Democrat Says Slavery Was “Right For The Time”

[Marxist]

Hitler did not say that, parrot..

Gregor Strasser said it.

Hitler had him murdered on the Night of the Long Knives, along with all the other left-leaning Nazis.

We've told him this, he refuses to listen and calls anyone who disagrees with him "dimocraps"

Edgetho believes the more you repeat something you want to believe, the truer it becomes.

Sounds like climate deniers, young earth creationists, those who spout the usual bullshit..

 

[g5000]

The idea slavery was on the way out prior to the Civil War is entirely false.

At the time of the Constitution's ratification, it was true that slavery was dying out. That is why ending the slave trade by 1808 was acceptable to the South as part of the compromises during the convention. See Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution.

But that was before the South's cotton industry took off. And that took off when the demand for cotton exponentially climbed in Britain with the advent of technological advances in textiles in that country. A technology the US later stole.

The demand for American cotton exploded at the beginning of the 19th century, and thus the need for slave labor exploded. And so when 1808 rolled around, and the Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves was enacted by Congress in 1807, the South refused to abide it.

And so the slave population rocketed upward from 700,000 in 1790 to 4 million by 1860. You can see in the link the explosion in the slave population was in the agricultural South, while it declined in the North.

This simple fact destroys the myth of the imminent extinction of slavery on the eve of the Civil War.

Cotton was king in the South well into the 1930s. Which is why the subjugation of blacks, regardless of their freedom from slavery, continued to that period. Cotton picking was "N***** work".

 

[g5000]

Alexis de Toqueville, Democracy in America, 1832:

Upon the left bank of the Ohio labor is confounded with the idea of slavery, while upon the right bank it is identifies with that of prosperity and improvement; on the one side it is degraded, on the other it is honored. On the former territory no white laborers can be found, for they would be afraid of assimilating themselves to the Negroes; all the work is done by slaves; on the latter no one is idle, for the white population extend their activity and intelligence to every kind of employment. Thus the men whose task it is to cultivate the rich soil of Kentucky are ignorant and apathetic, while those who are active and enlightened either do nothing or pass over into Ohio, where they may work without shame.

Tocqueville: Book I Chapter 18

Even after we abolished slavery, the South still kept blacks in bondage well into the 20th century.

 

[g5000]

Cotton exports were the primary US export from 1800 to 1930. You can see from the chart below that cotton was responsible for 57 percent of all US exports when the war broke out. You will not find any other export which had as big a footprint nor one which was the number one export for as long a period. Go ahead and try.

As I stated earlier, the slave population in the South was 650,000 at the time the Constitution was ratified. This is why the South was agreeable to the compromise in the Constitution which ordered the end of the importation of slaves by 1808.

However, between 1790 and 1808, the English and US textile industries exploded due to technological advances having nothing to do with the cotton gin. Everyone has heard of Eli Whitney, but few have heard of Samual Slater, "Father of the American Industrial revolution". This industrial advancement made textiles much cheaper, and thus greatly increased the demand for cotton. The demand for cotton drove the invention of the cotton gin, not the other way around.

The increased demand for cotton, in turn, required more slave labor.

So when the 1808 timeframe rolled around, the South began reneging on the Constitutional ban.

The slave population steadily and rapidly increased to the point that the slave population was 4 million in the South at the outbreak of the war.

Only a fool claims slavery was dying out.

 

[g5000]

NRA official backs checking buyers

One of the National Rifle Association's top officials said his group supports instant background checks of unlicensed dealers at gun shows.

"We've always supported instant background checks," said Wayne LaPierre, the NRA's executive vice president, who is scheduled to speak to Georgia Republicans on Saturday at the state GOP convention at Augusta-Richmond County Civic Center.

That was 1999.

 

[Kosh]

I am sure the far left drones of that time were all for slaves having "rights" as long as you did not take away their slaves..

 

[Edgetho]

Tocqueville: Book I Chapter 18

Even after we abolished slavery, the South still kept blacks in bondage well into the 20th century.

Yes, they did. Except YOU had nothing to do with it. If you even had relatives here at the time (doubtful) they were probably either pro-slavery or hiding in their basement somewhere.

I had several members of my family (some two or three times removed, but blood family nonetheless) fighting against the dimocrap slavers. One of whom was a famous General

The VERY, VERY dimocrap South kept Blacks in bondage through phony arrests and work houses.

I can still remember my Great Grandmother -- She wouldn't let a dimocrap in the house. Good thing, too. My Great Grandfather would have shot him. And no, I am NOT kidding.

dimocraps are the scum of the earth

period

 

[Skylar]

Cotton exports were the primary US export from 1800 to 1930. You can see from the chart below that cotton was responsible for 57 percent of all US exports when the war broke out. You will not find any other export which had as big a footprint nor one which was the number one export for as long a period. Go ahead and try.

