Democrats, What is the Absolute Best Outcome You See for the Alien Enemies Act Cases?

[Seymour Flops]

Now, we have another judge who just "needs time to think," about whether it is legal to deport foreign gang members under the Alien Enemies Act.

Federal judge blocks new deportations under Alien Enemies Act

A federal judge issued a new blockade Friday preventing President Trump from deporting Venezuelan gang suspects who are being held in southern Texas.

www.washingtontimes.com

A federal judge issued a new blockade Friday preventing President Trump from deporting Venezuelan gang suspects who are being held in southern Texas.

Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr. said he needs time to evaluate the administration’s claims about its powers under the Alien Enemies Act. He issued a temporary restraining order blocking the deportations.

The Supreme Court earlier this week ruled that Mr. Trump must give deportation targets under the AEA a chance to mount a challenge to the removal in federal courts.

Dems made some progress this week, with the USSC giving some legs - possibly temporary - to these Fed Judges we never heard of directing national policy. My question is progress toward what?

What is the ultimate end game? Is it that there be no more deportations? Is it that deportations are possible, but must follow a very strict and time-consuming process and only apply to people who have been convicted of crimes after illegally entering? Is it that there be a process, but that it be very quick and effecient?

If you are able to bring about any of those scenarios, resulting in far more illegal aliens in the country than would have been here if deportations still looked like they did under Obama and Biden, how will that affect your presidential ambitions in 2028?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Now, we have another judge who just "needs time to think," about whether it is legal to deport foreign gang members under the Alien Enemies Act.

Federal judge blocks new deportations under Alien Enemies Act

A federal judge issued a new blockade Friday preventing President Trump from deporting Venezuelan gang suspects who are being held in southern Texas.

www.washingtontimes.com

A federal judge issued a new blockade Friday preventing President Trump from deporting Venezuelan gang suspects who are being held in southern Texas.

Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr. said he needs time to evaluate the administration’s claims about its powers under the Alien Enemies Act. He issued a temporary restraining order blocking the deportations.

The Supreme Court earlier this week ruled that Mr. Trump must give deportation targets under the AEA a chance to mount a challenge to the removal in federal courts.

Dems made some progress this week, with the USSC giving some legs - possibly temporary - to these Fed Judges we never heard of directing national policy. My question is progress toward what?

What is the ultimate end game? Is it that there be no more deportations? Is it that deportations are possible, but must follow a very strict and time-consuming process and only apply to people who have been convicted of crimes after illegally entering? Is it that there be a process, but that it be very quick and effecient?

If you are able to bring about any of those scenarios, resulting in far more illegal aliens in the country than would have been here if deportations still looked like they did under Obama and Biden, how will that affect your presidential ambitions in 2028?

We are not at war..with anyone.
Like it or not, the Constitution guarantees due process....for everyone.

 

[Seymour Flops]

We are not at war..with anyone.
Like it or not, the Constitution guarantees due process....for everyone.

No, no. No meaningless ranting.

Answer the questions.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

No, no. No meaningless ranting.

Answer the questions.

Not a rant. Facts. I know you don't like those but the Alien Enemies Act was a wartime invocation. We are at war with no one.
The Constitution guarantees due process. If you want the best possible outcome, follow the law and don't use any heavy handed, fascist moves. If you weren't so fucking incredibly stupid and dismantled the immigration process, you might have been able to move these due process hearings along at a much faster clip.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Not a rant. Facts. I know you don't like those but the Alien Enemies Act was a wartime invocation. We are at war with no one.
The Constitution guarantees due process. If you want the best possible outcome, follow the law and don't use any heavy handed, fascist moves. If you weren't so fucking incredibly stupid and dismantled the immigration process, you might have been able to move these due process hearings along at a much faster clip.

Yeah, yeah. That's all been said before. It's meaningless to repeat it, no matter how valid it is or isn't.

Answer the questions. Why are you afraid of them?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Yeah, yeah. That's all been said before. It's meaningless to repeat it, no matter how valid it is or isn't.

Answer the questions. Why are you afraid of them?

I answered your question. Now defend your belief. You are for fascism and the denial of due process?

 

[otto105]

Now, we have another judge who just "needs time to think," about whether it is legal to deport foreign gang members under the Alien Enemies Act.

Federal judge blocks new deportations under Alien Enemies Act

A federal judge issued a new blockade Friday preventing President Trump from deporting Venezuelan gang suspects who are being held in southern Texas.

www.washingtontimes.com

A federal judge issued a new blockade Friday preventing President Trump from deporting Venezuelan gang suspects who are being held in southern Texas.

Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr. said he needs time to evaluate the administration’s claims about its powers under the Alien Enemies Act. He issued a temporary restraining order blocking the deportations.

The Supreme Court earlier this week ruled that Mr. Trump must give deportation targets under the AEA a chance to mount a challenge to the removal in federal courts.

