Corporate welfare in action ....

[Markle]

I don't believe any American working 40 hours a week should be without a home. Why do you?

If they've made poor decisions, I don't care that they work 40 hours. They made that choice. Who is successful that works 40 hours? I haven't done that in 50 years.

Forty hours means you put in a lot of overtime or get a part time job.

 

[Markle]

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

If the worker can't provide the skills necessary to EARN a living wage, that is on them, not on ANY employer. The employer did not raise them and teach them their work ethics.

 

[deanrd]

There's no such thing as corporate welfare.

Sure there is. Manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades.
87% of manufacturing jobs were lost to automation.
Companies are making money hand over fist not having to pay employees.
Then the states give tax payer money for corporations to build automated factories. Republicans are the most stupid of fuks. What else could explain it?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

When you raise the minimum to more than the work is worth, businesses cut hours and the number of employees, or leave the city/state altogether.

Why is that not happening in Seattle?

I understand that it is.

Seattle $15 Minimum Wage Forcing Some Restaurants Out Of Business

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

Why are employees due a "living wage" regardless of the work they do? When did it become the responsibility of the business owner to defy Darwin?

Simply being alive does not entitle you to be taken care of by others by statute.

Working 40 hours a week directly means no one else is taking care of them. Unless the arent making a living wage, then they are on public assistance and we are all taking care of them. When did it become the tax payers jobs to subsidize wages because owners want more to line their pockets?

Indeed. You ask the same question as I. Are business owners not taxpayers as well?

 

[jc456]

If you understood anything about how business works, you would understand why they don't.

One of the key elements in business is investors. You attract investors by providing them with growth. The greater the growth, the more investors you get.

So you overpay all your workers, and then the growth of your company goes down. Your investors start dumping your stock and you have less money to invest in your business. Your former investors will buy the stock of your competitors, and then you are screwed.


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I have ran a business before and that explanation was trash. Paying a living wage isn't "overpaying" .... "underpaying" people brings us to people working 40 hours a week and still needing government assistance. Totally unacceptable to me.

I believe all civilized societies need some sort of safety net for our disabled, sick, mentally ill etc. But when people are working 40 hours a week, in the richest country in the world, and can't make rent THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG!

Paying a living wage isn't "overpaying" ....

What's a "living wage"?
How do you know?
Show your math.

I believe all civilized societies need some sort of safety net for our disabled, sick, mentally ill etc.

Federal Government transfer payments in the US are currently over $2 trillion a year.

How do I know? It's my job to know... here's the math.

Minimum wage worker brings in around 1200 per month. Standard rental price for 2 bedroom is 800 a month (in my area) that leaves them 400 dollars. Plus utilities, 150 (at least) now they have 200. They pay 150 for a car payment/insurance (cheap) now theyre left with 50 for 4 weeks.. what about food what about phone bills what about the KIDS what about paying for an education what about health insurance???


If republicans weren't funneling all our money to the top 1% for the last 5 decades we would not need nearly the amount of social welfare that we use today. If the republicans didn't fight tooth and nail every time a bill came up to raise minimum wage we wouldn't need nearly the amount of social welfare we use today.
Gop is so "against" handouts. But they just can't help wanting the rich richer and the poor poorer.

That's when he decides to move back in with mom. Problem solved.

I don't believe any American working 40 hours a week should be without a home. Why do you?

who is working 40 hours a week and doesn't have a home?

 

[jc456]

Ya think? Where would they work?

In our booming economy

When you raise the minimum to more than the work is worth, businesses cut hours and the number of employees, or leave the city/state altogether.

Why is that not happening in Seattle?

I understand that it is.

Seattle $15 Minimum Wage Forcing Some Restaurants Out Of Business

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

huh, that makes no sense.

 

[jc456]

When you raise the minimum to more than the work is worth, businesses cut hours and the number of employees, or leave the city/state altogether.

Why is that not happening in Seattle?

I understand that it is.

Seattle $15 Minimum Wage Forcing Some Restaurants Out Of Business

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

Why are employees due a "living wage" regardless of the work they do? When did it become the responsibility of the business owner to defy Darwin?

Simply being alive does not entitle you to be taken care of by others by statute.

