Democrats keep saying "no scotus until the people decide"

[Ray From Cleveland]

If Trump wanted to be a complete and utter boss, he'd say that he's waiting until after the 2018 mid-terms are over so that he can nominate anyone he wants, since the republicans will pick up seats in the 51. "I don't want to have to worry about getting Susan Collins' vote, so we'll just easily sail someone through at the beginning of 2019 with 55 or so republicans votes in the Senate.

It would stand a small chance at backfiring but man, that would be a such a pimp-ass move.

Not true. The Senate is fully in play. That is why Republicans started a campaign to get Kennedy to retire now before the midterms.

I never heard of such a campaign. When did it start?

 

[busybee01]

Republicans set the precedent. Does not matter whether it is Presidential or Congressional elections.

It doesn't matter to you simply because your party is not in the White House or in control of the Senate. The precedent of which you speak referred to an upcoming presidential election and that the voters should be able to choose the president who will make the next appointment. We already know which president is making the nomination.

I don't have a party. Ronald Reagan would not be a part of the Trump Republican Party. I am going to be fighting to get rid of the Trump Republican Party including something I never have nor ever thought I would need to do. Vote for a Democrat.

You were never a Republican.

I voted for every Republican from 1980 to 2012. You shut your yap and don't tell me what I did.

Sure you have....

No one who voted for Reagan could ever vote for a Democrat today.

Sometimes you have to vote for a devil to get rid of the devil. Reagan would not be a part of the Trump Republican Party.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Thing is the people already decided when the GOP hijacked the process under Obama. Like that act or not it put the direction of the court FIRMLY in the hands of the voter.
Voters chose and the left lost so why hold up more nominees when the people have already spoken?

And spare me the popular vote or Russia Russia Russia bullshit.

You can say one thing about the Demorats they are masters at dragging their feet after a ass kicking and still ask for more. Since the Court has ruled that the States can purge voter list the Democrat voter will be removed since they have been dead for 11 years.

And when they lose the next election, they will add that to their list of why they lost and how the Republicans cheated.

 

[busybee01]

If Trump wanted to be a complete and utter boss, he'd say that he's waiting until after the 2018 mid-terms are over so that he can nominate anyone he wants, since the republicans will pick up seats in the 51. "I don't want to have to worry about getting Susan Collins' vote, so we'll just easily sail someone through at the beginning of 2019 with 55 or so republicans votes in the Senate.

It would stand a small chance at backfiring but man, that would be a such a pimp-ass move.

Not true. The Senate is fully in play. That is why Republicans started a campaign to get Kennedy to retire now before the midterms.

I never heard of such a campaign. When did it start?

Grassley tries to nudge Supreme Court justices into early retirement

McConnell aims to reshape courts in case Senate flips

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, fucknut, the Constitution grants the President the authority to NOMINATE judges, and it grants the Senate the right to confirm them or not. So no, he got exactly what the Constitution prescribes, and he wasn't "robbed" because you arrogant pusbags thought he was entitled to run the country singlehanded, and it turned out he wasn't.

LOL

You should look in the mirror if you’re looking for a fucknut. Despite your ignorance, the Constitution authorizes thd President to appoint replacements, just as I said.

It’s a 4 step process... (1) a seat opens up; (2) the president nominates a replacement; (3) if the Senate confirms the nominee; (4) the president appoints them to the bench...

He [the president] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate (3),[/COLOR] and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate (3), shall appoint (4)Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.​

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With Garland, the Senate didn't consent.

Even before Garland, they had already declared Obama would not get to appoint any replacement to the Supreme Court.

But no worries, karma is strong in politics. What goes around, comes around; and I have no doubt the day will come when the shoe will be on the other foot and then Democrats can invoke the McConnell rule.

Even before Garland, they had already declared Obama would not get to appoint any replacement to the Supreme Court.


And they were right.

Well then you’ll be ok with it when a Democrat-led Senate shuts out a Republican President at some point in the future, potentially for years.

