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I don't give a rat's ass about what the ancestors on your mother's side have to say about it. I put about the same amount of stock in that as I do, say what Big Michael Brown's mother observations on her "gentle" son were.Uummmmm, let's see what my ancestors on my mom's side have to say about that........If you have ever been to an Indian reservation you might have a clearer picture. If you had been to an Indian reservation in the 20s and 30s you would have an even better idea.In the 1920s Indian children were removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools where they learned, ate and slept. In some areas the forced assimilation started as far back as 1891 and most ran up to 1935, thankfully enough slipped through the cracks to keep the language and culture alive.
If you don't know what you're talkin' about then silence is golden, you should practice it from time to time.........
But dumbing down is part-and-parcel of today's America so it's important to keep things simple I suppose.
I don't give a rat's ass about the ancestors on your mother's side have to say about it. I put about the same amount of stock in that as I do, say what Big Michael Brown's mother observations on her "gentile"son.Uummmmm, let's see what my ancestors on my mom's side have to say about that........If you have ever been to an Indian reservation you might have a clearer picture. If you had been to an Indian reservation in the 20s and 30s you would have an even better idea.In the 1920s Indian children were removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools where they learned, ate and slept. In some areas the forced assimilation started as far back as 1891 and most ran up to 1935, thankfully enough slipped through the cracks to keep the language and culture alive.
If you don't know what you're talkin' about then silence is golden, you should practice it from time to time.........
But dumbing down is part-and-parcel of today's America so it's important to keep things simple I suppose.
STOP BEING SO STUPID, OR AT LEAST STOP EXPECTING OTHERS TO BE SO!!!
In the 1920s Indian children were removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools where they learned, ate and slept. In some areas the forced assimilation started as far back as 1891 and most ran up to 1935, thankfully enough slipped through the cracks to keep the language and culture alive.No, that isnt the case.Maybe the population being decimated had something to do with it ?It's no one's fault but their own
No that's not it.
The people decided not to keep their traditions alive.
From the OP.
5. Verdena Parker
Language: Hupa
The Hupa people of northern California, like most Native American tribes, were subjected to a process of forced assimilation and English-only education. Ms. Parker avoided boarding school, being raised by her grandmother to speak Hupa. Nowadays she works with Stanford and Berkeley scholars to document the language, while also revitalizing it through an immersion program for high-schoolers that seems to have met with some degree of enthusiasm.
Forced assimilation would have a lot to do with it.
So those people were prevented from speaking their native language at home?
They were prevented from teaching their children their native language outside of the school system?
No they weren't
If you don't know what you're talkin' about then silence is golden, you should practice it from time to time.........
And you think that is the only reason?In the 1920s Indian children were removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools where they learned, ate and slept. In some areas the forced assimilation started as far back as 1891 and most ran up to 1935, thankfully enough slipped through the cracks to keep the language and culture alive.No, that isnt the case.Maybe the population being decimated had something to do with it ?
No that's not it.
The people decided not to keep their traditions alive.
From the OP.
5. Verdena Parker
Language: Hupa
The Hupa people of northern California, like most Native American tribes, were subjected to a process of forced assimilation and English-only education. Ms. Parker avoided boarding school, being raised by her grandmother to speak Hupa. Nowadays she works with Stanford and Berkeley scholars to document the language, while also revitalizing it through an immersion program for high-schoolers that seems to have met with some degree of enthusiasm.
Forced assimilation would have a lot to do with it.
So those people were prevented from speaking their native language at home?
They were prevented from teaching their children their native language outside of the school system?
No they weren't
If you don't know what you're talkin' about then silence is golden, you should practice it from time to time.........
The language is dying because it's an oral tradition. language that has no written component has never survived the evolution of society
Partly true, but the vocals of dead languages can survive with imported alphabets and more recently audio recordings.In the 1920s Indian children were removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools where they learned, ate and slept. In some areas the forced assimilation started as far back as 1891 and most ran up to 1935, thankfully enough slipped through the cracks to keep the language and culture alive.No, that isnt the case.Maybe the population being decimated had something to do with it ?
No that's not it.
The people decided not to keep their traditions alive.
From the OP.
5. Verdena Parker
Language: Hupa
The Hupa people of northern California, like most Native American tribes, were subjected to a process of forced assimilation and English-only education. Ms. Parker avoided boarding school, being raised by her grandmother to speak Hupa. Nowadays she works with Stanford and Berkeley scholars to document the language, while also revitalizing it through an immersion program for high-schoolers that seems to have met with some degree of enthusiasm.
Forced assimilation would have a lot to do with it.
So those people were prevented from speaking their native language at home?
