Dems, what course of action will they take? Do they resist and weather the 4yr storm or do they comply and act on behalf of the people?

When my country called, I answered.

You put them on hold.

Donald Trump had bone spurs... supposedly.
We have a volunteer army. Another lie.

No one called you and you were kicked out. You didn’t even know Israel was our ally. You lost another debate. Pretty sad. Then again if I had your life, I d be a miserable prick too.

The United States was the first country to recognize the nascent State of Israel on May 14, 1948. Since the 1960s, the Israel–U.S. relationship has grown into a mutually beneficial alliance in economic, strategic and military aspects.
 
We have a volunteer army. Another lie.

Exactly my point. You avoided military service.

No one called you and you were kicked out.

Actually, I was in for 11 years and got out at the rank of Staff Sergeant.

The United States was the first country to recognize the nascent State of Israel on May 14, 1948.

And it was an incredibly stupid thing to do. It alienated the whole of the Middle East.

In 1945, FDR had a meeting with the King of Saudi Arabia, who conselled him against supporting a Zionist state in Palestine. Why should Arabs be punished for what the Germans did? FDR agreed with him

Truman ignored the advice of General Marshall and recognized the Zionist Entity. We've had nothing but trouble ever since.

Since the 1960s, the Israel–U.S. relationship has grown into a mutually beneficial alliance in economic, strategic and military aspects.

No, it hasn't.

Besides dragging us into wars that were really not our problem, Israel has been worse than useless in the Gulf War or the War on Terror. They've actually given the other side something to gripe about.
 
Exactly my point. You avoided military service.



Actually, I was in for 11 years and got out at the rank of Staff Sergeant.



And it was an incredibly stupid thing to do. It alienated the whole of the Middle East.

In 1945, FDR had a meeting with the King of Saudi Arabia, who conselled him against supporting a Zionist state in Palestine. Why should Arabs be punished for what the Germans did? FDR agreed with him

Truman ignored the advice of General Marshall and recognized the Zionist Entity. We've had nothing but trouble ever since.



No, it hasn't.

Besides dragging us into wars that were really not our problem, Israel has been worse than useless in the Gulf War or the War on Terror. They've actually given the other side something to gripe about.
1) you lied
2) they are our ally this is a fact not an opinion
3) you were kicked out
4) see 1

Learn the difference between fact and opinion
 
Wow, I am living rent free in your head, aren't I?

I have a DD214.

You don't.
What does that have to do with you not knowing the difference between fact and opinion and not knowing that officially Israel is our ally?
 
Zoggie, you are spending a lot of time obsessing about me. It's very strange, really.
I ve told you. The lies you spread here will be challenged. Feel free to report me or put me on ignore. You’re no longer getting away with your propaganda.
 
You obviously fail to realize that you make yourself look foolish in doing so.

Because your arguments lack substance.
You didn’t know that Israel was our ally and you say my arguments lack substance? Some self reflection is most necessary. Do you know how many here have you on ignore? You are the least respected poster here and that says a lot.

You do get credit for one thing. Calling Mac Vichy Mac. It’s the biggest insult one can give. Curious why you gave him that nickname. He is a liar and I busted him but that’s not what why you call him that.

Indulge me
 
A majority is a majority. The mandate is real.

Like on mass deportations?
Mass deportations are going to have a massive drain on the Economy.

They will raise prices and cause a recession by Economists... But it will hard to distinguish that from the Trump Tariff price rises...

The big issue is how Trump is going to blame it on Democrats...
 
Mass deportations are going to have a massive drain on the Economy.

They will raise prices and cause a recession by Economists... But it will hard to distinguish that from the Trump Tariff price rises...

The big issue is how Trump is going to blame it on Democrats...
“Economists” aka those who guess.
 
You didn’t know that Israel was our ally and you say my arguments lack substance? Some self reflection is most necessary. Do you know how many here have you on ignore? You are the least respected poster here and that says a lot.

Guy, I've made a clear argument against Israel, that you want to ignore for religious reasons. That's kind of on you. A country that routinely engages in apartheid and genocide is not our friend or acts in our interest. That you can't argue that on substance is your issue.

You do get credit for one thing. Calling Mac Vichy Mac. It’s the biggest insult one can give. Curious why you gave him that nickname. He is a liar and I busted him but that’s not what why you call him that.

I call him that because he seems ready to surrender to Trump when the only proper thing to do is resist the guy at every opportunity.

He also consistently repeats false premises, such as Democrats have alienated white people. Bullshit. Democrats haven't won the white vote since 1964. When this is pointed out to him, he gets very upset. He has me on ignore, for whatever reason.
 
we oppose every stupid, inhumane thing Trump tries to do, and then wait for him to collapse in a pile of his own incompetence
I can appreciate you the opposition feeling that way. I felt the same way about Obama, Biden, and Harris and no it was not racism, ageism, or sexism.
 
Guy, I've made a clear argument against Israel, that you want to ignore for religious reasons. That's kind of on you. A country that routinely engages in apartheid and genocide is not our friend or acts in our interest. That you can't argue that on substance is your issue.



I call him that because he seems ready to surrender to Trump when the only proper thing to do is resist the guy at every opportunity.

He also consistently repeats false premises, such as Democrats have alienated white people. Bullshit. Democrats haven't won the white vote since 1964. When this is pointed out to him, he gets very upset. He has me on ignore, for whatever reason.
Except I wasn’t talking opinion I was talking fact. You can argue that Israel isn’t acting like an ally but to say they aren’t our ally is a flat out lie.

Thank you for your explanation on Mac the Liar
 
Mass deportations are going to have a massive drain on the Economy.

They will raise prices and cause a recession by Economists... But it will hard to distinguish that from the Trump Tariff price rises...

The big issue is how Trump is going to blame it on Democrats...
When they’re all gone do you really think we’ll spend more on the hikes on produce and the like than we’ll save on healthcare, on welfare, on education, on social services, on public services, on incarceration expenses? What about the gains in wages in blue collar trades and all across the job spectrum?
They cost us $150-$200B per year now each and every year. What was Laken Riley’s life worth to you? What about all the costs that we can’t really quantify…quality of life for real Americans, the denigration of American/western culture? The destruction of communities, cities and states? The meddling of our democracy?
https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf

JoeB131
 
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