Delta4Embassy and Toro: Ebola is not as deadly as Diarrhea and Obesity and the Media is false hype

[Dot Com]

Relax, dots. Pretty much everybody despises you. It isn't just a toro thing.

I don't hold a grudge against you Dot. That would be like holding a grudge against a TeleTubby.

your never ending projection is duly noted exponentially ad nauseam and then some!

A SOCON, a canuck Establ conservative, and a Ravi clone: being attacked by you three is like being assaulted by a butterfly :yawn:

 

[Dot Com]

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[emilynghiem]

Just a head's up OP- Toro will hold it against you, that you're his better, until the end of time or he goes to st. Elsewhere.

Of course he's better. At being Toro.
Not asking him to change what he is,
but just to do the job right!

If you are going to bulldoze through bullcrap online
you can't be standing in it.

We need bulldozers like Toro, and like you when you find a target that needs hard hitting.

But we cannot go around bulldozing down each other off track,
especially when we're on the same team!

In football, you don't block, tackle or SACK your own quarterback!

I'm sorry, I don't mean any offense, but I barely remember who you are.

I'm the "universal inclusion" chick who believes in working with all people of
all parties and groups, religious political etc, to succeed effectively in their respective roles and elements.

So I generally drive everyone to the limit
with talk of mediation, conflict resolution, restorative justice, spiritual healing,
consensus building, cooperative economics, microlending, building campuses
and teaching hospitals for sustainable education and services that are locally owned and managed,
blah blah blah.

I may have confused you with someone else, I apologize.

I remember you from the thread on the misuse a homophone.
And you were having fun messing with people or the OP or that thread
but there was a real concern not to derail it by getting too off topic.

From your cartoon I thought you were the same type of
Hit and Run
poster, just stirring things up or slamming something down,
but not into interacting to talk it out point by point like I do, or overdo it.

Some people are like that, just heavy hitters and not
into working out the details.

So it's like a football team or orchestra,
where each person has a certain job to do or role to play.
And we help each other use our styles or skills to be effective
and get somewhere with it.

Sorry if I pegged you wrong.
I need to learn to be more like you, dot com and others
who just post and don't give flip how the other person processes it.

I tend to work with people "relatively" so it takes one-on-one
interaction and each person and process is unique to that interaction.

Like a unique line connecting two points.

most people want to apply a general rule to a whole group
and be done with it. But that always leaves out exceptions
or people who dissent and have a better way.

So I'd rather listen to those objections and find the better way
instead of slapping blanket rules, labels, or statements on people.

I'd rather interact and work it out where the people shape
and create the policies and solutions together, using all
their input where nobody is left out.

So all this blah blah blah
should be a good sample of how I post on here
that has good points to it, and a bad side, too,
when it gets to be too much for people. Sorry!

But you can see I'm the opposite of you and dot com.
I need to learn to do the
"WHAM BAM F U TOO!!!!"

and not try to make peace or reconcile with every issue....

 

[emilynghiem]

I don't hold a grudge against you Dot. That would be like holding a grudge against a TeleTubby.

How is Dot Com like a Tele Tubby, excuse me?

Is he gay and purple with a triangle for a head
and being protested by rightwing groups?

 

[Dot Com]

Just a head's up OP- Toro will hold it against you, that you're his better, until the end of time or he goes to st. Elsewhere.

Of course he's better. At being Toro.
Not asking him to change what he is,
but just to do the job right!

If you are going to bulldoze through bullcrap online
you can't be standing in it.

We need bulldozers like Toro, and like you when you find a target that needs hard hitting.

But we cannot go around bulldozing down each other off track,
especially when we're on the same team!

In football, you don't block, tackle or SACK your own quarterback!

I'm sorry, I don't mean any offense, but I barely remember who you are.

I'm the "universal inclusion" chick who believes in working with all people of
all parties and groups, religious political etc, to succeed effectively in their respective roles and elements.

So I generally drive everyone to the limit
with talk of mediation, conflict resolution, restorative justice, spiritual healing,
consensus building, cooperative economics, microlending, building campuses
and teaching hospitals for sustainable education and services that are locally owned and managed,
blah blah blah.

I may have confused you with someone else, I apologize.

I remember you from the thread on the misuse a homophone.
And you were having fun messing with people or the OP or that thread
but there was a real concern not to derail it by getting too off topic.

From your cartoon I thought you were the same type of
Hit and Run
poster, just stirring things up or slamming something down,
but not into interacting to talk it out point by point like I do, or overdo it.

Some people are like that, just heavy hitters and not
into working out the details.

So it's like a football team or orchestra,
where each person has a certain job to do or role to play.
And we help each other use our styles or skills to be effective
and get somewhere with it.

Sorry if I pegged you wrong.
I need to learn to be more like you, dot com and others
who just post and don't give flip how the other person processes it.

I tend to work with people "relatively" so it takes one-on-one
interaction and each person and process is unique to that interaction.

Like a unique line connecting two points.

most people want to apply a general rule to a whole group
and be done with it. But that always leaves out exceptions
or people who dissent and have a better way.

So I'd rather listen to those objections and find the better way
instead of slapping blanket rules, labels, or statements on people.

I'd rather interact and work it out where the people shape
and create the policies and solutions together, using all
their input where nobody is left out.

So all this blah blah blah
should be a good sample of how I post on here
that has good points to it, and a bad side, too,
when it gets to be too much for people. Sorry!

But you can see I'm the opposite of you and dot com.
I need to learn to do the
"WHAM BAM F U TOO!!!!"

and not try to make peace or reconcile with every issue....

you nailed Toro to the wall

 

[Toro]

I don't hold a grudge against you Dot. That would be like holding a grudge against a TeleTubby.

