COVID-19 Math Problem - please solve

[jc456]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Let's make it simple.

Currently: 64k dead.

Growth/d: 2k.

154k - 64k = 90k

At the current rate, 90k deaths take 45 days - that would happen around mid-June. That's assuming the infection and fatality rates won't pick up with more and more businesses reopening in fly-over country.

You actually seem to think, grabbing some numbers, piling them up, and crowing over what you've found, amounts to an argument.

Be advised, it doesn't.

Nope

 

[jc456]

LOL ya meanwhile places like New York report any death as Covid 19 with absolutely no testing. The fact remains Millions probably got sick and just suffered through it. It is no worse then the regular flu to anyone under 50. By the way get back to us when the US has over 200000 dead since thats what dies every year due to the regular flu.

200,000 people do not die in the US every year from the flu...

Past Seasons Estimated Influenza Disease Burden | CDC

These page includes information about the estimated burden of influenza from past seasons, including tables of the estimated influenza disease burden (and 95% credible interval [Cr I]) by age group.

www.cdc.gov

60,000 a year, 200,000 may be cancer or car deaths

60,000 is a pretty high number of estimated deaths for a flu season. Looking at the CDC estimates, the number of deaths per flu season between 2010 and 2017 ranged from 12,000 to 51,000, with an average of about 34,571. The 2017-2018 preliminary estimate is 61,000.

The thing is, not one death was tested. Just saying, there’s that

 

[Wapasha]

I gotta question your math my friend. I'm coming up with a mortality rate of .057 or 57 times deadlier than the flu.
IOW 5.7 deaths per ONE HUNDRED - Hey, I'm not great at math, but yours does appear suspicious.

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
1,075,643
Deaths:
62,319
Recovered:
149,686

Swine flu death rate similar to seasonal flu: expert

The death rate from the pandemic H1N1 swine flu is likely lower than earlier estimates, an expert in infectious diseases said on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

Seasonal flu has a death rate of less than 0.1 percent — but still manages to kill 250,000 to 500,000 people globally every year.

 

[Wapasha]

60,000 is a pretty high number of estimated deaths for a flu season. Looking at the CDC estimates, the number of deaths per flu season between 2010 and 2017 ranged from 12,000 to 51,000, with an average of about 34,571. The 2017-2018 preliminary estimate is 61,000.

From the CDC:

Jurisdiction of Occurrence	COVID-19 Deaths	Deaths from All Causes		Pneumonia Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19	Influenza Deaths

United States

37,308

719,438

64,382

16,564

5,846

 

[zaangalewa]

The virus comes from China, and that all started in December 2019.

And the virus of the "spanish influenca" came from the USA in 1917.

And yet the globe has referred to as Spanish

And the USA used it as a war propaganda against Germany. Nevertheless the spanish influenca came from Kansas. It costed 20 up to 100 million victims worldwide.

 

[zaangalewa]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

Where is the logic?

If one man infects 2 people every day then 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 ... and so on will be infected in the following days. Under this condition it will need 28 days = 4 weeks to infect all US-Americans. And it were in lots of countries often much more than 2 people, who were infected from 1.

You say 2 of 1000 die in case of Corona so in 4 weeks will be dead 660,000 people in the USA. But how realistic is 0.2%? In Germany for example died in the begininng about 0,4% of the infected people - but meanwhile 10 tiems more, 4%, died - lots of them after weeks of intensive care. So you have to calculate in this case 6,600,000 or even 13.2 million deaths. If I compare other nations it could be even much more worse. In the UK for example die 15.5% of the infected people.

And do not forget: Too fast is always too slow!

Well we’re eight weeks and those figures you gave are nowhere globally or in our country

What do you think why this what you call "lock down" exists? Because everyone is an idiot who learned somehting in school about viruses and exponential functions?

So, you’re wrong. Math and facts aren’t good to you

This sentence is totally clear for me the message: US-Americans are the people who fight against each other in case they have have to fight for each other. By the way: How many tombstones do you need? I'm sure we can make a good price. But we will need some weeks to send them over the ocean.

My math was off. We lose 1 person per 5.5k. Tombstones? How many millions of unemployed people do you need? You’re a Leftist. People die from heart disease and alcoholism but we don’t stop driving cars and drinking. You’re a snowflake

Let me say it in this way: An empty room ... a desk ... a red button on this desk ... a piece of paper where's written on ... "DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON" ... And now explain me why you like to press this button.

