Democrat Switching Parties Today

[PatekPhilippe]

Alabama Representative Parker Griffith (D) is going to announce today that he is so unnerved by the health care bill that he's switching to the Republican party.

Good deal.

Parker Griffith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, I'm so sure that's the reason. He lives in the deep south, amid a sea of right wing fringers. He wants to get reelected. Duh...

and where is your leftwing loony tunes house?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

I don't like the idea that the Democratic Party is shedding Blue Dogs any more than I like the idea of the Republican Party shedding moderates. It seems BOTH parties are gravitating toward their more extreme elements. Too bad.

Maybe there is more and more room for a party that is fiscally conservative but socially and environmentally moderate. They would probably get MY vote more often than not.

If you support the healthScare bill you can't honestly consider yourself a fiscal conservative.... What fiscal conservative would support such a costly and bribe-laden POS?

For that matter what fiscal conservative would have supported bush? Face it, they are politicians and act based on what they believe is the most politcally expedient opportunity for their own careers. Republicans, fiscally conservatve and otherwise, pretty much blindly supported bush for years. Only now, after he is gone and a democrat is in charge do the conservatives start preaching once again about being fiscally responsible.

and stupid ass motherfuckers like you all of a sudden shut up about it....hmmmm...funny how that works isn't it ......you fraud.

 

[drsmith1072]

Switching to the Minority Party is very rare and could be an ominous sign of things to come for the Democrats.

jim jeffords ring a bell?? LOL

 

[drsmith1072]

Ah... back to your old democratic talking points, eh Polkie? Like a warm blanket in winter, huh? Nice to see that some things never change....lol

Personally, I'm always accountable for my actions...

So does living in the now mean you're going to stop bringing up Bush and hold Barry accoountable for his actions?

No talking points involved. The ruinous policy of deregulation and lack of oversight threw the economy into a tailspin. Instead of admitting you and your ilk made a mistake, you instead look for scapegoats to lash out at. Unemployment doubled while your party held the White House, the number of private sector jobs decreased, Dow down over twenty percent, Nasdaq down 45 percent, S&P 500 down 37 percent. And that's just your party's failures on the economy.

"Party of personal responsibility" is a leftist hack catch phrase... all the uber-libs love it...

Who are me and my ilk? I'm not a republican and I've always been against the spend-a-thon in gubmint... You're only against it when there are a lot of R's at the table... Now that D's are at the wheel it's a "let's spend, spend, spend" mentality for YOU and YOUR ILK....

Kusos for being so transparent...

So are you trying to claim that the right hasn't preached personal responsibility to others?? Seriously??

Your denial of that shows you to be just as transparent as you accuse others of being. Kudos to you too. Not a republican?? hardly, the content of your posts suggests otherwise but then you could be one of those former republicans who now claims to be independent all so they can openly criticize the spending of the current administration and claim that they did not support the spending of the last administration. There are a lot of those running around now but it's amuzing how few there were BEFORE obama became the president.

 

[jillian]

Griffith voted against the bill
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml

and so he did. i stand corrected.

i'm sure one of the most impoverished states in the country appreciated that greatly.

 

[Dr.House]

No talking points involved. The ruinous policy of deregulation and lack of oversight threw the economy into a tailspin. Instead of admitting you and your ilk made a mistake, you instead look for scapegoats to lash out at. Unemployment doubled while your party held the White House, the number of private sector jobs decreased, Dow down over twenty percent, Nasdaq down 45 percent, S&P 500 down 37 percent. And that's just your party's failures on the economy.

"Party of personal responsibility" is a leftist hack catch phrase... all the uber-libs love it...

Who are me and my ilk? I'm not a republican and I've always been against the spend-a-thon in gubmint... You're only against it when there are a lot of R's at the table... Now that D's are at the wheel it's a "let's spend, spend, spend" mentality for YOU and YOUR ILK....

Kusos for being so transparent...

So are you trying to claim that the right hasn't preached personal responsibility to others?? Seriously??

I'm claiming I haven't preached to others... Pay attention, numbnuts...

Your denial of that shows you to be just as transparent as you accuse others of being. Kudos to you too. Not a republican?? hardly, the content of your posts suggests otherwise but then you could be one of those former republicans who now claims to be independent all so they can openly criticize the spending of the current administration and claim that they did not support the spending of the last administration. There are a lot of those running around now but it's amuzing how few there were BEFORE obama became the president.

Don't confuse my decidedly anti-liberal-socialist-marxist stance with pro-squishy-republicans who are unable to find their copies of the Constitution...

I really don't care what you or the rest of you Barry Defenders think about me, but I am flattered that you care...