As I stated earlier, the slave population in the South was 650,000 at the time the Constitution was ratified. This is why the South was agreeable to the compromise in the Constitution which ordered the end of the importation of slaves by 1808.

However, between 1790 and 1808, the English and US textile industries exploded due to technological advances having nothing to do with the cotton gin. Everyone has heard of Eli Whitney, but few have heard of Samual Slater, "Father of the American Industrial revolution". This industrial advancement made textiles much cheaper, and thus greatly increased the demand for cotton. The demand for cotton drove the invention of the cotton gin, not the other way around.

The increased demand for cotton, in turn, required more slave labor.

So when the 1808 timeframe rolled around, the South began reneging on the Constitutional ban.

The slave population steadily and rapidly increased to the point that the slave population was 4 million in the South at the outbreak of the war.

Only a fool claims slavery was dying out.

Yeah, far from indicating the end of slavery, the slave population demonstrates that slavery was actually on the rise. With the population increasing faster between 1830 to 1860 than from 1800 to 1830.

 

[boedicca]

I wouldn't say slavery was "right" for the time. It's hideous practice that was quite commonplace around the world during the referenced time frame.

Most humans throughout history have been either slaves or serfs. Western Civilization provided a philosophical framework and systems of government that quite literally enabled the chains to be broken.

Sadly, our Collectivist comrades are doing everything then can to put us all in chains.

 

[bodecea]

Tocqueville: Book I Chapter 18

Even after we abolished slavery, the South still kept blacks in bondage well into the 20th century.

Yes, they did. Except YOU had nothing to do with it. If you even had relatives here at the time (doubtful) they were probably either pro-slavery or hiding in their basement somewhere.

I had several members of my family (some two or three times removed, but blood family nonetheless) fighting against the dimocrap slavers. One of whom was a famous General

The VERY, VERY dimocrap South kept Blacks in bondage through phony arrests and work houses.

I can still remember my Great Grandmother -- She wouldn't let a dimocrap in the house. Good thing, too. My Great Grandfather would have shot him. And no, I am NOT kidding.

dimocraps are the scum of the earth

period

It's so much simpler to wrap your brain around a label "dimocrap" than actually think about what people stand for, isn't it?

 

[Skylar]

I wouldn't say slavery was "right" for the time.

Neither did the man the OP claims to be quoting.

 

[Flopper]

Talk about stepping in your own pile. All one has to do is read this article and it's obvious the gun grabbers don't have anything to stand on, every argument is blown out of the water

Democrat Senator Says Slavery Was “Right For The Time”

At a recent constituent coffee town hall, Oregon state Senator Chuck Riley took heat from pro gun folks who were upset with his vote for the “universal background check” bill. Riley attempted to defend this in numerous different ways, including referencing Supreme Court decisions. When one citizen asked him about the Supreme Court upholding slavery back in the 1800s, Riley said “They were right for the time”.

Democrat Senator Says Slavery Was Right For The Time - Progressives Today

Since it's only reported by conservative web sites, the quote is probably taken out of context.

 

[g5000]

Talk about stepping in your own pile. All one has to do is read this article and it's obvious the gun grabbers don't have anything to stand on, every argument is blown out of the water

Democrat Senator Says Slavery Was “Right For The Time”

At a recent constituent coffee town hall, Oregon state Senator Chuck Riley took heat from pro gun folks who were upset with his vote for the “universal background check” bill. Riley attempted to defend this in numerous different ways, including referencing Supreme Court decisions. When one citizen asked him about the Supreme Court upholding slavery back in the 1800s, Riley said “They were right for the time”.

Democrat Senator Says Slavery Was Right For The Time - Progressives Today

Since it's only reported by conservative web sites, the quote is probably taken out of context.

There is a video in the link. You can see the context just fine.

Some people opposed to background checks when buying a gun got into an argument with a state senator no one has ever heard of before. The senator said the Supreme Court is the final arbiter on what is or is not constitutional, and that the Supreme Court said background checks are constitutional. And so one of the pro-gun people decided to throw out a red herring and asked if the Supreme Court was right when they said slavery was legal.

The senator responded, "They were right for the time, until they changed it." The senator then admits that Supreme Court decision was wrong.

The logical fallacy here on the part of the pro-gun people is that a demonstration of when an entity was wrong in the past is not evidence they are wrong now.

 

[Pogo]

Talk about stepping in your own pile. All one has to do is read this article and it's obvious the gun grabbers don't have anything to stand on, every argument is blown out of the water

Democrat Senator Says Slavery Was “Right For The Time”

At a recent constituent coffee town hall, Oregon state Senator Chuck Riley took heat from pro gun folks who were upset with his vote for the “universal background check” bill. Riley attempted to defend this in numerous different ways, including referencing Supreme Court decisions. When one citizen asked him about the Supreme Court upholding slavery back in the 1800s, Riley said “They were right for the time”.

Democrat Senator Says Slavery Was Right For The Time - Progressives Today

Since it's only reported by conservative web sites, the quote is probably taken out of context.

