Democrats have controlled Hawaii almost exclusively.....

[2aguy]

Will we see a major turn in the political orientation of Hawaii? It has been under the sole control of the democrat party, except for a 4 year period (2002-2006) with one republican governor, since 1962......

With the democrat party priority of equity in water use, rather than prioritizing fire protection, and their spending money on green initiatives instead of maintaining a safe environment around power wires......will the Hawaiians decide to change control of their island state?

With joe biden comparing a kitchen fire to the vast destruction and death caused by the incompetence of the democrat party.....and he fell asleep in the middle of the memorial......will they change parties?

Likely not......

 

[jotathought]

Joe .. always trying to "one-up" the conversation and relate with scenarios we often see are false and lies. I'm so happy that Democrats continue to demonstrate that the life of children is meaningless and that the use of water should be revered .. instead of used.

 

[Donald H]

Will we see a major turn in the political orientation of Hawaii? It has been under the sole control of the democrat party, except for a 4 year period (2002-2006) with one republican governor, since 1962......

With the democrat party priority of equity in water use, rather than prioritizing fire protection, and their spending money on green initiatives instead of maintaining a safe environment around power wires......will the Hawaiians decide to change control of their island state?

With joe biden comparing a kitchen fire to the vast destruction and death caused by the incompetence of the democrat party.....and he fell asleep in the middle of the memorial......will they change parties?

Likely not......

Likely not, but why not?

Socially responsible measures being taken to prevent fires are no more acceptable to the R party.

It's not the American way. It's not the capitalist way. No politician can spend money on such a cause and survive. Totally new attitudes must be accepted.

Greedy capitalism will never be challenged by the political right. Even Canada's government must find ways to move left and more fully accept AGW is upon us.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Hawaii is a super expensive place to live.
The houses there look like an LA ghetto.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Death and destruction is guaranteed wherever leftism takes hold. Just look at the border since Kid Drowning *Joes been in charge .

 

[jotathought]

Likely not, but why not?

Socially responsible measures being taken to prevent fires are no more acceptable to the R party.

It's not the American way. It's not the capitalist way. No politician can spend money on such a cause and survive. Totally new attitudes must be accepted.

Greedy capitalism will never be challenged by the political right. Even Canada's government must find ways to move left and more fully accept AGW is upon us.

LOL ..

How was this catastrophe started by global warming? Do the last 5 - 10 years of piss poor planning with a known issue have nothing to do with it?

 

[Donald H]

LOL ..

How was this catastrophe started by global warming? Do the last 5 - 10 years of piss poor planning with a known issue have nothing to do with it?

The lack of planning used to be acceptable but now the issue has been raised on whether that can remain as policy.

Are you trying to say that no changes need be made to address the elevated risk due to AGW?

You need to first state your position on that and then hope that I disagree.

 

[jotathought]

The lack of planning used to be acceptable but now the issue has been raised on whether that can remain as policy.

Are you trying to say that no changes need be made to address the elevated risk due to AGW?

You need to first state your position on that and then hope that I disagree.

What risk? AGW has only been a conversation of concept. Be specific.

What risk, outside of the electrical company not addressing known concerns to produce sparks / ignition sources ... were there?

 

[Lakhota]

Will we see a major turn in the political orientation of Hawaii? It has been under the sole control of the democrat party, except for a 4 year period (2002-2006) with one republican governor, since 1962......

With the democrat party priority of equity in water use, rather than prioritizing fire protection, and their spending money on green initiatives instead of maintaining a safe environment around power wires......will the Hawaiians decide to change control of their island state?

With joe biden comparing a kitchen fire to the vast destruction and death caused by the incompetence of the democrat party.....and he fell asleep in the middle of the memorial......will they change parties?

Likely not......

 

[Donald H]

What risk? AGW has only been a conversation of concept. Be specific.

What risk, outside of the electrical company not addressing known concerns to produce sparks / ignition sources ... were there?

So you think that the risk of fire under power lines should be dealt with now. I can agree with that if it refers to Canada's power lines. It already is dealt with.

