Litwin
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Death camp Buchenwald under "russian" occupant administration was functioning many years after 1945 . i am 100% sure that you have never heard about it "Soviet commie death Camps in Germany, 1945-1950". am i right?
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For the revision of the GDR myth of Buchenwald, the revival of the memory of the post-war past of the camp was of decisive importance, and this, in turn, required considerable effort on the part of historical science. The existence of the camp of the NKVD, of which they knew, of course, in the West, did not have documentary evidence - the archives of the GDR were only to be examined, and the documents kept in Moscow required the same research.
The first question that confronted the researchers was the question of who, in fact, were the prisoners of the Soviet camp. “There was a variety of information on this score - the greatest amount of evidence we heard was received from former members of the Hitler Youth, who got there at the age of 14-18; they claimed that it was “such a holocaust against us,” recalls Niethammer. For the next few years, he and a team of like-minded people, including the director of the State Archives of the Russian Federation, Sergey Mironenko, tried to gather evidence or refutations of this information. The result of their work was the publication in 1995 of the collection of documents "Soviet Special Camps in Germany, 1945-1950".
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NKVD special camps in Germany 1945–49 - Wikipedia
At first there were 10 such internment camps in the Soviet occupation zone, then their number decreased to three — these are Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen, and Bautzen. In Buchenwald, the main contingent was made up of those who at one time were members of Nazi organizations, but there were very few who held really responsible posts among them - “mostly they were local level functionaries,” Nithammer summarizes. In Bautzen there were practically no minor regime bipods - “rebellious youth” were kept there, retaining loyalty to the fallen regime and embarking on the tough opposition of the occupation administration. Representatives of both these groups were imprisoned in Sachsenhausen.
“By this, they [Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen and Bautzen] were very different from the internment camps in the Western [occupation] zones. Americans put more people in the camps than in the eastern zone, but among the prisoners there were a high proportion of high-ranking Nazi functionaries, including SS officers, while the Soviet administration considered the SS men prisoners of war and sent them to other camps, ”says Niethammer.
Another documented discovery of researchers was the recognition that the death rate in the Soviet special camp was comparable to the death rate in Buchenwald under the Nazis. The bulk of the 28,000 dead died in a very specific period of time, from the fall of 1946 to the summer of 1947. The German scientist stresses that the NKVD camp “did not purposefully kill prisoners,” and continues: “Surprisingly, there was relatively little violence - most of the violence occurred during the arrests, but after people went to this camp, not even exploited. They were not forced to work - in contrast to the GULAG, where prisoners were forced to work, the inhabitants of this camp had no right to work, they were simply isolated from the outside world. ”
“It was not a Nazi massacre, produced by terror and exploitation, it was a Soviet-style massacre, due to bureaucratic delays and conflicts between various departments and a general neglect [of people’s lives],” Niethammer states. Prisoners in the Soviet camp were dying themselves - from starvation.
The winter of 1946-1947 throughout Europe was very harsh, it led to famine in the USSR, and just at that time the NKVD decided to transfer the camp to the balance of the Soviet military administration in Germany (SVAG). While there was a process of acceptance of documents, nobody was engaged in feeding the prisoners, and when the administrators appointed by SVAR took over, they simply cut the diet. Normal nutrition began to return to Buchenwald only after a quarter of the prisoners in the camp died out."
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Archives: hunger and bureaucracy
For the revision of the GDR myth of Buchenwald, the revival of the memory of the post-war past of the camp was of decisive importance, and this, in turn, required considerable effort on the part of historical science. The existence of the camp of the NKVD, of which they knew, of course, in the West, did not have documentary evidence - the archives of the GDR were only to be examined, and the documents kept in Moscow required the same research.
The first question that confronted the researchers was the question of who, in fact, were the prisoners of the Soviet camp. “There was a variety of information on this score - the greatest amount of evidence we heard was received from former members of the Hitler Youth, who got there at the age of 14-18; they claimed that it was “such a holocaust against us,” recalls Niethammer. For the next few years, he and a team of like-minded people, including the director of the State Archives of the Russian Federation, Sergey Mironenko, tried to gather evidence or refutations of this information. The result of their work was the publication in 1995 of the collection of documents "Soviet Special Camps in Germany, 1945-1950".
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NKVD special camps in Germany 1945–49 - Wikipedia
At first there were 10 such internment camps in the Soviet occupation zone, then their number decreased to three — these are Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen, and Bautzen. In Buchenwald, the main contingent was made up of those who at one time were members of Nazi organizations, but there were very few who held really responsible posts among them - “mostly they were local level functionaries,” Nithammer summarizes. In Bautzen there were practically no minor regime bipods - “rebellious youth” were kept there, retaining loyalty to the fallen regime and embarking on the tough opposition of the occupation administration. Representatives of both these groups were imprisoned in Sachsenhausen.
“By this, they [Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen and Bautzen] were very different from the internment camps in the Western [occupation] zones. Americans put more people in the camps than in the eastern zone, but among the prisoners there were a high proportion of high-ranking Nazi functionaries, including SS officers, while the Soviet administration considered the SS men prisoners of war and sent them to other camps, ”says Niethammer.
Another documented discovery of researchers was the recognition that the death rate in the Soviet special camp was comparable to the death rate in Buchenwald under the Nazis. The bulk of the 28,000 dead died in a very specific period of time, from the fall of 1946 to the summer of 1947. The German scientist stresses that the NKVD camp “did not purposefully kill prisoners,” and continues: “Surprisingly, there was relatively little violence - most of the violence occurred during the arrests, but after people went to this camp, not even exploited. They were not forced to work - in contrast to the GULAG, where prisoners were forced to work, the inhabitants of this camp had no right to work, they were simply isolated from the outside world. ”
“It was not a Nazi massacre, produced by terror and exploitation, it was a Soviet-style massacre, due to bureaucratic delays and conflicts between various departments and a general neglect [of people’s lives],” Niethammer states. Prisoners in the Soviet camp were dying themselves - from starvation.
The winter of 1946-1947 throughout Europe was very harsh, it led to famine in the USSR, and just at that time the NKVD decided to transfer the camp to the balance of the Soviet military administration in Germany (SVAG). While there was a process of acceptance of documents, nobody was engaged in feeding the prisoners, and when the administrators appointed by SVAR took over, they simply cut the diet. Normal nutrition began to return to Buchenwald only after a quarter of the prisoners in the camp died out."
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