Dems made some progress this week, with the USSC giving some legs - possibly temporary - to these Fed Judges we never heard of directing national policy. My question is progress toward what?

What is the ultimate end game? Is it that there be no more deportations? Is it that deportations are possible, but must follow a very strict and time-consuming process and only apply to people who have been convicted of crimes after illegally entering? Is it that there be a process, but that it be very quick and effecient?

If you are able to bring about any of those scenarios, resulting in far more illegal aliens in the country than would have been here if deportations still looked like they did under Obama and Biden, how will that affect your presidential ambitions in 2028?

To use the act when we are at war.

 

[MarathonMike]

I answered your question. Now defend your belief. You are for fascism and the denial of due process?

No you didn't. You did your usual Trump Hater tap dance. LOL

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

No you didn't. You did your usual Trump Hater tap dance. LOL

Response wasn't directed at you, slinky.
And yes..I did answer the posters question.

 

[MarathonMike]

Response wasn't directed at you, slinky.
And yes..I did answer the posters question.

Read the thread title again and find that once again you are proven wrong. You only want Constitutional Law followed when it suits your political desires. J6 proved that.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Read the thread title again and find that once again you are proven wrong. You only want Constitutional Law followed when it suits your political desires. J6 proved that.

J6th was an insurrection. If that were Clinton and her supporters after 2016, you'd have been screaming from the rafters for blood.
Talk about inconsistency.

Again, the questions were answered. Follow the law. Not my problem that you foolishly dismantled the very system that could have expedited the deportation process. And we are not at war.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I answered your question. Now defend your belief. You are for fascism and the denial of due process?

To use the act when we are at war.

Wow. These little questions must be terrifying for you:

What is the ultimate end game? Is it that there be no more deportations? Is it that deportations are possible, but must follow a very strict and time-consuming process and only apply to people who have been convicted of crimes after illegally entering? Is it that there be a process, but that it be very quick and effecient?

If you are able to bring about any of those scenarios, resulting in far more illegal aliens in the country than would have been here if deportations still looked like they did under Obama and Biden, how will that affect your presidential ambitions in 2028?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Wow. These little questions must be terrifying for you:

What is the ultimate end game? Is it that there be no more deportations? Is it that deportations are possible, but must follow a very strict and time-consuming process and only apply to people who have been convicted of crimes after illegally entering? Is it that there be a process, but that it be very quick and effecient?

If you are able to bring about any of those scenarios, resulting in far more illegal aliens in the country than would have been here if deportations still looked like they did under Obama and Biden, how will that affect your presidential ambitions in 2028?

Are you dumb? Or just stupid? Now you're blowing up your own thread? I'll reiterate. The best outcome..is to follow the law. The Constitution allows due process..for everyone. The process would not be time consuming had your savior and his minions not dismantled the very system that could have made the process quicker. That's not an excuse to invoke fascism. We are not at war.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The law being followed. Thats all

 

[Seymour Flops]

Are you dumb? Or just stupid? Now you're blowing up your own thread? I'll reiterate. The best outcome..is to follow the law. The Constitution allows due process..for everyone. The process would not be time consuming had your savior and his minions not dismantled the very system that could have made the process quicker. That's not an excuse to invoke fascism. We are not at war.

The law being followed. Thats all

If you are able to bring about any of those scenarios, resulting in far more illegal aliens in the country than would have been here if deportations still looked like they did under Obama and Biden, how will that affect your presidential ambitions in 2028?

 

[BackAgain]

We are not at war..with anyone.
Like it or not, the Constitution guarantees due process....for everyone.

And on what basis do you imagine that we need to be “at war?”

 

[Zincwarrior]

If you are able to bring about any of those scenarios, resulting in far more illegal aliens in the country than would have been here if deportations still looked like they did under Obama and Biden, how will that affect your presidential ambitions in 2028?

I don't think my election chances will be impacted.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I don't think my election chances will be impacted.

Your Party's will. What little chance they have now will evaporate if a single suspected terrorist gang member makes it back to the United States because of the Democrat lawfare.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Your Party's will. What little chance they have now will evaporate if a single suspected terrorist gang member makes it back to the United States because of the Democrat lawfare.

Its not lawfare. Its following the goddamn law.

 

[otto105]

Wow. These little questions must be terrifying for you:

What is the ultimate end game? Is it that there be no more deportations? Is it that deportations are possible, but must follow a very strict and time-consuming process and only apply to people who have been convicted of crimes after illegally entering? Is it that there be a process, but that it be very quick and effecient?

If you are able to bring about any of those scenarios, resulting in far more illegal aliens in the country than would have been here if deportations still looked like they did under Obama and Biden, how will that affect your presidential ambitions in 2028?

The act has only been used 3 times in our history and only in times of war.

It is a fascist act to utilize wartime powers to achieve political objectives. If their gang members then we can use existing laws to deport them.