United Airlines is going "equity" in hiring pilots. That means they are going on race and gender to hire before safety. This is why you get pushback from Deplorables including some of the Christians. Flying passenger planes is now going to be insane when this is implemented.Do you care if they are actually facts or not?I do not care who reports the facts.The New American - WikipediaNo reason?
“Anti-Christian Hate Group” SPLC Becoming Increasingly Discredited
The Southern Poverty Law Center, widely viewed as an anti-Christian hate group, has descended to new lows, earning criticism even from mainstream media. by Alex Newmanthenewamerican.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_N...ipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics']far-rightprint and digital magazine published twice a month by American Opinion Publishing Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of the John Birch Society (JBS), a far-right organization.[2][3][4][5][6] The magazine was created in 1985 from the merger of two JBS magazines: American Opinion and The Review of the News.
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Democrats Endorse Anti-Christian SPLC Report Branding Christians as biggots And Equating Them To Terrorists
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lennypartiv
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America needs a time machine now more than ever. I wish we could send all the atheist liberals back to the days of our Founding Fathers to be taught a lesson. We started off as a great nation. Our Founding Fathers did the right thing by making us a Christian nation.
Winston
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I read your quote line. I have to respond. You need some basic education on ethics. I would recommend Michael Sandel of Harvard University. He has a series called "Justice", it is free online. He gives an outstanding lecture, the last session started just a few days ago, half a million people signed up for the free course online. Social justice gives the wealthy and talented the bounty of their actions, but only to the extent that it helps the least among us. That is what taxes do. Because here is the deal, if you are a great business man, like say Donald Trump, which is a stretch but we will go with something you understand. Part of his success can be attributed to the good fortune that he lives in a society that values what he does. That has nothing to do with him, or his ability. So, for "social justice" he needs to pay for that good fortune by giving back to the least among us. Because lets be honest, were Donald Trump born into a hunter gatherer tribe somewhere in American Samoa, well his ass probably wouldn't be fairing too well. Except for the fact that that society believed in "social justice" and the powerful and successful hunters gave him some of their "rewards".
Winston
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Bull fawking shit. There was one minister in the first continental congress. Not a single one in the second. If anything, a big part of the American Revolution was a backlash against the first Great Awakening. Get you ass back in history class. The founders were, for the most part, Deists, look up what that means.America needs a time machine now more than ever. I wish we could send all the atheist liberals back to the days of our Founding Fathers to be taught a lesson. We started off as a great nation. Our Founding Fathers did the right thing by making us a Christian nation.
TheProgressivePatriot
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Where are you getting that shit from? Never mind. It is off topic trolling .Not getting sucked inUnited Airlines is going "equity" in hiring pilots. That means they are going on race and gender to hire before safety. This is why you get pushback from Deplorables including some of the Christians. Flying passenger planes is now going to be insane when this is implemented.Do you care if they are actually facts or not?I do not care who reports the facts.The New American - WikipediaNo reason?There is no reason for anyone to think that the SPLC is "anti-Christian." There are people who call themselves "Christians" and then disgrace this faith by spreading hate and fear and actually try to justify it by reference to the Christian faith, which they are trying to destroy. Right-wing politics and the teachings of Jesus do not mix. They are polar opposites.
“Anti-Christian Hate Group” SPLC Becoming Increasingly Discredited
The Southern Poverty Law Center, widely viewed as an anti-Christian hate group, has descended to new lows, earning criticism even from mainstream media. by Alex Newman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_N...ipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics']far-rightprint and digital magazine published twice a month by American Opinion Publishing Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of the John Birch Society (JBS), a far-right organization.[2][3][4][5][6] The magazine was created in 1985 from the merger of two JBS magazines: American Opinion and The Review of the News.
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Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0The New American (TNA) is a far-right print and digital magazine published twice a month by American Opinion Publishing Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of the John Birch Society (JBS), a far-right organization. The magazine was created in 1985 from the merger of two JBS magazines: American Opinion and The Review of the News.
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TheProgressivePatriot
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SWhat the fuck are you talking about? Read the Obergfell opinion and educate yourself. It is about discrimination PopsI'm still waiting for to to explain how a group dedicated to deny gays the ability to marry is not trying to control the lives of others and dictate how they live. Give it a shot pops.Kid? You have no fucking idea! Yes, you get to choose to live by fear and superstition and the beliefe in the sky fairy. I don't so leave me the fuck alone.Good fucking grief! Sin?? really?According to PJ Media, The SPLC " tars the reputations of law-abiding mainstream conservative and Christian organizations like the Family Research Council (FRC), Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), and ACT for America." Well, lets see what these organizations are about:
House and Senate Democrats endorsed the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) “Year in Hate” report that brands mainstream conservative and Christian nonprofits “hate groups” and plots them on a map with the Ku Klux Klan. The Democrats did not respond to longstanding criticisms of the SPLC regarding its racial discrimination and sexual harassment scandal or the fact that former SPLC employees have described the “hate” accusations as a “highly profitable scam.”
