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Covid-1984

2 May 2020 ~~ By Kellie J. Miller
A professor of mine at Princeton University once surveyed his classes and asked them how they would have responded to the unjust laws in Nazi Germany or the Jim Crow South. While history tells us that so few stood against these human rights violations, almost every student felt he would have volunteered to hide Jewish people in Nazi Germany or would have joined those marching for civil rights. I'd predict that most of these students would have also thought themselves one of the few to stand up for Japanese-Americans who were moved to internment camps during World War II.
Were these students all exceptional examples of independent thought and courage? Of course not. Rather, they exemplify two human realities: we have an amazing ability to overestimate our own courage and to believe we would think independently in the face of intense social pressure. If the vast majority were actually so wise and brave, so independent of mind and full of courage, how have there been so many human rights violations throughout history?
The reality is that most of us are not so independent-minded and courageous; rather, we are easily influenced by groupthink. Made famous by George Orwell in his novel 1984, groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational and dysfunctional decision-making outcome. The desire for cohesiveness produces a tendency to agree at all costs, minimizing conflicts and resulting in decisions made without critical evaluation. Groupthink occurs within government decision-making and also in smaller corporate settings. Successful organizations try to avoid it because it prevents a full analysis of difficult issues and results in poor decisions.
~~Snip~~
The expert models about COVID-19 have been wrong again and again. Initially estimating two million American deaths with social distancing measures in place, the IHME models have since been drastically revised twice to now estimate 60,000 American deaths. While COVID-19 is a serious virus that has already killed tens of thousands of Americans, data show that the overwhelming majority of people do not have a significant risk of dying from COVID-19. The recent Stanford antibody study estimates the fatality rate between 0.1 and 0.2 percent, 20 to 30 times lower than estimates that motivated lockdowns. The vast majority of these fatalities (99.2%) have an underlying illness. And based on a data analysis of the N.Y. area, young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19. Meanwhile, due to the COVID-19 response, many important preventative health care measures have been canceled, unemployment is soaring to Great Depression levels, and the Third World is at risk of massive famines — famines that, according to the U.N., could kill hundreds of millions of people.
When time passes and the hysteria recedes; when it becomes clear that fewer Americans died of COVID-19 than a variety of other addressable problems; and when an unprecedented number of Americans die deaths of despair, thanks in large part to the COVID-19 response, will this be our cobra-effect moment? And if it is, will we admit that we were swept up by the groupthink, pointing disapprovingly at dissenters? Or will we be like the students in my professor's class, still fooling ourselves into thinking we have the courage and independence of mind to stand up to a mob that we marched side by side with not so long ago?
It's not too late to break free and think about a different plan. Let's not be afraid of the dissenters. Let's not be afraid of the truth and where it might lead us.


Comment:
The news about “supporting” the Wuhan lab with $3.7 billion from the U.S. needs to be put in context.
When this is "over", and drugs found to combat the disease with a vaccine created the question is will this be swept under the rug by the despicable lamestream media, Who will be held accountable? Will the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats be held accountable for resisting the president's action and instilling fear among the citizens of America. Will anything be done about the shrill idiots who were complicit in fomenting the hysteria, and fear mongering, including the Doctor who did not approve of treating patients with inexpensive HCQ when nothing else was available to treat people infected with the Wu-Hu Flu.
In the end the Wuhan Covid-19 Flu will be added to the influenza virus that have been created and spread throughout the world by China.
The actions taken by President Trump have been correct to slow and overcome this pandemic by quarantine until a vaccine can be created.
The Virus has become the Political Weapon of 2020 by the PMS/DSA Democrat Left. What is clear is that blaming Trump has kept the nation divided unlike any other crisis including 9/11. Converting the virus into a talking point for the 2020 election demonstrates that PMS/DSA Democrats either really do not care about the people, or they are trying to convert the virus into a political weapon of 2020. Either way, this is the FIRST time in history where there has been some national crisis and the politicians failed to rally together.
With the election of Bush '43' civil discourse in political America was lost. Today there is no civil discourse at all within the halls of Congress or the media. In other words, it's all on Pelosi and Schumer. It's pretty much all a hysterical/childish madness they continually conduct, like a bunch of spoiled 3-year-olds fighting over space in a sandbox playpen, etc. Can we ever recover from their divisive actions?
In the end the media have failed reporters taking political sides in the political struggle, rather than remaining neutral and factual in their reporting.
