Demonstrably false claims made agains Arab Palestinians

[Boston1]

This thread is a repository for demonstrably false claims made against the Arab Palestinians

feel free to post not just the claim but the proof of it being false

 

[TNHarley]

They voted in a terrorist organization to lead them.
Oh wait..

 

[MJB12741]

They voted in a terrorist organization to lead them.
Oh wait..

And what a wonderful job Hamas is doing to the Palestinians. LONG LIVE HAMAS!

 

[TNHarley]

They voted in a terrorist organization to lead them.
Oh wait..

And what a wonderful job Hamas is doing to the Palestinians. LONG LIVE HAMAS!

Yayyyy terrorism!

 

[Boston1]

Easy now. Lets let the pro palestinian faction have the same opportunity the pro Israeli faction have and see what shakes loose.

My take is I can think of numerous false claims made thus far on the part of the palestinian sympathizers but I'm not so sure the same can be said of the pro Israeli faction.

So lets see who can list what and with the proof needed to justify claiming something was a false claim

 

[montelatici]

Here is a Ruddy post:

"No such thing as a Palestinian. Invading Arabs, maybe."

 

[Roudy]

trolling me again? Well, for the last 700 years the ottomans who controlled the land didn't have a Palestine or Palestinians in any of their records or maps.

 

[Boston1]

trolling me again? Well, for the last 700 years the ottomans who controlled the land didn't have a Palestine or Palestinians in any of their records or maps.

I wonder if these guys will be able to dream up any primary source proofs ?

 

[Roudy]

trolling me again? Well, for the last 700 years the ottomans who controlled the land didn't have a Palestine or Palestinians in any of their records or maps.

I wonder if these guys will be able to dream up any primary source proofs ?

That's because any legitimate source actually refutes their claims.

 

[montelatici]

trolling me again? Well, for the last 700 years the ottomans who controlled the land didn't have a Palestine or Palestinians in any of their records or maps.

From 1570

and an Ottoman from 1804

'Palestine = فلاستان.


See Johann Strauss, “Nineteenth-Century Ottoman Americana,” pp. 259-281 in Frontiers of the Ottoman Imagination: Studies in Honour of Rhoads Murphey, Marios Hadjianastasis (ed.) (Leiden: Brill, 2015), 261-3; George Larpent (ed.), Turkey; its history and progress from the Journals and Correspondences of Sir James Porter (London: Hurst & Blackett, 1854), II, 162.

Afternoon Map: The First Printed Ottoman Map of Palestine, 1804

 

[Roudy]

Ha ha ha ho ho ho hee hee hee!

You see, these are the same lies and propaganda that have been debunked before, using your own sites and documents. Yet you insist on humiliating yourself. This is from the site you used to get your map:

Afternoon Map: Search results for Palestine

Our next map, like the rest in Jughrafiya-i Osmani (see 90, 101, 104, and 116), make no mention of Palestine anywhere.This was not uncommon for the period, as Palestine did not constitute an administrative district in the Ottoman Empire. Instead, the entire region is labeled ‘Suriye’ in all of these maps.

The final map in our collection comes from George Post’s Nabat Suriya wa-Filastin wa-al-Qatr al-Misri wa-Bawadiha (Beirut, n.p., 1884), 411 (The Flora of Syria, Palestine, and the Egyptian Country and its Desert). The title of the map itself is: The Botanical Climate of Syria (Aqalim Suriyya al-Nabatiyya). Note that Filastin does not appear anywhere on the map.

You see, dufus, no Palestine for the last 700 years of Ottoman rule. Palestine is a hoax.

Dig some more.

 

[montelatici]

So, some Ottoman maps show Palestine and others do not. What's your point? There was no Ottoman administrative unit called Israel, was there.

 

[Roudy]

So, the site you used clearly says that the Ottomans used the name Syria or Southern Syria.p, and did not recognize or know a Palestine or Pslestinians.

Read again:

Jughrafiya-i Osmani (see 90, 101, 104, and 116), make no mention of Palestine anywhere. This was not uncommon for the period, as Palestine did not constitute an administrative district in the Ottoman Empire. Instead, the entire region is labeled 'Suriye' in all of these maps.

Dig dig dig!

 

[montelatici]

So what? Ottoman maps had Palestine labeled some not. Israel was not labeled on any Ottoman map and Israel did not constitute an administrative district in the Ottoman Empire either. What's your point?

 

[Roudy]

So, Ottomans considered Palestine as part of Syria.

No Palestine or Palestinians during Ottoman Empire for the last 700 years.

Epic fail.

Dig!

 

[Boston1]

The term palestine is extremely difficult to find in history. I only know of a few specific uses of the term until you get to the British mandate period.

Which would lend support to the idea that neither, who would become the Syrians, or the Ottomans themselves distinguished this area as a separate entity or even called it palestine

 

[Roudy]

The term Palestinian is a recent 20th century invention. Certainly the Ottomans didn't consider any such thing for the last 700 years, and neither did the Arabs themselves.

 

[Roudy]

Again, Monte uses a document or site that shoots down his claim.

Ya gotta love it!

Epic fail...

..

 

[P F Tinmore]

trolling me again? Well, for the last 700 years the ottomans who controlled the land didn't have a Palestine or Palestinians in any of their records or maps.

 

[Roudy]

And I can make a video and call it Israel before 1948. Fact remains, there was no Palestine or Palestinians during the last 700 years of the land being part of the Ottoman Empire.

Case closed.