Democrats keep saying "no scotus until the people decide"

[ptbw forever]

Thing is the people already decided when the GOP hijacked the process under Obama. Like that act or not it put the direction of the court FIRMLY in the hands of the voter.
Voters chose and the left lost so why hold up more nominees when the people have already spoken?

And spare me the popular vote or Russia Russia Russia bullshit.

Actually, the people decided when they elected Obama.

Twice.

With over 50% of the vote.

Twice.

With an overwhelming majority in both the popular vote by the people, and the electoral college.

Twice.

Which will be irrelevant over the next 30 years anyway, as white conservatives become a total minority in America, and a multicultural majority of Liberals erases the current 242 years of conservatism permanently from the landscape.

Just imagine your legacy in the history books gramps.

Which is what I've been saying for over a year now: the Democrat party has become the anti-white party. No lib will actually admit that, but your comment is as close as any lib has come.

There have been much worse comments by Democrats about whites throughout the web.

 

[Slyhunter]

Republicans are the hypocrites. They refused to act on Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland by saying that voters should decide in the election. This is a good example of how Republicans have abused their majorities.

Merrick Garland was unqualified. As unqualified as Robert Bork.

Garland deserved a up or down vote. If you say he was unqualified then he as probably qualified.

Okay, so if they voted they would have voted him down. Do you think that would have changed anything today given what's on the line for the Democrats? Either way they would have never got the justice of their choice.

What about the next candidate and the one after that?

Garland was moderate, Republicans would vote down anyone nominated by oBama

Democrats will return the favor

Garland was during a Presidential election year. This one isn't.
Only a Democrat would be blind to the difference.

 

[Polishprince]

Republicans have decided to take the selection of Supreme Court justices away from the president

Let them live with it

Au contraire, President Trump is announcing the new Supreme Court justice this evening.

From his tweets and other public statements, the choice will be a tremendous one.

 

[Slyhunter]

Republicans have decided to take the selection of Supreme Court justices away from the president

Let them live with it

Au contraire, President Trump is announcing the new Supreme Court justice this evening.

From his tweets and other public statements, the choice will be a tremendous one.

Trey Dowdy?

 

[Auld Phart]

Exactly.

To quote B. Hussein O himself, "Elections have Consequences".

When the Democrats got schlonged in 2014, they had to know that it would infringe on their ability to get hard to get their preferred choice onto the court. That election had consequences

We the people elected Obama to make Supreme Court selections

and he made his selection.

Which used to be good enough in filling a Supreme Court vacancy

Now it is whole new ballgame ....it is now about who gets to make the pick

Which used to be good enough in filling a Supreme Court vacancy

nope

always had to go thru the Senate.

Republicans have decided to take the selection of Supreme Court justices away from the president

Let them live with it

NO

the president makes the selection, as always, and the senate makes the decision to confirm them, or not.

The president cannot say, "This is the next Justice".

He can only say, "This is who I want to be the next Justice".

 

[Auld Phart]

Republicans have decided to take the selection of Supreme Court justices away from the president

Let them live with it

Au contraire, President Trump is announcing the new Supreme Court justice this evening.

From his tweets and other public statements, the choice will be a tremendous one.

No, he is announcing his preference.

The senate, as usual, will decide

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Good idea. Keep riling up our base until the midterms.

The electorate does not care about filling court seats

They proved that in 2016

Maybe not your electorate, but Trump will have the bully pulpit and I'm sure he will use it to tear Democrats a new asshole if his nominees are held up. The guy has a knack of being able to rile up our base as you have witnessed in the past.

Some bully pulpit with 42 percent approval

Dems played that card in 2016 and voters did not care that the court sat empty. What makes you think they will care in 2020?

People just didn't want to see a Commie Court. Your side is a huge threat to freedom in this country and more and more people are realizing it, especially since some in your party consider Cortez the new face of the DNC; an admitted Socialist.

The real difference is how each side vents their anger. When your people get upset, they have protests, riots, attacking patrons in a restaurant, attacking children eating a hamburger, and by the time elections come around, you vented.

With us, we hold our anger in like a wife who's husband totally forgot their anniversary. But we don't burn down businesses, attack police officers.......we let all our anger out when we go vote. A hurricane or tornado can't stop us because we're so pissed.

So again, if your Senators want to rile up our base, then all we can do is let them.

We have a court where conservatives support higher taxes on Americans and believe that no warrant is required for cellphone records. That is not a court that I want.

