DC crime since the announcement of federal control versus the 7 days prior:

[drudge X]

Crime in DC was more lethal than ever.

DC has more crimes in a week than Tokyo has in six months.

 

[LeftofLeft]

If he didn’t call out the troops the crime problem must have not been that bad.

Now run along little boy

That makes no sense…. Especially since DC has already been caught falsifying crime reports. Just admit you don’t care about crime in DC and your agenda is getTrump.

 

[Moonglow]

Looks like it wasn't too early.

I never is fer a hair of the dog mornin'.

 

[Moonglow]

That makes no sense…. Especially since DC has already been caught falsifying crime reports. Just admit you don’t care about crime in DC and your agenda is getTrump.

The fudging of the number happened during Trump in DC probably at his behest.

 

[Moonglow]

Same old misrepresentation as the media and Democrats.

Let's assume that last year DC has 100 murders, 70 rape cases, 80 assault cases.

This year DC has 95 murders, 65 rape cases, and 75 assault cases. Oh look, crime is down.

Well duh...

 

[candycorn]

That makes no sense…. Especially since DC has already been caught falsifying crime reports.

Never happened.

Your argument is that since the 80's, crime has been out of control.

Scientists tell us that that would include all years between 1980 and 2025. This includes the four years of 2017-2021.

During that time, your blob didn't think the crime was so bad to call out the national guard to set up checkpoints.

So this proves that you're lying your ass off.

Now go away.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Never happened.

Your argument is that since the 80's, crime has been out of control.

Scientists tell us that that would include all years between 1980 and 2025. This includes the four years of 2017-2021.

During that time, your blob didn't think the crime was so bad to call out the national guard to set up checkpoints.

So this proves that you're lying your ass off.

Now go away.

Your solution to reducing crime in DC is for Trump to release Epstein papers. Go start a thread on that.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Never happened.

Your argument is that since the 80's, crime has been out of control.

Scientists tell us that that would include all years between 1980 and 2025. This includes the four years of 2017-2021.

During that time, your blob didn't think the crime was so bad to call out the national guard to set up checkpoints.

So this proves that you're lying your ass off.

Now go away.

DC police commander suspended, accused of changing crime statistics

A D.C. police commander is under investigation for allegedly making changes to crime statistics in his district. The Metropolitan Police Department confirmed Michael Pulliam was placed on paid administrative leave in mid-May. That happened just a week after Pulliam filed an equal employment...

www.nbcwashington.com

 

[BackAgain]

Your solution to reducing crime in DC is for Trump to release Epstein papers. Go start a thread on that.

Lol. Yep. The world needs more deflection from those leftist morons over Epstein. Otherwise, of course, they’d be reduced to having to discuss the second Trump Administration and its actual successes.

 

[candycorn]

Your solution to reducing crime in DC is for Trump to release Epstein papers. Go start a thread on that.

Crime in DC was already reduced.

All of this silly nonsense is to distract from your blob being a pedophile.

 

[candycorn]

DC police commander suspended, accused of changing crime statistics

A D.C. police commander is under investigation for allegedly making changes to crime statistics in his district. The Metropolitan Police Department confirmed Michael Pulliam was placed on paid administrative leave in mid-May. That happened just a week after Pulliam filed an equal employment...

www.nbcwashington.com

Your own link says that he's under investigation.

Right?

The blob was under investigation for over 100 felonies --convicted of 34.

So I guess that means all of the other felonies are now confirmed using your "logic"...right?

 

[IM2]

Due to Book Cooking ( Two High Level Police Admins have already lost job or are gettin charged over it )

Wrong.

 

[IM2]

Decreases in criminality are due to racism and persecution
Lib 101

There has been no decrease due to the troops.

 

[Care4all]

Any info on how they differentiate ADW from violent crime?

Nah, seriously...that is some data you've come up with there. Assault with a deadly weapon has only dropped 6%? You'd figure that would be more of a priority.

And the 6% alleged drop is likely just 1 person less....they used percentages without showing the actual numbers being compared, for a reason.

 

[Winco]

Real decline in real crimes

Democrats unhappy.

Democrats should never have power again.

This is from the RW Grok.

is crime down in DC since trump ordered the national guard?

What are the specifics?Since the 47th President Donald Trump ordered the deployment of the National Guard to Washington, D.C. on August 11, 2025, available data indicates that crime rates, particularly violent crime, have continued to decline in the city, consistent with trends that began before the deployment. However, specific data for the period immediately following the deployment (August 11 to August 19, 2025) is limited, as crime statistics are typically reported over longer periods (e.g., monthly or yearly). Below are the specifics based on the most recent information available up to August 19, 2025.Overview of Crime Trends in Washington, D.C.