Family Research Council - Wikipedia
\FRC was formed in the United States in 1981 by James Dobson and incorporated in 1983.[6] In the late 1980s, FRC officially became a division of Dobson's main organization, Focus on the Family; however, after an administrative separation, FRC became an independent entity in 1992. Tony Perkins is its current president. It opposes and lobbies against: access to pornography, embryonic stem-cell research, abortion, divorce, and LGBT rights (such as anti-discrimination laws, same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, and LGBT adoption). FRC is affiliated with a 501(c)(4) lobbying PAC known as FRC Action.[7]
Sounds like a hate group to me. If this is "main stream Christianity, then I want no part of it.
And note the affiliation with Fuck Us On The Family:
10 Things You Should Know About Focus On The Family - HRC
WASHINGTON – Focus on the Family claims its mission is to help families thrive. Yet to anyone paying attention, it’s clear the organization is focused on one specific kind of family, and instead spends a lot of time, energy and money advocating against equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people and their families. In fact, the organization suggests that marriage equality will bring the destruction of civilization, and it has referred to the children of same-sex couples as “human guinea pigs
Read it and tell us how this is not HATE. Now lets look at the Alliance Defending Freedom.
Alliance Defending Freedom - Wikipedia
Alliance Defending Freedom(ADF, formerly Alliance Defense Fund) is an American conservative Christian nonprofit organization with the stated goal of advocating, training, and funding on the issues of "religious freedom, sanctity of life, and marriage and family".[5] ADF is headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona. It also has four branch offices located in Folsom, California; Washington, D.C.; Lawrenceville, Georgia; and New York.[6]
Because of its budget, caseload, and network of allied attorneys, ADF is seen as the most organized and influential Christian legal interest group in the country.[7] As of October 2018, ADF has argued nine cases before the Supreme Court and won all of them.[8][needs update]
The Southern Poverty Law Center designates the ADF as an anti-LGBTQ hate group.[9] The SPLC has also described the ADF as a "prominent Christian legal powerhouse," and criticized it for providing "advice to anti-gay bigots in Belize."[10]
Yes defending freedom. Defending the freedome of bigots to deny the freedome of others based on a warped definition of religious freedom.
Finally, there is ACT for America. It seems like thse so called mainstreme Christians that are being targeted as hate groups, do not just hate gays.
ACT! for America - Wikipedia
ACT for America - Wikipedia
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Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0ACT! for America, founded in 2007, is a U.S.-based anti-Muslim advocacy group dedicated to combating what it describes as "the threat of radical Islam" to the safety of Americans and to democracy.
Critics of the group, including the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Center for American Progress, describe it as a hate group. It has been called the U.S.'s largest anti-Muslim organization. Since 2017, the group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump.
Wikipedia · Text under CC-BY-SA license
To say that these groups represent mainstream Christians is moronic. What would Jesus do?
He'd let them continue in their sin as they've chosen to do and then they'd go to Hell as He warned them they would. See how easy that was? There is no hatred in the condemnation of sin.
Absolutely. Everyone gets to make their choices kid, don't cry about the consequences.
Be an ass and I'll call you out, pretty simple really. I'm not afraid of anything son. No need to be.
Tell me, do they have the Right to marry? Does a group , ANY group speak for every group?
Bob Blaylock
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I read your quote line. I have to respond. You need some basic education on ethics
That's rich—a
JustAGuy1
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SWhat the fuck are you talking about? Read the Obergfell opinion and educate yourself. It is about discrimination PopsI'm still waiting for to to explain how a group dedicated to deny gays the ability to marry is not trying to control the lives of others and dictate how they live. Give it a shot pops.Kid? You have no fucking idea! Yes, you get to choose to live by fear and superstition and the beliefe in the sky fairy. I don't so leave me the fuck alone.Good fucking grief! Sin?? really?According to PJ Media, The SPLC " tars the reputations of law-abiding mainstream conservative and Christian organizations like the Family Research Council (FRC), Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), and ACT for America." Well, lets see what these organizations are about:
House and Senate Democrats endorsed the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) “Year in Hate” report that brands mainstream conservative and Christian nonprofits “hate groups” and plots them on a map with the Ku Klux Klan. The Democrats did not respond to longstanding criticisms of the SPLC regarding its racial discrimination and sexual harassment scandal or the fact that former SPLC employees have described the “hate” accusations as a “highly profitable scam.”
Family Research Council - Wikipedia
\FRC was formed in the United States in 1981 by James Dobson and incorporated in 1983.[6] In the late 1980s, FRC officially became a division of Dobson's main organization, Focus on the Family; however, after an administrative separation, FRC became an independent entity in 1992. Tony Perkins is its current president. It opposes and lobbies against: access to pornography, embryonic stem-cell research, abortion, divorce, and LGBT rights (such as anti-discrimination laws, same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, and LGBT adoption). FRC is affiliated with a 501(c)(4) lobbying PAC known as FRC Action.[7]
Sounds like a hate group to me. If this is "main stream Christianity, then I want no part of it.