 

[nodoginnafight]

I don't get why he'd consider this an embarrassment to start with.
Griffith voted with the Republicans on cap-and-trade, on stimulus, on health care, and had already said he'd vote for Boehner for speaker at the start of the next session.

might be a pretty similar case to what happened up in New York where the conservatives complained that the Republican there wasn't Republican enough. And this Democrat wasn't Democrat enough (hard to be and get elected in Alabama just as I'm sure it's hard to be "Republican enough" and get elected in New York.)

Most of the Democratic strongholds in the deep south jumped to the Republicans over school desegregation and civil rights. A few pockets remain in heavily urban areas.

I wouldn't even go that far. There doesn't appear to have been much pressure (if any) placed on him to follow the party line. The reason he got the nod to start with is because he was able to self-finance. He didn't really have any deep involvement in politics previously (he lost a run for mayor of Huntsville before winning a state senate seat).

As for the makeup of his district, it's shocking that the Democrats have held on as long as they have. It's mostly rural (60 percent as of the last census) and even more overwhelmingly white (78 percent).

Well, I guess I could say kudos to those folks for seeing past party labels and electing someone who represents their views.

 

[Paulie]

Alabama Representative Parker Griffith (D) is going to announce today that he is so unnerved by the health care bill that he's switching to the Republican party.

Good deal.

Parker Griffith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, I'm so sure that's the reason. He lives in the deep south, amid a sea of right wing fringers. He wants to get reelected. Duh...

So even though he's already been elected as a D in that sea of right wing fringers, you're implying that there's ALREADY reason to think that district won't vote D again?

Why would that be? Aren't the Dems doing great these days?

 

[drsmith1072]

"Party of personal responsibility" is a leftist hack catch phrase... all the uber-libs love it...

Who are me and my ilk? I'm not a republican and I've always been against the spend-a-thon in gubmint... You're only against it when there are a lot of R's at the table... Now that D's are at the wheel it's a "let's spend, spend, spend" mentality for YOU and YOUR ILK....

Kusos for being so transparent...

You're not a Republican? That's one of the biggest whoppers I've ever read.

Nope... Registered Independent...

But this thread isn't about me...


You keep avoiding my question, though... Here it is again:

So does living in the now mean you're going to stop bringing up Bush and hold Barry accoountable for his actions?

Since the problems and issues of the now are directly related to bush and his actions don't you think he should accept some personal responsibility for where he left this country??

The history of a political district and the ramifications one administration has on the administration that follows it are two seperate and unique situations. I would suspect that even you could understand that.

 

[drsmith1072]

Nope... Registered Independent...

But this thread isn't about me...


You keep avoiding my question, though... Here it is again:

So does living in the now mean you're going to stop bringing up Bush and hold Barry accoountable for his actions?

I hold everyone accountable for their actions.

You're doing a poor job of it... Defending Barry seems to be your occupation...

That's funny because despite your claims of being an independent your occupation seems to be one of defending the republicans as you only lash out at the left.

 

[nodoginnafight]

I personally AM holding Obama responsible for the recovery - so far, so good.
Cautiously optimistic.

 

[Dr.House]

I hold everyone accountable for their actions.

You're doing a poor job of it... Defending Barry seems to be your occupation...

That's funny because despite your claims of being an independent your occupation seems to be one of defending the republicans as you only lash out at the left.

Which republican have I defended? Please state the name...

I don't deny lashing out at Barry and the Leftoids... Are you saying that you liberals are incompetent and need my help lashing out at the squishy republicans?

Again, I'm flattered...

 

[PatekPhilippe]

You're not a Republican? That's one of the biggest whoppers I've ever read.

Nope... Registered Independent...

But this thread isn't about me...


You keep avoiding my question, though... Here it is again:

So does living in the now mean you're going to stop bringing up Bush and hold Barry accoountable for his actions?

Since the problems and issues of the now are directly related to bush and his actions don't you think he should accept some personal responsibility for where he left this country??

The history of a political district and the ramifications one administration has on the administration that follows it are two seperate and unique situations. I would suspect that even you could understand that.

In other words...Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh is responsible for all of the country's ills and Obama can do no wrong...even if he mortgages the entire country to the fucking chinese!!!!

 

[Dr.House]

Nope... Registered Independent...

But this thread isn't about me...


You keep avoiding my question, though... Here it is again:

So does living in the now mean you're going to stop bringing up Bush and hold Barry accoountable for his actions?

Since the problems and issues of the now are directly related to bush and his actions don't you think he should accept some personal responsibility for where he left this country??

The history of a political district and the ramifications one administration has on the administration that follows it are two seperate and unique situations. I would suspect that even you could understand that.

In other words...Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh is responsible for all of the country's ills and Obama can do no wrong...even if he mortgages the entire country to the fucking chinese!!!!

History stopped for some libs on 1/20/2009.....