They were prevented from teaching their children their native language outside of the school system?
No they weren't
If you don't know what you're talkin' about then silence is golden, you should practice it from time to time.........
The language is dying because it's an oral tradition. language that has no written component has never survived the evolution of society
Apache language, alphabet and pronunciationPartly true, but the vocals of dead languages can survive with imported alphabets and more recently audio recordings.In the 1920s Indian children were removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools where they learned, ate and slept. In some areas the forced assimilation started as far back as 1891 and most ran up to 1935, thankfully enough slipped through the cracks to keep the language and culture alive.No, that isnt the case.No that's not it.
The people decided not to keep their traditions alive.
From the OP.
5. Verdena Parker
Language: Hupa
The Hupa people of northern California, like most Native American tribes, were subjected to a process of forced assimilation and English-only education. Ms. Parker avoided boarding school, being raised by her grandmother to speak Hupa. Nowadays she works with Stanford and Berkeley scholars to document the language, while also revitalizing it through an immersion program for high-schoolers that seems to have met with some degree of enthusiasm.
Forced assimilation would have a lot to do with it.
So those people were prevented from speaking their native language at home?
They were prevented from teaching their children their native language outside of the school system?
No they weren't
If you don't know what you're talkin' about then silence is golden, you should practice it from time to time.........
The language is dying because it's an oral tradition. language that has no written component has never survived the evolution of society
No one even knows really knows what Ancient Egyptians sounded like even though the had an alphabet of sorts. The pronunciations are based on those of the Coptic language.
On the other hand, we know almost exactly what Ancient Greek and Latin sounded like.
You are correct. The vocals have indeed been preserved by an import alphabet. That was my point.Apache language, alphabet and pronunciationPartly true, but the vocals of dead languages can survive with imported alphabets and more recently audio recordings.In the 1920s Indian children were removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools where they learned, ate and slept. In some areas the forced assimilation started as far back as 1891 and most ran up to 1935, thankfully enough slipped through the cracks to keep the language and culture alive.No, that isnt the case.
From the OP.
5. Verdena Parker
Language: Hupa
The Hupa people of northern California, like most Native American tribes, were subjected to a process of forced assimilation and English-only education. Ms. Parker avoided boarding school, being raised by her grandmother to speak Hupa. Nowadays she works with Stanford and Berkeley scholars to document the language, while also revitalizing it through an immersion program for high-schoolers that seems to have met with some degree of enthusiasm.
Forced assimilation would have a lot to do with it.
So those people were prevented from speaking their native language at home?
They were prevented from teaching their children their native language outside of the school system?
No they weren't
If you don't know what you're talkin' about then silence is golden, you should practice it from time to time.........
The language is dying because it's an oral tradition. language that has no written component has never survived the evolution of society
No one even knows really knows what Ancient Egyptians sounded like even though the had an alphabet of sorts. The pronunciations are based on those of the Coptic language.
On the other hand, we know almost exactly what Ancient Greek and Latin sounded like.
Sioux languages, alphabets and pronunciation
Mohawk language, alphabet and pronunciation
Navajo Language - Diné Bizaad
Coming from you I'll take that as a compliment.You are correct. The vocals have indeed been preserved by an import alphabet.Apache language, alphabet and pronunciationPartly true, but the vocals of dead languages can survive with imported alphabets and more recently audio recordings.In the 1920s Indian children were removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools where they learned, ate and slept. In some areas the forced assimilation started as far back as 1891 and most ran up to 1935, thankfully enough slipped through the cracks to keep the language and culture alive.So those people were prevented from speaking their native language at home?
They were prevented from teaching their children their native language outside of the school system?
No they weren't
If you don't know what you're talkin' about then silence is golden, you should practice it from time to time.........
The language is dying because it's an oral tradition. language that has no written component has never survived the evolution of society
No one even knows really knows what Ancient Egyptians sounded like even though the had an alphabet of sorts. The pronunciations are based on those of the Coptic language.
On the other hand, we know almost exactly what Ancient Greek and Latin sounded like.
Sioux languages, alphabets and pronunciation
Mohawk language, alphabet and pronunciation
Navajo Language - Diné Bizaad
That does not mean you are not a dingbat.
I suspect, given what you are, you would take pretty much anything as a compliment.Coming from you I'll take that as a compliment.You are correct. The vocals have indeed been preserved by an import alphabet.Apache language, alphabet and pronunciationPartly true, but the vocals of dead languages can survive with imported alphabets and more recently audio recordings.In the 1920s Indian children were removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools where they learned, ate and slept. In some areas the forced assimilation started as far back as 1891 and most ran up to 1935, thankfully enough slipped through the cracks to keep the language and culture alive.