And note the affiliation with Fuck Us On The Family:
10 Things You Should Know About Focus On The Family - HRC
WASHINGTON – Focus on the Family claims its mission is to help families thrive. Yet to anyone paying attention, it’s clear the organization is focused on one specific kind of family, and instead spends a lot of time, energy and money advocating against equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people and their families. In fact, the organization suggests that marriage equality will bring the destruction of civilization, and it has referred to the children of same-sex couples as “human guinea pigs
Read it and tell us how this is not HATE. Now lets look at the Alliance Defending Freedom.
Alliance Defending Freedom - Wikipedia
Alliance Defending Freedom(ADF, formerly Alliance Defense Fund) is an American conservative Christian nonprofit organization with the stated goal of advocating, training, and funding on the issues of "religious freedom, sanctity of life, and marriage and family".[5] ADF is headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona. It also has four branch offices located in Folsom, California; Washington, D.C.; Lawrenceville, Georgia; and New York.[6]
Because of its budget, caseload, and network of allied attorneys, ADF is seen as the most organized and influential Christian legal interest group in the country.[7] As of October 2018, ADF has argued nine cases before the Supreme Court and won all of them.[8][needs update]
The Southern Poverty Law Center designates the ADF as an anti-LGBTQ hate group.[9] The SPLC has also described the ADF as a "prominent Christian legal powerhouse," and criticized it for providing "advice to anti-gay bigots in Belize."[10]
Yes defending freedom. Defending the freedome of bigots to deny the freedome of others based on a warped definition of religious freedom.
Finally, there is ACT for America. It seems like thse so called mainstreme Christians that are being targeted as hate groups, do not just hate gays.
ACT! for America - Wikipedia
ACT for America - Wikipedia
- Overview
- Activities and views
- Membership
Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0ACT! for America, founded in 2007, is a U.S.-based anti-Muslim advocacy group dedicated to combating what it describes as "the threat of radical Islam" to the safety of Americans and to democracy.
Critics of the group, including the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Center for American Progress, describe it as a hate group. It has been called the U.S.'s largest anti-Muslim organization. Since 2017, the group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump.
Wikipedia · Text under CC-BY-SA license
To say that these groups represent mainstream Christians is moronic. What would Jesus do?
He'd let them continue in their sin as they've chosen to do and then they'd go to Hell as He warned them they would. See how easy that was? There is no hatred in the condemnation of sin.
Absolutely. Everyone gets to make their choices kid, don't cry about the consequences.
Be an ass and I'll call you out, pretty simple really. I'm not afraid of anything son. No need to be.
Tell me, do they have the Right to marry? Does a group , ANY group speak for every group?
Geeeezus asshole, do Gays have "right" to marry or not?
It sounds like religious persecution from the Democrats and I am sorry to see the founder's experiment of freedom and power to the common men and women who have loved this free nation. It didn't become free by allowing repulsive taxation sans representation. It took 238 years to become one trillion in debt. In 3 months, the Democrats are destroying any hope of balancing the budget for a thousand years.
House and Senate Democrats endorsed the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) “Year in Hate” report that brands mainstream conservative and Christian nonprofits “hate groups” and plots them on a map with the Ku Klux Klan. The Democrats did not respond to longstanding criticisms of the SPLC regarding its racial discrimination and sexual harassment scandal or the fact that former SPLC employees have described the “hate” accusations as a “highly profitable scam.”
If America falls into the 50 trillion tax hole with a new 2 trillion proposal every week since Biden took the oval office away from President Trump to spite conservatives the WH patronizes dozens of times per diem. God save us from the Democrat spendthrifts, because they are not listening to conservatives across the nation and take revenge on Georgia for writing new voting laws that will stop the pilfering of votes by the Democrat Party.
Lysistrata
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United Airlines is going "equity" in hiring pilots. That means they are going on race and gender to hire before safety.
Explain how this airline is putting race and gender before safety. You imply that these two physical characteristics necessarily involve a compromise in safety. What connection would there be between a person's skin color and/or reproductive organs and the ability to fly an aircraft safely?
John T. Ford
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The SPLC is a domestic terrorist group.
House and Senate Democrats endorsed the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) “Year in Hate” report that brands mainstream conservative and Christian nonprofits “hate groups” and plots them on a map with the Ku Klux Klan. The Democrats did not respond to longstanding criticisms of the SPLC regarding its racial discrimination and sexual harassment scandal or the fact that former SPLC employees have described the “hate” accusations as a “highly profitable scam.”
But ..... so is the Democrat Party.
Lysistrata
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There are so many different groups and flavors in the Christian faith that people really need to specify which "Christians" they are referring to. The term "Christian" is too generic to be useful in discussing these matters.
According to PJ Media, The SPLC " tars the reputations of law-abiding mainstream conservative and Christian organizations like the Family Research Council (FRC), Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), and ACT for America." Well, lets see what these organizations are about:
Family Research Council - Wikipedia
\FRC was formed in the United States in 1981 by James Dobson and incorporated in 1983.[6] In the late 1980s, FRC officially became a division of Dobson's main organization, Focus on the Family; however, after an administrative separation, FRC became an independent entity in 1992. Tony Perkins is its current president. It opposes and lobbies against: access to pornography, embryonic stem-cell research, abortion, divorce, and LGBT rights (such as anti-discrimination laws, same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, and LGBT adoption). FRC is affiliated with a 501(c)(4) lobbying PAC known as FRC Action.[7]
Sounds like a hate group to me. If this is "main stream Christianity, then I want no part of it.
