COVID "mortality rate" really climbed

WTH_Progs? · Apr 19, 2020

Course we don't know what the true rate is, the mortality rate is well overstated. This only the mortality rate for confirmed cases.

Countries	Cases	Deaths	Cases 1M pop	Deaths 1M pop	Recovery Rate	Mortality rate	New cases to total cases
Bahamas	55	9	140	23	18.18%	16.36%	1.82%
Sudan	66	10	2	0.2	9.09%	15.15%	50.00%
Belgium	37,183	5,453	3,208	471	22.45%	14.67%	2.81%
Algeria	2,534	367	58	8	35.28%	14.48%	4.58%
Sint Maarten	64	9	1,493	210	18.75%	14.06%	10.94%
UK	114,217	15,464	1,682	228	#VALUE!	13.54%	4.84%
Italy	175,925	23,227	2,910	384	25.54%	13.20%	1.98%
Antigua and Barbuda	23	3	235	31	13.04%	13.04%	0.00%
France	151,793	19,323	2,325	296	23.71%	12.73%	2.52%
Zimbabwe	25	3	2	0.2	8.00%	12.00%	4.00%
Netherlands	31,589	3,601	1,844	210	0.79%	11.40%	3.61%
Belize	18	2	45	5	0.00%	11.11%	0.00%
Sweden	13,822	1,511	1,369	150	3.98%	10.93%	4.38%
Spain	194,416	20,043	4,158	429	38.47%	10.31%	1.84%
Honduras	457	46	46	5	2.19%	10.07%	3.28%
Hungary	1,834	172	190	18	12.60%	9.38%	3.87%
San Marino	455	39	13,410	1,149	13.19%	8.57%	4.40%
Indonesia	6,248	535	23	2	10.10%	8.56%	5.20%
Angola	24	2	0.7	0.06	25.00%	8.33%	20.83%
DRC	307	25	3	0.3	8.47%	8.14%	6.51%
Mexico	6,875	546	53	4	30.91%	7.94%	8.41%
Egypt	3,032	224	30	2	23.12%	7.39%	6.20%
Martinique	163	12	434	32	44.79%	7.36%	3.07%
World	2,330,766	160,047	299	20.5	25.59%	6.87%	3.51%
Haiti	44	3	4	0.3	0.00%	6.82%	2.27%
Barbados	75	5	261	17	22.67%	6.67%	0.00%
Philippines	6,087	397	56	4	8.48%	6.52%	3.43%
Brazil	36,722	2,361	173	11	38.20%	6.43%	8.28%
Burkina Faso	565	36	27	2	56.81%	6.37%	1.42%
Bolivia	493	31	42	3	6.29%	6.29%	5.68%
Iran	80,868	5,031	963	60	69.23%	6.22%	1.70%
Bermuda	83	5	1,333	80	42.17%	6.02%	0.00%
Mali	216	13	11	0.6	18.98%	6.02%	20.83%
Togo	84	5	10	0.6	58.33%	5.95%	1.19%
China	82,719	4,632	57	3	93.12%	5.60%	0.03%
Iraq	1,513	82	38	2	62.99%	5.42%	2.05%
Saint Martin	37	2	957	52	51.35%	5.41%	5.41%
Guadeloupe	148	8	370	20	49.32%	5.41%	2.03%
Slovenia	1,317	70	633	34	14.43%	5.32%	0.99%
USA	738,792	39,014	2,232	118	9.24%	5.28%	3.93%
Somalia	135	7	8	0.4	1.48%	5.19%	14.07%
Morocco	2,685	137	73	4	11.69%	5.10%	4.51%
Myanmar	98	5	2	0.09	5.10%	5.10%	10.20%
Ecuador	9,022	456	511	26	11.17%	5.05%	6.34%
Dominican Republic	4,335	217	400	20	7.20%	5.01%	4.82%