There is a video in the link. You can see the context just fine.

Some people opposed to background checks when buying a gun got into an argument with a state senator no one has ever heard of before. The senator said the Supreme Court is the final arbiter on what is or is not constitutional, and that the Supreme Court said background checks are constitutional. And so one of the pro-gun people decided to throw out a red herring and asked if the Supreme Court was right when they said slavery was legal.

The senator responded, "They were right for the time, until they changed it." The senator then admits that Supreme Court decision was wrong.

The logical fallacy here on the part of the pro-gun people is that a demonstration of when an entity was wrong in the past is not evidence they are wrong now.

But ... but ... that makes the OP a lie.

On-Edge tells us it's "dimocraps" who lie. That makes the OP a "dimocrap", doesn't it?

 

[JFK_USA]

Probably out of context given its a conservative news website.

But at the time, there was no industrial revolution and these farmers had huge lands that need labor to till so that's how they justified it. However, the invention of the Cotton gin made the use of slavery irrelevant IMO and that ignited the Slavery debate to its boiling point. Dred Scott made it over-boil and go crazy.

Actually, slavery was on it's way out and the cotton gin saved it.

Bird Watcher How the Cotton Gin Saved the South and Slavery

And you don't suppose the industrial revolution would have created another justification for slavery?

Right, capitalism is itself a justification for slavery.

Think about it, the whole goal of capitalism is profit. Slavery gives rich people an opportunity to make the most money with little costs. High revenue minus low costs = Huge profits.

To suggest capitalism inherently ends slavery is without merit.

 

[paperview]

Talk about stepping in your own pile. All one has to do is read this article and it's obvious the gun grabbers don't have anything to stand on, every argument is blown out of the water

Democrat Senator Says Slavery Was “Right For The Time”

At a recent constituent coffee town hall, Oregon state Senator Chuck Riley took heat from pro gun folks who were upset with his vote for the “universal background check” bill. Riley attempted to defend this in numerous different ways, including referencing Supreme Court decisions. When one citizen asked him about the Supreme Court upholding slavery back in the 1800s, Riley said “They were right for the time”.

Democrat Senator Says Slavery Was Right For The Time - Progressives Today

Since it's only reported by conservative web sites, the quote is probably taken out of context.

There is a video in the link. You can see the context just fine.

Some people opposed to background checks when buying a gun got into an argument with a state senator no one has ever heard of before. The senator said the Supreme Court is the final arbiter on what is or is not constitutional, and that the Supreme Court said background checks are constitutional. And so one of the pro-gun people decided to throw out a red herring and asked if the Supreme Court was right when they said slavery was legal.

The senator responded, "They were right for the time, until they changed it." The senator then admits that Supreme Court decision was wrong.

The logical fallacy here on the part of the pro-gun people is that a demonstration of when an entity was wrong in the past is not evidence they are wrong now.

Thank you.

 

[kaz]

Talk about stepping in your own pile. All one has to do is read this article and it's obvious the gun grabbers don't have anything to stand on, every argument is blown out of the water

Democrat Senator Says Slavery Was “Right For The Time”

At a recent constituent coffee town hall, Oregon state Senator Chuck Riley took heat from pro gun folks who were upset with his vote for the “universal background check” bill. Riley attempted to defend this in numerous different ways, including referencing Supreme Court decisions. When one citizen asked him about the Supreme Court upholding slavery back in the 1800s, Riley said “They were right for the time”.

Democrat Senator Says Slavery Was Right For The Time - Progressives Today

I would not have used the word "right"...."typical" would have been better. So, he's not very bright in his choice of words. Would you agree?

No, life, liberty and property cannot be deprived without due process of law was already established in the Bill of Rights

 

[kaz]

Probably out of context given its a conservative news website.

But at the time, there was no industrial revolution and these farmers had huge lands that need labor to till so that's how they justified it. However, the invention of the Cotton gin made the use of slavery irrelevant IMO and that ignited the Slavery debate to its boiling point. Dred Scott made it over-boil and go crazy.

Actually, slavery was on it's way out and the cotton gin saved it.

Bird Watcher How the Cotton Gin Saved the South and Slavery

And you don't suppose the industrial revolution would have created another justification for slavery?

Right, capitalism is itself a justification for slavery.

Think about it, the whole goal of capitalism is profit. Slavery gives rich people an opportunity to make the most money with little costs. High revenue minus low costs = Huge profits.

To suggest capitalism inherently ends slavery is without merit.

You don't know what you are are talking about. Capitalism is economic freedom for all market participants. Consumers, suppliers, employers employees. The goal of suppliers is profit, but they are only one market player, the goal of capitalism is they all get to make their own choices. Capitalism is the solution to "greed," you want to get paid beyond your value, you make poor decisions and fail. Government is the instrument of greed, only they can use force to compel you to do things against your own interest