 

[drsmith1072]

If you support the healthScare bill you can't honestly consider yourself a fiscal conservative.... What fiscal conservative would support such a costly and bribe-laden POS?

For that matter what fiscal conservative would have supported bush? Face it, they are politicians and act based on what they believe is the most politcally expedient opportunity for their own careers. Republicans, fiscally conservatve and otherwise, pretty much blindly supported bush for years. Only now, after he is gone and a democrat is in charge do the conservatives start preaching once again about being fiscally responsible.

and stupid ass motherfuckers like you all of a sudden shut up about it....hmmmm...funny how that works isn't it ......you fraud.

I NEVER claimed to be a supporter of fiscal responsibility and I never attacked bush over it. I did, however, point out how the right always talked about being fiscally responsible until they had one of their own in the office and then hypocrites "like you all of a sudden shut up about it" and now that a dem is once again in charge we are hearing the right once again apply a standard to the left that they refused to hold their own to.

BTW PP I see you ran away from that other thread after I called you out for your BS and proved my claim to be true but then you running away after getting owned really isn't that surprising LOL

 

[drsmith1072]

"Party of personal responsibility" is a leftist hack catch phrase... all the uber-libs love it...

Who are me and my ilk? I'm not a republican and I've always been against the spend-a-thon in gubmint... You're only against it when there are a lot of R's at the table... Now that D's are at the wheel it's a "let's spend, spend, spend" mentality for YOU and YOUR ILK....

Kusos for being so transparent...

So are you trying to claim that the right hasn't preached personal responsibility to others?? Seriously??

I'm claiming I haven't preached to others... Pay attention, numbnuts...

Your denial of that shows you to be just as transparent as you accuse others of being. Kudos to you too. Not a republican?? hardly, the content of your posts suggests otherwise but then you could be one of those former republicans who now claims to be independent all so they can openly criticize the spending of the current administration and claim that they did not support the spending of the last administration. There are a lot of those running around now but it's amuzing how few there were BEFORE obama became the president.

Don't confuse my decidedly anti-liberal-socialist-marxist stance with pro-squishy-republicans who are unable to find their copies of the Constitution...

I really don't care what you or the rest of you Barry Defenders think about me, but I am flattered that you care...

Actually based on your post you are trying to spin it and claim that it's fiction created by the left but nice attempt to edit and spin on your part to CYA.

Furthermore, you do realize that your last line is a contradiction. How can you not care and yet still be flattered?? LOL
Once again you expose yourself as being totally and completely transparent. LOL

 

[drsmith1072]

You're doing a poor job of it... Defending Barry seems to be your occupation...

That's funny because despite your claims of being an independent your occupation seems to be one of defending the republicans as you only lash out at the left.

Which republican have I defended? Please state the name...

I don't deny lashing out at Barry and the Leftoids... Are you saying that you liberals are incompetent and need my help lashing out at the squishy republicans?

Again, I'm flattered...

Your entire argument to try and convince the other poster to drop the justified criticism of bush because his administration is in the past is in of itself a defense of bush.

No help needed just pointing out how you dishonestly claim to be independent and yet only seem to criticize the left and make excuses for the right. LOL

 

[drsmith1072]

Nope... Registered Independent...

But this thread isn't about me...


You keep avoiding my question, though... Here it is again:

So does living in the now mean you're going to stop bringing up Bush and hold Barry accoountable for his actions?

Since the problems and issues of the now are directly related to bush and his actions don't you think he should accept some personal responsibility for where he left this country??

The history of a political district and the ramifications one administration has on the administration that follows it are two seperate and unique situations. I would suspect that even you could understand that.

In other words...Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh is responsible for all of the country's ills and Obama can do no wrong...even if he mortgages the entire country to the fucking chinese!!!!

Really? Is that what you believe because I don't see where I said that in my post. Who mortgaged the country to the chinese? I seem to recall bush borrowing a ton of money form them so what are you whining about?

Oh and this coming from one of the "but clinton" brigade, who regularly tried to blame clinton fo everything negative that occured on w's watch, is hilarious.

 

[Dr.House]

Actually bsaed on your post you are trying to spin it and claim that it's fiction created by the left but nice attempt to edit and spin on your part to CYA.

You're free to interpret my posts as you wish, but when I explain my thoughts you just look astoundingly stupid to argue otherwise...

Furthermore, you do realize that your last line is a contradiction. How can you not care and yet still be flattered?? LOL

Are you serious? Do I have to explain that as well?

Once again you expose yourself as being totally and completely transparent. LOL

You're a legend in your own mind... Run back to Kos and tell them how you totally owned me...

 

[Political Junky]

My hearty good wishes to Rep Griffith

I hope the people of Alabama enjoy their new healthcare benefits.

Health benefits without his help, BTW.