 
The democratic party has always been fascist, it was, and remains totally committed to slavery, its campaign of enslavement cunningly tweaked over the last century into a far more sophisticated tactical weapon, certainly more so than when we were forced to kill hundreds of thousands of them in attempt to free southern blacks(we failed in this endeavor)! The truth is this, the vast majority of people living and breathing upon the earth, are perfectly content with being a slave, its in the ferociously individualistic minority, those who are not afraid to take action against bullies and tyranny, who form up any resistance to any totalitarian state.....
 
Covid-1984

2 May 2020 ~~ By Kellie J. Miller
A professor of mine at Princeton University once surveyed his classes and asked them how they would have responded to the unjust laws in Nazi Germany or the Jim Crow South. While history tells us that so few stood against these human rights violations, almost every student felt he would have volunteered to hide Jewish people in Nazi Germany or would have joined those marching for civil rights. I'd predict that most of these students would have also thought themselves one of the few to stand up for Japanese-Americans who were moved to internment camps during World War II.
Were these students all exceptional examples of independent thought and courage? Of course not. Rather, they exemplify two human realities: we have an amazing ability to overestimate our own courage and to believe we would think independently in the face of intense social pressure. If the vast majority were actually so wise and brave, so independent of mind and full of courage, how have there been so many human rights violations throughout history?
The reality is that most of us are not so independent-minded and courageous; rather, we are easily influenced by groupthink. Made famous by George Orwell in his novel 1984, groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational and dysfunctional decision-making outcome. The desire for cohesiveness produces a tendency to agree at all costs, minimizing conflicts and resulting in decisions made without critical evaluation. Groupthink occurs within government decision-making and also in smaller corporate settings. Successful organizations try to avoid it because it prevents a full analysis of difficult issues and results in poor decisions.
~~Snip~~
The expert models about COVID-19 have been wrong again and again. Initially estimating two million American deaths with social distancing measures in place, the IHME models have since been drastically revised twice to now estimate 60,000 American deaths. While COVID-19 is a serious virus that has already killed tens of thousands of Americans, data show that the overwhelming majority of people do not have a significant risk of dying from COVID-19. The recent Stanford antibody study estimates the fatality rate between 0.1 and 0.2 percent, 20 to 30 times lower than estimates that motivated lockdowns. The vast majority of these fatalities (99.2%) have an underlying illness. And based on a data analysis of the N.Y. area, young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19. Meanwhile, due to the COVID-19 response, many important preventative health care measures have been canceled, unemployment is soaring to Great Depression levels, and the Third World is at risk of massive famines — famines that, according to the U.N., could kill hundreds of millions of people.
When time passes and the hysteria recedes; when it becomes clear that fewer Americans died of COVID-19 than a variety of other addressable problems; and when an unprecedented number of Americans die deaths of despair, thanks in large part to the COVID-19 response, will this be our cobra-effect moment? And if it is, will we admit that we were swept up by the groupthink, pointing disapprovingly at dissenters? Or will we be like the students in my professor's class, still fooling ourselves into thinking we have the courage and independence of mind to stand up to a mob that we marched side by side with not so long ago?
It's not too late to break free and think about a different plan. Let's not be afraid of the dissenters. Let's not be afraid of the truth and where it might lead us.


Comment:
The news about “supporting” the Wuhan lab with $3.7 billion from the U.S. needs to be put in context.
When this is "over", and drugs found to combat the disease with a vaccine created the question is will this be swept under the rug by the despicable lamestream media, Who will be held accountable? Will the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats be held accountable for resisting the president's action and instilling fear among the citizens of America. Will anything be done about the shrill idiots who were complicit in fomenting the hysteria, and fear mongering, including the Doctor who did not approve of treating patients with inexpensive HCQ when nothing else was available to treat people infected with the Wu-Hu Flu.
In the end the Wuhan Covid-19 Flu will be added to the influenza virus that have been created and spread throughout the world by China.
The actions taken by President Trump have been correct to slow and overcome this pandemic by quarantine until a vaccine can be created.
The Virus has become the Political Weapon of 2020 by the PMS/DSA Democrat Left. What is clear is that blaming Trump has kept the nation divided unlike any other crisis including 9/11. Converting the virus into a talking point for the 2020 election demonstrates that PMS/DSA Democrats either really do not care about the people, or they are trying to convert the virus into a political weapon of 2020. Either way, this is the FIRST time in history where there has been some national crisis and the politicians failed to rally together.
With the election of Bush '43' civil discourse in political America was lost. Today there is no civil discourse at all within the halls of Congress or the media. In other words, it's all on Pelosi and Schumer. It's pretty much all a hysterical/childish madness they continually conduct, like a bunch of spoiled 3-year-olds fighting over space in a sandbox playpen, etc. Can we ever recover from their divisive actions?