Working 40 hours a week directly means no one else is taking care of them. Unless the arent making a living wage, then they are on public assistance and we are all taking care of them. When did it become the tax payers jobs to subsidize wages because owners want more to line their pockets?

wow dude, you make some big leaps you can't prove. funny shit a libturd in free fall.

 

[jc456]

There's no such thing as corporate welfare.

Sure there is. Manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades.
87% of manufacturing jobs were lost to automation.
Companies are making money hand over fist not having to pay employees.
Then the states give tax payer money for corporations to build automated factories. Republicans are the most stupid of fuks. What else could explain it?

ahem, as noted in the election process it was regulations. you should look up how many EO's trump has canceled on regulations. you know, those regulations that keep employers from hiring.

 

[Brain357]

There's no such thing as corporate welfare.

Sure there is. Manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades.
87% of manufacturing jobs were lost to automation.
Companies are making money hand over fist not having to pay employees.
Then the states give tax payer money for corporations to build automated factories. Republicans are the most stupid of fuks. What else could explain it?

ahem, as noted in the election process it was regulations. you should look up how many EO's trump has canceled on regulations. you know, those regulations that keep employers from hiring.

Give a specific example of a regulation keeping employers from hiring.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you understood anything about how business works, you would understand why they don't.

One of the key elements in business is investors. You attract investors by providing them with growth. The greater the growth, the more investors you get.

So you overpay all your workers, and then the growth of your company goes down. Your investors start dumping your stock and you have less money to invest in your business. Your former investors will buy the stock of your competitors, and then you are screwed.


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I have ran a business before and that explanation was trash. Paying a living wage isn't "overpaying" .... "underpaying" people brings us to people working 40 hours a week and still needing government assistance. Totally unacceptable to me.

I believe all civilized societies need some sort of safety net for our disabled, sick, mentally ill etc. But when people are working 40 hours a week, in the richest country in the world, and can't make rent THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG!

Paying a living wage isn't "overpaying" ....

What's a "living wage"?
How do you know?
Show your math.

I believe all civilized societies need some sort of safety net for our disabled, sick, mentally ill etc.

Federal Government transfer payments in the US are currently over $2 trillion a year.

How do I know? It's my job to know... here's the math.

Minimum wage worker brings in around 1200 per month. Standard rental price for 2 bedroom is 800 a month (in my area) that leaves them 400 dollars. Plus utilities, 150 (at least) now they have 200. They pay 150 for a car payment/insurance (cheap) now theyre left with 50 for 4 weeks.. what about food what about phone bills what about the KIDS what about paying for an education what about health insurance???


If republicans weren't funneling all our money to the top 1% for the last 5 decades we would not need nearly the amount of social welfare that we use today. If the republicans didn't fight tooth and nail every time a bill came up to raise minimum wage we wouldn't need nearly the amount of social welfare we use today.
Gop is so "against" handouts. But they just can't help wanting the rich richer and the poor poorer.

That's when he decides to move back in with mom. Problem solved.

I don't believe any American working 40 hours a week should be without a home. Why do you?

I don't believe any American working 40 hours a week should be without a home.

How large a home?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Working 40 hours a week directly means no one else is taking care of them. Unless the arent making a living wage, then they are on public assistance and we are all taking care of them. When did it become the tax payers jobs to subsidize wages because owners want more to line their pockets?

When Democrats have leadership. You know, like DumBama doubling the food stamp role when he first took office?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

Only if you believe that the reason people start businesses is to pay a living wage and benefits, but that's not why people start businesses.

If you really believe what you say, you should start your own business and pay your low level workers anything you want. Of course your competition will put you out of business, but so what, you paid a living wage.

 

[dblack]

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

And your employees should be fired!

 

[Brain357]

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

Only if you believe that the reason people start businesses is to pay a living wage and benefits, but that's not why people start businesses.

If you really believe what you say, you should start your own business and pay your low level workers anything you want. Of course your competition will put you out of business, but so what, you paid a living wage.

Since you believe gov should give sweet tax deals to huge companies, should the gov also force up wages? Higher wages will equal fewer in welfare, certainly a good goal for the government. Where do you draw the line at gov powers in the economy?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

Only if you believe that the reason people start businesses is to pay a living wage and benefits, but that's not why people start businesses.