The SC rules based on the US Constitution. In the Constitution, Congress creates taxes, spending and laws. I don't know anywhere in the document that mentions cell phone records.

 

[Polishprince]

Republicans have decided to take the selection of Supreme Court justices away from the president

Let them live with it

Au contraire, President Trump is announcing the new Supreme Court justice this evening.

From his tweets and other public statements, the choice will be a tremendous one.

Trey Dowdy?

Probably not, but the pick is promised to be fabulous.

The libs really seem to be making a stink about this choice, even before its made. And Kennedy was a nominally conservative justice.

I wonder what they will be saying next year when octogenarians Ginsberg and Breyer leave the court, and Jeanine Pirro and Mark R Levin are nominated to take their seats?

 

[Polishprince]

Dems played that card in 2016 and voters did not care that the court sat empty. What makes you think they will care in 2020?

The court isn't going to sit empty, as the Kennedy seat will be confirmed by Labor Day. And next year, the two liberal stalwarts will decide to retire. Not to mention Justice Thomas, who is free to retire as well with a loyal American in the WH to nominate his successor.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Thing is the people already decided when the GOP hijacked the process under Obama. Like that act or not it put the direction of the court FIRMLY in the hands of the voter.
Voters chose and the left lost so why hold up more nominees when the people have already spoken?

And spare me the popular vote or Russia Russia Russia bullshit.

Actually, the people decided when they elected Obama.

Twice.

With over 50% of the vote.

Twice.

With an overwhelming majority in both the popular vote by the people, and the electoral college.

Twice.

Which will be irrelevant over the next 30 years anyway, as white conservatives become a total minority in America, and a multicultural majority of Liberals erases the current 242 years of conservatism permanently from the landscape.

Just imagine your legacy in the history books gramps.

You know what I hear when you leftists start gassing away about "Eventually, history will show how right and brilliant and superior we are"? I hear, "I know what a piece of shit I sound like right now, but I can't stop myself". Just admit it and move on.

 

[Slyhunter]

What if he nominates a Black man? Would that make the Democrats racist if they filibuster him?

 

[Darkwind]

Thing is the people already decided when the GOP hijacked the process under Obama. Like that act or not it put the direction of the court FIRMLY in the hands of the voter.
Voters chose and the left lost so why hold up more nominees when the people have already spoken?

And spare me the popular vote or Russia Russia Russia bullshit.

I might agree with your argument, in principle. But Donald lost the popular vote. So the people didn't decide, the electoral college decided. I think the real truth in all of this is that our system of government needs a huge makeover, because our procedural processes have become diseased.

Been doing it this way since the country started. The only reason Democrats don't like the EC now is because they can't win. So instead of trying to win by the rules, now they want to change the rules so they can win. It's just like you leftists said when Kerry lost. He was ahead in the exit polling samples, so then you were crying we should change our election system to exit polling to determine the winner.

We can't keep changing the rules every time you people lose.

Yep.

Here is the thing.

They will have to advocate for ignoring the Constitution and the rule of law in order to be on the correct side of this.

As long as Trump has the legal right - and the Senate has the legal right - to nominate and consent, there isn't thing they can do about it except persuade a few Republicans to vote no.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Thing is the people already decided when the GOP hijacked the process under Obama. Like that act or not it put the direction of the court FIRMLY in the hands of the voter.
Voters chose and the left lost so why hold up more nominees when the people have already spoken?

And spare me the popular vote or Russia Russia Russia bullshit.

Actually, the people decided when they elected Obama.

Twice.

With over 50% of the vote.

Twice.

With an overwhelming majority in both the popular vote by the people, and the electoral college.

Twice.

Which will be irrelevant over the next 30 years anyway, as white conservatives become a total minority in America, and a multicultural majority of Liberals erases the current 242 years of conservatism permanently from the landscape.

Just imagine your legacy in the history books gramps.

You're on the right side of history, eh comrade?

History's written by the winners, so he might want to spend less time posturing about how EVENTUALLY, he'll be right, and more time convincing people RIGHT NOW that he's right.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Been doing it this way since the country started. The only reason Democrats don't like the EC now is because they can't win.

Pay attention, you dumbass. My statements have nothing to do with whether the electoral college system is an appropriate mechanism for choosing the President. The question is whether the election reflects the People's choice for Supreme Court nominations.

Well Dumbass, the people chose Trump as our President so yes, they chose his nominations as well.