They may, and when the voters get sick of it, they will make a change just like they did the last time.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Republicans are the hypocrites. They refused to act on Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland by saying that voters should decide in the election. This is a good example of how Republicans have abused their majorities.

If you knew your political history, BB...you'd know that it was Joe Biden who put forth the idea that a lame duck President shouldn't be able to appoint a Supreme Court Justice right before an election. Who's really the hypocrite on this?

You seem to have forgotten Mitch McConnell's warnings to the Democrats back when they used the nuclear option to pack the Federal Courts with liberal judges. McConnell told the Democratic leadership that they would regret what they were doing and sooner than they could imagine. Guess what...he was spot on!

So what. I think that was wrong. I voted for neither major party candidate in 2016. I only know what is right. The Garland nomination should have been voted on.

What's rather ironic, BB is that I believe the reason Democrats didn't push the Garland nomination as hard as they could have...is that they were completely confident that Hillary Clinton would be the next President of the United States and that SHE could then nominate an even more liberal Justice! That was a gamble that Mitch McConnell and the GOP took as well because although Garland was liberal...he might very well have been far less liberal than the Justice that a Hillary Clinton might have selected. Give McConnell credit...he guessed right on the election and the leaders of the Democratic Party did not!

That may be what's in play now. Kavanaugh is not the most right of the bunch, yet if he's voted down and the Democrats lose more seats in the Senate, the next appointment will be far right and the Dems my just regret their revenge.

 

[busybee01]

The electorate does not care about filling court seats

They proved that in 2016

Maybe not your electorate, but Trump will have the bully pulpit and I'm sure he will use it to tear Democrats a new asshole if his nominees are held up. The guy has a knack of being able to rile up our base as you have witnessed in the past.

Some bully pulpit with 42 percent approval

Dems played that card in 2016 and voters did not care that the court sat empty. What makes you think they will care in 2020?

People just didn't want to see a Commie Court. Your side is a huge threat to freedom in this country and more and more people are realizing it, especially since some in your party consider Cortez the new face of the DNC; an admitted Socialist.

The real difference is how each side vents their anger. When your people get upset, they have protests, riots, attacking patrons in a restaurant, attacking children eating a hamburger, and by the time elections come around, you vented.

With us, we hold our anger in like a wife who's husband totally forgot their anniversary. But we don't burn down businesses, attack police officers.......we let all our anger out when we go vote. A hurricane or tornado can't stop us because we're so pissed.

So again, if your Senators want to rile up our base, then all we can do is let them.

We have a court where conservatives support higher taxes on Americans and believe that no warrant is required for cellphone records. That is not a court that I want.

The SC rules based on the US Constitution. In the Constitution, Congress creates taxes, spending and laws. I don't know anywhere in the document that mentions cell phone records.

The Constitution talks about illegal search and seizure. You need a warrant to get phone records so cellphone records are no different. Conservatives ignored the Constitution in several of their decisions.

 

[busybee01]

Republicans are the hypocrites. They refused to act on Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland by saying that voters should decide in the election. This is a good example of how Republicans have abused their majorities.

You know that Marxist Elena Kagan was nominate right at the 2010 congressional election, right Comrade?

Do you grasp that we are NOT changing presidents this time around? Trump will appoint regardless.

Stalinists, stupid as dog shit, but not as pleasant to be around..

You are a fascist pig.

The Senate has a role to play so it is legitimate to wait until after the midterms.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We the people elected Obama to make Supreme Court selections

And Obama made his selection, and the US Senate rejected it. The fact that they rejected it without formal hearings or a formal vote doesn't change that fact.

Had they done that, it wouldn’t have been an issue. What actually did was announce prior to Obama’s nomination that he need not nominate anyone because they were going to deny him his appointment no matter who he selected.

Had they done that, it wouldn’t have been an issue.

Oh come on, even you can't believe that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Republicans are the hypocrites. They refused to act on Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland by saying that voters should decide in the election. This is a good example of how Republicans have abused their majorities.

You know that Marxist Elena Kagan was nominate right at the 2010 congressional election, right Comrade?

