Did Stalin´s empire secretly plan the invasion of National - Socialist Germany in 1941?

[Litwin]

During the negotiations on the Hitler-Stalin-Pact, old Bolshevik Molotov claimed Bornholm, Anholt and Northern Jutland as Bolshevik protectorates. These locations are part of Denmark. Ribbentrop refused the claim. - Jacob Kronika

Even more importantly, for the first time, Lenin acknowledged that the Red Army offensive into Poland in July 1920 aimed not only at the sovietisation of Poland, but also at taking the military campaign further westwards, in particular, to Germany and England. This intention was unknown to earlier historians working on the subject. Lenin believed that the Red Army offensive would ignite the spark of revolution across Europe, as it advanced, drawing fresh recruits into its ranks, as it had during the Bolshevik jihad . In this way, the Polish-Bolshevik War could be used as the initial engagement in a war against the capitalist Allied states, for the overthrow of the Versailles settlement, admitting, This was a most important turning point not only in the politics of Bolshevik empire but also in world politics... now we said we have become stronger, and we will respond with a counterattack to each of your attempts at attack... you risk that each of your attacks will expand the territory of the Bolshevik empire

 

[shockedcanadian]

During the negotiations on the Hitler-Stalin-Pact, old Bolshevik Molotov claimed Bornholm, Anholt and Northern Jutland as Bolshevik protectorates. These locations are part of Denmark. Ribbentrop refused the claim. - Jacob Kronika

Even more importantly, for the first time, Lenin acknowledged that the Red Army offensive into Poland in July 1920 aimed not only at the sovietisation of Poland, but also at taking the military campaign further westwards, in particular, to Germany and England. This intention was unknown to earlier historians working on the subject. Lenin believed that the Red Army offensive would ignite the spark of revolution across Europe, as it advanced, drawing fresh recruits into its ranks, as it had during the Bolshevik jihad . In this way, the Polish-Bolshevik War could be used as the initial engagement in a war against the capitalist Allied states, for the overthrow of the Versailles settlement, admitting, This was a most important turning point not only in the politics of Bolshevik empire but also in world politics... now we said we have become stronger, and we will respond with a counterattack to each of your attempts at attack... you risk that each of your attacks will expand the territory of the Bolshevik empire

They were going to attack eventually they just needed to build up their military as they were years behind.

Stalin owes American weapons for saving his communist ass.

 

[Litwin]

Stalin owes American weapons for saving his communist ass.

yes, everyone knows it , even stalin said it. Why putin and his thugs are lying about it ?

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[Litwin]

Thread 'In Moscow empire, they often highlight the USSR's victory in 1945 but ignore how Hitler and Stalin jointly started the war in 1939.'

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facts. facts. facts. which Muscovites, Marxists and Moscow´s useful idiots hate:

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[Grau]

During the negotiations on the Hitler-Stalin-Pact, old Bolshevik Molotov claimed Bornholm, Anholt and Northern Jutland as Bolshevik protectorates. These locations are part of Denmark. Ribbentrop refused the claim. - Jacob Kronika

Even more importantly, for the first time, Lenin acknowledged that the Red Army offensive into Poland in July 1920 aimed not only at the sovietisation of Poland, but also at taking the military campaign further westwards, in particular, to Germany and England. This intention was unknown to earlier historians working on the subject. Lenin believed that the Red Army offensive would ignite the spark of revolution across Europe, as it advanced, drawing fresh recruits into its ranks, as it had during the Bolshevik jihad . In this way, the Polish-Bolshevik War could be used as the initial engagement in a war against the capitalist Allied states, for the overthrow of the Versailles settlement, admitting, This was a most important turning point not only in the politics of Bolshevik empire but also in world politics... now we said we have become stronger, and we will respond with a counterattack to each of your attempts at attack... you risk that each of your attacks will expand the territory of the Bolshevik empire

When I was living in Germany over 50 years ago, I worked as a stone mason with a former SS officer who served on the Eastern Front.