Romania	8,418	421	438	22	20.55%	5.00%	4.17%
Switzerland	27,404	1,368	3,166	158	62.40%	4.99%	1.19%
Andorra	704	35	9,111	453	29.12%	4.97%	1.14%
Greece	2,235	110	214	11	12.04%	4.92%	0.49%
Denmark	7,242	346	1,250	60	53.12%	4.78%	2.33%
Albania	548	26	190	9	55.11%	4.74%	1.64%
Bulgaria	878	41	126	6	17.43%	4.67%	3.64%
Argentina	2,839	132	63	3	24.13%	4.65%	5.99%
Colombia	3,621	166	71	3	19.08%	4.58%	5.03%
Kenya	262	12	5	0.2	22.90%	4.58%	6.11%
Eswatini	22	1	19	0.9	36.36%	4.55%	27.27%
Canada	33,383	1,470	885	39	33.57%	4.40%	4.36%
Channel Islands	484	21	2,784	121	15.08%	4.34%	2.89%
Tunisia	866	37	73	3	4.97%	4.27%	0.23%
North Macedonia	1,170	49	562	24	14.02%	4.19%	4.53%
Cameroon	1,017	42	38	2	29.99%	4.13%	2.06%
Poland	8,742	347	231	9	11.22%	3.97%	4.15%
Venezuela	227	9	8	0.3	51.54%	3.96%	10.13%
Paraguay	202	8	28	1	17.33%	3.96%	1.49%
Bangladesh	2,144	84	13	0.5	3.08%	3.92%	14.27%
Ireland	14,758	571	2,989	116	0.52%	3.87%	5.27%
Bosnia and Herzegovina	1,268	47	386	14	26.66%	3.71%	4.26%
El Salvador	190	7	29	1	22.63%	3.68%	6.84%
Zambia	57	2	3	0.1	57.89%	3.51%	8.77%
Nigeria	542	19	3	0.09	30.63%	3.51%	9.04%
Portugal	19,685	687	1,931	67	3.10%	3.49%	3.37%
Cuba	986	32	87	3	23.02%	3.25%	6.39%
Afghanistan	933	30	24	0.8	12.00%	3.22%	2.89%
India	16,365	521	12	0.4	15.05%	3.18%	12.30%
Germany	143,724	4,538	1,715	54	59.42%	3.16%	1.62%
Lebanon	672	21	98	3	14.73%	3.13%	0.60%
Jamaica	163	5	55	2	15.34%	3.07%	12.27%
Austria	14,671	443	1,629	49	69.62%	3.02%	0.52%
Guatemala	235	7	13	0.4	8.94%	2.98%	8.94%
Niger	639	19	26	0.8	17.68%	2.97%	1.88%
Benin	35	1	3	0.08	51.43%	2.86%	0.00%
Ethiopia	105	3	0.9	0.03	15.24%	2.86%	8.57%
Mauritius	325	9	256	7	55.38%	2.77%	0.31%
Sri Lanka	254	7	12	0.3	33.86%	2.76%	3.94%
Panama	4,210	116	976	27	2.90%	2.76%	4.61%
Czechia	6,606	181	617	17	18.57%	2.74%	0.86%
Lithuania	1,239	33	455	12	18.40%	2.66%	7.26%
Ukraine	5,106	133	117	3	5.39%	2.60%	8.70%
Estonia	1,512	38	1,140	29	10.71%	2.51%	3.51%
Finland	3,681	90	664	16	46.18%	2.44%	5.22%
Moldova	2,351	57	583	14	16.63%	2.42%	3.70%
Peru	14,420	348	437	11	46.35%	2.41%	6.46%
Norway	7,036	164	1,298	30	0.45%	2.33%	1.41%
Turkey	82,329	1,890	976	22	12.70%	2.30%	4.59%
S. Korea	10,653	232	208	5	74.50%	2.18%	0.17%
Japan	10,296	222	81	2	10.38%	2.16%	4.94%
Croatia	1,832	39	446	9	33.57%	2.13%	0.98%
Aruba	96	2	899	19	45.83%	2.08%	0.00%