 

[Ame®icano]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

I hope this helps...

CDC Link.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

Where is the logic?

If one man infects 2 people every day then 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 ... and so on will be infected in the following days. Under this condition it will need 28 days = 4 weeks to infect all US-Americans. And it were in lots of countries often much more than 2 people, who were infected from 1.

You say 2 of 1000 die in case of Corona so in 4 weeks will be dead 660,000 people in the USA. But how realistic is 0.2%? In Germany for example died in the begininng about 0,4% of the infected people - but meanwhile 10 tiems more, 4%, died - lots of them after weeks of intensive care. So you have to calculate in this case 6,600,000 or even 13.2 million deaths. If I compare other nations it could be even much more worse. In the UK for example die 15.5% of the infected people.

And do not forget: Too fast is always too slow!

Well we’re eight weeks and those figures you gave are nowhere globally or in our country

What do you think why this what you call "lock down" exists? Because everyone is an idiot who learned somehting in school about viruses and exponential functions?

So, you’re wrong. Math and facts aren’t good to you

This sentence is totally clear for me the message: US-Americans are the people who fight against each other in case they have have to fight for each other. By the way: How many tombstones do you need? I'm sure we can make a good price. But we will need some weeks to send them over the ocean.

My math was off. We lose 1 person per 5.5k. Tombstones? How many millions of unemployed people do you need? You’re a Leftist. People die from heart disease and alcoholism but we don’t stop driving cars and drinking. You’re a snowflake

Let me say it in this way: An empty room ... a desk ... a red button on this desk ... a piece of paper where's written on ... "DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON" ... And now explain me why you like to press this button.

Because the person who wrote the note is an idiot --- you the author?

 

[zaangalewa]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

I hope this helps...

CDC Link.

View attachment 331180

And this data are correct?

A look at the data of Johns Hopkins Universisty in case of covid-19 deaths in the USA shows to me: April 1st about 5000 deaths May 1st about 60000 deaths. Linear growing. No mitigation. Worrying situation.

 

[Ame®icano]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

I hope this helps...

CDC Link.

View attachment 331180

And this data are correct?

A look at the data of Johns Hopkins Universisty in case of covid-19 deaths in the USA shows to me: April 1st about 5000 deaths May 1st about 60000 deaths. Linear growing. No mitigation. Worrying situation.

That's from CDC website. I provided a link.

 

[zaangalewa]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

Where is the logic?

If one man infects 2 people every day then 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 ... and so on will be infected in the following days. Under this condition it will need 28 days = 4 weeks to infect all US-Americans. And it were in lots of countries often much more than 2 people, who were infected from 1.

You say 2 of 1000 die in case of Corona so in 4 weeks will be dead 660,000 people in the USA. But how realistic is 0.2%? In Germany for example died in the begininng about 0,4% of the infected people - but meanwhile 10 tiems more, 4%, died - lots of them after weeks of intensive care. So you have to calculate in this case 6,600,000 or even 13.2 million deaths. If I compare other nations it could be even much more worse. In the UK for example die 15.5% of the infected people.

And do not forget: Too fast is always too slow!

Well we’re eight weeks and those figures you gave are nowhere globally or in our country

What do you think why this what you call "lock down" exists? Because everyone is an idiot who learned somehting in school about viruses and exponential functions?

So, you’re wrong. Math and facts aren’t good to you

This sentence is totally clear for me the message: US-Americans are the people who fight against each other in case they have have to fight for each other. By the way: How many tombstones do you need? I'm sure we can make a good price. But we will need some weeks to send them over the ocean.

My math was off. We lose 1 person per 5.5k. Tombstones? How many millions of unemployed people do you need? You’re a Leftist. People die from heart disease and alcoholism but we don’t stop driving cars and drinking. You’re a snowflake

Let me say it in this way: An empty room ... a desk ... a red button on this desk ... a piece of paper where's written on ... "DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON" ... And now explain me why you like to press this button.

Because the person who wrote the note is an idiot --- you the author?

You will press then button because of the boring situation. But indeed is not existing any real reason to have to press the button as long as no one knows what really will happen. To defame persons, to lie and to deny facts helps no one.

