COVID is just like the flu.

[berg80]

They are indeed way past fuck in gullibility. They are so fucking braindead they seem to actually think covid cured the flu

It's exhausting dealing with people like yourself you can't comprehend simple concepts. Of course COVID didn't cure the flu. COVID protocols and increased flu shots kept the numbers way down.

What Is the Flu?

Learn more from WebMD about the flu, including causes, symptoms, types, risk factors, treatment, and prevention.

www.webmd.com

Studies have shown they worked to reduce cases of COVID.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article247315954.html

I'm embarrassed for you that I have to explain this.

 

[KissMy]

Covid is just like the flu for most people.

I bet if you gave antibody tests to every American we would find an infection rate in excess of 80%
Do you know what that would do to your precious death rate?
And don't you find it odd that we only had a handful of actual flu cases? It's like covid cured all diseases.

You people are gullible as fuck

You are way off, because they did test everyone in certain areas & found that less than 37% of the population is asymptomatic. But you idiots cling to the 10 times more than reported number had it that Trump pulled out of his ass.

If 80% already had covid, then how did my 23 year old niece who has been tending bar in Florida for over a year, just catch it 2 weeks ago? She in a very fit & healthy gymnast, but has been down with covid for 2 weeks now.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Covid is just like the flu for most people.

I bet if you gave antibody tests to every American we would find an infection rate in excess of 80%
Do you know what that would do to your precious death rate?
And don't you find it odd that we only had a handful of actual flu cases? It's like covid cured all diseases.

You people are gullible as fuck

You are way off, because they did test everyone in certain areas & found that less than 37% of the population is asymptomatic. But you idiots cling to the 10 times more than reported number had it that Trump pulled out of his ass.

If 80% already had covid, then how did my 23 year old niece who has been tending bar in Florida for over a year, just catch it 2 weeks ago? She in a very fit & healthy gymnast, but has been down with covid for 2 weeks now.

The same way people get other illnesses more than once.

 

[KissMy]

Covid is just like the flu for most people.

I bet if you gave antibody tests to every American we would find an infection rate in excess of 80%
Do you know what that would do to your precious death rate?
And don't you find it odd that we only had a handful of actual flu cases? It's like covid cured all diseases.

You people are gullible as fuck

You are way off, because they did test everyone in certain areas & found that less than 37% of the population is asymptomatic. But you idiots cling to the 10 times more than reported number had it that Trump pulled out of his ass.

If 80% already had covid, then how did my 23 year old niece who has been tending bar in Florida for over a year, just catch it 2 weeks ago? She in a very fit & healthy gymnast, but has been down with covid for 2 weeks now.

The same way people get other illnesses more than once.

You just pulled that out of your ass, because only 10% of US citizens have been infected by covid-19 & only 1/3rd didn't get sick from it.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Remember when that was one of the WH talking points in the early stages of the pandemic? No reason to panic. COVID will go away when the weather gets warm. It's all under control.

Turns out, they were wrong..........in too many ways to discuss. One of the more demonstrably provable things they were wrong about was the comparison to the flu.

We wiped out the flu this year. Could we do it again?

That's what happens to influenza type viruses when people wear masks and practice social distancing. Unfortunately, COVID is a highly transmissible virus. More so than the regular flu.

The point being the COVID protocols dismissed as ineffective, infringements on freedom, a waste of time by conservatives.........they work. And if we had not implemented them, if we had not locked down the economy for a while, the infection rate and death toll would be far worse than it is.

Yeah, "like the flu", a Monkey is like a human. It's not a human, it's different, but there are things that are similar.

However Covid has killed way more people than the flu. 61,000 was the highest deaths year for the flu under Trump.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Wow, what a miracle!

Not really. Lower flu cases comes as a direct result of less social interaction and safety measures taken when people are in public. The things that prevented COVID from being far worse. The things conservatives referred to as infringements on their freedom. What the exact numbers would have looked like if Trump's top adviser, Scott Atlas, had his way are obviously hard to determine. But we can say there would be millions dead not hundreds of thousands.