Do you consider Islam to be a hate group?
No more than any other religion in the world, including Christianity.
What makes religions evil is how men interpret them and use them to twist people to their will
TheProgressivePatriot
Gold Member
Yes they do. Deal with it.SWhat the fuck are you talking about? Read the Obergfell opinion and educate yourself. It is about discrimination PopsI'm still waiting for to to explain how a group dedicated to deny gays the ability to marry is not trying to control the lives of others and dictate how they live. Give it a shot pops.Kid? You have no fucking idea! Yes, you get to choose to live by fear and superstition and the beliefe in the sky fairy. I don't so leave me the fuck alone.Good fucking grief! Sin?? really?According to PJ Media, The SPLC " tars the reputations of law-abiding mainstream conservative and Christian organizations like the Family Research Council (FRC), Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), and ACT for America." Well, lets see what these organizations are about:
House and Senate Democrats endorsed the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) “Year in Hate” report that brands mainstream conservative and Christian nonprofits “hate groups” and plots them on a map with the Ku Klux Klan. The Democrats did not respond to longstanding criticisms of the SPLC regarding its racial discrimination and sexual harassment scandal or the fact that former SPLC employees have described the “hate” accusations as a “highly profitable scam.”
Family Research Council - Wikipedia
\FRC was formed in the United States in 1981 by James Dobson and incorporated in 1983.[6] In the late 1980s, FRC officially became a division of Dobson's main organization, Focus on the Family; however, after an administrative separation, FRC became an independent entity in 1992. Tony Perkins is its current president. It opposes and lobbies against: access to pornography, embryonic stem-cell research, abortion, divorce, and LGBT rights (such as anti-discrimination laws, same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, and LGBT adoption). FRC is affiliated with a 501(c)(4) lobbying PAC known as FRC Action.[7]
Sounds like a hate group to me. If this is "main stream Christianity, then I want no part of it.
And note the affiliation with Fuck Us On The Family:
10 Things You Should Know About Focus On The Family - HRC
WASHINGTON – Focus on the Family claims its mission is to help families thrive. Yet to anyone paying attention, it’s clear the organization is focused on one specific kind of family, and instead spends a lot of time, energy and money advocating against equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people and their families. In fact, the organization suggests that marriage equality will bring the destruction of civilization, and it has referred to the children of same-sex couples as “human guinea pigs
Read it and tell us how this is not HATE. Now lets look at the Alliance Defending Freedom.
Alliance Defending Freedom - Wikipedia
Alliance Defending Freedom(ADF, formerly Alliance Defense Fund) is an American conservative Christian nonprofit organization with the stated goal of advocating, training, and funding on the issues of "religious freedom, sanctity of life, and marriage and family".[5] ADF is headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona. It also has four branch offices located in Folsom, California; Washington, D.C.; Lawrenceville, Georgia; and New York.[6]
Because of its budget, caseload, and network of allied attorneys, ADF is seen as the most organized and influential Christian legal interest group in the country.[7] As of October 2018, ADF has argued nine cases before the Supreme Court and won all of them.[8][needs update]
The Southern Poverty Law Center designates the ADF as an anti-LGBTQ hate group.[9] The SPLC has also described the ADF as a "prominent Christian legal powerhouse," and criticized it for providing "advice to anti-gay bigots in Belize."[10]
Yes defending freedom. Defending the freedome of bigots to deny the freedome of others based on a warped definition of religious freedom.
Finally, there is ACT for America. It seems like thse so called mainstreme Christians that are being targeted as hate groups, do not just hate gays.
ACT! for America - Wikipedia
ACT for America - Wikipedia
- Overview
- Activities and views
- Membership
Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0ACT! for America, founded in 2007, is a U.S.-based anti-Muslim advocacy group dedicated to combating what it describes as "the threat of radical Islam" to the safety of Americans and to democracy.
Critics of the group, including the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Center for American Progress, describe it as a hate group. It has been called the U.S.'s largest anti-Muslim organization. Since 2017, the group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump.
Wikipedia · Text under CC-BY-SA license
To say that these groups represent mainstream Christians is moronic. What would Jesus do?
He'd let them continue in their sin as they've chosen to do and then they'd go to Hell as He warned them they would. See how easy that was? There is no hatred in the condemnation of sin.
Absolutely. Everyone gets to make their choices kid, don't cry about the consequences.
Be an ass and I'll call you out, pretty simple really. I'm not afraid of anything son. No need to be.
Tell me, do they have the Right to marry? Does a group , ANY group speak for every group?
Geeeezus asshole, do Gays have "right" to marry or not?