Luxembourg	3,537	72	5,650	115	16.99%	2.04%	1.61%
Isle of Man	297	6	3,493	71	60.61%	2.02%	2.02%
Serbia	5,994	117	686	13	10.63%	1.95%	5.07%
Pakistan	7,638	143	35	0.6	23.99%	1.87%	8.03%
Uruguay	517	9	149	3	57.64%	1.74%	2.90%
Cabo Verde	58	1	104	2	1.72%	1.72%	3.45%
Thailand	2,733	47	39	0.7	65.39%	1.72%	1.21%
South Africa	3,034	52	51	0.9	29.76%	1.71%	8.27%
Jordan	413	7	40	0.7	65.13%	1.69%	1.45%
Malaysia	5,305	88	164	3	58.47%	1.66%	1.02%
Montenegro	307	5	489	8	17.92%	1.63%	1.30%
Armenia	1,248	20	421	7	41.91%	1.60%	3.77%
Cyprus	761	12	630	10	10.38%	1.58%	1.45%
Mayotte	254	4	931	15	46.06%	1.57%	3.54%
Taiwan	398	6	17	0.3	44.72%	1.51%	0.75%
Azerbaijan	1,373	18	135	2	42.97%	1.31%	2.40%
Chile	9,730	126	509	7	41.47%	1.29%	4.91%
Israel	13,265	164	1,533	19	26.05%	1.24%	2.13%
Saudi Arabia	8,274	92	238	3	16.06%	1.11%	13.68%
Ghana	834	9	27	0.3	11.87%	1.08%	23.14%
Australia	6,586	70	258	3	63.27%	1.06%	0.80%
Kazakhstan	1,615	17	86	0.9	23.34%	1.05%	4.27%
Georgia	388	4	97	1	22.16%	1.03%	4.64%
Slovakia	1,089	11	199	2	19.56%	1.01%	3.67%
Ivory Coast	801	8	30	0.3	29.84%	1.00%	14.11%
Kyrgyzstan	506	5	78	0.8	25.69%	0.99%	3.36%
Belarus	4,779	45	506	5	7.16%	0.94%	0.00%
Senegal	350	3	21	0.2	60.29%	0.86%	2.29%
Russia	36,793	313	252	2	8.31%	0.85%	13.01%
New Zealand	1,422	11	295	2	60.97%	0.77%	0.91%
Brunei	137	1	313	2	82.48%	0.73%	0.73%
Malta	426	3	965	7	23.24%	0.70%	0.94%
Latvia	712	5	377	3	12.36%	0.70%	4.21%
Costa Rica	655	4	129	0.8	14.81%	0.61%	0.92%
Guinea	518	3	39	0.2	12.55%	0.58%	7.92%
Iceland	1,760	9	5,158	26	73.35%	0.51%	0.34%
Oman	1,180	6	231	1	14.92%	0.51%	9.41%
Palestine	418	2	82	0.4	16.51%	0.48%	3.83%
Bahrain	1,773	7	1,042	4	42.58%	0.39%	1.86%
Hong Kong	1,024	4	137	0.5	55.47%	0.39%	0.20%
Kuwait	1,751	6	410	1	15.99%	0.34%	5.31%
Uzbekistan	1,490	5	45	0.1	13.02%	0.34%	5.70%
Singapore	5,992	11	1,024	2	12.35%	0.18%	15.72%
Qatar	5,008	8	1,738	3	10.18%	0.16%	6.89%
Chad	33		2		24.24%	0.00%	18.18%
Maldives	35		65		45.71%	0.00%	17.14%
Sierra Leone	30		4		0.00%	0.00%	13.33%
Eritrea	39		11		7.69%	0.00%	10.26%
Guinea-Bissau	46		23		0.00%	0.00%	6.52%
Nepal	31		1		9.68%	0.00%	3.23%
Mozambique	35		1		11.43%	0.00%	2.86%
Madagascar	120		4		29.17%	0.00%	2.50%
Réunion	407		455		58.23%	0.00%	1.23%
Rwanda	144		11		47.92%	0.00%	0.69%
Anguilla	3		200		33.33%	0.00%	0.00%

