made definitive STATEMENTS backing up nothing with Scripture
I realize your opinions are the opinions of Judaism as the OP's are typical of Mormonism. Neither of you can convince me with simple declarative statements. But carry on

 

[Carl in Michigan]

light(enlightenment). Christians turned him inti the devil

This is why so many Christians talk about the Jews the way they do.

The Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil symbolizes Man DECIDING FOR HIMSELF what is good and What is evil rather than the Tree of Life representing Man accepting God's Word. Yours is just another of the World's religions

 

[Hafar1014]

This is why so many Christians talk about the Jews the way they do.

The Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil symbolizes Man DECIDING FOR HIMSELF what is good and What is evil rather than the Tree of Life representing Man accepting God's Word. Yours is just another of the World's religions

In a perverse way you have part of it. The tree is simply a metaphor for moral awareness.

 

[ding]

Genesis 3:21, "Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them." This isn't a question even though the way the word "did" appears. The way it appears is better stated, "Unto Adam, and also unto his wife, did I, the Lord God, make coats of skins, and clothed them." There was no death in the world or garden up to this point. So, was this when the first animal sacrifice occurred teaching Adam and Eve about the eventual atonement of the Lord, Jesus Christ (Jehovah)? Jehovah, teaching that he would be the way back to paradise through His atoning sacrifice to come much later.

One other lesson comes before this when Satan (Lucifer) offered Adam and Eve the fig leaves to cover their sin. He offered them guilt and sin with no turning back or forgiveness. Satan offered the counterfeit to Christ.

Are you reading these passages literally?

 

[Hafar1014]

Are you reading these passages literally?

This is the Christian distortion created to explain Jesus. They created original sin its not there which means Jesus never existed or was simply a man

 

[ding]

This is the Christian distortion created to explain Jesus. They created original sin its not there which means Jesus never existed or was simply a man

Do you read these accounts literally?

 

[ding]

In a perverse way you have part of it. The tree is simply a metaphor for moral awareness.

And choice.

 

[theHawk]

Using animals for food and clothes is not a sacrifice. Jews who wrote Genesis stopped animal sacrifice so it wouldnt be stated at all

The serpent is not the devil its a metaphor for guile and has the power of speech in Jewish folklore.
Gods plan all along was for Adam and Eve to eat the fruit from the tree of morals to acquire morals. Thats not a sin since they are obeying Gods plan and they couldnt know what a sin was before they ate the fruit you have to know what a sin is to create one.
Lucifer is the bearer of light(enlightenment). Christians turned him inti the devil.
There is no original sin or fall of man. Its the trial for mans freedom when morals are combined with free will and Adam chooses on his own to come to God.
You have no idea what Genesis is all about

^^ total lies.

 

[Hafar1014]

Do you read these accounts literally?

No its an allegory Adam and Eve are metaphors and the message is brilliant considering when it was written. It describes evolution, free will and the morals that must be part of it. Adam and Eve are described in a very humanly way. It also mentions the inherent human need to define meaning in life. Thousands of years before Viktor Frankl discovered it.

 

[Hafar1014]

^^ total lies.

Prove me wrong or at least offer an intelligent response

 

[Hafar1014]

And choice.

Choice is free will Adam had that and proved it by disobeying God which he was supposed to do

 

[rosends]

Genesis 3:21, "Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them." This isn't a question even though the way the word "did" appears. The way it appears is better stated, "Unto Adam, and also unto his wife, did I, the Lord God, make coats of skins, and clothed them."

this is the verse you mention in the Hebrew and English
וַיַּ֩עַשׂ֩ יְהֹוָ֨ה אֱלֹהִ֜ים לְאָדָ֧ם וּלְאִשְׁתּ֛וֹ כׇּתְנ֥וֹת ע֖וֹר וַיַּלְבִּשֵֽׁם׃ {פ}
And God יהוה made garments of skins for Adam and his wife, and clothed them.

There was no death in the world or garden up to this point. So, was this when the first animal sacrifice occurred teaching Adam and Eve about the eventual atonement of the Lord, Jesus Christ (Jehovah)? Jehovah, teaching that he would be the way back to paradise through His atoning sacrifice to come much later.

There is nothing in the words which indicates either death or sacrifice. God is said to have simply made a garment of skins (nor is it said what the skins were from). God can "make" without having to go through the steps of killing an animal and skinning it, tanning hides etc.