The people chose Obama in 2012 by an overwhelming majority vote. Republicans ignored their vote

Perhaps, but with the preponderance of Congress and Senate, it seems that his support was dwindling and buyers remorse set in by 2016. With Trump we continued that success so people's minds haven't changed much.

Basically people started turning against him because of Commie Care. All lies from saving $2,500 a year to better coverage for cheaper prices. If the results of Commie Care were known before 2012, Mickey Mouse could have beaten him.

That is why voters trust Democrats more than Republicans on healthcare. Voters want Obamacare fixed not repealed.

If they wanted that, they would have voted a majority House and a majority Senate. But they did just the opposite. Obviously they didn't want Commie Care in any form.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Thing is the people already decided when the GOP hijacked the process under Obama. Like that act or not it put the direction of the court FIRMLY in the hands of the voter.
Voters chose and the left lost so why hold up more nominees when the people have already spoken?

And spare me the popular vote or Russia Russia Russia bullshit.

I might agree with your argument, in principle. But Donald lost the popular vote. So the people didn't decide, the electoral college decided. I think the real truth in all of this is that our system of government needs a huge makeover, because our procedural processes have become diseased.

Been doing it this way since the country started. The only reason Democrats don't like the EC now is because they can't win. So instead of trying to win by the rules, now they want to change the rules so they can win. It's just like you leftists said when Kerry lost. He was ahead in the exit polling samples, so then you were crying we should change our election system to exit polling to determine the winner.

We can't keep changing the rules every time you people lose.

Yep.

Here is the thing.

They will have to advocate for ignoring the Constitution and the rule of law in order to be on the correct side of this.

As long as Trump has the legal right - and the Senate has the legal right - to nominate and consent, there isn't thing they can do about it except persuade a few Republicans to vote no.

And that's why it was so important that Hillary isn't picking our judges today. Lord knows what could have happened with more liberal judges if the left took the popular vote to the Supreme Court.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What if he nominates a Black man? Would that make the Democrats racist if they filibuster him?

Not at all because black conservatives are nothing more than Uncle Tom's to the left. Look at how they treated Thomas after he was nominated.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What about the next candidate and the one after that?

Wouldn't have had time for a next one and a next one. The Republicans would have dragged it out as long as possible before rejecting him.

But the point is, what happened a few years ago is just an excuse for the way Democrats are behaving today. If they did hear any judges, your people would be doing the exact same thing today, and you would be here defending them stating that the Republicans didn't vote up on any of DumBama's nominations.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Dems played that card in 2016 and voters did not care that the court sat empty. What makes you think they will care in 2020?

The court isn't going to sit empty, as the Kennedy seat will be confirmed by Labor Day. And next year, the two liberal stalwarts will decide to retire. Not to mention Justice Thomas, who is free to retire as well with a loyal American in the WH to nominate his successor.

None of the liberals on the court are ever going to retire while there's a Republican President, so you need to get over that dream. They might die, but prying the gavel from their cold dead hands is the only way it's gonna happen.

And I see no particular reason Thomas should retire any time soon.

 

[rightwinger]

We the people elected Obama to make Supreme Court selections

and he made his selection.

Which used to be good enough in filling a Supreme Court vacancy

Now it is whole new ballgame ....it is now about who gets to make the pick

Which used to be good enough in filling a Supreme Court vacancy

nope

always had to go thru the Senate.

Republicans have decided to take the selection of Supreme Court justices away from the president

Let them live with it

NO

the president makes the selection, as always, and the senate makes the decision to confirm them, or not.

The president cannot say, "This is the next Justice".

He can only say, "This is who I want to be the next Justice".

Not anymore

Rule now is you can only appoint justices if you have the Senate in your party

 

[ptbw forever]

Thing is the people already decided when the GOP hijacked the process under Obama. Like that act or not it put the direction of the court FIRMLY in the hands of the voter.
Voters chose and the left lost so why hold up more nominees when the people have already spoken?

And spare me the popular vote or Russia Russia Russia bullshit.

Actually, the people decided when they elected Obama.

Twice.

With over 50% of the vote.

Twice.

With an overwhelming majority in both the popular vote by the people, and the electoral college.

Twice.

Which will be irrelevant over the next 30 years anyway, as white conservatives become a total minority in America, and a multicultural majority of Liberals erases the current 242 years of conservatism permanently from the landscape.

Just imagine your legacy in the history books gramps.

You're on the right side of history, eh comrade?

History's written by the winners, so he might want to spend less time posturing about how EVENTUALLY, he'll be right, and more time convincing people RIGHT NOW that he's right.

He isn’t right.