Definition of the terms TREASON and TRAITOR

[Crick]

Overwhelm government with an ILLEGALS flood so massive Dems can claim it's a CRISIS so huge that it can only be fixed by making all the ILLEGALS voting Democrats.

When did your ancestors enter the country?

 

[Godboy]

STILL..............NOT treason.

That's the way the law works.
Trump did the same thing, every president since and including Reagan did.

No, Biden didnt just flood our nation with illegals, he changed the job of border patrol. This is going to sound strange to you as a dem, but historically, border patrol's job was to prevent illegals from entering the country. Biden has forced them to no longer keep people out, and devout all of their man hours to processing any illegal that comes to our border.

He committed treason.

 

[Crick]

You ASSHOLE Dems have been screaming for ILLEGALS amnesty for decades. We all know why, traitors!

Amnesty would allow undocumented immigrants to EARN citizenship. It would not grant it to them.

 

[Crick]

So, who are "America's enemies"?

The US isn't at war with anyone.

Good question. We have historical enemies: Russia, North Korea, Germany and Japan. We have come to better terms with some than with others.

 

[Crick]

No, Biden didnt just flood our nation with illegals, he changed the job of border patrol. This is going to sound strange to you as a dem, but historically, border patrol's job was to prevent illegals from entering the country. Biden has forced them to no longer keep people out, and devout all of their man hours to processing any illegal that comes to our border.

He committed treason.

The LAW requires that anyone who comes to the border seeking asylum be heard before a court. That had traditionally required at least temporary admission while their case worked its way through a very overloaded docket. Trump inaugurated the requirement that asylum seekers wait outside the borders. Biden eliminated Trump's requirement. Hardly treason - he simply restored what had been the law in this nation since its founding.

 

[Crick]

Trump light years from either

Trump is light years from either what?

 

[Crick]

Biden certainly falls into definition 2.

What violaton of allegiance do you believe Biden has committed

 

[Godboy]

The LAW requires that anyone who comes to the border seeking asylum be heard before a court.

There is no such fucking law. We often do listen to asylum claims in our courts because we are a generous nation, but we arent bound by ANY law to accept ANY asylum claim. We can turn away a political prisoner who escaped a wartorn nation if we want ed to, let alone a bunch of broke dick scrubs who just want better opportunities from a culture and nation that they didnt contribute to. They come with their fucking hands out, demanding phones, housing, food and welfare.

 

[Crick]

"2 a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state"

ilIllegally flooding our country with MILLIONS of unverified migrants is a clear case of treason by your own definition.

Don't be ridiculous. The only thing Biden has done was to end Trump's "Wait-in-Mexico" policy. Biden simply restored the method of dealing with asylum seekers that had been in place since this nation was founded. If that was treason, every president before Trump was a traitor.

 

[Godboy]

What violaton of allegiance do you believe Biden has committed

To prtoect our borders and its citizens. He did the opposite just for some votes. He is responsible for the deaths of THOUSANDS of US citizens and he is forcing the rest of us to pay for those freeloading losers scumbag fucks.

 

[Godboy]

Don't be ridiculous. The only thing Biden has done was to end Trump's "Wait-in-Mexico" policy.

Yeah, in order to flood our nation with 10 million illegals... and it worked.

 

[Crick]

Ah, now you want to back away from the definition laid out in the OP.

No. We'd like you to correctly understand simple English.

 

[Godboy]

No. We'd like you to correctly understand simple English.

Youre the one who is confused over basic words, not me.

 

[Crick]

Judas Iscariot betrayed the trust of Jesus, and he is considered the greatest Traitor known to Western history...

But if Judas hadn't ratted on him, Jesus would not have accomplished the task for which he came to Earth. Judas was doing god's work enabling human salvation and it cost him his life and his eternal reputation. Judas was a hero. There are similarities in the case of Professor Snape in the Harry Potter stories, don't you think.

 

[Crick]

There is no such fucking law. We often do listen to asylum claims in our courts because we are a generous nation, but we arent bound by ANY law to accept ANY asylum claim. We can turn away a political prisoner who escaped a wartorn nation if we want ed to, let alone a bunch of broke dick scrubs who just want better opportunities from a culture and nation that they didnt contribute to. They come with their fucking hands out, demanding phones, housing, food and welfare.

