Democrats: Why do you want illegal aliens in America ?

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Since Democrats routinely (and falsely) claim that illegal aliens don't vote, then for what possible reason do you want them in the United States ? :dunno:

Why the protests against ICE ?

Why the GENERAL anger ? At what ? (unrelated to any rare, isolated incidents)

 
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Since Democrats routinely (and falsely) claim that illegal aliens don't vote, then for what possible reas on do you want them in he United States ? :dunno:

Why the protests against ICE ?

Why the GENERAL anger ? At what ? (unrelated to any rare, isolated incidents)

Democrats have never been able to give up having slaves. Even after we defeated them in a war over it.

Now, we have to do it again.
 
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In a recent Pew Research Center poll, 86% of Democrats said the Trump administration is doing too much on deportations.

Only 20% of Republicans said that,
 
Since Democrats routinely (and falsely) claim that illegal aliens don't vote, then for what possible reason do you want them in the United States ? :dunno:

Why the protests against ICE ?

Why the GENERAL anger ? At what ? (unrelated to any rare, isolated incidents)

The 2030 census will show millions have left democrat states and moved to GOP states. Democrats lose 15 seats in the house and the GOP gets them. Illegals replace lost population in democrat states thats why they have sanctuary cities to attract them
 
The 2030 census will show millions have left democrat states and moved to GOP states. Democrats lose 15 seats in the house and the GOP gets them. Illegals replace lost population in democrat states thats why they have sanctuary cities to attract them
Sounds about right. They claim illegals don't vote, but that is just more of their intelligence insulting.
 
Since Democrats routinely (and falsely) claim that illegal aliens don't vote, then for what possible reason do you want them in the United States ? :dunno:
First, any economist worth two shits will tell you those immigrants, even the illegal ones, add more to the economy than they take. Matter of fact, Friedman said illegal immigrants were especially beneficial to the economy. But second, to avoid negative population growth we need more immigrants, certainly not less.
Why the protests against ICE ?

Why the GENERAL anger ? At what ? (unrelated to any rare, isolated incidents)

The problem with ICE is, it is all show. You can pull the data from their websites, they are not deporting as many criminals as Biden did, not even close. They are deporting plenty of individuals that have not committed a crime, other than perhaps overstaying a VISA, not even entering illegally. Revoking asylum, eliminating student Visas, rounding up grandmothers that have been in the country for thirty years, raised families, produced taxpaying CITIZENS.

And due process, it has been thrown out the window. Just some quotes,

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us,
 
First, any economist worth two shits will tell you those immigrants, even the illegal ones, add more to the economy than they take. Matter of fact, Friedman said illegal immigrants were especially beneficial to the economy. But second, to avoid negative population growth we need more immigrants, certainly not less.

The problem with ICE is, it is all show. You can pull the data from their websites, they are not deporting as many criminals as Biden did, not even close. They are deporting plenty of individuals that have not committed a crime, other than perhaps overstaying a VISA, not even entering illegally. Revoking asylum, eliminating student Visas, rounding up grandmothers that have been in the country for thirty years, raised families, produced taxpaying CITIZENS.

And due process, it has been thrown out the window. Just some quotes,

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us,
I don't know what any of this gobbledegook in bold print is talking about. May as well have been in Chinese.

I will address the first part of the post.

Illegal aliens, of course, do NOT add more to the US economy than they take.
As millions of illegal aliens leave the country, their jobs are replaced by Americans at higher wages, creating more disposable income in the community. Thus, the deportations will increase business income, not decrease it.

Secondly, illegal aliens have been sending hundreds of billions of their $$ out of the country, boosting sales in those countries, but depriving US businesses of sales from that money. Now, as Americans fill the jobs illegals leave, instead of those $$$ flowing out of the country (remittances), they will be spent here, in US stores, increasing business income for US businesses.


Credit goes to US Trump voters.

As for negative population growth, less people (illegal aliens) makes
  • housing more affordable, (reduces congestion)
  • less money needed for welfare budgets,
  • less traffic congestion,
  • less pollution,
  • less crime
  • less overcrowding of hospital ERs & rooms,
  • less overcrowding of schools,
  • less overcrowding of government offices
  • less overcrowding of recreational facilities
  • more funds available for entitlements, per capita
  • less cultural erosion.
  • reduces overuse of scarce resources (oil, gasoline, fresh water, jobs, electricity, food, etc)
  • minimizes introduction of foreign diseases
  • reduces influx of terrorists.
  • reduces wildfires (illegals notorious for starting them
  • reduces litter
Biden did not deport anybody. Neither did Obama. Just like some of my friends & neighbors, you have been snowed by the MSM, and its constant barrage of myths. Obama & Biden practiced "Catch & Release" (abolished twice by Trump). As illegals were apprehended, they were issued a summons & date to appear in court (generally years in the future). 99% threw the summons away and melted right back into the US population. Almost nobody left the country.

