Did MAGA Rig the election?

[Slade3200]

Think so?

Yet now, with 14 million fewer votes going to Kamala Harris than Biden received, it’s hard not to wonder: was there more to Trump’s concerns than we first thought?​

The numbers are astonishing. Biden supposedly amassed an unprecedented 81 million votes in 2020 – more than any candidate in U.S. history, surpassing even Obama. And yet, just four years later, his successor Kamala Harris pulls in 66 million votes, a full 14 million fewer. That’s an entire electorate’s worth of votes gone missing. A collapse of this magnitude doesn’t happen out of thin air, and it raises a legitimate question: was Biden’s landslide in 2020 simply too good to be true?

Now, one might chalk this up to the natural ebbs and flows of the political tide. Anti-incumbency? Certainly a factor. The economy? Undoubtedly a thorn in the Democrats’ side. A lack of a clear, unifying message? Absolutely. And yet, these explanations don’t fully capture the monumental scale of the Democratic Party’s shortfall, particularly when compared with past election cycles. The historical trend just doesn’t align: Obama’s votes decreased modestly between 2008 and 2012. Hillary Clinton held steady in 2016. So how does Biden’s unprecedented gain in 2020 suddenly plummet in 2024? Something simply doesn’t add up.

Lara Trump, leading the charge this time around, didn’t leave a single stone unturned. Trump’s team was everywhere, watching, ensuring that the eyes of the nation were focused on this election. And lo and behold, with all this scrutiny in place, the Democratic vote tally has miraculously deflated.

Here’s the timeline that fuels our curiosity:

• 2008: Obama brings in 69 million votes.
• 2012: Obama still garners a solid 65 million.
• 2016: Hillary Clinton musters a respectable 65 million.
• 2020: Joe Biden receives a staggering 81 million.
• 2024: Kamala Harris tumbles down to 66 million.

Could the reality be that Trump’s so-called “conspiracy” was, in fact, a real concern? With 14 million votes now seemingly evaporated, we have to ask ourselves: were those votes ever truly there in the first place? Or was the 2020 election padded by a “get Trump out” machine that went to extraordinary lengths?

Many of us had our suspicions that very night in 2020. Who could forget that final massive surge of votes that appeared out of nowhere while we were watching live? And then, just like that, Arnon Mishkin, head of the Fox News decision desk, called the election. So many questions were left hanging in the air.

And when journalists started investigating and uncovered votes from people long laid to rest, we were promptly told to stop digging.

Of course, these are hard questions, and not ones the Democrats are keen to entertain. But for democracy to survive, transparency is essential. If the numbers don’t lie, they certainly raise suspicions. America deserves an answer to the question of whether those 81 million votes for Biden were, in fact, authentic. And if they weren’t, Trump wasn’t just making noise, he was issuing a legitimate warning.

So, as we look at this sudden evaporation of support in 2024, we must be willing to ask the uncomfortable questions. Did the Democrats really win in 2020, or did they construct a narrative too perfect to be real?

Was Trump Right All Along? The Mystery of the Missing Democratic Votes

Well, well, well. Here we are again, folks, with a question that has haunted America since that fateful night in November 2020: did the Democrats cheat? For four years, Donald Trump’s claim that the 2020 election was manipulated was dismissed as the ramblings of a sore loser, a conspiracy...

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14 million? you need to work on your math skills... maybe you and Blisterfinger can go to the same tutor

 

[Slade3200]

I am paraphrasing

Of course you are. Heaven forbid you use an actual quote... Then you couldn't make your distorted point.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Of course you are. Heaven forbid you use an actual quote... Then you couldn't make your distorted point.

You literally said Ben and I voted for a Fascist. Don’t be such a condescending prick.

 

[Blisterfinger]

You really shouldn't after all the fake numbers you've been throwing around this thread. Maybe you're learning... thats a good thing.

The turnout for Clinton was the second highest in our nations history missing the top spot by only 620K votes. Want to try again?

Looks like there was a lot more votes in the Biden Trump match up. Trump has been clearly the better candidate in all of this. Maybe that's going to be something that had to do with it. You apparently haven't learned anything either because you just threw out an abstract number that had nothing to do with anything. How could you do that? Is there something wrong with you?

 

[Slade3200]

People voting for him. What are you talking about? Are you feeling Ok? Same old duplicitous Herr Slade

Several here are attributing Bidens jump to cheating and fake votes. I've made the point that it was a COVID election with record engagement and turn out and they pretend like I'm lying or crazy. So I'm asking them for their explanation for how Trump got 11 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016.

Do you get it? Seem to you like I'm feel ok?

 

[Slade3200]

You literally said Ben and I voted for a Fascist. Don’t be such a condescending prick.

Yup, because I think you did.

 

[Blisterfinger]

14 million? you need to work on your math skills... maybe you and Blisterfinger can go to the same tutor

Maybe you should stop throwing out numbers that suit your agenda Slade. I also believe you are a liar who didn't vote so your opinion means very little. Better stick to correct facts

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Yup, because I think you did.

And that means you believe you’re smarter than him and me since we would never vote for a Fascist. See how that works?

