Dahleen Glanton: What we’re getting wrong about Juneteenth

[excalibur]

Actual history, not phony, made up Democratic Party BS.

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Juneteenth does not represent the end of slavery in America, as it is often erroneously reported. It specifically notes the end of slavery in Texas. Slavery continued to thrive in several border states that were not affected by the Emancipation Proclamation. Delaware was the last to free its nearly 2,000 slaves on Dec. 6, 1865, six months after Texas.​

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Dec. 6 would be the most accurate date to celebrate the end of slavery. That’s when the 13th Amendment was ratified in 1865, officially abolishing slavery throughout the United States. Every state was then required by federal law to free its slaves.​

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There is no historical reason to make June 19 a federal holiday or even a state holiday anywhere other than in Texas. It does, however, allow for a good summer celebration. And it’s better than no commemoration at all.​

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Dahleen Glanton: What we’re getting wrong about Juneteenth

There’s certainly nothing wrong with embracing Black history. The problem is that it’s the wrong date. The last of the slaves were not freed on Juneteenth.

www.fayobserver.com

 

[Dante Reawakened]

"ignorance = lack of knowledge - being unaware of information



The Smithsonian has the info:


"Juneteenth marks our country’s second independence day. Although it has long celebrated in the African American community, this monumental event remains largely unknown to most Americans."


"The historical legacy of Juneteenth shows the value of never giving up hope in uncertain times. The National Museum of African American History and Culture is a community space where this spirit of hope lives on. A place where historical events like Juneteenth are shared and new stories with equal urgency are told."

The Historical Legacy of Juneteenth

Juneteenth is an often overlooked event in our nation’s history. On June 19, 1865, Union troops freed enslaved African Americans in Galveston Bay and across Texas some two and a half years after President Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation.

nmaahc.si.edu

 

[Concerned American]

"ignorance = lack of knowledge - being unaware of information

Juneteenth is a celebration of ignorance because of the lack of news dissemination. The term itself is ignorance personified.

 

[DGS49]

I vigorously object to the date of Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation as the reference date for the end of slavery.

The EP had NO LEGAL EFFECT. It was a nullity, and created for purely propagantistic purposes, so signify to the English that the U.S. was unwaveringly opposed to slavery and would end it, and to enslaved people who might hear of it. Consider:

• There is no such thing as a "proclamation" in American Constitutional law.
• Are we all aware that the slaves in the four Border States were not freed by the EP? Only slaves in the states "in rebellion."
• Lincoln had no power whatsoever in the Confederate States of America. It is as though the President today proclaimed that all cars in Canada must be painted green. Meaningless.
• The slaves were PROPERTY under the law, and Lincoln would have had to COMPENSATE the slave owners for the expropriation of their human property. This was never even envisioned.
• There is no Article II power even remotely covering such an outrageous usurpation of power.
• If the EP had been effective, there would have been no reason to pass the 13th Amendment.

While it is interesting and sad to note that some slaves were not actually freed with the others, Juneteenth is a queer date to choose for a celebration of the end of slavery.

 

[d0gbreath]

It really just ended slavery in Galveston, TX. It takes time to change a few million people from being hard working chattel, into free people. The speech in Galveston told the slaves to keep working where you are, but for money (not enforced) because they enforced vagrancy laws back then. Actually until about 40 years ago.

The History of Slave Patrols, Black Codes, and Vagrancy Laws

This mini-lesson provides a brief overview of the history of policing in the early United States and then examines how laws, and biased enforcement of those laws, were used to control the lives of Black Americans in the South following the Civil War.

www.facinghistory.org

 

[d0gbreath]

I vigorously object to the date of Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation as the reference date for the end of slavery.

The EP had NO LEGAL EFFECT. It was a nullity, and created for purely propagantistic purposes, so signify to the English that the U.S. was unwaveringly opposed to slavery and would end it, and to enslaved people who might hear of it. Consider:

• There is no such thing as a "proclamation" in American Constitutional law.
• Are we all aware that the slaves in the four Border States were not freed by the EP? Only slaves in the states "in rebellion."
• Lincoln had no power whatsoever in the Confederate States of America. It is as though the President today proclaimed that all cars in Canada must be painted green. Meaningless.
• The slaves were PROPERTY under the law, and Lincoln would have had to COMPENSATE the slave owners for the expropriation of their human property. This was never even envisioned.
• There is no Article II power even remotely covering such an outrageous usurpation of power.
• If the EP had been effective, there would have been no reason to pass the 13th Amendment.

While it is interesting and sad to note that some slaves were not actually freed with the others, Juneteenth is a queer date to choose for a celebration of the end of slavery.

Nice opinion cracker.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

"ignorance = lack of knowledge - being unaware of information

The Smithsonian has the info:

"Juneteenth marks our country’s second independence day. Although it has long celebrated in the African American community, this monumental event remains largely unknown to most Americans."

"The historical legacy of Juneteenth shows the value of never giving up hope in uncertain times. The National Museum of African American History and Culture is a community space where this spirit of hope lives on. A place where historical events like Juneteenth are shared and new stories with equal urgency are told."

The Historical Legacy of Juneteenth

Juneteenth is an often overlooked event in our nation’s history. On June 19, 1865, Union troops freed enslaved African Americans in Galveston Bay and across Texas some two and a half years after President Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation.

nmaahc.si.edu

this is not fake info

 

[Dante Reawakened]

I vigorously object to the date of Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation as the reference date for the end of slavery.

The EP had NO LEGAL EFFECT. It was a nullity, and created for purely propagantistic purposes, so signify to the English that the U.S. was unwaveringly opposed to slavery and would end it, and to enslaved people who might hear of it. Consider:

• There is no such thing as a "proclamation" in American Constitutional law.
• Are we all aware that the slaves in the four Border States were not freed by the EP? Only slaves in the states "in rebellion."
• Lincoln had no power whatsoever in the Confederate States of America. It is as though the President today proclaimed that all cars in Canada must be painted green. Meaningless.
• The slaves were PROPERTY under the law, and Lincoln would have had to COMPENSATE the slave owners for the expropriation of their human property. This was never even envisioned.
• There is no Article II power even remotely covering such an outrageous usurpation of power.
• If the EP had been effective, there woslavery is over' atually end slavery on teh date signed? uld have been no reason to pass the 13th Amendment.

While it is interesting and sad to note that some slaves were not actually freed with the others, Juneteenth is a queer date to choose for a celebration of the end of slavery.

Would a legal judgement, a law stating 'Slavery is over' actually stop all slavery on the date it was signed into law? legally, yes. In reality no.

SO could you spell out in more precise language wtf you are trying to claim?

 

[1srelluc]

Seriously. What Juneteeth is actually about is commemorating the day when the Republicans finally drove a stake into the heart of the Democrat- controlled slave trade.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Juneteenth is designed as a replacement for the obsolescence of Father’s Day among blacks.