 

[Donald H]

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Neither political persuasion is guilt free.

China has a new way that takes into account social responsibility by government. The American way shirks that off.

 

[BluesLegend]

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I was about to say Dems are going to blame it all on Republicans...then this ^^^ is posted.

 

[hadit]

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If you're going to meme, at least make sure there's some truth in it. Democrats have controlled Hawaii for decades. They're in control, and they're to blame for government failures. It's really that simple, and trying to robotically bleat, "Republicans, Republicans" helps you not at all.

 

[BluesLegend]

So you think that the risk of fire under power lines should be dealt with now.

Democrats waste all the money on stupid shit while ignoring core infrastructure issues. Why spend on sewers and power distribution when you can spend on climate change, battery powered busses and throw billions at light/high speed rail.

 

[jotathought]

So you think that the risk of fire under power lines should be dealt with now. I can agree with that if it refers to Canada's power lines. It already is dealt with.

I agree that a known threat .. not addressing power distribution which WILL cause hazards .. is a problem. Hawaii identified this threat 4 - 5 years ago and ignored it, and decided to bring onboard a non-qualified diversity hire and a woke interior representative that decided water was more precious to revere than to use to save lives.

 

[konradv]

Neither political persuasion is guilt free.

China has a new way that takes into account social responsibility by government. The American way shirks that off.

The problem with China is that the majority of the shirking of social responsibility is done by the government. They have no moral superiority over the people, who they force accept whatever the party dictates.

 

[hadit]

Neither political persuasion is guilt free.

China has a new way that takes into account social responsibility by government. The American way shirks that off.

Who in their right mind would EVER give a government the power to determine a citizen's social responsibility score, EVER?

 

[Foxfyre]

I agree that a known threat .. not addressing power distribution which WILL cause hazards .. is a problem. Hawaii identified this threat 4 - 5 years ago and ignored it, and decided to bring onboard a non-qualified diversity hire and a woke interior representative that decided water was more precious to revere than to use to save lives.

The human errors that exacerbated and greatly increased the death toll in the Maui fires are acknowledged by the Hawaii Democrat officials. Failure to activate the warning system resulted in the resignation of the guy responsible for that. Failure to supply water to slow or douse the fire by many hours was another factor. Failure of the power company to deal with fire causing sparks etc. was glaringly apparent. Failure of the government to send immediate rescue teams to get the people out was glaringly apparent. It was the U.S. Coast Guard and not Hawaiian efforts that pulled people out of the ocean where they had sought to escape the fires.

But what is most of the talk about? Climate change as if periods of drought in ALL parts of the world don't happen, have always happened, and always increase the possibility and effects of wildfires. And the implication is that if there was no climate change, the human error would not have mattered much.

The leftist group think would be laughable if the consequences were not so tragic.

 

[jotathought]

The human errors that exacerbated and greatly increased the death toll in the Maui fires are acknowledged by the Hawaii Democrat officials. Failure to activate the warning system resulted in the resignation of the guy responsible for that. Failure to supply water to slow or douse the fire by many hours was another factor. Failure of the power company to deal with fire causing sparks etc. was glaringly apparent. Failure of the government to send immediate rescue teams to get the people out was glaringly apparent. It was the U.S. Coast Guard and not Hawaiian efforts that pulled people out of the ocean where they had sought to escape the fires.

But what is most of the talk about? Climate change as if periods of drought in ALL parts of the world don't happen, have always happened, and always increase the possibility and effects of wildfires. And the implication is that if there was no climate change, the human error would not have mattered much.

The leftist group think would be laughable if the consequences were not so tragic.

Maui fires were 100% human error ... liberal error due to hiring considerations, policy beliefs and execution of known mitigation strategies.

This is what is blended into .. "Climate change caused the fire ..." which is bullshit.

 

[2aguy]

Neither political persuasion is guilt free.

China has a new way that takes into account social responsibility by government. The American way shirks that off.

Yes....China has a great way.....if you complain about them building more coal and nuclear power plants, they kill you.