If you don't know what you're talkin' about then silence is golden, you should practice it from time to time.........
The language is dying because it's an oral tradition. language that has no written component has never survived the evolution of society
No one even knows really knows what Ancient Egyptians sounded like even though the had an alphabet of sorts. The pronunciations are based on those of the Coptic language.
On the other hand, we know almost exactly what Ancient Greek and Latin sounded like.
Sioux languages, alphabets and pronunciation
Mohawk language, alphabet and pronunciation
Navajo Language - Diné Bizaad
That does not mean you are not a dingbat.
Missed my point...... Not surprised.......I suspect, given what you are, you would take pretty much anything as a compliment.Coming from you I'll take that as a compliment.You are correct. The vocals have indeed been preserved by an import alphabet.Apache language, alphabet and pronunciationPartly true, but the vocals of dead languages can survive with imported alphabets and more recently audio recordings.The language is dying because it's an oral tradition. language that has no written component has never survived the evolution of society
No one even knows really knows what Ancient Egyptians sounded like even though the had an alphabet of sorts. The pronunciations are based on those of the Coptic language.
On the other hand, we know almost exactly what Ancient Greek and Latin sounded like.
Sioux languages, alphabets and pronunciation
Mohawk language, alphabet and pronunciation
Navajo Language - Diné Bizaad
That does not mean you are not a dingbat.
And you think that is the only reason?In the 1920s Indian children were removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools where they learned, ate and slept. In some areas the forced assimilation started as far back as 1891 and most ran up to 1935, thankfully enough slipped through the cracks to keep the language and culture alive.No, that isnt the case.No that's not it.
The people decided not to keep their traditions alive.
From the OP.
5. Verdena Parker
Language: Hupa
The Hupa people of northern California, like most Native American tribes, were subjected to a process of forced assimilation and English-only education. Ms. Parker avoided boarding school, being raised by her grandmother to speak Hupa. Nowadays she works with Stanford and Berkeley scholars to document the language, while also revitalizing it through an immersion program for high-schoolers that seems to have met with some degree of enthusiasm.
Forced assimilation would have a lot to do with it.
So those people were prevented from speaking their native language at home?
They were prevented from teaching their children their native language outside of the school system?
No they weren't
If you don't know what you're talkin' about then silence is golden, you should practice it from time to time.........
The language is dying because it's an oral tradition. language that has no written component has never survived the evolution of society
Oh and see if this fits within your paradigm........
"Welcome to the Ojibwe People's Dictionary
The Ojibwe People's Dictionary is a searchable, talking Ojibwe-English dictionary that features the voices of Ojibwe speakers. It is also a gateway into the Ojibwe collections at the Minnesota Historical Society. Along with detailed Ojibwe language entries and voices, you will find beautiful cultural items, photographs, and excerpts from relevant historical documents. Whenever possible, we provide examples of documents in the Ojibwe language."
The Ojibwe People's Dictionary
Did all these exist prior to Western Colonization or were they attempts to codify the languages later?Apache language, alphabet and pronunciationPartly true, but the vocals of dead languages can survive with imported alphabets and more recently audio recordings.In the 1920s Indian children were removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools where they learned, ate and slept. In some areas the forced assimilation started as far back as 1891 and most ran up to 1935, thankfully enough slipped through the cracks to keep the language and culture alive.No, that isnt the case.
From the OP.
5. Verdena Parker
Language: Hupa
The Hupa people of northern California, like most Native American tribes, were subjected to a process of forced assimilation and English-only education. Ms. Parker avoided boarding school, being raised by her grandmother to speak Hupa. Nowadays she works with Stanford and Berkeley scholars to document the language, while also revitalizing it through an immersion program for high-schoolers that seems to have met with some degree of enthusiasm.
Forced assimilation would have a lot to do with it.
So those people were prevented from speaking their native language at home?
They were prevented from teaching their children their native language outside of the school system?
No they weren't
If you don't know what you're talkin' about then silence is golden, you should practice it from time to time.........
The language is dying because it's an oral tradition. language that has no written component has never survived the evolution of society
No one even knows really knows what Ancient Egyptians sounded like even though the had an alphabet of sorts. The pronunciations are based on those of the Coptic language.
On the other hand, we know almost exactly what Ancient Greek and Latin sounded like.
