Kalam, I'm shocked! Is that any way for a good slave to talk? By the way, why are you a slave, Kalam? That's something I'd like to understand better, and you seem reticent to talk about it. Aren't you proud to be a good slave?
what the hell are you talking about?
Kalam, I'm shocked! Is that any way for a good slave to talk? By the way, why are you a slave, Kalam? That's something I'd like to understand better, and you seem reticent to talk about it. Aren't you proud to be a good slave?
what the hell are you talking about?
He and Mr. Fitnah appear to suffer from the same mental disability. I never thought that I'd see a more serious case than Mr. Fitnah, but then this tool came along...
Kalam, I'm shocked! Is that any way for a good slave to talk? By the way, why are you a slave, Kalam? That's something I'd like to understand better, and you seem reticent to talk about it. Aren't you proud to be a good slave?
what the hell are you talking about?
You are the tool that anyone can use to reveal Islams nature.Kalam, I'm shocked! Is that any way for a good slave to talk? By the way, why are you a slave, Kalam? That's something I'd like to understand better, and you seem reticent to talk about it. Aren't you proud to be a good slave?
what the hell are you talking about?
He and Mr. Fitnah appear to suffer from the same mental disability. I never thought that I'd see a more serious case than Mr. Fitnah, but then this tool came along...
Kalam, I'm shocked! Is that any way for a good slave to talk? By the way, why are you a slave, Kalam? That's something I'd like to understand better, and you seem reticent to talk about it. Aren't you proud to be a good slave?
what the hell are you talking about?
Sharia. It is the law of slavery, in which some slaves are "more equal" than other slaves:
"You have indeed in the Messenger of God (Muhammad) a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is God and the Final Day." —Quran 33:21
Hadith, Sahih Bukhari
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 622: Narrated Anas:
"I am Allah's Slave and His Apostle." —Muhammad
Volume 6, Book 60, Number 360: Narrated Al-Mughira:
"Shouldn't I be a thankful slave (of Allah)?" —Muhammad
Volume 6, Book 60, Number 361: Narrated Aisha:
"Shouldn't I love to be a thankful slave (of Allah)?" —Muhammad
Volume 1, Book 12, Number 794: Narrated Shaqlq bin Salama:
"I testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and I also testify that Muhammad is His slave and His Apostle." —Muhammad
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 297: Narrated Abu Huraira:
"I testify that I am Allah's Slave and His Apostle." —Muhammad
Volume 4, Book 55, Number 568: Narrated Ibn Abbas:
[To Allah] "They are Your slaves And if You forgive them, Verily you, only You are the All-Mighty, the All-Wise." —Muhammad
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 108: Narrated Mu'adh:
"Allah's right on His slaves is that they should worship Him (Alone) and should not worship any besides Him. And slave's right on Allah is that He should not punish him who worships none besides Him." —Muhammad
Volume 1, Book 12, Number 794: Narrated Shaqlq bin Salama:
"Peace be on us and on the true pious slaves of Allah." —Muhammad
Volume 1, Book 12, Number 807: Narrated Zaid bin Khalid Al-Juhani:
"Allah has said, 'In this morning some of my slaves remained as true believers and some became non-believers.'" —Muhammad
Volume 9, Book 93, Number 595: Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah said, 'If My slave loves the meeting with Me, I too love the meeting with him; and if he dislikes the meeting with Me, I too dislike the meeting with him.'" —Muhammad
Volume 9, Book 93, Number 596: Narrated Abu Huraira:
"Allah said, 'I am to my slave as he thinks of Me.'" —Muhammad
Volume 6, Book 60, Number 373: Narrated Abu Huraira:
"Allah said to Paradise, 'You are My Mercy which I bestow on whoever I wish of my servants.' Then Allah said to the (Hell) Fire, 'You are my (means of) punishment by which I punish whoever I wish of my slaves.'" —Muhammad
Volume 4, Book 54, Number 467: Narrated Abu Huraira:
"Allah said, 'I have prepared for My Pious slaves things which have never been seen by an eye, or heard by an ear, or imagined by a human being.'" —Muhammad
Volume 2, Book 21, Number 221: Narrated Ibn Abbas:
"O Allah ! I surrender (my will) to You." —Muhammad
In order to have access to the privileged parts of Sharia law, one has to submit to slavery and announce it publicly. Non-slaves—those who assert their own will and determination and freedom of choice in matters of religion and speech—are relegated by Sharia law to a sub-class. A key part of the public statement required to claim the privileged state of slavery under Sharia is to profess that all other men also must be made into slaves:
"I bear witness that there is no deity (none truly to be worshipped) but Allah..." —Shahada
That's a reflection of this order from the Quran:
"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (Submission to Allah), Never will it be accepted of him." —Quran 3:85
So I've asked repeatedly of Kalam why he elected to become a slave. He doesn't seem to want to answer.
Because you didn't ask me to.
It has been explained that the jizya is levied on non-Muslim males of fighting age in exchange for exemption from military service. If you're attempting to equate taxation with raping the resources of conquered territories, you'll have to provide some evidence beyond your usual fare of insipid assumptions and dishonest statements.