If you really believe what you say, you should start your own business and pay your low level workers anything you want. Of course your competition will put you out of business, but so what, you paid a living wage.

Since you believe gov should give sweet tax deals to huge companies, should the gov also force up wages? Higher wages will equal fewer in welfare, certainly a good goal for the government. Where do you draw the line at gov powers in the economy?

Since you believe gov should give sweet tax deals to huge companies, should the gov also force up wages?

Definitely!!!

Boot 20 million illegals.
Supply and demand will then force up wages.

 

[bripat9643]

If you understood anything about how business works, you would understand why they don't.

One of the key elements in business is investors. You attract investors by providing them with growth. The greater the growth, the more investors you get.

So you overpay all your workers, and then the growth of your company goes down. Your investors start dumping your stock and you have less money to invest in your business. Your former investors will buy the stock of your competitors, and then you are screwed.


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I have ran a business before and that explanation was trash. Paying a living wage isn't "overpaying" .... "underpaying" people brings us to people working 40 hours a week and still needing government assistance. Totally unacceptable to me.

I believe all civilized societies need some sort of safety net for our disabled, sick, mentally ill etc. But when people are working 40 hours a week, in the richest country in the world, and can't make rent THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG!

Paying a living wage isn't "overpaying" ....

What's a "living wage"?
How do you know?
Show your math.

I believe all civilized societies need some sort of safety net for our disabled, sick, mentally ill etc.

Federal Government transfer payments in the US are currently over $2 trillion a year.

How do I know? It's my job to know... here's the math.

Minimum wage worker brings in around 1200 per month. Standard rental price for 2 bedroom is 800 a month (in my area) that leaves them 400 dollars. Plus utilities, 150 (at least) now they have 200. They pay 150 for a car payment/insurance (cheap) now theyre left with 50 for 4 weeks.. what about food what about phone bills what about the KIDS what about paying for an education what about health insurance???


If republicans weren't funneling all our money to the top 1% for the last 5 decades we would not need nearly the amount of social welfare that we use today. If the republicans didn't fight tooth and nail every time a bill came up to raise minimum wage we wouldn't need nearly the amount of social welfare we use today.
Gop is so "against" handouts. But they just can't help wanting the rich richer and the poor poorer.

That's when he decides to move back in with mom. Problem solved.

I don't believe any American working 40 hours a week should be without a home. Why do you?

They have a home. They live with mom or dad.

 

[Brain357]

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

Only if you believe that the reason people start businesses is to pay a living wage and benefits, but that's not why people start businesses.

If you really believe what you say, you should start your own business and pay your low level workers anything you want. Of course your competition will put you out of business, but so what, you paid a living wage.

Since you believe gov should give sweet tax deals to huge companies, should the gov also force up wages? Higher wages will equal fewer in welfare, certainly a good goal for the government. Where do you draw the line at gov powers in the economy?

Since you believe gov should give sweet tax deals to huge companies, should the gov also force up wages?

Definitely!!!

Boot 20 million illegals.
Supply and demand will then force up wages.

Unlikely. You are booting those making the very least. More likely they will be replaced by automation.

 

[Aries]

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

And your employees should be fired!

No, they should find suitable employers.

 

[Aries]

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

Only if you believe that the reason people start businesses is to pay a living wage and benefits, but that's not why people start businesses.

If you really believe what you say, you should start your own business and pay your low level workers anything you want. Of course your competition will put you out of business, but so what, you paid a living wage.

Since you believe gov should give sweet tax deals to huge companies, should the gov also force up wages? Higher wages will equal fewer in welfare, certainly a good goal for the government. Where do you draw the line at gov powers in the economy?

Since you believe gov should give sweet tax deals to huge companies, should the gov also force up wages?

Definitely!!!

Boot 20 million illegals.
Supply and demand will then force up wages.

California crops are rotting in the fields because no one wants to pick them.
Seems like your solution is more detrimental to America than it is helpful.

 

[dblack]

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

And your employees should be fired!

No, they should find suitable employers.

And if they can't, **** 'em!