Billy_Bob · Apr 19, 2020

Until randomized testing of anti-bodies is done, the rate is meaningless. Until we know how may were truly infected (the denominator used to make this calculation) we are only guessing.

KissMy · Apr 19, 2020

We are actually seeing about half the iceberg. After testing almost the entire aircraft carrier, only 60% of healthy sailors were without symptoms. So 50% or fewer citizens will be asymptomatic.

Billy_Kinetta · Apr 19, 2020

They're mixing non-C19 deaths and seasonal flu casualties into one pot.

aaronleland · Apr 19, 2020

We'll probably never know the real numbers, because so many people are asymptomatic. I'd venture a guess that at this point most of us have been infected.

Aletheia4u · Apr 19, 2020

Vladimir Putin: Russia coronavirus outbreak under ‘full control’

The coronavirus outbreak in Russia is under “full control,” President Vladimir Putin said Sunday, despite the country having reported a record rise in daily cases overnight of the highly contagious virus.

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esalla · Apr 19, 2020

WTH_Progs? said:
Course we don't know what the true rate is, the mortality rate is well overstated. This only the mortality rate for confirmed cases.

Countries Cases Deaths Cases 1M pop Deaths 1M pop Recovery Rate Mortality rate New cases to total cases
Bahamas 55 9 140 23
18.18%
16.36%
1.82%
Sudan 66 10 2 0.2
9.09%
15.15%
50.00%
Belgium 37,183 5,453 3,208 471
22.45%
14.67%
2.81%
Algeria 2,534 367 58 8
35.28%
14.48%
4.58%
Sint Maarten 64 9 1,493 210
18.75%
14.06%
10.94%
UK 114,217 15,464 1,682 228
#VALUE!
13.54%
4.84%
Italy 175,925 23,227 2,910 384
25.54%
13.20%
1.98%
Antigua and Barbuda 23 3 235 31
13.04%
13.04%
0.00%
France 151,793 19,323 2,325 296
23.71%
12.73%
2.52%
Zimbabwe 25 3 2 0.2
8.00%
12.00%
4.00%
Netherlands 31,589 3,601 1,844 210
0.79%
11.40%
3.61%
Belize 18 2 45 5
0.00%
11.11%
0.00%
Sweden 13,822 1,511 1,369 150
3.98%
10.93%
4.38%
Spain 194,416 20,043 4,158 429
38.47%
10.31%
1.84%
Honduras 457 46 46 5
2.19%
10.07%
3.28%
Hungary 1,834 172 190 18
12.60%
9.38%
3.87%
San Marino 455 39 13,410 1,149
13.19%
8.57%
4.40%
Indonesia 6,248 535 23 2
10.10%
8.56%
5.20%
Angola 24 2 0.7 0.06
25.00%
8.33%
20.83%
DRC 307 25 3 0.3
8.47%
8.14%
6.51%
Mexico 6,875 546 53 4
30.91%
7.94%
8.41%
Egypt 3,032 224 30 2
23.12%
7.39%
6.20%
Martinique 163 12 434 32
44.79%
7.36%
3.07%
World 2,330,766 160,047 299 20.5
25.59%
6.87%
3.51%
Haiti 44 3 4 0.3
0.00%
6.82%
2.27%
Barbados 75 5 261 17
22.67%
6.67%
0.00%
Philippines 6,087 397 56 4
8.48%
6.52%
3.43%
Brazil 36,722 2,361 173 11
38.20%
6.43%
8.28%
Burkina Faso 565 36 27 2