Pre-Deployment Context (2023–2024):

2023 Spike: Washington, D.C. experienced a significant spike in violent crime in 2023, with 274 homicides, the highest in over 20 years, and a notable increase in carjackings (959 reported cases). This was attributed to post-COVID challenges and phenomena like the "Kia Boyz" car theft trend.2024 Decline: Violent crime dropped sharply in 2024, with a 35% reduction according to the Metropolitan Police Department (MPDC) and a 9% reduction per FBI data. Homicides fell 32% to 187, and overall violent crime reached a 30-year low. Car thefts also decreased by 25% from 2023 to 2024.

2025 Trends (Year-to-Date up to August 11, 2025):

Violent Crime: MPDC data shows a further 26% decrease in violent crime compared to the same period in 2024, with approximately 1,600 violent incidents in 2025 compared to 2,140 in 2024 for a city of about 700,000 residents.Homicides: Homicides dropped by 12% from 2024 to 2025, with a preliminary count of 99 homicides through August 11, 2025.Robbery and Other Crimes: Robbery decreased by 28%, and other violent crimes like sexual abuse and assault with a dangerous weapon also saw steep declines. Car thefts remained relatively flat compared to 2024.

Post-Deployment (August 11–19, 2025):

Specific crime statistics for the eight days since the National Guard deployment are not comprehensively detailed in available sources, as such granular data is typically aggregated over longer periods. However, there is no evidence from the provided references indicating a significant deviation from the ongoing downward trend in violent crime.On August 12, 2025, the White House reported that 23 people were arrested by federal agents on the first night of the deployment (August 11) for various offenses, including homicide, gun offenses, drug dealing, lewd acts, stalking, and reckless driving. This suggests an immediate increase in enforcement activity, but it does not directly indicate whether overall crime rates changed in response.Experts, such as Thaddeus Johnson from the Council on Criminal Justice, noted that the deployment could lead to a short-term increase in arrests due to heightened law enforcement presence, which may affect public perception but not necessarily reflect an increase in crime.

Context of the National Guard Deployment

Deployment Details: President Trump deployed 800 National Guard troops and placed the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department under federal control, citing a "public safety emergency" due to perceived high crime rates. The troops are tasked with administrative, logistical, and physical presence roles to support law enforcement, with 100–200 soldiers active at any given time.Claims vs. Data: Trump claimed that crime in D.C. was "out of control," with the 2023 murder rate being the "highest ever" and crime rates surpassing those of cities like Mexico City or Bogotá. These claims are inaccurate:

The 2023 homicide rate (274) was the highest in 20 years, not "ever," as the city saw over 470 homicides in 1990 and 1991.Official data contradicts the narrative of rising crime, showing significant declines in 2024 and 2025.Comparisons to cities like Fallujah, Iraq, or Bogotá were exaggerated, as D.C.'s crime rate, while high compared to some U.S. cities, does not align with such extreme claims.

Local Response: D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser and other officials, including the D.C. Attorney General Brian Schwalb, have rejected Trump’s claims, emphasizing that violent crime is at a 30-year low and that the deployment is "unprecedented, unnecessary, and unlawful." Bowser noted that local strategies implemented post-2023 have been effective in reducing crime.

Analysis and Considerations

Continued Decline: The downward trend in violent crime, including homicides, robberies, and assaults, appears to have continued into 2025, driven by local policies and strategies implemented before the National Guard deployment. There is no indication that the deployment itself has significantly altered this trend in the short term, though increased enforcement may lead to more arrests.Data Limitations: The short timeframe since the deployment (August 11–19, 2025) makes it challenging to assess its direct impact on crime rates, as official statistics are not yet available for this specific period. Weekly or monthly MPDC reports would be needed for a precise analysis.Controversies: Some sources, including the D.C. Police Union, have claimed that crime data may be underreported or manipulated, though these claims lack substantiation in the provided references. Conversely, experts like Jeff Asher and Adam Gelb confirm the significant decline in violent crime based on MPDC and FBI data.Public Perception vs. Reality: The deployment may be more about addressing public perception of crime, amplified by high-profile incidents like the assault of a former Department of Government Efficiency staffer, rather than responding to actual crime trends.

ConclusionCrime in Washington, D.C., particularly violent crime, has been decreasing significantly since the 2023 spike, with a 35% drop in 2024 and an additional 26% decline in 2025 through August 11, according to MPDC data. Homicides are down 12% year-to-date, and other violent crimes like robbery are down 28%. While the National Guard deployment on August 11, 2025, has led to increased enforcement activity (e.g., 23 arrests on the first night), there is no specific data indicating a change in the ongoing downward crime trend in the eight days since. The deployment appears to be more aligned with political signaling than a response to rising crime, as official statistics contradict claims of a crime emergency. For more precise post-deployment data, future MPDC reports or updates from sources like the Council on Criminal Justice would be needed.