After work, we would go somewhere to drink.
Because I was/ am also a combat Veteran of an unpopular war who had war related nightmares etc, he was comfortable sharing his war experiences. Among them was his observation that Communist forces were in offensive positions and fell more easily than if they were in defensive positions.

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[Mushroom]

They were going to attack eventually they just needed to build up their military as they were years behind.

It is less that they were "years behind", as they were actually partners with Germany for developing tanks and aircraft for years. But the Soviets had recently gone through another round of purges, and were still trying to rebuild their nation after yet another period of instability.

At the start of WWII, Germany and the Soviets were actually pretty much on par with each other when it comes to the quality of their equipment.

 

[shockedcanadian]

It is less that they were "years behind", as they were actually partners with Germany for developing tanks and aircraft for years. But the Soviets had recently gone through another round of purges, and were still trying to rebuild their nation after yet another period of instability.

At the start of WWII, Germany and the Soviets were actually pretty much on par with each other when it comes to the quality of their equipment.

I don't know about this assertion.

 

[Mushroom]

I don't know about this assertion.

Look up the Kama Tank School and Lipetsk Fighter-Pilot School. Both schools were run by the Soviets and Germany in the Soviet Union.

And look at the equipment that both sides had at the start of the war. The actual "Panzer Series" of tanks (I, II, III and IV) were really no different than the interwar tanks of the Soviet Union. Both sides only diverged after the war started.

The same with their aircraft. There is almost no difference between the two in their interwar aircraft. The Messerschmitt Bf 109 was not really any different than the LaGG-3 or Polikarpov I-16.

It is a simple fact, both had worked together for years on joint programs, and both were pretty equal at the start of the war. It was only once war broke out that they really started to diverge.

It always amazes me that when people think of WWII German tanks, they always think of the Tiger and Panther tanks (1942-1943). Not even realizing those are mid-late war tanks, built in response to the T-34 (1940).

The main tank of Germany prior to that was the Panzer series. Specifically the Panzer III and IV (the I and II were light tanks and already considered obsolete at the start of the war other than for recon). It was only with the introduction of the T-34 that the Germans largely dumped those and went to the Tiger series (then Panther). And by 1943, the actual "Panzer" tanks were largely regulated to things like convoy defense and rear echelon duties.

Please though, feel free to look up what equipment both sides were actually using between 1939 and 1941. And you will find that they are actually almost the same when it comes to tanks and aircraft. Other than the Soviets actually did invest in heavy bombers and artillery more than the Germans did. As well as rocket artillery.

The Soviets really bought into those in a big way. Building tens of thousands of multiple launch Katyusha rocket systems, while the Germans remained with the single tube then later six tube Nebelwerfer. Only in 2943 finally "waking up and smelling the coffee" and introducing the 10 tube Panzerwerfer.

Nebelwerfer:

Panzerwerfer:

Katyusha:

 

[excalibur]

Hitler beat Stalin to the punch.

That was the reason Stalin took a large part of Eastern Poland when Germany invaded it [Poland], to be closer to Berlin.

 

[whitehall]

You got it backwards. The German nationalist socialist regime secretly planned to invade Russia.

 

[Litwin]

Among them was his observation that Communist forces were in offensive positions and fell more easily than if they were in defensive positions.

cos an old Muscovite imperial tradition :

The Soviet Army Once Shot Its Own Troops For Retreating. The Russian Army Might Do The Same.

Barrier troops punish fleeing soldiers by arresting them. Or even shooting them, as Soviet barrier forces sometimes did during World War II.

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[Litwin]

The German nationalist socialist regime secretly planned to invade Russia.

Moscow Bolsheviks invaded Germany in 20s

 

[Litwin]

Hitler beat Stalin to the punch.

That was the reason Stalin took a large part of Eastern Poland when Germany invaded it [Poland], to be closer to Berlin.

"Icebreaker" by Viktor Suvorov (V. Rezun) is one the deepest insights into the Stalin's killing machine and its imperialistic politico-military foundations.