56.81%
6.37%
1.42%
Bolivia 493 31 42 3
6.29%
6.29%
5.68%
Iran 80,868 5,031 963 60
69.23%
6.22%
1.70%
Bermuda 83 5 1,333 80
42.17%
6.02%
0.00%
Mali 216 13 11 0.6
18.98%
6.02%
20.83%
Togo 84 5 10 0.6
58.33%
5.95%
1.19%
China 82,719 4,632 57 3
93.12%
5.60%
0.03%
Iraq 1,513 82 38 2
62.99%
5.42%
2.05%
Saint Martin 37 2 957 52
51.35%
5.41%
5.41%
Guadeloupe 148 8 370 20
49.32%
5.41%
2.03%
Slovenia 1,317 70 633 34
14.43%
5.32%
0.99%
USA 738,792 39,014 2,232 118
9.24%
5.28%
3.93%
Somalia 135 7 8 0.4
1.48%
5.19%
14.07%
Morocco 2,685 137 73 4
11.69%
5.10%
4.51%
Myanmar 98 5 2 0.09
5.10%
5.10%
10.20%
Ecuador 9,022 456 511 26
11.17%
5.05%
6.34%
Dominican Republic 4,335 217 400 20
7.20%
5.01%
4.82%
Romania 8,418 421 438 22
20.55%
5.00%
4.17%
Switzerland 27,404 1,368 3,166 158
62.40%
4.99%
1.19%
Andorra 704 35 9,111 453
29.12%
4.97%
1.14%
Greece 2,235 110 214 11
12.04%
4.92%
0.49%
Denmark 7,242 346 1,250 60
53.12%
4.78%
2.33%
Albania 548 26 190 9
55.11%
4.74%
1.64%
Bulgaria 878 41 126 6
17.43%
4.67%
3.64%
Argentina 2,839 132 63 3
24.13%
4.65%
5.99%
Colombia 3,621 166 71 3
19.08%
4.58%
5.03%
Kenya 262 12 5 0.2
22.90%
4.58%
6.11%
Eswatini 22 1 19 0.9
36.36%
4.55%
27.27%
Canada 33,383 1,470 885 39
33.57%
4.40%
4.36%
Channel Islands 484 21 2,784 121
15.08%
4.34%
2.89%
Tunisia 866 37 73 3
4.97%
4.27%
0.23%
North Macedonia 1,170 49 562 24
14.02%
4.19%
4.53%
Cameroon 1,017 42 38 2
29.99%
4.13%
2.06%
Poland 8,742 347 231 9
11.22%
3.97%
4.15%
Venezuela 227 9 8 0.3
51.54%
3.96%
10.13%
Paraguay 202 8 28 1
17.33%
3.96%
1.49%
Bangladesh 2,144 84 13 0.5
3.08%
3.92%
14.27%
Ireland 14,758 571 2,989 116
0.52%
3.87%
5.27%
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1,268 47 386 14
26.66%
3.71%
4.26%
El Salvador 190 7 29 1
22.63%
3.68%
6.84%
Zambia 57 2 3 0.1
57.89%
3.51%
8.77%
Nigeria 542 19 3 0.09
30.63%
3.51%
9.04%
Portugal 19,685 687 1,931 67
3.10%
3.49%
3.37%
Cuba 986 32 87 3
23.02%
3.25%
6.39%
Afghanistan 933 30 24 0.8
12.00%
3.22%
2.89%
India 16,365 521 12 0.4
15.05%
3.18%
12.30%
Germany 143,724 4,538 1,715 54
59.42%
3.16%
1.62%
Lebanon 672 21 98 3
14.73%
3.13%
0.60%
Jamaica 163 5 55 2
15.34%
3.07%
12.27%
Austria 14,671 443 1,629 49
69.62%
3.02%
0.52%
Guatemala 235 7 13 0.4
8.94%
2.98%
8.94%
Niger 639 19 26 0.8
17.68%
2.97%
1.88%
Benin 35 1 3 0.08
51.43%
2.86%
0.00%
Ethiopia 105 3 0.9 0.03
15.24%
2.86%
8.57%
Mauritius 325 9 256 7
55.38%
2.77%
0.31%
Sri Lanka 254 7 12 0.3
33.86%
2.76%
3.94%
Panama 4,210 116 976 27
2.90%
2.76%
4.61%
Czechia 6,606 181 617 17
18.57%
2.74%
0.86%
Lithuania 1,239 33 455 12
18.40%
2.66%
7.26%
Ukraine 5,106 133 117 3
5.39%
2.60%
8.70%
Estonia 1,512 38 1,140 29
10.71%
2.51%
3.51%