Wrong

Seeking asylum is a human right protected under our laws.​

The right to seek asylum — or safety from persecution — in another country was born out of the tragedies of World War II and the horrors of the Holocaust. In its aftermath, dozens of nations committed to never again slam the door on people in need of protection. The right to asylum was enshrined in 1948’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights and then again in the Refugee Convention of 1951 and its 1967 Protocol.
The United States passed its own federal law in the Refugee Act of 1980, for people who are fleeing persecution on “account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.” The Refugee Act is meant to ensure that individuals who seek asylum from within the U.S. or at its border are not sent back to places where they face persecution.
In today’s world, these protections remain critical, with more people forcibly displaced from their homes due to conflict, violence, and human rights violations than at any other point since World War II.

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To be granted asylum, people must come to the U.S. or the border and must prove their case.​

Elected officials and news outlets often mischaracterize those seeking asylum at the border as breaking the law or failing to seek protection “the right way.” However, under U.S. law, a person seeking asylum may do so by arriving at the border and asking to be screened by U.S. officials at a “port of entry,” or by entering the U.S. without prior inspection and then declaring their fear of persecution.
In either case, people seeking asylum at the border are subjected to a criminal background and security check. They must then navigate a complex and lengthy process, involving multiple government agencies, in order to prove that they have a well founded fear of persecution. Those who lose their cases and any appeals are ordered removed and are deported. Since March of 2020, most people seeking asylum at the border have been denied the right to do so under normal rules, and have instead been expelled from the U.S. under Title 42, described below.

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Many policies threaten the right to seek asylum, but none actually stop people from trying to seek protection at the border.​

President Trump implemented multiple policies in an attempt to end asylum at the border. President Biden promised to restore a fair and humane asylum system, but has been slow to fully reverse Trump’s policies. For example, Title 42, which uses the COVID-19 pandemic as a pretext for expelling asylum seekers without offering them any opportunity to seek protection, remains in effect. The policy has led to thousands of documented cases of violent attacks against individuals who the U.S. has expelled, including rape, torture, and abduction.
Elected officials in both parties have sought to justify restrictive asylum policies for their “deterrence” value, claiming that they discourage migrants from coming to the border. But these policies do not stop people from seeking safety and ultimately create more disorder. Title 42, for example, has encouraged people seeking protection to try multiple times to cross. Even after imposing the strictest and most punitive rules against asylum seekers, President Trump faced sharp increases in the numbers of migrants seeking asylum at the border, the highest numbers in over a decade.

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Despite obstacles, asylum-seekers become integral members of our communities.​

People seeking asylum in the U.S. must overcome many challenges. They leave their homes behind and endure grueling journeys in pursuit of safety. When they arrive, they are often unnecessarily detained by ICE in abusive conditions, even though they have family members or friends they could stay with while their cases proceed.
Despite these obstacles, asylum-seekers are eager to provide for their families and contribute to their communities. They have gone on to open their own businesses, work in jobs that help feed our communities, care for sick people, and advocate for people’s rights, contributing billions in taxes and revenue. One recent study estimated that on average, an asylum seeker contributes over $19,000 per year to the U.S. economy, and that a 25 percent reduction in the number of all people seeking asylum in the country would cause an economic loss of $20.5 billion over a five-year period.

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Excess money spent on policing the border would be better spent on creating a fair, orderly, and welcoming system.​

We need a more efficient, humane, and welcoming system at the border for people seeking asylum. Much of the money Congress currently spends on a bloated Border Patrol police force should be spent instead on making sure our immigration agencies and federal courts have enough employees and judges to adjudicate asylum claims in a fair and orderly manner, and to ensure that people are supported in their efforts to join their family members and sponsors in their destination locations. The sooner people are able to integrate into their new homes and are issued work permits, the sooner they’ll be able to support themselves and their families and contribute in other ways to their new communities.

 

[konradv]

A large portion posters here seem to think that any political act of which they disapprove makes one a traitor or guilty of treason. But, they do not. See if you can see what is lacking:

A TRAITOR is someone who commits TREASON.

TREASON

treason​

noun

1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.

I think MAGA needs pictures.

 

[Godboy]

Wrong

Seeking asylum is a human right protected under our laws.​

The right to seek asylum — or safety from persecution — in another country was born out of the tragedies of World War II and the horrors of the Holocaust. In its aftermath, dozens of nations committed to never again slam the door on people in need of protection. The right to asylum was enshrined in 1948’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights and then again in the Refugee Convention of 1951 and its 1967 Protocol.
The United States passed its own federal law in the Refugee Act of 1980, for people who are fleeing persecution on “account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.” The Refugee Act is meant to ensure that individuals who seek asylum from within the U.S. or at its border are not sent back to places where they face persecution.
In today’s world, these protections remain critical, with more people forcibly displaced from their homes due to conflict, violence, and human rights violations than at any other point since World War II.