JustAGuy1
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Yes they do. Deal with it.SWhat the fuck are you talking about? Read the Obergfell opinion and educate yourself. It is about discrimination PopsI'm still waiting for to to explain how a group dedicated to deny gays the ability to marry is not trying to control the lives of others and dictate how they live. Give it a shot pops.Kid? You have no fucking idea! Yes, you get to choose to live by fear and superstition and the beliefe in the sky fairy. I don't so leave me the fuck alone.Good fucking grief! Sin?? really?According to PJ Media, The SPLC " tars the reputations of law-abiding mainstream conservative and Christian organizations like the Family Research Council (FRC), Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), and ACT for America." Well, lets see what these organizations are about:
House and Senate Democrats endorsed the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) “Year in Hate” report that brands mainstream conservative and Christian nonprofits “hate groups” and plots them on a map with the Ku Klux Klan. The Democrats did not respond to longstanding criticisms of the SPLC regarding its racial discrimination and sexual harassment scandal or the fact that former SPLC employees have described the “hate” accusations as a “highly profitable scam.”
Family Research Council - Wikipedia
\FRC was formed in the United States in 1981 by James Dobson and incorporated in 1983.[6] In the late 1980s, FRC officially became a division of Dobson's main organization, Focus on the Family; however, after an administrative separation, FRC became an independent entity in 1992. Tony Perkins is its current president. It opposes and lobbies against: access to pornography, embryonic stem-cell research, abortion, divorce, and LGBT rights (such as anti-discrimination laws, same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, and LGBT adoption). FRC is affiliated with a 501(c)(4) lobbying PAC known as FRC Action.[7]
Sounds like a hate group to me. If this is "main stream Christianity, then I want no part of it.
And note the affiliation with Fuck Us On The Family:
10 Things You Should Know About Focus On The Family - HRC
WASHINGTON – Focus on the Family claims its mission is to help families thrive. Yet to anyone paying attention, it’s clear the organization is focused on one specific kind of family, and instead spends a lot of time, energy and money advocating against equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people and their families. In fact, the organization suggests that marriage equality will bring the destruction of civilization, and it has referred to the children of same-sex couples as “human guinea pigs
Read it and tell us how this is not HATE. Now lets look at the Alliance Defending Freedom.
Alliance Defending Freedom - Wikipedia
Alliance Defending Freedom(ADF, formerly Alliance Defense Fund) is an American conservative Christian nonprofit organization with the stated goal of advocating, training, and funding on the issues of "religious freedom, sanctity of life, and marriage and family".[5] ADF is headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona. It also has four branch offices located in Folsom, California; Washington, D.C.; Lawrenceville, Georgia; and New York.[6]
Because of its budget, caseload, and network of allied attorneys, ADF is seen as the most organized and influential Christian legal interest group in the country.[7] As of October 2018, ADF has argued nine cases before the Supreme Court and won all of them.[8][needs update]
The Southern Poverty Law Center designates the ADF as an anti-LGBTQ hate group.[9] The SPLC has also described the ADF as a "prominent Christian legal powerhouse," and criticized it for providing "advice to anti-gay bigots in Belize."[10]
Yes defending freedom. Defending the freedome of bigots to deny the freedome of others based on a warped definition of religious freedom.
Finally, there is ACT for America. It seems like thse so called mainstreme Christians that are being targeted as hate groups, do not just hate gays.
ACT! for America - Wikipedia
ACT for America - Wikipedia
- Overview
- Activities and views
- Membership
Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0ACT! for America, founded in 2007, is a U.S.-based anti-Muslim advocacy group dedicated to combating what it describes as "the threat of radical Islam" to the safety of Americans and to democracy.
Critics of the group, including the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Center for American Progress, describe it as a hate group. It has been called the U.S.'s largest anti-Muslim organization. Since 2017, the group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump.
Wikipedia · Text under CC-BY-SA license
To say that these groups represent mainstream Christians is moronic. What would Jesus do?
He'd let them continue in their sin as they've chosen to do and then they'd go to Hell as He warned them they would. See how easy that was? There is no hatred in the condemnation of sin.
Absolutely. Everyone gets to make their choices kid, don't cry about the consequences.
Be an ass and I'll call you out, pretty simple really. I'm not afraid of anything son. No need to be.
Tell me, do they have the Right to marry? Does a group , ANY group speak for every group?
Geeeezus asshole, do Gays have "right" to marry or not?
That was my point son, nobody is denying them anything.