Finland 3,681 90 664 16
46.18%
2.44%
5.22%
Moldova 2,351 57 583 14
16.63%
2.42%
3.70%
Peru 14,420 348 437 11
46.35%
2.41%
6.46%
Norway 7,036 164 1,298 30
0.45%
2.33%
1.41%
Turkey 82,329 1,890 976 22
12.70%
2.30%
4.59%
S. Korea 10,653 232 208 5
74.50%
2.18%
0.17%
Japan 10,296 222 81 2
10.38%
2.16%
4.94%
Croatia 1,832 39 446 9
33.57%
2.13%
0.98%
Aruba 96 2 899 19
45.83%
2.08%
0.00%
Luxembourg 3,537 72 5,650 115
16.99%
2.04%
1.61%
Isle of Man 297 6 3,493 71
60.61%
2.02%
2.02%
Serbia 5,994 117 686 13
10.63%
1.95%
5.07%
Pakistan 7,638 143 35 0.6
23.99%
1.87%
8.03%
Uruguay 517 9 149 3
57.64%
1.74%
2.90%
Cabo Verde 58 1 104 2
1.72%
1.72%
3.45%
Thailand 2,733 47 39 0.7
65.39%
1.72%
1.21%
South Africa 3,034 52 51 0.9
29.76%
1.71%
8.27%
Jordan 413 7 40 0.7
65.13%
1.69%
1.45%
Malaysia 5,305 88 164 3
58.47%
1.66%
1.02%
Montenegro 307 5 489 8
17.92%
1.63%
1.30%
Armenia 1,248 20 421 7
41.91%
1.60%
3.77%
Cyprus 761 12 630 10
10.38%
1.58%
1.45%
Mayotte 254 4 931 15
46.06%
1.57%
3.54%
Taiwan 398 6 17 0.3
44.72%
1.51%
0.75%
Azerbaijan 1,373 18 135 2
42.97%
1.31%
2.40%
Chile 9,730 126 509 7
41.47%
1.29%
4.91%
Israel 13,265 164 1,533 19
26.05%
1.24%
2.13%
Saudi Arabia 8,274 92 238 3
16.06%
1.11%
13.68%
Ghana 834 9 27 0.3
11.87%
1.08%
23.14%
Australia 6,586 70 258 3
63.27%
1.06%
0.80%
Kazakhstan 1,615 17 86 0.9
23.34%
1.05%
4.27%
Georgia 388 4 97 1
22.16%
1.03%
4.64%
Slovakia 1,089 11 199 2
19.56%
1.01%
3.67%
Ivory Coast 801 8 30 0.3
29.84%
1.00%
14.11%
Kyrgyzstan 506 5 78 0.8
25.69%
0.99%
3.36%
Belarus 4,779 45 506 5
7.16%
0.94%
0.00%
Senegal 350 3 21 0.2
60.29%
0.86%
2.29%
Russia 36,793 313 252 2
8.31%
0.85%
13.01%
New Zealand 1,422 11 295 2
60.97%
0.77%
0.91%
Brunei 137 1 313 2
82.48%
0.73%
0.73%
Malta 426 3 965 7
23.24%
0.70%
0.94%
Latvia 712 5 377 3
12.36%
0.70%
4.21%
Costa Rica 655 4 129 0.8
14.81%
0.61%
0.92%
Guinea 518 3 39 0.2
12.55%
0.58%
7.92%
Iceland 1,760 9 5,158 26
73.35%
0.51%
0.34%
Oman 1,180 6 231 1
14.92%
0.51%
9.41%
Palestine 418 2 82 0.4
16.51%
0.48%
3.83%
Bahrain 1,773 7 1,042 4
42.58%
0.39%
1.86%
Hong Kong 1,024 4 137 0.5
55.47%
0.39%
0.20%
Kuwait 1,751 6 410 1
15.99%
0.34%
5.31%
Uzbekistan 1,490 5 45 0.1
13.02%
0.34%
5.70%
Singapore 5,992 11 1,024 2
12.35%
0.18%
15.72%
Qatar 5,008 8 1,738 3
10.18%
0.16%
6.89%
Chad 33 2
24.24%
0.00%
18.18%
Maldives 35 65
45.71%
0.00%
17.14%
Sierra Leone 30 4
0.00%
0.00%
13.33%
Eritrea 39 11
7.69%
0.00%
10.26%
Guinea-Bissau 46 23
0.00%
0.00%
6.52%
Nepal 31 1
9.68%
0.00%
3.23%
Mozambique 35 1
11.43%
0.00%
2.86%
Madagascar 120 4
29.17%
0.00%
2.50%
Réunion 407 455
58.23%
0.00%
1.23%
Rwanda 144 11
47.92%
0.00%
0.69%
Anguilla 3 200
33.33%
0.00%
0.00%