Sioux languages, alphabets and pronunciation
Mohawk language, alphabet and pronunciation
Navajo Language - Diné Bizaad
There are many reasons, meathead, being the black and white thinking hack he is assumed the reason I initially addressed with my first response to you was the only reason I was claiming existed. Like with everything culture related there are always many causative factors, some more prevalent than others. Given your claim of laziness we could further explore the huge historical factor of government "stewardship" and it's ramifications for the native peoples up to today.And you think that is the only reason?In the 1920s Indian children were removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools where they learned, ate and slept. In some areas the forced assimilation started as far back as 1891 and most ran up to 1935, thankfully enough slipped through the cracks to keep the language and culture alive.No, that isnt the case.
From the OP.
5. Verdena Parker
Language: Hupa
The Hupa people of northern California, like most Native American tribes, were subjected to a process of forced assimilation and English-only education. Ms. Parker avoided boarding school, being raised by her grandmother to speak Hupa. Nowadays she works with Stanford and Berkeley scholars to document the language, while also revitalizing it through an immersion program for high-schoolers that seems to have met with some degree of enthusiasm.
Forced assimilation would have a lot to do with it.
So those people were prevented from speaking their native language at home?
They were prevented from teaching their children their native language outside of the school system?
No they weren't
If you don't know what you're talkin' about then silence is golden, you should practice it from time to time.........
The language is dying because it's an oral tradition. language that has no written component has never survived the evolution of society
Oh and see if this fits within your paradigm........
"Welcome to the Ojibwe People's Dictionary
The Ojibwe People's Dictionary is a searchable, talking Ojibwe-English dictionary that features the voices of Ojibwe speakers. It is also a gateway into the Ojibwe collections at the Minnesota Historical Society. Along with detailed Ojibwe language entries and voices, you will find beautiful cultural items, photographs, and excerpts from relevant historical documents. Whenever possible, we provide examples of documents in the Ojibwe language."
The Ojibwe People's Dictionary
It's certainly a historically relevant reason along with the lack of will among the people to keep their language and traditions alive
Probably later with some but not all but that's not the point, the point is these languages are no longer based on oral tradition and unlike the ancient Egyptians we have immediate, direct knowledge with how the NAs sounded.Did all these exist prior to Western Colonization or were they attempts to codify the languages later?Apache language, alphabet and pronunciationPartly true, but the vocals of dead languages can survive with imported alphabets and more recently audio recordings.In the 1920s Indian children were removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools where they learned, ate and slept. In some areas the forced assimilation started as far back as 1891 and most ran up to 1935, thankfully enough slipped through the cracks to keep the language and culture alive.So those people were prevented from speaking their native language at home?
They were prevented from teaching their children their native language outside of the school system?
No they weren't
If you don't know what you're talkin' about then silence is golden, you should practice it from time to time.........
The language is dying because it's an oral tradition. language that has no written component has never survived the evolution of society
No one even knows really knows what Ancient Egyptians sounded like even though the had an alphabet of sorts. The pronunciations are based on those of the Coptic language.
On the other hand, we know almost exactly what Ancient Greek and Latin sounded like.
Sioux languages, alphabets and pronunciation
Mohawk language, alphabet and pronunciation
Navajo Language - Diné Bizaad
7. Ebonics (a curse on a culture but they don't buy it)Essentially there are only a handful of practical world languages left.It isn't just a US thing. It's a world wide thing.
Enduring Voices Project, Endangered Languages, Map, Facts, Photos, Videos -- National Geographic
1 - English (thank you Queen Elizabeth 1st)
2 - Spanish (thank you Charles 5th)
3 - Mandarin (thank you Ming Dynasty)
4 - Hindu (thank you Veda's)
5 - Arabic (due to Muhammad -- I'm not going to thank him -- he has caused all kinds of other sh!t as well)
6 - Russian (thank you Katherine The Great)
All the other languages are useless and should be allowed to die, other than perhaps ancient Hebrew and ancient Greek and Latin for Biblical purposes.
Essentially there are only a handful of practical world languages left.It isn't just a US thing. It's a world wide thing.
Enduring Voices Project, Endangered Languages, Map, Facts, Photos, Videos -- National Geographic
1 - English (thank you Queen Elizabeth 1st)
2 - Spanish (thank you Charles 5th)
3 - Mandarin (thank you Ming Dynasty)
4 - Hindu (thank you Veda's)
5 - Arabic (due to Muhammad -- I'm not going to thank him -- he has caused all kinds of other sh!t as well)
6 - Russian (thank you Katherine The Great)
All the other languages are useless and should be allowed to die, other than perhaps ancient Hebrew and ancient Greek and Latin for Biblical purposes.
No. It is not an issue .Native American Languages
Most Native American languages have ceased to exist, or are spoken only by older speakers, with whom the language will die in the coming decades.
This seems to me to be an American tragedy.
6 Last Living Speakers of Dying Languages
Imagine being the last one standing. Is this a big issue in the States ?