TheProgressivePatriot
Gold Member
I know that was your point Pops! My point was and still is, that marriage equality was a long and hard fought battle and there are still people, still organizations (those that I mentioned and others) out there that are trying to take back that and other rights, and are trying to block further gains for LGBT people. Is it remotely possible that you are so stupid, and ill informed that you do not know that? Or are you just so dishonest that you pretend to not know? By the way pops, I am 73 years old and have been around the block a few times and know what I know. What's yoiur sorry story?Yes they do. Deal with it.SWhat the fuck are you talking about? Read the Obergfell opinion and educate yourself. It is about discrimination PopsI'm still waiting for to to explain how a group dedicated to deny gays the ability to marry is not trying to control the lives of others and dictate how they live. Give it a shot pops.Kid? You have no fucking idea! Yes, you get to choose to live by fear and superstition and the beliefe in the sky fairy. I don't so leave me the fuck alone.Good fucking grief! Sin?? really?According to PJ Media, The SPLC " tars the reputations of law-abiding mainstream conservative and Christian organizations like the Family Research Council (FRC), Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), and ACT for America." Well, lets see what these organizations are about:
House and Senate Democrats endorsed the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) “Year in Hate” report that brands mainstream conservative and Christian nonprofits “hate groups” and plots them on a map with the Ku Klux Klan. The Democrats did not respond to longstanding criticisms of the SPLC regarding its racial discrimination and sexual harassment scandal or the fact that former SPLC employees have described the “hate” accusations as a “highly profitable scam.”
Family Research Council - Wikipedia
\FRC was formed in the United States in 1981 by James Dobson and incorporated in 1983.[6] In the late 1980s, FRC officially became a division of Dobson's main organization, Focus on the Family; however, after an administrative separation, FRC became an independent entity in 1992. Tony Perkins is its current president. It opposes and lobbies against: access to pornography, embryonic stem-cell research, abortion, divorce, and LGBT rights (such as anti-discrimination laws, same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, and LGBT adoption). FRC is affiliated with a 501(c)(4) lobbying PAC known as FRC Action.[7]
Sounds like a hate group to me. If this is "main stream Christianity, then I want no part of it.
And note the affiliation with Fuck Us On The Family:
10 Things You Should Know About Focus On The Family - HRC
WASHINGTON – Focus on the Family claims its mission is to help families thrive. Yet to anyone paying attention, it’s clear the organization is focused on one specific kind of family, and instead spends a lot of time, energy and money advocating against equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people and their families. In fact, the organization suggests that marriage equality will bring the destruction of civilization, and it has referred to the children of same-sex couples as “human guinea pigs
Read it and tell us how this is not HATE. Now lets look at the Alliance Defending Freedom.
Alliance Defending Freedom - Wikipedia
Alliance Defending Freedom(ADF, formerly Alliance Defense Fund) is an American conservative Christian nonprofit organization with the stated goal of advocating, training, and funding on the issues of "religious freedom, sanctity of life, and marriage and family".[5] ADF is headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona. It also has four branch offices located in Folsom, California; Washington, D.C.; Lawrenceville, Georgia; and New York.[6]
Because of its budget, caseload, and network of allied attorneys, ADF is seen as the most organized and influential Christian legal interest group in the country.[7] As of October 2018, ADF has argued nine cases before the Supreme Court and won all of them.[8][needs update]
The Southern Poverty Law Center designates the ADF as an anti-LGBTQ hate group.[9] The SPLC has also described the ADF as a "prominent Christian legal powerhouse," and criticized it for providing "advice to anti-gay bigots in Belize."[10]
Yes defending freedom. Defending the freedome of bigots to deny the freedome of others based on a warped definition of religious freedom.
Finally, there is ACT for America. It seems like thse so called mainstreme Christians that are being targeted as hate groups, do not just hate gays.
ACT! for America - Wikipedia
ACT for America - Wikipedia
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Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0ACT! for America, founded in 2007, is a U.S.-based anti-Muslim advocacy group dedicated to combating what it describes as "the threat of radical Islam" to the safety of Americans and to democracy.
Critics of the group, including the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Center for American Progress, describe it as a hate group. It has been called the U.S.'s largest anti-Muslim organization. Since 2017, the group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump.
Wikipedia · Text under CC-BY-SA license
To say that these groups represent mainstream Christians is moronic. What would Jesus do?
He'd let them continue in their sin as they've chosen to do and then they'd go to Hell as He warned them they would. See how easy that was? There is no hatred in the condemnation of sin.
Absolutely. Everyone gets to make their choices kid, don't cry about the consequences.
Be an ass and I'll call you out, pretty simple really. I'm not afraid of anything son. No need to be.
Tell me, do they have the Right to marry? Does a group , ANY group speak for every group?
Geeeezus asshole, do Gays have "right" to marry or not?
That was my point son, nobody is denying them anything.
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I know that was your point Pops! My point was and still is, that marriage equality was a long and hard fought battle and there are still people, still organizations (those that I mentioned and others) out there that are trying to take back that and other rights, and are trying to block further gains for LGBT people. Is it remotely possible that you are so stupid, and ill informed that you do not know that? Or are you just so dishonest that you pretend to not know? By the way pops, I am 73 years old and have been around the block a few times and know what I know. What's yoiur sorry story?Yes they do. Deal with it.SWhat the fuck are you talking about? Read the Obergfell opinion and educate yourself. It is about discrimination PopsI'm still waiting for to to explain how a group dedicated to deny gays the ability to marry is not trying to control the lives of others and dictate how they live. Give it a shot pops.Kid? You have no fucking idea! Yes, you get to choose to live by fear and superstition and the beliefe in the sky fairy. I don't so leave me the fuck alone.Good fucking grief! Sin?? really?According to PJ Media, The SPLC " tars the reputations of law-abiding mainstream conservative and Christian organizations like the Family Research Council (FRC), Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), and ACT for America." Well, lets see what these organizations are about:
House and Senate Democrats endorsed the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) “Year in Hate” report that brands mainstream conservative and Christian nonprofits “hate groups” and plots them on a map with the Ku Klux Klan. The Democrats did not respond to longstanding criticisms of the SPLC regarding its racial discrimination and sexual harassment scandal or the fact that former SPLC employees have described the “hate” accusations as a “highly profitable scam.”