Same as the flu except more die from the flu

DrLove · Apr 19, 2020

Sorry - The mortality rate is grossly UNDERcounted.

Fact check: Is US coronavirus death toll inflated? Experts agree it's likely the opposite

Theories have circulated that the government’s system for counting COVID-19 deaths is resulting in an inflation of the totals. This is false.

www.usatoday.com

Fed Starving · Apr 19, 2020

I imagine the mortality rate from murder will surpass the Covid-19 death rate. The economy will take time to recover, higher unemployment equals higher crime, people will lose their housing because they were unemployed, adding to the situation.

KissMy · Apr 19, 2020

The true mortality rate will be over 3% which is scary high. That would be 4 million dead US citizens if we did nothing.

KissMy · Apr 19, 2020

aaronleland said:
We'll probably never know the real numbers, because so many people are asymptomatic. I'd venture a guess that at this point most of us have been infected.

You are a fool. Only half the people are asymptomatic.

JimBowie1958 · Apr 19, 2020

Billy_Bob said:
Until randomized testing of anti-bodies is done, the rate is meaningless. Until we know how may were truly infected (the denominator used to make this calculation) we are only guessing.

Usually the rates for recovery and death are taken AFTER the disease has run its course, and years later.

As a result, the case count was basically a count of those who sought medical services for the disease and it was then recorded. How many people carry the flu virus every year without symptoms or just dont bother to get medical services for it? We dont know.

So this testing is kind of inflating the numbers a lot and that muddies the waters a bit.

Does a person who had the virus but no symptoms count as a 'recovered' patient when they were never a patient to begin with?

I dont know, but the partisan and ideological agendas that this disease is being manipulated to act as a PR vehicle is just incredible.

esalla · Apr 19, 2020

DrLove said:
Sorry - The mortality rate is grossly UNDERcounted.

Fact check: Is US coronavirus death toll inflated? Experts agree it's likely the opposite

Theories have circulated that the government’s system for counting COVID-19 deaths is resulting in an inflation of the totals. This is false.

www.usatoday.com

How can it be being undercounted when no one dies from anything else any more

RoshawnMarkwees · Apr 19, 2020

The logic suggests the death rate should climb and then recede after the illness because people have to get sick before they die.

Obiwan · Apr 19, 2020

DrLove said:
Sorry - The mortality rate is grossly UNDERcounted.

Fact check: Is US coronavirus death toll inflated? Experts agree it's likely the opposite

Theories have circulated that the government’s system for counting COVID-19 deaths is resulting in an inflation of the totals. This is false.

www.usatoday.com

So, if NY (which has a large number of "Covid 19 deaths") counts "suspected cases" (WITHOUT a positive test), what will they try to do to inflate the numbers next???

After Deaths At Home Spike In NYC, Officials Plan To Count Many As COVID-19

Officials say a sudden upsurge in deaths at home is likely due to COVID-19 and they are planning to add many of them to New York's death toll, even without confirmation by a laboratory.

www.npr.org

WTH_Progs? · Apr 19, 2020

KissMy said:
The true mortality rate will be over 3% which is scary high. That would be 4 million dead US citizens if we did nothing.

Why is that?

COVID "mortality rate" really climbed

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