Do you grasp that we are NOT changing presidents this time around? Trump will appoint regardless.

Stalinists, stupid as dog shit, but not as pleasant to be around..

You are a fascist pig.

The Senate has a role to play so it is legitimate to wait until after the midterms.

It's legitimate? When has the Senate ever stopped an appointment over midterms before?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Maybe not your electorate, but Trump will have the bully pulpit and I'm sure he will use it to tear Democrats a new asshole if his nominees are held up. The guy has a knack of being able to rile up our base as you have witnessed in the past.

Some bully pulpit with 42 percent approval

Dems played that card in 2016 and voters did not care that the court sat empty. What makes you think they will care in 2020?

People just didn't want to see a Commie Court. Your side is a huge threat to freedom in this country and more and more people are realizing it, especially since some in your party consider Cortez the new face of the DNC; an admitted Socialist.

The real difference is how each side vents their anger. When your people get upset, they have protests, riots, attacking patrons in a restaurant, attacking children eating a hamburger, and by the time elections come around, you vented.

With us, we hold our anger in like a wife who's husband totally forgot their anniversary. But we don't burn down businesses, attack police officers.......we let all our anger out when we go vote. A hurricane or tornado can't stop us because we're so pissed.

So again, if your Senators want to rile up our base, then all we can do is let them.

We have a court where conservatives support higher taxes on Americans and believe that no warrant is required for cellphone records. That is not a court that I want.

The SC rules based on the US Constitution. In the Constitution, Congress creates taxes, spending and laws. I don't know anywhere in the document that mentions cell phone records.

The Constitution talks about illegal search and seizure. You need a warrant to get phone records so cellphone records are no different. Conservatives ignored the Constitution in several of their decisions.

Search and seizure (at the time) meant that the government couldn't bust in your home, rip up the floorboards of your daughters bedroom looking for evidence against the state. Anybody that thinks cell phone communications are private is a total idiot.

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans set the precedent. Does not matter whether it is Presidential or Congressional elections.

It doesn't matter to you simply because your party is not in the White House or in control of the Senate. The precedent of which you speak referred to an upcoming presidential election and that the voters should be able to choose the president who will make the next appointment. We already know which president is making the nomination.

I don't have a party. Ronald Reagan would not be a part of the Trump Republican Party. I am going to be fighting to get rid of the Trump Republican Party including something I never have nor ever thought I would need to do. Vote for a Democrat.

You were never a Republican.

I was

 

[ptbw forever]

Republicans set the precedent. Does not matter whether it is Presidential or Congressional elections.

It doesn't matter to you simply because your party is not in the White House or in control of the Senate. The precedent of which you speak referred to an upcoming presidential election and that the voters should be able to choose the president who will make the next appointment. We already know which president is making the nomination.

I don't have a party. Ronald Reagan would not be a part of the Trump Republican Party. I am going to be fighting to get rid of the Trump Republican Party including something I never have nor ever thought I would need to do. Vote for a Democrat.

You were never a Republican.

I was

Sure you were.....

 

[rightwinger]

Some bully pulpit with 42 percent approval

Dems played that card in 2016 and voters did not care that the court sat empty. What makes you think they will care in 2020?

People just didn't want to see a Commie Court. Your side is a huge threat to freedom in this country and more and more people are realizing it, especially since some in your party consider Cortez the new face of the DNC; an admitted Socialist.

The real difference is how each side vents their anger. When your people get upset, they have protests, riots, attacking patrons in a restaurant, attacking children eating a hamburger, and by the time elections come around, you vented.

With us, we hold our anger in like a wife who's husband totally forgot their anniversary. But we don't burn down businesses, attack police officers.......we let all our anger out when we go vote. A hurricane or tornado can't stop us because we're so pissed.

So again, if your Senators want to rile up our base, then all we can do is let them.

We have a court where conservatives support higher taxes on Americans and believe that no warrant is required for cellphone records. That is not a court that I want.

The SC rules based on the US Constitution. In the Constitution, Congress creates taxes, spending and laws. I don't know anywhere in the document that mentions cell phone records.