 

[MisterBeale]

They arrested fewer people with all these soldiers than when they weren't there.

Andrea Mitchell: DC Police Arresting Fewer People Than "Normal" After Federal Takeover​

NBC News chief foreign correspondent Andrea Mitchell complained on this week's 'Meet the Press' roundtable that Trump's federal takeover of the Washington D.C. police is "performative" because there have been fewer arrests than "normal."

"It's not clear what they're doing. They are performative," she said. "The arrest statistics are not up. They're in fact lower than the normal police arrests on an average night."

MSN

There is less need to arrest people when you have a presence on the streets.

Who is going to go out and do crime with eyes and guns everywhere?

 

[Winco]

Crime is going down.

Has been for the last few years.​

Here is some FACTS for you from GROK.

​

Overview of Crime Trends in Washington, D.C.​

• Pre-Deployment Context (2023–2024):
  • 2023 Spike: Washington, D.C. experienced a significant spike in violent crime in 2023, with 274 homicides, the highest in over 20 years, and a notable increase in carjackings (959 reported cases). This was attributed to post-COVID challenges and phenomena like the "Kia Boyz" car theft trend.
  • 2024 Decline: Violent crime dropped sharply in 2024, with a 35% reduction according to the Metropolitan Police Department (MPDC) and a 9% reduction per FBI data. Homicides fell 32% to 187, and overall violent crime reached a 30-year low. Car thefts also decreased by 25% from 2023 to 2024.
• 2025 Trends (Year-to-Date up to August 11, 2025):
  • Violent Crime: MPDC data shows a further 26% decrease in violent crime compared to the same period in 2024, with approximately 1,600 violent incidents in 2025 compared to 2,140 in 2024 for a city of about 700,000 residents.
  • Homicides: Homicides dropped by 12% from 2024 to 2025, with a preliminary count of 99 homicides through August 11, 2025.
  • Robbery and Other Crimes: Robbery decreased by 28%, and other violent crimes like sexual abuse and assault with a dangerous weapon also saw steep declines. Car thefts remained relatively flat compared to 2024.
• Post-Deployment (August 11–19, 2025):
  • Specific crime statistics for the eight days since the National Guard deployment are not comprehensively detailed in available sources, as such granular data is typically aggregated over longer periods. However, there is no evidence from the provided references indicating a significant deviation from the ongoing downward trend in violent crime.

 

[MisterBeale]

This is from the RW Grok.

is crime down in DC since trump ordered the national guard?

What are the specifics?Since the 47th President Donald Trump ordered the deployment of the National Guard to Washington, D.C. on August 11, 2025, available data indicates that crime rates, particularly violent crime, have continued to decline in the city, consistent with trends that began before the deployment. However, specific data for the period immediately following the deployment (August 11 to August 19, 2025) is limited, as crime statistics are typically reported over longer periods (e.g., monthly or yearly). Below are the specifics based on the most recent information available up to August 19, 2025.Overview of Crime Trends in Washington, D.C.

Pre-Deployment Context (2023–2024):

2023 Spike: Washington, D.C. experienced a significant spike in violent crime in 2023, with 274 homicides, the highest in over 20 years, and a notable increase in carjackings (959 reported cases). This was attributed to post-COVID challenges and phenomena like the "Kia Boyz" car theft trend.2024 Decline: Violent crime dropped sharply in 2024, with a 35% reduction according to the Metropolitan Police Department (MPDC) and a 9% reduction per FBI data. Homicides fell 32% to 187, and overall violent crime reached a 30-year low. Car thefts also decreased by 25% from 2023 to 2024.

2025 Trends (Year-to-Date up to August 11, 2025):

Violent Crime: MPDC data shows a further 26% decrease in violent crime compared to the same period in 2024, with approximately 1,600 violent incidents in 2025 compared to 2,140 in 2024 for a city of about 700,000 residents.Homicides: Homicides dropped by 12% from 2024 to 2025, with a preliminary count of 99 homicides through August 11, 2025.Robbery and Other Crimes: Robbery decreased by 28%, and other violent crimes like sexual abuse and assault with a dangerous weapon also saw steep declines. Car thefts remained relatively flat compared to 2024.