In the end the media have failed reporters taking political sides in the political struggle, rather than remaining neutral and factual in their reporting.
Interesting think piece in the American Thinker. I don't get over there often enough, but when I do, it is usually for something reasonable well written, and thought provoking, hence the name.
Could absolutely be true or prophetic, but from my viewpoint and understanding, I do not know. This has turned into a state and local management problem, for the most part, with Federal Government being a balance of detriment to benefit. I do not presume to prescribe how Governors, Mayors, and town counsels deal with the problem, seeing both the detrimental and possible benefits. I am glad it is managed at state and local level, as a Federal one size fits all order is strictly outside the bounds of the constitution and the problem and severity varies to such a great extent, state to state and locality to locality.
I am out and about as is necessary, but still keeping distance from non-family when I can, because it is only prudent. No, I do not wish to contribute to the herd immunity, as it is all too clear that the disease can be particularly deadly to people my age and two people have dropped dead next door to me in the last 23 days, and neither one anywhere near my age. I assure you, I am quite tired of the whole thing.
 
Covid-1984

2 May 2020 ~~ By Kellie J. Miller
A professor of mine at Princeton University once surveyed his classes and asked them how they would have responded to the unjust laws in Nazi Germany or the Jim Crow South. While history tells us that so few stood against these human rights violations, almost every student felt he would have volunteered to hide Jewish people in Nazi Germany or would have joined those marching for civil rights. I'd predict that most of these students would have also thought themselves one of the few to stand up for Japanese-Americans who were moved to internment camps during World War II.
Were these students all exceptional examples of independent thought and courage? Of course not. Rather, they exemplify two human realities: we have an amazing ability to overestimate our own courage and to believe we would think independently in the face of intense social pressure. If the vast majority were actually so wise and brave, so independent of mind and full of courage, how have there been so many human rights violations throughout history?
The reality is that most of us are not so independent-minded and courageous; rather, we are easily influenced by groupthink. Made famous by George Orwell in his novel 1984, groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational and dysfunctional decision-making outcome. The desire for cohesiveness produces a tendency to agree at all costs, minimizing conflicts and resulting in decisions made without critical evaluation. Groupthink occurs within government decision-making and also in smaller corporate settings. Successful organizations try to avoid it because it prevents a full analysis of difficult issues and results in poor decisions.
~~Snip~~
The expert models about COVID-19 have been wrong again and again. Initially estimating two million American deaths with social distancing measures in place, the IHME models have since been drastically revised twice to now estimate 60,000 American deaths. While COVID-19 is a serious virus that has already killed tens of thousands of Americans, data show that the overwhelming majority of people do not have a significant risk of dying from COVID-19. The recent Stanford antibody study estimates the fatality rate between 0.1 and 0.2 percent, 20 to 30 times lower than estimates that motivated lockdowns. The vast majority of these fatalities (99.2%) have an underlying illness. And based on a data analysis of the N.Y. area, young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19. Meanwhile, due to the COVID-19 response, many important preventative health care measures have been canceled, unemployment is soaring to Great Depression levels, and the Third World is at risk of massive famines — famines that, according to the U.N., could kill hundreds of millions of people.
When time passes and the hysteria recedes; when it becomes clear that fewer Americans died of COVID-19 than a variety of other addressable problems; and when an unprecedented number of Americans die deaths of despair, thanks in large part to the COVID-19 response, will this be our cobra-effect moment? And if it is, will we admit that we were swept up by the groupthink, pointing disapprovingly at dissenters? Or will we be like the students in my professor's class, still fooling ourselves into thinking we have the courage and independence of mind to stand up to a mob that we marched side by side with not so long ago?
It's not too late to break free and think about a different plan. Let's not be afraid of the dissenters. Let's not be afraid of the truth and where it might lead us.


Comment:
The news about “supporting” the Wuhan lab with $3.7 billion from the U.S. needs to be put in context.
When this is "over", and drugs found to combat the disease with a vaccine created the question is will this be swept under the rug by the despicable lamestream media, Who will be held accountable? Will the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats be held accountable for resisting the president's action and instilling fear among the citizens of America. Will anything be done about the shrill idiots who were complicit in fomenting the hysteria, and fear mongering, including the Doctor who did not approve of treating patients with inexpensive HCQ when nothing else was available to treat people infected with the Wu-Hu Flu.
In the end the Wuhan Covid-19 Flu will be added to the influenza virus that have been created and spread throughout the world by China.
The actions taken by President Trump have been correct to slow and overcome this pandemic by quarantine until a vaccine can be created.