Of course, exactly my point and the very reason your gullible blue lockdown states had the worst mortality rates in the country. Your "less social interaction" baloney backfired and merely cost millions of people their jobs. Good libber thinking!

 

[Lesh]

"gullible blue lockdown states" had high mortality because they got hammered hard and early...

In fact those same states have since had far lower rates of infection and death than dumbass states like South Dakota

And as Berg notes...the mitigation practices used for Covid virtually eliminated the flu. They were less effective against the more virulent and deadly covid bug but they were effective enough to keep the death numbers NOT in the millions

And no ...they didn't just reclassify flu as covid. Neither the numbers nor the symptoms support that stupid claim

 

[Rigby5]

Covid is just like the flu for most people.

I bet if you gave antibody tests to every American we would find an infection rate in excess of 80%
Do you know what that would do to your precious death rate?
And don't you find it odd that we only had a handful of actual flu cases? It's like covid cured all diseases.

You people are gullible as fuck

You are way off, because they did test everyone in certain areas & found that less than 37% of the population is asymptomatic. But you idiots cling to the 10 times more than reported number had it that Trump pulled out of his ass.

If 80% already had covid, then how did my 23 year old niece who has been tending bar in Florida for over a year, just catch it 2 weeks ago? She in a very fit & healthy gymnast, but has been down with covid for 2 weeks now.

Does not matter if only 40% are asymptomatic.
Those under 40 who get is have no more problem then ordinary flu in almost all cases.
The point is that if those under 40 had been asked to volunteer, then almost no one would have died because we could have wiped it out last March.
Eventually we are going to have to get 70% with immunity, and if we did it sooner, then very few would have died.
Only by "flattening the curve" for a year do you end up with the highest possible death total.

And 99% of the population can be immune while your niece can still get infected.
She could get infected by a recent tourist or immigrant even.

But covid itself is harmless.
If she is still sick, then the problem is not likely covid, but the over reaction by the immune system.
Its called a "cytokine storm".
Look it up.
And for most people, what helps is an immuno suppressant.
While quinine is good to prevent fevers, fluvoxamine is supposed to be the better treatment for anti inflammation.
The immune system essentially is an allergic reaction.
But only take things after discussion with her doctor.
Each case is too different to be able to bypass the local medical expert who knows the symptoms best.

 

[Rigby5]

Covid is just like the flu for most people.

I bet if you gave antibody tests to every American we would find an infection rate in excess of 80%
Do you know what that would do to your precious death rate?
And don't you find it odd that we only had a handful of actual flu cases? It's like covid cured all diseases.

You people are gullible as fuck

You are way off, because they did test everyone in certain areas & found that less than 37% of the population is asymptomatic. But you idiots cling to the 10 times more than reported number had it that Trump pulled out of his ass.

If 80% already had covid, then how did my 23 year old niece who has been tending bar in Florida for over a year, just catch it 2 weeks ago? She in a very fit & healthy gymnast, but has been down with covid for 2 weeks now.

The same way people get other illnesses more than once.

You just pulled that out of your ass, because only 10% of US citizens have been infected by covid-19 & only 1/3rd didn't get sick from it.

We don't know how many have been infected because we hardly test at all, and we only test those who are symptomatic.
But the Amish in Ohio and Pennsylvania have achieved herd immunity, with over 70% of the population being immune.
So we could have easily have achieved herd immunity and wiped out the virus last March if we had wanted to.
What studies of prisons, convents, barracks, etc. indicate is over half are inherently immune.
For example, almost all children are inherently immune.
And the lethality rate is not really 2% as Fauci claimed.
It is 5% for those over 70, but actually only about 0.15% for those under 40.
Which is why we should have protected the elderly by asking for volunteers for infection under 40.
Then it would have been gone last March.

 

[Rigby5]

"gullible blue lockdown states" had high mortality because they got hammered hard and early...