Post-Deployment (August 11–19, 2025):

Specific crime statistics for the eight days since the National Guard deployment are not comprehensively detailed in available sources, as such granular data is typically aggregated over longer periods. However, there is no evidence from the provided references indicating a significant deviation from the ongoing downward trend in violent crime.On August 12, 2025, the White House reported that 23 people were arrested by federal agents on the first night of the deployment (August 11) for various offenses, including homicide, gun offenses, drug dealing, lewd acts, stalking, and reckless driving. This suggests an immediate increase in enforcement activity, but it does not directly indicate whether overall crime rates changed in response.Experts, such as Thaddeus Johnson from the Council on Criminal Justice, noted that the deployment could lead to a short-term increase in arrests due to heightened law enforcement presence, which may affect public perception but not necessarily reflect an increase in crime.

Context of the National Guard Deployment

Deployment Details: President Trump deployed 800 National Guard troops and placed the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department under federal control, citing a "public safety emergency" due to perceived high crime rates. The troops are tasked with administrative, logistical, and physical presence roles to support law enforcement, with 100–200 soldiers active at any given time.Claims vs. Data: Trump claimed that crime in D.C. was "out of control," with the 2023 murder rate being the "highest ever" and crime rates surpassing those of cities like Mexico City or Bogotá. These claims are inaccurate:

The 2023 homicide rate (274) was the highest in 20 years, not "ever," as the city saw over 470 homicides in 1990 and 1991.Official data contradicts the narrative of rising crime, showing significant declines in 2024 and 2025.Comparisons to cities like Fallujah, Iraq, or Bogotá were exaggerated, as D.C.'s crime rate, while high compared to some U.S. cities, does not align with such extreme claims.

Local Response: D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser and other officials, including the D.C. Attorney General Brian Schwalb, have rejected Trump’s claims, emphasizing that violent crime is at a 30-year low and that the deployment is "unprecedented, unnecessary, and unlawful." Bowser noted that local strategies implemented post-2023 have been effective in reducing crime.

Analysis and Considerations

Continued Decline: The downward trend in violent crime, including homicides, robberies, and assaults, appears to have continued into 2025, driven by local policies and strategies implemented before the National Guard deployment. There is no indication that the deployment itself has significantly altered this trend in the short term, though increased enforcement may lead to more arrests.Data Limitations: The short timeframe since the deployment (August 11–19, 2025) makes it challenging to assess its direct impact on crime rates, as official statistics are not yet available for this specific period. Weekly or monthly MPDC reports would be needed for a precise analysis.Controversies: Some sources, including the D.C. Police Union, have claimed that crime data may be underreported or manipulated, though these claims lack substantiation in the provided references. Conversely, experts like Jeff Asher and Adam Gelb confirm the significant decline in violent crime based on MPDC and FBI data.Public Perception vs. Reality: The deployment may be more about addressing public perception of crime, amplified by high-profile incidents like the assault of a former Department of Government Efficiency staffer, rather than responding to actual crime trends.

ConclusionCrime in Washington, D.C., particularly violent crime, has been decreasing significantly since the 2023 spike, with a 35% drop in 2024 and an additional 26% decline in 2025 through August 11, according to MPDC data. Homicides are down 12% year-to-date, and other violent crimes like robbery are down 28%. While the National Guard deployment on August 11, 2025, has led to increased enforcement activity (e.g., 23 arrests on the first night), there is no specific data indicating a change in the ongoing downward crime trend in the eight days since. The deployment appears to be more aligned with political signaling than a response to rising crime, as official statistics contradict claims of a crime emergency. For more precise post-deployment data, future MPDC reports or updates from sources like the Council on Criminal Justice would be needed.

If grok is out there observing what is going on? Then I'll care about what it has to say.


Otherwise, it is just regurgitating.

 

[Winco]

If grok is out there observing what is going on? Then I'll care about what it has to say.


Otherwise, it is just regurgitating.

Where do you get YOUR news.

Does Grok have access to YOUR news?

 

[MisterBeale]

Where do you get YOUR news.

Does Grok have access to YOUR news?

DC police commander suspended, accused of changing crime statistics

A D.C. police commander is under investigation for allegedly making changes to crime statistics in his district. The Metropolitan Police Department confirmed Michael Pulliam was placed on paid administrative leave in mid-May. That happened just a week after Pulliam filed an equal employment...

www.nbcwashington.com

Justice Department is investigating whether D.C. police manipulated crime data

The inquiry into whether data was manipulated to make crime rates seem lower is being run out of the office of the U.S. attorney for D.C., Jeanine Pirro.

www.nbcnews.com

DOJ probing whether DC crime stats were manipulated

The investigation into the allegations that DC’s Metropolitan Police Department fudged data to make crime rates appear lower is reportedly being led by the office of DC US Attorney Jeanine Pirro, a…

nypost.com

Pretty sure it does, you just ask the wrong questions.

Ask the wrong questions, get the wrong answers?