The Virus has become the Political Weapon of 2020 by the PMS/DSA Democrat Left. What is clear is that blaming Trump has kept the nation divided unlike any other crisis including 9/11. Converting the virus into a talking point for the 2020 election demonstrates that PMS/DSA Democrats either really do not care about the people, or they are trying to convert the virus into a political weapon of 2020. Either way, this is the FIRST time in history where there has been some national crisis and the politicians failed to rally together.
With the election of Bush '43' civil discourse in political America was lost. Today there is no civil discourse at all within the halls of Congress or the media. In other words, it's all on Pelosi and Schumer. It's pretty much all a hysterical/childish madness they continually conduct, like a bunch of spoiled 3-year-olds fighting over space in a sandbox playpen, etc. Can we ever recover from their divisive actions?
In the end the media have failed reporters taking political sides in the political struggle, rather than remaining neutral and factual in their reporting.
Interesting think piece in the American Thinker. I don't get over there often enough, but when I do, it is usually for something reasonable well written, and thought provoking, hence the name.
Could absolutely be true or prophetic, but from my viewpoint and understanding, I do not know. This has turned into a state and local management problem, for the most part, with Federal Government being a balance of detriment to benefit. I do not presume to prescribe how Governors, Mayors, and town counsels deal with the problem, seeing both the detrimental and possible benefits. I am glad it is managed at state and local level, as a Federal one size fits all order is strictly outside the bounds of the constitution and the problem and severity varies to such a great extent, state to state and locality to locality.
I am out and about as is necessary, but still keeping distance from non-family when I can, because it is only prudent. No, I do not wish to contribute to the herd immunity, as it is all too clear that the disease can be particularly deadly to people my age and two people have dropped dead next door to me in the last 23 days, and neither one anywhere near my age. I assure you, I am quite tired of the whole thing.

~~~~~~
I agree with your ideas up to a point. You have to question why Governors, Mayors etc., of Blue States and cities have been so politically opposed to the executive orders issued by Trump regarding control of the pandemic. It appears that the heavily populated Blue cities have been hit the hardest and it is also due to the incompetence of Governors and local leaders.
You have to question why they have refused to allow HCQ (a tried and true antiviral) to be used and why they have infected Nursing Homes within their jurisdictions.
 
Covid-1984

2 May 2020 ~~ By Kellie J. Miller
A professor of mine at Princeton University once surveyed his classes and asked them how they would have responded to the unjust laws in Nazi Germany or the Jim Crow South. While history tells us that so few stood against these human rights violations, almost every student felt he would have volunteered to hide Jewish people in Nazi Germany or would have joined those marching for civil rights. I'd predict that most of these students would have also thought themselves one of the few to stand up for Japanese-Americans who were moved to internment camps during World War II.
Were these students all exceptional examples of independent thought and courage? Of course not. Rather, they exemplify two human realities: we have an amazing ability to overestimate our own courage and to believe we would think independently in the face of intense social pressure. If the vast majority were actually so wise and brave, so independent of mind and full of courage, how have there been so many human rights violations throughout history?
The reality is that most of us are not so independent-minded and courageous; rather, we are easily influenced by groupthink. Made famous by George Orwell in his novel 1984, groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational and dysfunctional decision-making outcome. The desire for cohesiveness produces a tendency to agree at all costs, minimizing conflicts and resulting in decisions made without critical evaluation. Groupthink occurs within government decision-making and also in smaller corporate settings. Successful organizations try to avoid it because it prevents a full analysis of difficult issues and results in poor decisions.
~~Snip~~
The expert models about COVID-19 have been wrong again and again. Initially estimating two million American deaths with social distancing measures in place, the IHME models have since been drastically revised twice to now estimate 60,000 American deaths. While COVID-19 is a serious virus that has already killed tens of thousands of Americans, data show that the overwhelming majority of people do not have a significant risk of dying from COVID-19. The recent Stanford antibody study estimates the fatality rate between 0.1 and 0.2 percent, 20 to 30 times lower than estimates that motivated lockdowns. The vast majority of these fatalities (99.2%) have an underlying illness. And based on a data analysis of the N.Y. area, young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19. Meanwhile, due to the COVID-19 response, many important preventative health care measures have been canceled, unemployment is soaring to Great Depression levels, and the Third World is at risk of massive famines — famines that, according to the U.N., could kill hundreds of millions of people.
When time passes and the hysteria recedes; when it becomes clear that fewer Americans died of COVID-19 than a variety of other addressable problems; and when an unprecedented number of Americans die deaths of despair, thanks in large part to the COVID-19 response, will this be our cobra-effect moment? And if it is, will we admit that we were swept up by the groupthink, pointing disapprovingly at dissenters? Or will we be like the students in my professor's class, still fooling ourselves into thinking we have the courage and independence of mind to stand up to a mob that we marched side by side with not so long ago?