Family Research Council - Wikipedia
\FRC was formed in the United States in 1981 by James Dobson and incorporated in 1983.[6] In the late 1980s, FRC officially became a division of Dobson's main organization, Focus on the Family; however, after an administrative separation, FRC became an independent entity in 1992. Tony Perkins is its current president. It opposes and lobbies against: access to pornography, embryonic stem-cell research, abortion, divorce, and LGBT rights (such as anti-discrimination laws, same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, and LGBT adoption). FRC is affiliated with a 501(c)(4) lobbying PAC known as FRC Action.[7]
Sounds like a hate group to me. If this is "main stream Christianity, then I want no part of it.
And note the affiliation with Fuck Us On The Family:
10 Things You Should Know About Focus On The Family - HRC
WASHINGTON – Focus on the Family claims its mission is to help families thrive. Yet to anyone paying attention, it’s clear the organization is focused on one specific kind of family, and instead spends a lot of time, energy and money advocating against equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people and their families. In fact, the organization suggests that marriage equality will bring the destruction of civilization, and it has referred to the children of same-sex couples as “human guinea pigs
Read it and tell us how this is not HATE. Now lets look at the Alliance Defending Freedom.
Alliance Defending Freedom - Wikipedia
Alliance Defending Freedom(ADF, formerly Alliance Defense Fund) is an American conservative Christian nonprofit organization with the stated goal of advocating, training, and funding on the issues of "religious freedom, sanctity of life, and marriage and family".[5] ADF is headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona. It also has four branch offices located in Folsom, California; Washington, D.C.; Lawrenceville, Georgia; and New York.[6]
Because of its budget, caseload, and network of allied attorneys, ADF is seen as the most organized and influential Christian legal interest group in the country.[7] As of October 2018, ADF has argued nine cases before the Supreme Court and won all of them.[8][needs update]
The Southern Poverty Law Center designates the ADF as an anti-LGBTQ hate group.[9] The SPLC has also described the ADF as a "prominent Christian legal powerhouse," and criticized it for providing "advice to anti-gay bigots in Belize."[10]
Yes defending freedom. Defending the freedome of bigots to deny the freedome of others based on a warped definition of religious freedom.
Finally, there is ACT for America. It seems like thse so called mainstreme Christians that are being targeted as hate groups, do not just hate gays.
ACT! for America - Wikipedia
ACT for America - Wikipedia
- Overview
- Activities and views
- Membership
Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0ACT! for America, founded in 2007, is a U.S.-based anti-Muslim advocacy group dedicated to combating what it describes as "the threat of radical Islam" to the safety of Americans and to democracy.
Critics of the group, including the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Center for American Progress, describe it as a hate group. It has been called the U.S.'s largest anti-Muslim organization. Since 2017, the group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump.
Wikipedia · Text under CC-BY-SA license
To say that these groups represent mainstream Christians is moronic. What would Jesus do?
He'd let them continue in their sin as they've chosen to do and then they'd go to Hell as He warned them they would. See how easy that was? There is no hatred in the condemnation of sin.
Absolutely. Everyone gets to make their choices kid, don't cry about the consequences.
Be an ass and I'll call you out, pretty simple really. I'm not afraid of anything son. No need to be.
Tell me, do they have the Right to marry? Does a group , ANY group speak for every group?
Geeeezus asshole, do Gays have "right" to marry or not?
That was my point son, nobody is denying them anything.
You're simply full of crap. They can marry, they can buy insurance, they can adopt they can do all of the things everyone else can do. The ONLY Organization that is publically trying to anything you claim is the Wstboro Baptist and NOBODY listens to them. LGBT folks have all the same Rights I do. My story? I detest bigoted liars like you, it's not equality you want, it's superiority . The Christian Church at large is NOT trying to take anything from, you are simply lying.