ICE is deporting ALL illegal aliens, as Trump was elected to have ICE do.

Asylum is America's biggest immigration SCAM & should have been abolished decades ago. Migrants claim to be running from crime, & then on their long way here, they bypass counties with lower crimes rates than the US (but those countries don't offer all the welfare goodies that US Democrats do)

Who the hell needs student VISAs ? Nothing but another scam to bypass our immigration system.

People who entered the country 30 years ago, have been cheating & disrespecting our laws the longest of all the illegals. They should be the very first ones to be kicked out (if not sued for whatever $$$ they took at US taxpayer expense, & inconvenience caused to Americans)

The Alien Enemies Act allows the U.S. President to detain or deport individuals from enemy nations without a hearing, which raises concerns about due process rights. However, recent court rulings have affirmed that individuals detained under this act are entitled to notice and the opportunity to challenge their detention in court.
Since then, illegals have received brief hearings often no more than 5 minutes each (because most illegals have nothing to say), but there was a due process.
 
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Since Democrats routinely (and falsely) claim that illegal aliens don't vote, then for what possible reason do you want them in the United States ? :dunno:

Why the protests against ICE ?

Why the GENERAL anger ? At what ? (unrelated to any rare, isolated incidents)

Trump is against illegal aliens and whatever Trump is against Democrats are for. They are mentally ill with TDS.
 
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I don't know what any of this gobbledegook in bold print is talking about. May as well have been in Chinese.

I will address the first part of the post.

Illegal aliens, of course, do NOT add more to the US economy than they take.
As millions of illegal aliens leave the country, their jobs are replaced by Americans at higher wages, creating more disposable income in the community. Thus, the deportations will increase business income, not decrease it.

Secondly, illegal aliens have been sending hundreds of billions of their $$ out of the country, boosting sales in those countries, but depriving US businesses of sales from that money. Now, as Americans fill the jobs illegals leave, instead of those $$$ flowing out of the country (remittances), they will be spent here, in US stores, increasing business income for US businesses.


Credit goes to US Trump voters.

As for negative population growth, less people (illegal aliens) makes
  • housing more affordable, (reduces congestion)
  • less money needed for welfare budgets,
  • less traffic congestion,
  • less pollution,
  • less crime
  • less overcrowding of hospital ERs & rooms,
  • less overcrowding of schools,
  • less overcrowding of government offices
  • less overcrowding of recreational facilities
  • more funds available for entitlements, per capita
  • less cultural erosion.
  • reduces overuse of scarce resources (oil, gasoline, fresh water, jobs, electricity, food, etc)
  • minimizes introduction of foreign diseases
  • reduces influx of terrorists.
  • reduces wildfires (illegals notorious for starting them
  • reduces litter
Biden did not deport anybody. Neither did Obama. Just like some of my friends & neighbors, you have been snowed by the MSM, and its constant barrage of myths. Obama & Biden practiced "Catch & Release" (abolished twice by Trump). As illegals were apprehended, they were issued a summons & date to appear in court (generally years in the future). 99% threw the summons away and melted right back into the US population. Almost nobody left the country.

ICE is deporting ALL illegal aliens, as Trump was elected to have ICE do.

Asylum is America's biggest immigration SCAM & should have been abolished decades ago. Migrants claim to be running from crime, & then on their long way here, they bypass counties with lower crimes rates than the US (but those countries don't offer all the welfare goodies that US Democrats do)

Who the hell needs student VISAs ? Nothing but another scam to bypass our immigration system.