It's not too late to break free and think about a different plan. Let's not be afraid of the dissenters. Let's not be afraid of the truth and where it might lead us.


Comment:
The news about “supporting” the Wuhan lab with $3.7 billion from the U.S. needs to be put in context.
When this is "over", and drugs found to combat the disease with a vaccine created the question is will this be swept under the rug by the despicable lamestream media, Who will be held accountable? Will the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats be held accountable for resisting the president's action and instilling fear among the citizens of America. Will anything be done about the shrill idiots who were complicit in fomenting the hysteria, and fear mongering, including the Doctor who did not approve of treating patients with inexpensive HCQ when nothing else was available to treat people infected with the Wu-Hu Flu.
In the end the Wuhan Covid-19 Flu will be added to the influenza virus that have been created and spread throughout the world by China.
The actions taken by President Trump have been correct to slow and overcome this pandemic by quarantine until a vaccine can be created.
The Virus has become the Political Weapon of 2020 by the PMS/DSA Democrat Left. What is clear is that blaming Trump has kept the nation divided unlike any other crisis including 9/11. Converting the virus into a talking point for the 2020 election demonstrates that PMS/DSA Democrats either really do not care about the people, or they are trying to convert the virus into a political weapon of 2020. Either way, this is the FIRST time in history where there has been some national crisis and the politicians failed to rally together.
With the election of Bush '43' civil discourse in political America was lost. Today there is no civil discourse at all within the halls of Congress or the media. In other words, it's all on Pelosi and Schumer. It's pretty much all a hysterical/childish madness they continually conduct, like a bunch of spoiled 3-year-olds fighting over space in a sandbox playpen, etc. Can we ever recover from their divisive actions?
In the end the media have failed reporters taking political sides in the political struggle, rather than remaining neutral and factual in their reporting.
Interesting think piece in the American Thinker. I don't get over there often enough, but when I do, it is usually for something reasonable well written, and thought provoking, hence the name.
Could absolutely be true or prophetic, but from my viewpoint and understanding, I do not know. This has turned into a state and local management problem, for the most part, with Federal Government being a balance of detriment to benefit. I do not presume to prescribe how Governors, Mayors, and town counsels deal with the problem, seeing both the detrimental and possible benefits. I am glad it is managed at state and local level, as a Federal one size fits all order is strictly outside the bounds of the constitution and the problem and severity varies to such a great extent, state to state and locality to locality.
I am out and about as is necessary, but still keeping distance from non-family when I can, because it is only prudent. No, I do not wish to contribute to the herd immunity, as it is all too clear that the disease can be particularly deadly to people my age and two people have dropped dead next door to me in the last 23 days, and neither one anywhere near my age. I assure you, I am quite tired of the whole thing.

~~~~~~
I agree with your ideas up to a point. You have to question why Governors, Mayors etc., of Blue States and cities have been so politically opposed to the executive orders issued by Trump regarding control of the pandemic. It appears that the heavily populated Blue cities have been hit the hardest and it is also due to the incompetence of Governors and local leaders.
You have to question why they have refused to allow HCQ (a tried and true antiviral) to be used and why they have infected Nursing Homes within their jurisdictions.
That is kind of bizarre. I think I would have been closing borders and checking recent out of country arrivals sooner an at the same time, if really making an effort to stop it from spreading here. The thing you mentioned about the nursing homes is really disturbing, with not fully immediately checking everyone in the Washington nursing home, and logical sounding voice of reason,
(Cuomo) actually sending Covid-19 recovering patients from hospitals into the most at danger groups in the country. I thought early, not immediately and completely checking the Washington nursing was like some sick social health experiment designed to check the mortality rate in a closed controlled environment. Apparently, it is pretty darn highly lethal.
 
Covid-1984

2 May 2020 ~~ By Kellie J. Miller
A professor of mine at Princeton University once surveyed his classes and asked them how they would have responded to the unjust laws in Nazi Germany or the Jim Crow South. While history tells us that so few stood against these human rights violations, almost every student felt he would have volunteered to hide Jewish people in Nazi Germany or would have joined those marching for civil rights. I'd predict that most of these students would have also thought themselves one of the few to stand up for Japanese-Americans who were moved to internment camps during World War II.
Were these students all exceptional examples of independent thought and courage? Of course not. Rather, they exemplify two human realities: we have an amazing ability to overestimate our own courage and to believe we would think independently in the face of intense social pressure. If the vast majority were actually so wise and brave, so independent of mind and full of courage, how have there been so many human rights violations throughout history?