Experiment by thoughts. Donald Trump declared war on world economy, against all nations in the world and against all of his enemies in the USA. Now comes a reaction in form of a biological attack against the USA. And what is the USA doing? Where are your plans what to do in case of such an expectable attack? Why do you not change in a war economy for a short time? Everyone needs a home, everyone needs enough to eat, everyone needs a warm enough (or cold enough) home. Whatelse? ...



PS: And don't forget to fight the real problem: The Corona-2 virus!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

I hope this helps...

CDC Link.

View attachment 331180

And this data are correct?

A look at the data of Johns Hopkins Universisty in case of covid-19 deaths in the USA shows to me: April 1st about 5000 deaths May 1st about 60000 deaths. Linear growing. No mitigation. Worrying situation.

60000k = 1 per 5.5k of population

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

Where is the logic?

If one man infects 2 people every day then 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 ... and so on will be infected in the following days. Under this condition it will need 28 days = 4 weeks to infect all US-Americans. And it were in lots of countries often much more than 2 people, who were infected from 1.

You say 2 of 1000 die in case of Corona so in 4 weeks will be dead 660,000 people in the USA. But how realistic is 0.2%? In Germany for example died in the begininng about 0,4% of the infected people - but meanwhile 10 tiems more, 4%, died - lots of them after weeks of intensive care. So you have to calculate in this case 6,600,000 or even 13.2 million deaths. If I compare other nations it could be even much more worse. In the UK for example die 15.5% of the infected people.

And do not forget: Too fast is always too slow!

Well we’re eight weeks and those figures you gave are nowhere globally or in our country

What do you think why this what you call "lock down" exists? Because everyone is an idiot who learned somehting in school about viruses and exponential functions?

So, you’re wrong. Math and facts aren’t good to you

This sentence is totally clear for me the message: US-Americans are the people who fight against each other in case they have have to fight for each other. By the way: How many tombstones do you need? I'm sure we can make a good price. But we will need some weeks to send them over the ocean.

My math was off. We lose 1 person per 5.5k. Tombstones? How many millions of unemployed people do you need? You’re a Leftist. People die from heart disease and alcoholism but we don’t stop driving cars and drinking. You’re a snowflake

Let me say it in this way: An empty room ... a desk ... a red button on this desk ... a piece of paper where's written on ... "DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON" ... And now explain me why you like to press this button.

Because the person who wrote the note is an idiot --- you the author?

You will press then button because of the boring situation. But indeed is not existing any real reason to have to press the button as long as onone knows what really will happen. To defame persons, to lie and to deny facts helps no one.

Wrong. It shows that whomever wrote the note just wanted to scare people.

 

[zaangalewa]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

I hope this helps...

CDC Link.

View attachment 331180

And this data are correct?

A look at the data of Johns Hopkins Universisty in case of covid-19 deaths in the USA shows to me: April 1st about 5000 deaths May 1st about 60000 deaths. Linear growing. No mitigation. Worrying situation.

60000k = 1 per 5.5k of population

As far as I underdtand from your symbols 60000k are 60,000,000. And what do you like to say? Do you have a problem with the expression "linear growing"?

-----
04/1 5000
05/1 60000

If nothing changes, what will happen?

06 115,000
07 170,000
08 225,000
09 280,000
10 335,000
11 390,000
12 445,000
-----

 

[zaangalewa]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

Where is the logic?

If one man infects 2 people every day then 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 ... and so on will be infected in the following days. Under this condition it will need 28 days = 4 weeks to infect all US-Americans. And it were in lots of countries often much more than 2 people, who were infected from 1.

You say 2 of 1000 die in case of Corona so in 4 weeks will be dead 660,000 people in the USA. But how realistic is 0.2%? In Germany for example died in the begininng about 0,4% of the infected people - but meanwhile 10 tiems more, 4%, died - lots of them after weeks of intensive care. So you have to calculate in this case 6,600,000 or even 13.2 million deaths. If I compare other nations it could be even much more worse. In the UK for example die 15.5% of the infected people.

And do not forget: Too fast is always too slow!

Well we’re eight weeks and those figures you gave are nowhere globally or in our country

What do you think why this what you call "lock down" exists? Because everyone is an idiot who learned somehting in school about viruses and exponential functions?

So, you’re wrong. Math and facts aren’t good to you

This sentence is totally clear for me the message: US-Americans are the people who fight against each other in case they have have to fight for each other. By the way: How many tombstones do you need? I'm sure we can make a good price. But we will need some weeks to send them over the ocean.