In fact those same states have since had far lower rates of infection and death than dumbass states like South Dakota

And as Berg notes...the mitigation practices used for Covid virtually eliminated the flu. They were less effective against the more virulent and deadly covid bug but they were effective enough to keep the death numbers NOT in the millions

And no ...they didn't just reclassify flu as covid. Neither the numbers nor the symptoms support that stupid claim

No, "flattening the curve" only reduces the rate of infection, but by preventing the spike, it conserves hosts to keeps the virus alive forever, which greatly increases the death total eventually.
Fauci only estimated millions of deaths if we went for herd immunity because he did not account for the fact over half the people, (like children), are already inherently immune, and that those under 40 years of age have 40 times less chance of dying from it than the elderly.
He over estimated by more than a factor of 200.
If we had gone for herd immunity last March, the death toll would have been only about 20,000 instead of half a million.
If not for the vaccine, then "flattening the curve" could have kept the virus alive for decades possibly.

 

[colfax_m]

So we could have easily have achieved herd immunity and wiped out the virus last March if we had wanted to.

By infecting massive swaths of the population, you generate more viral mutations and therefore much higher likelihood of generating variants that people aren’t immune to.

 

[Rigby5]

So we could have easily have achieved herd immunity and wiped out the virus last March if we had wanted to.

By infecting massive swaths of the population, you generate more viral mutations and therefore much higher likelihood of generating variants that people aren’t immune to.

Wrong.
First of all, they are not mutations, because mutations mean random damage, like from radiation.
Variants already exist, but are merely changing in % due to natural selection of evolution.
And the whole point of why "fattening the curve" is such a bad idea is that it deliberately gives the virus more TIME.
And it is TIME that caused more variations to become more deadly or resistant to antibodies.
The faster you get any epidemic over, the less likely it will have a chance to evolve into a worse strain, and the fewer total deaths you will have.

 

[sartre play]

Have No medical license, lots of different views. My choice follow as much as possible those with medical license,( no there not perfect) but they should at the very least know more about not getting or giving the virus than I do.

 

[Rigby5]

Have No medical license, lots of different views. My choice follow as much as possible those with medical license,( no there not perfect) but they should at the very least know more about not getting or giving the virus than I do.

But anyone can read historical accounts and learn as much as anyone about how epidemics work in general.
And obviously they die out since they have to find new hosts often, (every 12 days for covid), and eventually they run out of easily accessible local hosts.
So then everyone should see why "flattening the curve" is such a bad idea.
It holds down the early peak, but that essentially forces a conservation of hosts, so that then the virus will never run out locally, and will then become perpetual.
Flattening the curve takes any epidemic that would normally burn out in a month or 2, and deliberately make it last forever.

 

[colfax_m]

So we could have easily have achieved herd immunity and wiped out the virus last March if we had wanted to.

By infecting massive swaths of the population, you generate more viral mutations and therefore much higher likelihood of generating variants that people aren’t immune to.

Wrong.
First of all, they are not mutations, because mutations mean random damage, like from radiation.
Variants already exist, but are merely changing in % due to natural selection of evolution.
And the whole point of why "fattening the curve" is such a bad idea is that it deliberately gives the virus more TIME.
And it is TIME that caused more variations to become more deadly or resistant to antibodies.
The faster you get any epidemic over, the less likely it will have a chance to evolve into a worse strain, and the fewer total deaths you will have.

Hmm, what promotes more natural selection and evolution than many, many, many infections?

 

[MadChemist]

Remember when that was one of the WH talking points in the early stages of the pandemic? No reason to panic. COVID will go away when the weather gets warm. It's all under control.

Turns out, they were wrong..........in too many ways to discuss. One of the more demonstrably provable things they were wrong about was the comparison to the flu.

We wiped out the flu this year. Could we do it again?

That's what happens to influenza type viruses when people wear masks and practice social distancing. Unfortunately, COVID is a highly transmissible virus. More so than the regular flu.