---

To be granted asylum, people must come to the U.S. or the border and must prove their case.​

Elected officials and news outlets often mischaracterize those seeking asylum at the border as breaking the law or failing to seek protection “the right way.” However, under U.S. law, a person seeking asylum may do so by arriving at the border and asking to be screened by U.S. officials at a “port of entry,” or by entering the U.S. without prior inspection and then declaring their fear of persecution.
In either case, people seeking asylum at the border are subjected to a criminal background and security check. They must then navigate a complex and lengthy process, involving multiple government agencies, in order to prove that they have a well founded fear of persecution. Those who lose their cases and any appeals are ordered removed and are deported. Since March of 2020, most people seeking asylum at the border have been denied the right to do so under normal rules, and have instead been expelled from the U.S. under Title 42, described below.

---

Many policies threaten the right to seek asylum, but none actually stop people from trying to seek protection at the border.​

President Trump implemented multiple policies in an attempt to end asylum at the border. President Biden promised to restore a fair and humane asylum system, but has been slow to fully reverse Trump’s policies. For example, Title 42, which uses the COVID-19 pandemic as a pretext for expelling asylum seekers without offering them any opportunity to seek protection, remains in effect. The policy has led to thousands of documented cases of violent attacks against individuals who the U.S. has expelled, including rape, torture, and abduction.
Elected officials in both parties have sought to justify restrictive asylum policies for their “deterrence” value, claiming that they discourage migrants from coming to the border. But these policies do not stop people from seeking safety and ultimately create more disorder. Title 42, for example, has encouraged people seeking protection to try multiple times to cross. Even after imposing the strictest and most punitive rules against asylum seekers, President Trump faced sharp increases in the numbers of migrants seeking asylum at the border, the highest numbers in over a decade.

---

Despite obstacles, asylum-seekers become integral members of our communities.​

People seeking asylum in the U.S. must overcome many challenges. They leave their homes behind and endure grueling journeys in pursuit of safety. When they arrive, they are often unnecessarily detained by ICE in abusive conditions, even though they have family members or friends they could stay with while their cases proceed.
Despite these obstacles, asylum-seekers are eager to provide for their families and contribute to their communities. They have gone on to open their own businesses, work in jobs that help feed our communities, care for sick people, and advocate for people’s rights, contributing billions in taxes and revenue. One recent study estimated that on average, an asylum seeker contributes over $19,000 per year to the U.S. economy, and that a 25 percent reduction in the number of all people seeking asylum in the country would cause an economic loss of $20.5 billion over a five-year period.

---

Excess money spent on policing the border would be better spent on creating a fair, orderly, and welcoming system.​

We need a more efficient, humane, and welcoming system at the border for people seeking asylum. Much of the money Congress currently spends on a bloated Border Patrol police force should be spent instead on making sure our immigration agencies and federal courts have enough employees and judges to adjudicate asylum claims in a fair and orderly manner, and to ensure that people are supported in their efforts to join their family members and sponsors in their destination locations. The sooner people are able to integrate into their new homes and are issued work permits, the sooner they’ll be able to support themselves and their families and contribute in other ways to their new communities.

You have the right to SEEK asylum. We are under NO obligation to accept the claim. Furthermore, NONE of these illegals are PROVING their claim.

 

[Crick]

To prtoect our borders and its citizens.

Failing to protect borders, had Biden done so, would not be treason. Our borders are not under attack.

He did the opposite just for some votes.

No immigrants get granted instant citizenship. The process for getting US citizenship takes years. What votes do you think Biden would receive from immigrants entering the country during his presidency?

He is responsible for the deaths of THOUSANDS of US citizens and he is forcing the rest of us to pay for those freeloading losers scumbag fucks.

What deaths are you fucking talking about? Immigrants commit FAR less crime than do Americans and those immigrants work jobs that put food on your table and give you other benefits and do it for shit wages with no medical care.

 

[Crick]

You have the right to SEEK asylum. We are under NO obligation to accept the claim.

I never said we did. The process is difficult and lengthy, but US law requires that asylum seekers not be sent back.

Furthermore, NONE of these illegals are PROVING their claim.

Bullshit.

 

[Godboy]

Failing to protect borders, had Biden done so, would not be treason. Our borders are not under attack.

No immigrants get granted instant citizenship. The process for getting US citizenship takes years. What votes do you think Biden would receive from immigrants entering the country during his presidency?

What deaths are you fucking talking about? Immigrants commit FAR less crime than do Americans and those immigrants work jobs that put food on your table and give you other benefits and do it for shit wages with no medical care.

not true, our borders are under attack by the cartels who bring the illegals to the border. Border patrol agents are getting shot at.