The Constitution talks about illegal search and seizure. You need a warrant to get phone records so cellphone records are no different. Conservatives ignored the Constitution in several of their decisions.

Search and seizure (at the time) meant that the government couldn't bust in your home, rip up the floorboards of your daughters bedroom looking for evidence against the state. Anybody that thinks cell phone communications are private is a total idiot.

Communications are over the air and can be intercepted

Your cell phone records are private

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If Trump wanted to be a complete and utter boss, he'd say that he's waiting until after the 2018 mid-terms are over so that he can nominate anyone he wants, since the republicans will pick up seats in the 51. "I don't want to have to worry about getting Susan Collins' vote, so we'll just easily sail someone through at the beginning of 2019 with 55 or so republicans votes in the Senate.

It would stand a small chance at backfiring but man, that would be a such a pimp-ass move.

Not true. The Senate is fully in play. That is why Republicans started a campaign to get Kennedy to retire now before the midterms.

I never heard of such a campaign. When did it start?

Grassley tries to nudge Supreme Court justices into early retirement

McConnell aims to reshape courts in case Senate flips

From your first link:

“So my message to any one of the nine Supreme Court justices, if you’re thinking about quitting this year, do it yesterday.“

Your second link didn't even mention Kennedy.

Please don't waste my time Googling the internet to find something to support your point if you yourself are not going to read them to understand they don't.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

People just didn't want to see a Commie Court. Your side is a huge threat to freedom in this country and more and more people are realizing it, especially since some in your party consider Cortez the new face of the DNC; an admitted Socialist.

The real difference is how each side vents their anger. When your people get upset, they have protests, riots, attacking patrons in a restaurant, attacking children eating a hamburger, and by the time elections come around, you vented.

With us, we hold our anger in like a wife who's husband totally forgot their anniversary. But we don't burn down businesses, attack police officers.......we let all our anger out when we go vote. A hurricane or tornado can't stop us because we're so pissed.

So again, if your Senators want to rile up our base, then all we can do is let them.

We have a court where conservatives support higher taxes on Americans and believe that no warrant is required for cellphone records. That is not a court that I want.

The SC rules based on the US Constitution. In the Constitution, Congress creates taxes, spending and laws. I don't know anywhere in the document that mentions cell phone records.

The Constitution talks about illegal search and seizure. You need a warrant to get phone records so cellphone records are no different. Conservatives ignored the Constitution in several of their decisions.

Search and seizure (at the time) meant that the government couldn't bust in your home, rip up the floorboards of your daughters bedroom looking for evidence against the state. Anybody that thinks cell phone communications are private is a total idiot.

Communications are over the air and can be intercepted

Your cell phone records are private

All your cell phone records can provide is who you called, who may have called you, and how much time you spent on the calls. Nothing too personal about that.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You are a fascist pig.

Of course I am, because uh, um, OBAMA AKBAR.



Fucking retard.

The Senate has a role to play so it is legitimate to wait until after the midterms.

Yet you Communists didn't in 2010.

The question of Garland had to do with the fact there would be a new PRESIDENT.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Republicans set the precedent. Does not matter whether it is Presidential or Congressional elections.

It doesn't matter to you simply because your party is not in the White House or in control of the Senate. The precedent of which you speak referred to an upcoming presidential election and that the voters should be able to choose the president who will make the next appointment. We already know which president is making the nomination.

I don't have a party. Ronald Reagan would not be a part of the Trump Republican Party. I am going to be fighting to get rid of the Trump Republican Party including something I never have nor ever thought I would need to do. Vote for a Democrat.

You were never a Republican.

I was

Republican Guard for Saddam?

 

[my2¢]

Democrats keep saying "no scotus until the people decide", if you're a partisan politician that's what you do.

Not that I agree with the tactic, the words I added simply popped into my head as if I was hearing a GEICO commercial.

 

[WEATHER53]

Popular vote winning, addled liberals picking the Supreme Court. Liberals feel it should be this way therefore it is