My math was off. We lose 1 person per 5.5k. Tombstones? How many millions of unemployed people do you need? You’re a Leftist. People die from heart disease and alcoholism but we don’t stop driving cars and drinking. You’re a snowflake

Let me say it in this way: An empty room ... a desk ... a red button on this desk ... a piece of paper where's written on ... "DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON" ... And now explain me why you like to press this button.

Because the person who wrote the note is an idiot --- you the author?

You will press then button because of the boring situation. But indeed is not existing any real reason to have to press the button as long as onone knows what really will happen. To defame persons, to lie and to deny facts helps no one.

Wrong. It shows that whomever wrote the note just wanted to scare people.

Sure people are scared. You live in a pandemic. And all other countries of the world too.

By the way: I never met in Germany anyone, who is scared. It's a serios problem, a very serios problem. But it is solvable. Impatience helps nothing. We try to go step by step slowly and carefully.

 

[jc456]

I gotta question your math my friend. I'm coming up with a mortality rate of .057 or 57 times deadlier than the flu.
IOW 5.7 deaths per ONE HUNDRED - Hey, I'm not great at math, but yours does appear suspicious.

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
1,075,643
Deaths:
62,319
Recovered:
149,686

Swine flu death rate similar to seasonal flu: expert

The death rate from the pandemic H1N1 swine flu is likely lower than earlier estimates, an expert in infectious diseases said on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

Seasonal flu has a death rate of less than 0.1 percent — but still manages to kill 250,000 to 500,000 people globally every year.

Every year, with vaccines that don’t do jack shit

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

I hope this helps...

CDC Link.

View attachment 331180

And this data are correct?

A look at the data of Johns Hopkins Universisty in case of covid-19 deaths in the USA shows to me: April 1st about 5000 deaths May 1st about 60000 deaths. Linear growing. No mitigation. Worrying situation.

60000k = 1 per 5.5k of population

As far as I underdtand from your symbols 60000k are 60,000,000. And what do you like to say? Do you have a problem with the expression "linear growing"?

-----
04/1 5000
05/1 60000

If nothing changes, what will happen?

06 115,000
07 170,000
08 225,000
09 280,000
10 335,000
11 390,000
12 445,000
-----

Nope. Not how it works and 60k if it becomes 600k is still less than 1% of the population and that’s if I multiply the current death rate by 10. Most of those who die (82%) are 65+ and 94% have at least one preexisting condition. This was overblown by the media and you were duped. Instead we have millions not thousands suffering.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

Where is the logic?

If one man infects 2 people every day then 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 ... and so on will be infected in the following days. Under this condition it will need 28 days = 4 weeks to infect all US-Americans. And it were in lots of countries often much more than 2 people, who were infected from 1.

You say 2 of 1000 die in case of Corona so in 4 weeks will be dead 660,000 people in the USA. But how realistic is 0.2%? In Germany for example died in the begininng about 0,4% of the infected people - but meanwhile 10 tiems more, 4%, died - lots of them after weeks of intensive care. So you have to calculate in this case 6,600,000 or even 13.2 million deaths. If I compare other nations it could be even much more worse. In the UK for example die 15.5% of the infected people.

And do not forget: Too fast is always too slow!

Well we’re eight weeks and those figures you gave are nowhere globally or in our country

What do you think why this what you call "lock down" exists? Because everyone is an idiot who learned somehting in school about viruses and exponential functions?

So, you’re wrong. Math and facts aren’t good to you

This sentence is totally clear for me the message: US-Americans are the people who fight against each other in case they have have to fight for each other. By the way: How many tombstones do you need? I'm sure we can make a good price. But we will need some weeks to send them over the ocean.

My math was off. We lose 1 person per 5.5k. Tombstones? How many millions of unemployed people do you need? You’re a Leftist. People die from heart disease and alcoholism but we don’t stop driving cars and drinking. You’re a snowflake

Let me say it in this way: An empty room ... a desk ... a red button on this desk ... a piece of paper where's written on ... "DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON" ... And now explain me why you like to press this button.

Because the person who wrote the note is an idiot --- you the author?

You will press then button because of the boring situation. But indeed is not existing any real reason to have to press the button as long as onone knows what really will happen. To defame persons, to lie and to deny facts helps no one.

Wrong. It shows that whomever wrote the note just wanted to scare people.

Sure people are scared. You live in a pandemic. And all other countries of the world too.