People who entered the country 30 years ago, have been cheating & disrespecting our laws the longest of all the illegals. They should be the very first ones to be kicked out (if not sued for whatever $$$ they took at US taxpayer expense, & inconvenience caused to Americans)

The Alien Enemies Act allows the U.S. President to detain or deport individuals from enemy nations without a hearing, which raises concerns about due process rights. However, recent court rulings have affirmed that individuals detained under this act are entitled to notice and the opportunity to challenge their detention in court.
Since then, illegals have received brief hearings often no more than 5 minutes each (because most illegals have nothing to say), but there was a due process.
Damn at the stupid. That Bolded gobbledegook, you know, that might have been Chinese. That came from the Declaration of Independence. Just a few of what were called "the intolerable acts".

As to the higher wages the so-called American workers make, how do companies pay those higher wages? Would that not force them to raise prices? Yes, they contribute more.


First-generation immigrants are more costly to governments than are the native-born, but the second generation are among the strongest fiscal and economic contributors in the U.S. This report concludes that immigration has an overall positive impact on long-run economic growth in the U.S.
As to the remittances, I mean come on, it is basic Macroeconomics. Those remittances increase the consumption of exports and while they may temporarily reduce short term growth they have a strong effect on minimizing inflation.

And to the rest of your post, talk about being mislead by the media. I mean where to start. Biden and Obama didn't deport anyone?


Whoops, guess you got some bad information. Matter of fact, looks like Biden deported more criminals every year than Trump will this year. Whoops, guess you got some wrong information. Immigrants not showing up for their hearings?

  • Asylum seekers nearly always show up for court hearings, regardless of whether they have legal representation.

 
Damn at the stupid. That Bolded gobbledegook, you know, that might have been Chinese. That came from the Declaration of Independence. Just a few of what were called "the intolerable acts".

As to the higher wages the so-called American workers make, how do companies pay those higher wages? Would that not force them to raise prices? Yes, they contribute more.


First-generation immigrants are more costly to governments than are the native-born, but the second generation are among the strongest fiscal and economic contributors in the U.S. This report concludes that immigration has an overall positive impact on long-run economic growth in the U.S.
As to the remittances, I mean come on, it is basic Macroeconomics. Those remittances increase the consumption of exports and while they may temporarily reduce short term growth they have a strong effect on minimizing inflation.

And to the rest of your post, talk about being mislead by the media. I mean where to start. Biden and Obama didn't deport anyone?


Whoops, guess you got some bad information. Matter of fact, looks like Biden deported more criminals every year than Trump will this year. Whoops, guess you got some wrong information. Immigrants not showing up for their hearings?

  • Asylum seekers nearly always show up for court hearings, regardless of whether they have legal representation.

So you still don't know that Obama & Biden didn't deport. As I said, they practiced "Catch & Release". Issued summonses (which went ignored), and then called all these summonses a "deportation". So all these so-called "deportations" that the left media has you duped into believing were deportations, were never anything more than little slips of paper that ordinarily were deposited into a wastebasket before the illegal even left the building.

And the link article you posted, is in concurrance with what I'm saying too. You walked right into that one. Notice the DATE on the article ? October 2020. When Trump was president.
As I said, (some people have to be told twice) Trump abolished "Catch & Release", so yeah, when that article was written, illegals DID show up, because they were already in jail, put there by the Trump 45 admin., not doing Catch & Release. They did Catch & Lock-up.
It was during the 12 years of Obama & Biden (+ 16 more yrs of Clinton & Bush) that illegals walked away from their summonses, and peacefully went back to their comfy US homes in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, etc, never to be heard from again.

Except for a few exceptions like housing, food, & gas (critical necessities), with 99% of all commodities, companies CANNOT raise prices, because they're already set at MARKET PRICE (highest price the firm can charge without triggering SALES REDUCTIONS).
Even in the case of the big 3, they are hard pressed to raise prices, as people can start driving less, use lower grade fuel, switch to smaller cars, move to smaller/cheaper apartments, eliminate luxury foods etc.

And oh yeah "immigration has an overall positive impact on long-run economic growth in the U.S." :right: Because it helps US economic growth so much to lose over $200 Billion in sales every year, right ? Is there a doctor in the house. Pheeeew!

As for minimizing inflation, recent economic history proves you dead wrong. I'm almost 80 years old, and in my entire life, I never saw inflation run hog wild (100-200% in the big 3), while Biden was importing 14 million illegal aliens, and remittances were at all all time highs.
 
Only consolation is that it was caught, discovered, and it now been taken to task. I HOPE that Pam Bondi will throw the book at these scammers, but I don't have a lot of confidence in her. She hasn't done anything but cut federal funds to sanctuary cities, which doesn't bother the wealthy governors & mayors. It will only hurt poor people in these cities, while rich politicians couldnt care less.