The reality is that most of us are not so independent-minded and courageous; rather, we are easily influenced by groupthink. Made famous by George Orwell in his novel 1984, groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational and dysfunctional decision-making outcome. The desire for cohesiveness produces a tendency to agree at all costs, minimizing conflicts and resulting in decisions made without critical evaluation. Groupthink occurs within government decision-making and also in smaller corporate settings. Successful organizations try to avoid it because it prevents a full analysis of difficult issues and results in poor decisions.
~~Snip~~
The expert models about COVID-19 have been wrong again and again. Initially estimating two million American deaths with social distancing measures in place, the IHME models have since been drastically revised twice to now estimate 60,000 American deaths. While COVID-19 is a serious virus that has already killed tens of thousands of Americans, data show that the overwhelming majority of people do not have a significant risk of dying from COVID-19. The recent Stanford antibody study estimates the fatality rate between 0.1 and 0.2 percent, 20 to 30 times lower than estimates that motivated lockdowns. The vast majority of these fatalities (99.2%) have an underlying illness. And based on a data analysis of the N.Y. area, young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19. Meanwhile, due to the COVID-19 response, many important preventative health care measures have been canceled, unemployment is soaring to Great Depression levels, and the Third World is at risk of massive famines — famines that, according to the U.N., could kill hundreds of millions of people.
When time passes and the hysteria recedes; when it becomes clear that fewer Americans died of COVID-19 than a variety of other addressable problems; and when an unprecedented number of Americans die deaths of despair, thanks in large part to the COVID-19 response, will this be our cobra-effect moment? And if it is, will we admit that we were swept up by the groupthink, pointing disapprovingly at dissenters? Or will we be like the students in my professor's class, still fooling ourselves into thinking we have the courage and independence of mind to stand up to a mob that we marched side by side with not so long ago?
It's not too late to break free and think about a different plan. Let's not be afraid of the dissenters. Let's not be afraid of the truth and where it might lead us.


Comment:
The news about “supporting” the Wuhan lab with $3.7 billion from the U.S. needs to be put in context.
When this is "over", and drugs found to combat the disease with a vaccine created the question is will this be swept under the rug by the despicable lamestream media, Who will be held accountable? Will the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats be held accountable for resisting the president's action and instilling fear among the citizens of America. Will anything be done about the shrill idiots who were complicit in fomenting the hysteria, and fear mongering, including the Doctor who did not approve of treating patients with inexpensive HCQ when nothing else was available to treat people infected with the Wu-Hu Flu.
In the end the Wuhan Covid-19 Flu will be added to the influenza virus that have been created and spread throughout the world by China.
The actions taken by President Trump have been correct to slow and overcome this pandemic by quarantine until a vaccine can be created.
The Virus has become the Political Weapon of 2020 by the PMS/DSA Democrat Left. What is clear is that blaming Trump has kept the nation divided unlike any other crisis including 9/11. Converting the virus into a talking point for the 2020 election demonstrates that PMS/DSA Democrats either really do not care about the people, or they are trying to convert the virus into a political weapon of 2020. Either way, this is the FIRST time in history where there has been some national crisis and the politicians failed to rally together.
With the election of Bush '43' civil discourse in political America was lost. Today there is no civil discourse at all within the halls of Congress or the media. In other words, it's all on Pelosi and Schumer. It's pretty much all a hysterical/childish madness they continually conduct, like a bunch of spoiled 3-year-olds fighting over space in a sandbox playpen, etc. Can we ever recover from their divisive actions?
In the end the media have failed reporters taking political sides in the political struggle, rather than remaining neutral and factual in their reporting.
Interesting think piece in the American Thinker. I don't get over there often enough, but when I do, it is usually for something reasonable well written, and thought provoking, hence the name.
Could absolutely be true or prophetic, but from my viewpoint and understanding, I do not know. This has turned into a state and local management problem, for the most part, with Federal Government being a balance of detriment to benefit. I do not presume to prescribe how Governors, Mayors, and town counsels deal with the problem, seeing both the detrimental and possible benefits. I am glad it is managed at state and local level, as a Federal one size fits all order is strictly outside the bounds of the constitution and the problem and severity varies to such a great extent, state to state and locality to locality.
I am out and about as is necessary, but still keeping distance from non-family when I can, because it is only prudent. No, I do not wish to contribute to the herd immunity, as it is all too clear that the disease can be particularly deadly to people my age and two people have dropped dead next door to me in the last 23 days, and neither one anywhere near my age. I assure you, I am quite tired of the whole thing.