By the way: I never met in Germany anyone, who is scared. It's a serios problem, a very serios problem. But it is solvable. Impatience helps nothing. We try to go step by step slowly and carefully.

No it isn’t. It is scary if you’re very old and sick. Stop listening to the media.

 

[zaangalewa]

Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

Where is the logic?

If one man infects 2 people every day then 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 ... and so on will be infected in the following days. Under this condition it will need 28 days = 4 weeks to infect all US-Americans. And it were in lots of countries often much more than 2 people, who were infected from 1.

You say 2 of 1000 die in case of Corona so in 4 weeks will be dead 660,000 people in the USA. But how realistic is 0.2%? In Germany for example died in the begininng about 0,4% of the infected people - but meanwhile 10 tiems more, 4%, died - lots of them after weeks of intensive care. So you have to calculate in this case 6,600,000 or even 13.2 million deaths. If I compare other nations it could be even much more worse. In the UK for example die 15.5% of the infected people.

And do not forget: Too fast is always too slow!

Well we’re eight weeks and those figures you gave are nowhere globally or in our country

What do you think why this what you call "lock down" exists? Because everyone is an idiot who learned somehting in school about viruses and exponential functions?

So, you’re wrong. Math and facts aren’t good to you

This sentence is totally clear for me the message: US-Americans are the people who fight against each other in case they have have to fight for each other. By the way: How many tombstones do you need? I'm sure we can make a good price. But we will need some weeks to send them over the ocean.

My math was off. We lose 1 person per 5.5k. Tombstones? How many millions of unemployed people do you need? You’re a Leftist. People die from heart disease and alcoholism but we don’t stop driving cars and drinking. You’re a snowflake

Let me say it in this way: An empty room ... a desk ... a red button on this desk ... a piece of paper where's written on ... "DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON" ... And now explain me why you like to press this button.

Because the person who wrote the note is an idiot --- you the author?

You will press then button because of the boring situation. But indeed is not existing any real reason to have to press the button as long as onone knows what really will happen. To defame persons, to lie and to deny facts helps no one.

Wrong. It shows that whomever wrote the note just wanted to scare people.

Sure people are scared. You live in a pandemic. And all other countries of the world too.

By the way: I never met in Germany anyone, who is scared. It's a serios problem, a very serios problem. But it is solvable. Impatience helps nothing. We try to go step by step slowly and carefully.

No it isn’t.

What means "no it isn't" now? Do you say just simple always the same phrases without to try to start to listen what others say?

It is scary if you’re very old and sick.

Not in case you know everyone will fight for your life. Under a health care system, which is not overburdened, will in a worst case scenario someone brought into an artificial coma and will be respirated without success and will die in this situation without to have to suffer. But it survived for example someone in Italy, who was 99 years old.

And some days ago for example died a 26 years old German after weeks in an intensive care unit. He had not any pre-existing desease. This man was young and sane and died. That's Corona too. No one is really save. And on the other side there's always hope too.

Stop listening to the media.

What a nonsense.

 

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Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).

Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.

Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.

Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?

Where is the logic? End the LOCKDOWN!

Thanks

I hope this helps...

CDC Link.

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And this data are correct?

A look at the data of Johns Hopkins Universisty in case of covid-19 deaths in the USA shows to me: April 1st about 5000 deaths May 1st about 60000 deaths. Linear growing. No mitigation. Worrying situation.

60000k = 1 per 5.5k of population

As far as I underdtand from your symbols 60000k are 60,000,000. And what do you like to say? Do you have a problem with the expression "linear growing"?

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04/1 5000
05/1 60000

If nothing changes, what will happen?

06 115,000
07 170,000
08 225,000
09 280,000
10 335,000
11 390,000
12 445,000
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Nope. Not how it works and 60k if it becomes 600k is still less than 1% of the population and that’s if I multiply the current death rate by 10. Most of those who die (82%) are 65+ and 94% have at least one preexisting condition. This was overblown by the media and you were duped. Instead we have millions not thousands suffering.

You folllow Hitlers arguments around the theme "life unworthy of being lived" and the reality in the former Commie-state "GDR". Since the reunion of Germany the average life span in this area grew around 20 years, because the Commies had seen before in old people only a cost factor and had reduced the medical care for old people.

And what means "to have to suffer"? To die in the gutter without any possibility to breathe? Not to be able to go to a football game? ...