How is Dot Com like a Tele Tubby, excuse me?

Is he gay and purple with a triangle for a head
and being protested by rightwing groups?

He's like a TeleTubby because he's totally harmless and non-threatening. Also, like a My Little Pony character.

And TeleTubbies aren't gay!

FYI, I didn't read your long post. It was too long.

I started reading it and concluded that you might want to lighten up a little. I also concluded that from this whole thread.

But since it appears you've been here for awhile and I really can't remember anything you've posted, the probably means you're a nice person. At least, that's what I assume. That, or you've posted a lot in the cat lovers thread.

 

[Dot Com]

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[Toro]

Toro holds grudges because he gets pwned on the regular & it irks him. Just let him win whatever debate you're having. trust me. It isn't worth it.

See?

How can anyone get mad at that?

 

[Dot Com]

I just realized that his was in the Bull Ring Sorry emilynghiem

Carry on.

 

[emilynghiem]

Toro holds grudges because he gets pwned on the regular & it irks him. Just let him win whatever debate you're having. trust me. It isn't worth it.

See?

How can anyone get mad at that?

Dear Toro: I think you're right about Dot com
where there's no reason to react negatively and take things too seriously.
Like I did in the past when responding to Dot.

I'm glad we got a chance to connect and clear that out of the way.
May I still ask your help to use this thread to focus on the issue;
How to SEPARATE the false media hype
from the CYA denial and fix both by
promoting collaboration and awareness
NOT FEAR.

Thanks to you and Dot com for addressing things civilly on here.
I may still need your help to say things MEAN to Delta to get
a point across.

My real concern is Delta was so sure this issue was going to be abused
to build walls, he's missing all the work and opportunity being used
to tear walls down and to build more stable relations and facilities among
the places and people being hit by this.

So he's spreading more denial and misinformation instead of
promoting the outreach that would indeed solve problems and overcome the
walls and media garbage he Claimed he was against.

So I will post links to Delta and borrow from your sarcasm
to drive the point home. Playing nice only works so far.

I think this point needs to be punched.
Can you please take this and help me punch him in the face with it?

Dear Delta4Embassy:

1. LSU employee under quarantine after returning from Ebola training mission in Liberia NOLA.com

See above link where professionals in Biomedical Research and Training
are flying out to Africa to teach their police and responders how to prevent infection.

Can you show me a case of deadly diarrhea that REQUIRES biosafety hazard training
because could be caught
and requires biosafety suits and containment units? Well, besides
the diarrhea that comes with Ebola. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Sorry I'm being nice again, and giving you an out to save face.

2.
8:15 A.M. Ebola outbreak may prompt major international food crisis

The global famine warning system is predicting a major food crisis if the Ebola outbreak continues to grow exponentially over the coming months, and the United Nations still hasn't reached over 750,000 people in need of food in West Africa as prices spiral and farms are abandoned.

On the eve of World Food Day on Thursday, UN agencies and non-governmental organizations are scrambling to scale up efforts to avert widespread hunger.

"The world is mobilizing and we need to reach the smallest villages in the most remote locations," Denise Brown, the UN World Food Program's regional director for West Africa, said in a statement Wednesday. "Indications are that things will get worse before they improve. How much worse depends on us all."

WFP has said it needs to reach 1.3 million people in need in hardest-hit Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea.

When even CHINA is sending experimental medication to Africa, and people from all over the world
are sending food and donations, how is that building walls?

How many epidemics of "diarrhea" have killed off health workers
at a higher rate than the rest of the population and left hospitals empty,
as well as fields unfarmed, and more dead bodies stacking up than
can be disposed of safely to prevent the worst contagion in the deadliest stages.

I challenge you to answer these questions honestly
before posting anything else in this same state of mind
that doesn't understand this is different from past scares about bird flus for hype or profit.

If you're angry and distressed, at least be so for
the right reasons, and channel that in ways that help the
relief efforts in Africa.

Instead of using this issue to push your own hype
when that is what you are against.

Why put up walls when those are coming down in Africa.

Unless you don't really give a FU about the poor people dying in Africa
and just want to ABUSE this issue to spout off about something else.

Well I tried not to be nice about it. I tried to be rude.
Sorry if that was a fail....

Can you show me how you would say it
where Delta gets that this is serious and people ARE
reaching out from all over the world to try to help.

The isolation is for containment so that we don't lose
the very health workers who are needed the most.
It is not for the wrong reasons, as you can see
there is critical outreach going on, and all the information
out there is to teach how serious this is so more people and nations will help.

 

[Toro]

I think Ebola is extremely serious. However, it isn't going to kill half a million Americans.

 

[koshergrl]

Obesity doesn't kill half a million Americans.

And who knows, maybe ebola will.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I think Ebola is extremely serious. However, it isn't going to kill half a million Americans.

I think it is going to be far more deadly than anyone has even imagined. It has not fully hit yet. I hope I'm wrong but I believe this plague is going to get far worse. Far worse.

 

[Toro]

Obesity doesn't kill half a million Americans.

It's closer to 700,000.

Medscape Medscape Access

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Obesity doesn't kill half a million Americans.

It's closer to 700,000.

Medscape Medscape Access

Is it really, Toro? I had no idea! Oh my gosh. That is not good at all.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Which of these medical maladies would you rather have to deal with?:

Diarrhea
Obesity
Ebola

Yeah I thought so.

 

[Toro]

Which is an American more likely to die from?

Not Ebola.

 

[Moonglow]

Heart disease....

 

[koshergrl]

Obesity doesn't kill half a million Americans.

It's closer to 700,000.

Medscape Medscape Access

Is it really, Toro? I had no idea! Oh my gosh. That is not good at all.

Nor is it true.

 

[Toro]

Link?