 

[Slade3200]

You were asking why that election was not as popular. I said I don't know, why? Forgot to put in the comma LOL truth being I don't care enough to look it up. I'm not pedantic like you, I like to look at the big picture

This is the big picture. You're missing a huge part of it only focusing on Bidens jump and attributing it to cheating. Trump got a 11 million vote jump. You don't think its relevant to understand why and where that came from?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Several hear are attributing Bidens jump to cheating and fake votes. I've made the point that it was a COVID election with record engagement and turn out and they pretend like I'm lying or crazy. So I'm asking them for their explanation for how Trump got 11 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016.

Do you get it? Seem to you like I'm feel ok?

What record? Trump will get as many votes now as he did in 2020. Biden’s vote total is a statistical abnormality. Do you understand basic stats?

 

[Slade3200]

Maybe you should stop throwing out numbers that suit your agenda Slade. I also believe you are a liar who didn't vote so your opinion means very little. Better stick to correct facts

Which numbers did I throw out to suit my agenda. I don't even know what that means.

 

[Slade3200]

And that means you believe you’re smarter than him and me since we would never vote for a Fascist. See how that works?

wrong, thats your inaccurate conclusion. I don't think smarts necessarily has anything to do with it. Priorities and agenda play a big part as well. I think you are ignoring many things about Trump because he is on your team progressing an agenda that you agree with.

 

[Slade3200]

What record? Trump will get as many votes now as he did in 2020. Biden’s vote total is a statistical abnormality. Do you understand basic stats?

Trump got a 11 million vote jump in 2020... that is a statistical abnormality don't you think?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

wrong, thats your inaccurate conclusion. I don't think smarts necessarily has anything to do with it. Priorities and agenda play a big part as well. I think you are ignoring many things about Trump because he is on your team progressing an agenda that you agree with.

We would never vote for someone who shared the same values as Fascists who tried to genocide us. Hence you think you’re smarter than Ben and me. That makes you foolish and wrong. See how that works, Herr Slade?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Trump got a 11 million vote jump in 2020... that is a statistical abnormality don't you think?

No. Because he duplicated it in 2024. If you look at Obama and Harris they are in the same ballpark.

 

[XponentialChaos]

These numbers mean so much to you…

I’m just correcting your mistake that you kept repeating over and over and over.

Yet if you can do basic math, it is sticking out like a sore thumb now. Where did those 15 million votes go?

I learned how to subtract in grade school. Kamala Harris got 15 million votes less than Joe Biden. 81 million votes for Joe Biden! An absolutely unbelievable tally

Okay say it's 13 million. Where did they all go?

When I told you that they were still counting votes, you said that it was just a couple thousand votes, which I corrected as well.

It’s not 13 million. They’re still counting votes.

What part of this do you not understand?

Are you really going to argue about a couple thousand votes here or there?

Then I had to explain to you that it’s not a couple thousand. Really? You’re arguing that a big percent of California is just a couple thousand lol.

Most people would have enough common sense to figure out they messed up. But not you. You apparently think it’s wise to argue against simple arithmetic.

It took you a while, but I think you finally learned that you’re wrong.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

No. Progs do not have the mental acuity for political coordination to do so.

You seem bitter.

 

[Delldude]

So I'm asking them for their explanation for how Trump got 11 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016.

Several explanations out there.

According to an analysis by the New York Times, Trump picked up votes in Appalachia, the Southern portion of the Piedmont region, rural Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, and more agrarian sections of the Midwest. “The president made significant inroads with critical nonwhite swaths of the electorate while also growing his share of rural white voters,” Ken Spain, a Republican strategist, told the Times.

Trump Got 10 Million More Votes This Election. Where Did They Come From?

This election had more voters than ever before: Two-thirds of eligible Americans turned out to vote in 2020, with nearly 160 million voters casting ballots — 22 million more than in 2016, and the highest proportion of Americans exercising their right to vote since 1900. But who were the 10.1...

www.refinery29.com

Trump Got More Votes in 2020 Than Any Other Sitting President in History?

In his debate with Vice President Kamala Harris, Trump also claimed he had received more votes than any other GOP candidate in history.

www.snopes.com

Trump found more than 10 million new voters. They were not enough. (Published 2020)

www.nytimes.com

Even in Defeat, Trump Found New Voters Across the U.S. in the 2020 Election (Published 2020)

Though turnout was explosive for both candidates, President Trump found 10.1 million new supporters across the country, allowing him to expand his base.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Blisterfinger]

This is the big picture. You're missing a huge part of it only focusing on Bidens jump and attributing it to cheating. Trump got a 11 million vote jump. You don't think its relevant to understand why and where that came from?

Probably from women blacks and Hispanics. Hillary was a pretty poor candidate as well. Biden's 81 million is really kind of unbelievable. Do you understand anything about that?

 

[Slade3200]

We would never vote for someone who shared the same values as Fascists who tried to genocide us.

Haha, are you confusing the term fascism with Hitler? While yes Hitler was a fascist, he was also a socialist Nazi. He doesn't define the entire ideology. Read a definition. Trump fits a fascist in most aspects. The regulating private industry one being a grey area given his business history and connections. But you see him using those tactics with this tariff plan so the tendencies are still there. And with the rest of the characteristics of the ideology it is pretty spot on.