~~~~~~
I agree with your ideas up to a point. You have to question why Governors, Mayors etc., of Blue States and cities have been so politically opposed to the executive orders issued by Trump regarding control of the pandemic. It appears that the heavily populated Blue cities have been hit the hardest and it is also due to the incompetence of Governors and local leaders.
You have to question why they have refused to allow HCQ (a tried and true antiviral) to be used and why they have infected Nursing Homes within their jurisdictions.
That is kind of bizarre. I think I would have been closing borders and checking recent out of country arrivals sooner an at the same time, if really making an effort to stop it from spreading here. The thing you mentioned about the nursing homes is really disturbing, with not fully immediately checking everyone in the Washington nursing home, and logical sounding voice of reason,
(Cuomo) actually sending Covid-19 recovering patients from hospitals into the most at danger groups in the country. I thought early, not immediately and completely checking the Washington nursing was like some sick social health experiment designed to check the mortality rate in a closed controlled environment. Apparently, it is pretty darn highly lethal.


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You are correct that closing borders and air traffic to and from America would have been the right move. However, the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrat Left would have been screaming from the rooftops , Which they certainly did when Trump announced the decision...


 
Covid-1984

2 May 2020 ~~ By Kellie J. Miller
A professor of mine at Princeton University once surveyed his classes and asked them how they would have responded to the unjust laws in Nazi Germany or the Jim Crow South. While history tells us that so few stood against these human rights violations, almost every student felt he would have volunteered to hide Jewish people in Nazi Germany or would have joined those marching for civil rights. I'd predict that most of these students would have also thought themselves one of the few to stand up for Japanese-Americans who were moved to internment camps during World War II.
Were these students all exceptional examples of independent thought and courage? Of course not. Rather, they exemplify two human realities: we have an amazing ability to overestimate our own courage and to believe we would think independently in the face of intense social pressure. If the vast majority were actually so wise and brave, so independent of mind and full of courage, how have there been so many human rights violations throughout history?
The reality is that most of us are not so independent-minded and courageous; rather, we are easily influenced by groupthink. Made famous by George Orwell in his novel 1984, groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational and dysfunctional decision-making outcome. The desire for cohesiveness produces a tendency to agree at all costs, minimizing conflicts and resulting in decisions made without critical evaluation. Groupthink occurs within government decision-making and also in smaller corporate settings. Successful organizations try to avoid it because it prevents a full analysis of difficult issues and results in poor decisions.
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The expert models about COVID-19 have been wrong again and again. Initially estimating two million American deaths with social distancing measures in place, the IHME models have since been drastically revised twice to now estimate 60,000 American deaths. While COVID-19 is a serious virus that has already killed tens of thousands of Americans, data show that the overwhelming majority of people do not have a significant risk of dying from COVID-19. The recent Stanford antibody study estimates the fatality rate between 0.1 and 0.2 percent, 20 to 30 times lower than estimates that motivated lockdowns. The vast majority of these fatalities (99.2%) have an underlying illness. And based on a data analysis of the N.Y. area, young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19. Meanwhile, due to the COVID-19 response, many important preventative health care measures have been canceled, unemployment is soaring to Great Depression levels, and the Third World is at risk of massive famines — famines that, according to the U.N., could kill hundreds of millions of people.
When time passes and the hysteria recedes; when it becomes clear that fewer Americans died of COVID-19 than a variety of other addressable problems; and when an unprecedented number of Americans die deaths of despair, thanks in large part to the COVID-19 response, will this be our cobra-effect moment? And if it is, will we admit that we were swept up by the groupthink, pointing disapprovingly at dissenters? Or will we be like the students in my professor's class, still fooling ourselves into thinking we have the courage and independence of mind to stand up to a mob that we marched side by side with not so long ago?
It's not too late to break free and think about a different plan. Let's not be afraid of the dissenters. Let's not be afraid of the truth and where it might lead us.


Comment:
The news about “supporting” the Wuhan lab with $3.7 billion from the U.S. needs to be put in context.
When this is "over", and drugs found to combat the disease with a vaccine created the question is will this be swept under the rug by the despicable lamestream media, Who will be held accountable? Will the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats be held accountable for resisting the president's action and instilling fear among the citizens of America. Will anything be done about the shrill idiots who were complicit in fomenting the hysteria, and fear mongering, including the Doctor who did not approve of treating patients with inexpensive HCQ when nothing else was available to treat people infected with the Wu-Hu Flu.
In the end the Wuhan Covid-19 Flu will be added to the influenza virus that have been created and spread throughout the world by China.