Please offer specific evidence of me "misrepresenting" anything in this discussion.
Incorrect. His rule occurred during a long period of stagnation and directly after the empire lost significant territorial holdings to Russia. When you insist on misrepresenting reality in an attempt to make it conform to your preconceptions, you are bound to make wildly inaccurate statements like this.
It didn't last because his successors didn't adhere to Shari'ah.
Evidence of anything like this occurring?
Source?
Actually, he said that they would "sacrifice" themselves, meaning that they would make sacrifices to repay the Jama'at for their help in the future.
I suppose Christianity doesn't inspire the same feeling of brotherhood in its followers.
Can you provide evidence of this, or are you lying out of your ass again?
Wow.
That's because you're reading the Bible in translation. 'Abd can be rendered as either "slave" or "servant" depending on the translator's preference. This probably extends to Hebrew as well. 'Abd ul-Masih (Slave of the Messiah) is a Christian name.
Don't let any of this hinder you from continuing to make reckless assumptions, though
Because you didn't ask me to.
It has been explained that the jizya is levied on non-Muslim males of fighting age in exchange for exemption from military service. If you're attempting to equate taxation with raping the resources of conquered territories, you'll have to provide some evidence beyond your usual fare of insipid assumptions and dishonest statements.
Please offer specific evidence of me "misrepresenting" anything in this discussion.
Incorrect. His rule occurred during a long period of stagnation and directly after the empire lost significant territorial holdings to Russia. When you insist on misrepresenting reality in an attempt to make it conform to your preconceptions, you are bound to make wildly inaccurate statements like this.
It didn't last because his successors didn't adhere to Shari'ah.
Evidence of anything like this occurring?
I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that you didn't bother confirming the accuracy of those "excerpts" after you cut and pasted them from the propaganda site du jour.
Source?
Of course. If a Muslim does anything bad, it's because of his religion. If he does anything good, he's "deceiving" you. You are truly an idiot.
Actually, he said that they would "sacrifice" themselves, meaning that they would make sacrifices to repay the Jama'at for their help in the future.
I suppose Christianity doesn't inspire the same feeling of brotherhood in its followers.
Can you provide evidence of this, or are you lying out of your ass again?
Wow.
Here, you imply that your knowledge of Islam is greater than mine, that I'm somehow misrepresenting it to you, and that I don't actually follow the religion.
This type of arrogance and immense dishonesty seems to be typical of Christian critics of the religion. Perhaps I should begin associating those traits with Christians in general, eh?
Come back when you can discuss something without lying and assuming that you know more about it than a person who lives it every day.
You aren't looking for real answers, you're looking to have your preconceived notions about Islam confirmed. That's why you seem willing to believe anything negative about the religion without bothering to confirm it; that's why you read through articles, ignore everything positive, and attempt to distort the truth in such a way that it appears to support your claims. That's a dishonest way to carry on a discussion.
Yet you said nothing about any of them and chose to focus instead on the article about Saudi Arabia. Even then, you ignored the fact that it is the most generous country per capita and attempted to make some silly nonsense up about their aid to non-Muslims being a form of "deception."
You've made it more than clear that Muslims can do nothing positive as far as you're concerned.
No, you're doing that on your own.
I'm not an expert or a scholar. I'm an ordinary Muslim who takes an active interest in studying his religion and I happen to know more about it than other people who post here on a regular basis.
Then perhaps you should point me to any questions I haven't answered to your satisfaction.
Symbolically, it represents their acceptance of God's law as zakah does for Muslims. Practically, it grants exemption from service. That's why it's taken from males of fighting age. It seems fairly obvious that a tax taken from that specific demographic serves that specific purpose.
1. Define "equal rights."
The kuffar, as always...
Then why bother posting it?
Because leaders deviated from the model society established by the Rashidun. The end of the Rashidun Caliphate marked the end of Shari'i governance for the most part, because the Umayyads established hereditary rule. In order for Shari'ah to exist perpetually, leaders must be chosen by the Ummah rather than being given power as a birthright. Leaders who are born into power are not necessarily qualified, are less connected to their followers, and are more likely to be corrupt. The Ottomans had the same problem. That's why Shari'ah among the Umayyads and the Ottomans never lasted beyond the reign of one ruler.
I wouldn't expect it to make sense to someone who admits that their understanding of history is based on speculation...
Why? Because of an amalgam of political, economic, and historical reasons that cannot be explained in a single post. It has little to do with our discussion.
Your criteria for "failure" is completely arbitrary and was concocted solely to discredit Islam. How is anyone supposed to explain the successes of something to you when your expectations are completely unrealistic?
Some are small, out-of-context excerpts from much longer and more nuanced passages. Others are inaccurate summaries of verses that say something else entirely. What's the point of attempting to explain the truth to someone credulous enough to believe these things in the first place?
Your questions are phrased negatively and generally contain assumptions, which makes it clear to me that you're more interested in trying to prove a point than you are in actually learning anything.
It won't arrive in the US, and if it does US states (as well as large portions of the military) will start declaring independence from Washington D.C. and the Supreme court as they are violating the US constitution. Now that would be the day.