The point being the COVID protocols dismissed as ineffective, infringements on freedom, a waste of time by conservatives.........they work. And if we had not implemented them, if we had not locked down the economy for a while, the infection rate and death toll would be far worse than it is.

Your last statement is simply an extrapolation on your part.

There is no way to confirm your last statement.

In fact, Sweden would say you are wrong.

 

[MadChemist]

Wow, what a miracle!

Not really. Lower flu cases comes as a direct result of less social interaction and safety measures taken when people are in public. The things that prevented COVID from being far worse. The things conservatives referred to as infringements on their freedom. What the exact numbers would have looked like if Trump's top adviser, Scott Atlas, had his way are obviously hard to determine. But we can say there would be millions dead not hundreds of thousands.

You can't say any such thing.

 

[Lastamender]

Remember when that was one of the WH talking points in the early stages of the pandemic? No reason to panic. COVID will go away when the weather gets warm. It's all under control.

Turns out, they were wrong..........in too many ways to discuss. One of the more demonstrably provable things they were wrong about was the comparison to the flu.

We wiped out the flu this year. Could we do it again?

That's what happens to influenza type viruses when people wear masks and practice social distancing. Unfortunately, COVID is a highly transmissible virus. More so than the regular flu.

The point being the COVID protocols dismissed as ineffective, infringements on freedom, a waste of time by conservatives.........they work. And if we had not implemented them, if we had not locked down the economy for a while, the infection rate and death toll would be far worse than it is.

It turns out everyone was wrong about Covid. We heard something every day. The only consistent thing was be very afraid. A 99.7% survival rate is not a killer disease.

 

[Flopper]

Remember when that was one of the WH talking points in the early stages of the pandemic? No reason to panic. COVID will go away when the weather gets warm. It's all under control.

Turns out, they were wrong..........in too many ways to discuss. One of the more demonstrably provable things they were wrong about was the comparison to the flu.

We wiped out the flu this year. Could we do it again?

That's what happens to influenza type viruses when people wear masks and practice social distancing. Unfortunately, COVID is a highly transmissible virus. More so than the regular flu.

The point being the COVID protocols dismissed as ineffective, infringements on freedom, a waste of time by conservatives.........they work. And if we had not implemented them, if we had not locked down the economy for a while, the infection rate and death toll would be far worse than it is.

The primary reason we had less FLU is not because doctors can't tell the difference. The Flu is much less contagious than Covid-19. Masks and social distancing work well to stop the spread of the Flu. As life get's back to normal and mask wearing and social distancing starts dying out, Flu will come back because it was really gone. The same will happen with Covid-19. We will never get enough people vaccinated to wipe it out, only to reduce the number cases and deaths such that is not seen as threat.

 

[Flopper]

Remember when that was one of the WH talking points in the early stages of the pandemic? No reason to panic. COVID will go away when the weather gets warm. It's all under control.

Turns out, they were wrong..........in too many ways to discuss. One of the more demonstrably provable things they were wrong about was the comparison to the flu.

We wiped out the flu this year. Could we do it again?

That's what happens to influenza type viruses when people wear masks and practice social distancing. Unfortunately, COVID is a highly transmissible virus. More so than the regular flu.

The point being the COVID protocols dismissed as ineffective, infringements on freedom, a waste of time by conservatives.........they work. And if we had not implemented them, if we had not locked down the economy for a while, the infection rate and death toll would be far worse than it is.

It turns out everyone was wrong about Covid. We heard something every day. The only consistent thing was be very afraid. A 99.7% survival rate is not a killer disease.

In the early stages of the epidemic in January and February, people were making educated and uneducated guesses because there was not enough good data. By April medical science had a good idea of what we were facing and how reduce the spread. It was the White House that was making claims that the virus would just go away by summer, by fall, and by election day. There was an election to be won and Covid-19 was a threat so it was downplayed which made preventing the spread more difficult.