She should be JAILING these sanctuary rats.
 
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Because POC from the Turd World deserve the American Dream more than these Racis white muthafuckas
Yeah ? WHY do they deserve it ? - when they haven't served in US military, worked here for decades paying TAXES, or been helping their cities, states, & nation, like Americans of all races have been doing.

But we now know what a "Racis whatever muthafucka" you are.
 
Yeah ? WHY do they deserve it ? - when they haven't served in US military, worked here for decades paying TAXES, or been helping their cities, states, & nation, like Americans of all races have been doing.

But we now know what a "Racis whatever muthafucka" you are.
I’m an Ultra Conservative Nationalist Republican Militia inspired Shasta County Recall voter ( Who practices Judaism and speculates how the Pro Minority open Borders Marxists & Islamists think )
 
So you still don't know that Obama & Biden didn't deport. As I said, they practiced "Catch & Release". Issued summonses (which went ignored), and then called all these summonses a "deportation". So all these so-called "deportations" that the left media has you duped into believing were deportations, were never anything more than little slips of paper that ordinarily were deposited into a wastebasket before the illegal even left the building.

And the link article you posted, is in concurrance with what I'm saying too. You walked right into that one. Notice the DATE on the article ? October 2020. When Trump was president.
As I said, (some people have to be told twice) Trump abolished "Catch & Release", so yeah, when that article was written, illegals DID show up, because they were already in jail, put there by the Trump 45 admin., not doing Catch & Release. They did Catch & Lock-up.
It was during the 12 years of Obama & Biden (+ 16 more yrs of Clinton & Bush) that illegals walked away from their summonses, and peacefully went back to their comfy US homes in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, etc, never to be heard from again.

Except for a few exceptions like housing, food, & gas (critical necessities), with 99% of all commodities, companies CANNOT raise prices, because they're already set at MARKET PRICE (highest price the firm can charge without triggering SALES REDUCTIONS).
Even in the case of the big 3, they are hard pressed to raise prices, as people can start driving less, use lower grade fuel, switch to smaller cars, move to smaller/cheaper apartments, eliminate luxury foods etc.

And oh yeah "immigration has an overall positive impact on long-run economic growth in the U.S." :right: Because it helps US economic growth so much to lose over $200 Billion in sales every year, right ? Is there a doctor in the house. Pheeeew!

As for minimizing inflation, recent economic history proves you dead wrong. I'm almost 80 years old, and in my entire life, I never saw inflation run hog wild (100-200% in the big 3), while Biden was importing 14 million illegal aliens, and remittances were at all all time highs.
Well damn, guess that almost eighty years old things explains a lot. Why are you incessant on living in a fantasy world where Biden and Obama didn't deport anyone. Deportations require a deportation order, and yes, those scheduled for immigration court generally show up. It is total ignorance to claim that those rates of court appearances only were high under Trump.


From 2008 to 2018. Stop the damn stupid. And companies can't raise prices, then why the **** don't we increase the corporate tax rate. Hell, prices are already set at the market price. You flippin Republicans are a damn hoot. But the remittances thing, that is really stupid. An immigrant sends a hundred dollars to, hell I don't know, Honduras. That is one hundred dollars going out of the domestic economy. That is one hundred dollars that you don't have to compete against when it comes to purchasing.

I mean your guys are not consistent. So, inflation is spurred by the government printing dollars, that is more dollars chasing the same amount of goods. So how is less dollars, chasing the same amount of goods, not helpful in controlling inflation? Hell, it is common sense. The immigrant produces goods here, gets paid, and then sends the money away. More goods, less dollars, DU HUH. The reality is those remittances have an overwhelming positive impact here and are often times extremely destabilizing to the receiving country, spurring inflation there, dependency, loss of productivity, the list goes on.

I mean where do you get that two billion in sales lost, is that the amount of remittances in a year. Two ******* billion dollars paid to workers to produce and then sent away. This is damn common sense.
 
Yeah ? WHY do they deserve it ? - when they haven't served in US military, worked here for decades paying TAXES, or been helping their cities, states, & nation, like Americans of all races have been doing.

But we now know what a "Racis whatever muthafucka" you are.
WTF, you think immigrants don't serve in the US military? You think they don't pay taxes? They don't help cities, states, and the nation? You are an ignorant old fool.
 
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