One other lesson comes before this when Satan (Lucifer) offered Adam and Eve the fig leaves to cover their sin. He offered them guilt and sin with no turning back or forgiveness. Satan offered the counterfeit to Christ.

Can you show me where it says anyone offered them leaves? The verse says

"Then the eyes of both of them were opened and they perceived that they were naked; and they sewed together fig leaves and made themselves loincloths."

 

[ding]

Choice is free will Adam had that and proved it by disobeying God which he was supposed to do

Yes, choice is free will.

 

[The Irish Ram]

At this point, it is easier to ask if there is anything in the Book that can be taken literally. Stop with the, it's an allegory, it's a metaphor, it is figurative, it is personification. If that were the case, then the Bible means whatever a person wants it to mean. It would have no significance. You could read about Adam and Eve and just assume that God doesn't want us to eat apples.

Just read what it says. There is no reason to assume that God covered them with metaphorical skin, or skin produced by speaking it into existence. Nowhere else in the Bible gives credence to God making clothing supernaturally. He did exactly what He later instructed the Jews to do to cover their sin. He sacrificed an animal to cover Adam and Eve's sin. The next to sacrifice an animal, that we know of, was Abel. And it was acceptable to God. No need to metaphor either instance. They both did what it said they did.

What do you do when your metaphor directly opposes what Christ said?
How many of you believe that "story" <(AI's definition) of Jonah and the giant fish that swallowed him?
What do you do when Christ gives what it actually says validity?

Matthew 12:40​

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth
^
Is that an analogy of a metaphor describing an idiom concerning an explication?

 

[Cougarbear]

Using animals for food and clothes is not a sacrifice. Jews who wrote Genesis stopped animal sacrifice so it wouldnt be stated at all

The serpent is not the devil its a metaphor for guile and has the power of speech in Jewish folklore.
Gods plan all along was for Adam and Eve to eat the fruit from the tree of morals to acquire morals. Thats not a sin since they are obeying Gods plan and they couldnt know what a sin was before they ate the fruit you have to know what a sin is to create one.
Lucifer is the bearer of light(enlightenment). Christians turned him inti the devil.
There is no original sin or fall of man. Its the trial for mans freedom when morals are combined with free will and Adam chooses on his own to come to God.
You have no idea what Genesis is all about

WOW! You are truly clueless. Did the Lord perform an animal sacrifice for Adam and Eve to know what they were going to have to do once they left the Garden? There was no death prior the "Fall" of Adam. So, something changed and animals were put to death by the Lord. I would say that it's so they would know about the Atonement because they in fact did transgress the law (sin). They kept one of the two commandments they received but did not keep the other. They ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil in which they were told not to. Because of this, they were banished from the Garden of Eden. Banished is certainly a punishment for a sin. So, you started off poorly.
The serpent is not the devil? The devil by definition deceives. And, that is exactly what Satan did. He told a half truth which means the other part was a lie. God does not lie. The part that was a lie was saying that they would not die if they ate the fruit. The part that was true is that they would be as or like God knowing good and evil. Even God the Father said they now became as one of them (us) knowing good and evil. So off base on that one.
The purpose of the commandments given Adam and Eve was for them to choose freely whether they would obey. They did and didn't. So, they were given punishments. They became mortal and had to get their own food and build their own shelter. But, they would be able to keep the other commandment which was to multiply and replenish the earth. Have children and that wasn't going to be easy for Eve. They sinned and would have died in their sin with no ability to be saved and live again in the presence of our Father in Heaven and our Lord, Jesus Christ (Jehovah). So, they were told that a Savior would be provided for them and would atone for their sins. They learned about animal sacrifice and thus they learned about the atonement prior to Moses. In fact, Melchizedek and others held the higher Priesthood after the order of the Son of God. That was taken from the people of Israel when they sinned in the dessert. They were left with the lesser or Levitical (after the order of Aaron) Priesthood only. So, the coats of skins Adam and Eve received were most likely from a sacrifice for Adam and Eve to learn to perform themselves. The animal skins were made into coats or coverings, underwear.
Lucifer was a fallen angel who led a third of the hosts or spirit children of the Father away from God. They were all banished out of Heaven and became devils to tempt and torment mankind. To teach them the doctrines of men mingled with scripture. That is what you have fallen into.

 

[Cougarbear]

Are you reading these passages literally?

Absolutely! Do the scriptures tell us to not?