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I'm lying? What a fucking load of horseshit. Get o fucking education and pull your head out of your ass. There was a case before SCOTUS as recently as late last year that attempted to overturn Obergfell. It failed but it will not be the last attempt. There is no federal protection for gays against discrimination in employment, housing, public accomodation and financial transactions. Many states do not provide those protections either. And it is radical Christian groups who are largely responsible for holding up progress in these areas. You are either a shameless liar, or really, really stupid.I know that was your point Pops! My point was and still is, that marriage equality was a long and hard fought battle and there are still people, still organizations (those that I mentioned and others) out there that are trying to take back that and other rights, and are trying to block further gains for LGBT people. Is it remotely possible that you are so stupid, and ill informed that you do not know that? Or are you just so dishonest that you pretend to not know? By the way pops, I am 73 years old and have been around the block a few times and know what I know. What's yoiur sorry story?Yes they do. Deal with it.SWhat the fuck are you talking about? Read the Obergfell opinion and educate yourself. It is about discrimination PopsI'm still waiting for to to explain how a group dedicated to deny gays the ability to marry is not trying to control the lives of others and dictate how they live. Give it a shot pops.Kid? You have no fucking idea! Yes, you get to choose to live by fear and superstition and the beliefe in the sky fairy. I don't so leave me the fuck alone.Good fucking grief! Sin?? really?According to PJ Media, The SPLC " tars the reputations of law-abiding mainstream conservative and Christian organizations like the Family Research Council (FRC), Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), and ACT for America." Well, lets see what these organizations are about:
House and Senate Democrats endorsed the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) “Year in Hate” report that brands mainstream conservative and Christian nonprofits “hate groups” and plots them on a map with the Ku Klux Klan. The Democrats did not respond to longstanding criticisms of the SPLC regarding its racial discrimination and sexual harassment scandal or the fact that former SPLC employees have described the “hate” accusations as a “highly profitable scam.”
Family Research Council - Wikipedia
\FRC was formed in the United States in 1981 by James Dobson and incorporated in 1983.[6] In the late 1980s, FRC officially became a division of Dobson's main organization, Focus on the Family; however, after an administrative separation, FRC became an independent entity in 1992. Tony Perkins is its current president. It opposes and lobbies against: access to pornography, embryonic stem-cell research, abortion, divorce, and LGBT rights (such as anti-discrimination laws, same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, and LGBT adoption). FRC is affiliated with a 501(c)(4) lobbying PAC known as FRC Action.[7]
Sounds like a hate group to me. If this is "main stream Christianity, then I want no part of it.
And note the affiliation with Fuck Us On The Family:
10 Things You Should Know About Focus On The Family - HRC
WASHINGTON – Focus on the Family claims its mission is to help families thrive. Yet to anyone paying attention, it’s clear the organization is focused on one specific kind of family, and instead spends a lot of time, energy and money advocating against equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people and their families. In fact, the organization suggests that marriage equality will bring the destruction of civilization, and it has referred to the children of same-sex couples as “human guinea pigs
Read it and tell us how this is not HATE. Now lets look at the Alliance Defending Freedom.
Alliance Defending Freedom - Wikipedia
Alliance Defending Freedom(ADF, formerly Alliance Defense Fund) is an American conservative Christian nonprofit organization with the stated goal of advocating, training, and funding on the issues of "religious freedom, sanctity of life, and marriage and family".[5] ADF is headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona. It also has four branch offices located in Folsom, California; Washington, D.C.; Lawrenceville, Georgia; and New York.[6]
Because of its budget, caseload, and network of allied attorneys, ADF is seen as the most organized and influential Christian legal interest group in the country.[7] As of October 2018, ADF has argued nine cases before the Supreme Court and won all of them.[8][needs update]
The Southern Poverty Law Center designates the ADF as an anti-LGBTQ hate group.[9] The SPLC has also described the ADF as a "prominent Christian legal powerhouse," and criticized it for providing "advice to anti-gay bigots in Belize."[10]
Yes defending freedom. Defending the freedome of bigots to deny the freedome of others based on a warped definition of religious freedom.
Finally, there is ACT for America. It seems like thse so called mainstreme Christians that are being targeted as hate groups, do not just hate gays.
ACT! for America - Wikipedia
ACT for America - Wikipedia
- Overview
- Activities and views
- Membership
Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0ACT! for America, founded in 2007, is a U.S.-based anti-Muslim advocacy group dedicated to combating what it describes as "the threat of radical Islam" to the safety of Americans and to democracy.
Critics of the group, including the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Center for American Progress, describe it as a hate group. It has been called the U.S.'s largest anti-Muslim organization. Since 2017, the group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump.
Wikipedia · Text under CC-BY-SA license
To say that these groups represent mainstream Christians is moronic. What would Jesus do?
He'd let them continue in their sin as they've chosen to do and then they'd go to Hell as He warned them they would. See how easy that was? There is no hatred in the condemnation of sin.
Absolutely. Everyone gets to make their choices kid, don't cry about the consequences.
Be an ass and I'll call you out, pretty simple really. I'm not afraid of anything son. No need to be.
Tell me, do they have the Right to marry? Does a group , ANY group speak for every group?
Geeeezus asshole, do Gays have "right" to marry or not?
That was my point son, nobody is denying them anything.
You're simply full of crap. They can marry, they can buy insurance, they can adopt they can do all of the things everyone else can do. The ONLY Organization that is publically trying to anything you claim is the Wstboro Baptist and NOBODY listens to them. LGBT folks have all the same Rights I do. My story? I detest bigoted liars like you, it's not equality you want, it's superiority . The Christian Church at large is NOT trying to take anything from, you are simply lying.
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I consider YOU to be a hate groupDo you consider Islam to be a hate group?
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