The actions taken by President Trump have been correct to slow and overcome this pandemic by quarantine until a vaccine can be created.
The Virus has become the Political Weapon of 2020 by the PMS/DSA Democrat Left. What is clear is that blaming Trump has kept the nation divided unlike any other crisis including 9/11. Converting the virus into a talking point for the 2020 election demonstrates that PMS/DSA Democrats either really do not care about the people, or they are trying to convert the virus into a political weapon of 2020. Either way, this is the FIRST time in history where there has been some national crisis and the politicians failed to rally together.
With the election of Bush '43' civil discourse in political America was lost. Today there is no civil discourse at all within the halls of Congress or the media. In other words, it's all on Pelosi and Schumer. It's pretty much all a hysterical/childish madness they continually conduct, like a bunch of spoiled 3-year-olds fighting over space in a sandbox playpen, etc. Can we ever recover from their divisive actions?
In the end the media have failed reporters taking political sides in the political struggle, rather than remaining neutral and factual in their reporting.
Interesting think piece in the American Thinker. I don't get over there often enough, but when I do, it is usually for something reasonable well written, and thought provoking, hence the name.
Could absolutely be true or prophetic, but from my viewpoint and understanding, I do not know. This has turned into a state and local management problem, for the most part, with Federal Government being a balance of detriment to benefit. I do not presume to prescribe how Governors, Mayors, and town counsels deal with the problem, seeing both the detrimental and possible benefits. I am glad it is managed at state and local level, as a Federal one size fits all order is strictly outside the bounds of the constitution and the problem and severity varies to such a great extent, state to state and locality to locality.
I am out and about as is necessary, but still keeping distance from non-family when I can, because it is only prudent. No, I do not wish to contribute to the herd immunity, as it is all too clear that the disease can be particularly deadly to people my age and two people have dropped dead next door to me in the last 23 days, and neither one anywhere near my age. I assure you, I am quite tired of the whole thing.

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I agree with your ideas up to a point. You have to question why Governors, Mayors etc., of Blue States and cities have been so politically opposed to the executive orders issued by Trump regarding control of the pandemic. It appears that the heavily populated Blue cities have been hit the hardest and it is also due to the incompetence of Governors and local leaders.
You have to question why they have refused to allow HCQ (a tried and true antiviral) to be used and why they have infected Nursing Homes within their jurisdictions.
That is kind of bizarre. I think I would have been closing borders and checking recent out of country arrivals sooner an at the same time, if really making an effort to stop it from spreading here. The thing you mentioned about the nursing homes is really disturbing, with not fully immediately checking everyone in the Washington nursing home, and logical sounding voice of reason,
(Cuomo) actually sending Covid-19 recovering patients from hospitals into the most at danger groups in the country. I thought early, not immediately and completely checking the Washington nursing was like some sick social health experiment designed to check the mortality rate in a closed controlled environment. Apparently, it is pretty darn highly lethal.


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You are correct that closing borders and air traffic to and from America would have been the right move. However, the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrat Left would have been screaming from the rooftops , Which they certainly did when Trump announced the decision...


Most of us really do not care how much the far left or far right scream about supposed injustice during a medical crises. Most are probably like me, more intent on taking care of me and mine in the best way we see fit, with as little detrimental interference by others as possible.
 
how they would have responded to the unjust laws in Nazi Germany or the Jim Crow South. While history tells us that so few stood against these human rights violations, almost every student felt he would have volunteered to hide Jewish people in Nazi Germany or would have joined those marching for civil rights
They call us "mentally ill," impose gun control on us, and systematically lock us out of all markets of employment, labor, business, trade, and commerce. They don't care any more now than they cared back then.

The people in power who ruined our lives will have to be forced to pay with their lives and their fortunes for all that they have wronged us.

The sign-waving feel-good liberal political demonstrators aren't going to help with that. They don't put their money where their mouth is.
 
how they would have responded to the unjust laws in Nazi Germany or the Jim Crow South. While history tells us that so few stood against these human rights violations, almost every student felt he would have volunteered to hide Jewish people in Nazi Germany or would have joined those marching for civil rights
They call us "mentally ill," impose gun control on us, and systematically lock us out of all markets of employment, labor, business, trade, and commerce. They don't care any more now than they cared back then.

The people in power who ruined our lives will have to be forced to pay with their lives and their fortunes for all that they have wronged us.

The sign-waving feel-good liberal political demonstrators aren't going to help with that. They don't put their money where their mouth is.
Calm down Justin. Doubt you are going to force anybody have to pay with their lives and fortunes anytime soon. I don't think you will see the revolt of the proletariat, so don't shoot unless shot at.
 

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