Coronavirus Wouldn't Be A Threat If Everyone Was Like Me

[mudwhistle]

The only change I've had to make is staying home from work.

OMG.....I don't know when I will be able to recover from this!!!!

I'm not the kind of person that has to be in the middle of alot of people. I don't need to go to bars or restaurants to feed myself or socialize. I don't need to go driving in my car all over the city because I can't find anything productive to do with myself at home.

I've always wanted to wash my hands, so I don't understand people who waited till a global pandemic to start. There are guys in my shop that pride themselves in how dirty their hands are. One of them only cleans his hands when he eats fried chicken....with the chicken. I believe in wearing gloves for various reasons....mostly to protect them from injury...but also from dirt....because my hands are a bit on the dry side and they tend to become more difficult to get clean if I stain them with dirt or grease, so this virus is right up my alley.

I don't like using public restrooms because they're extremely unclean. I didn't have to stockpile TP because I have a toilet seat that washes my backside and blowdries it to boot. I always like having a white toilet with no ring. If I do use one I use the same bathroom and the same stall.

Now if you feel I'm starting to sound a bit like Dr Sheldon Cooper, so be it. This is one of the reasons I never wanted to play basketball or become a wrestler, because all it took was that locker-room smell to convince me that those were sports that I wasn't cut out for. I did alot of cross-country and track...and I played football in H.S. and college...but my sense of smell wasn't so acute once I got more mature. I was literally repelled by the smell of other kids in kindergarten and nurseries when I was 3-4 and my Dad had to bribe me with a sugar cookie to get me to not run for the hills when it was time to go.

And what really turns me off is if you smell bad during sex. Sorry, but if you aren't clean, if you smell like chicken soup or like a chicken coop you ain't getting any. I don't think having sex with food is sexy. It's just plain gross. The number one quality I consider is cleanliness. I believe this is the primary reason for divorce. If you can't stand the way someone smells...you can't live with them. How do you expect to stay married to them. This is why living together is a good idea before you think of getting engaged. It's a good idea to find out if they have bad habits. It's little things like this that can make or break a marriage. Course right now....the last thing I'm thinking of is sex. Bumping uglies may be a nice way to pass the time, but it's a great way to pass along diseases. I also suggest that you and your mate use different bathrooms just to be sure.

I spent alot of time in the military....and I have seen some things that would make a Billy Goat puke. People can be pretty disgusting....and some of them think it's funny. Guys that leave their spit bottles behind for everyone else to clean up or spit in the trash can. These are the fuckers that spread Coronavirus around. One of them even said he wanted to get it so he could get it out of the way. He didn't care the fact that catching the shit, along with his disgusting habits, would help spread the shit around to everyone else. But these types have always been self-centered. Because of this...and because of the fact that I'm a high-risk age-wise...and my wife is 81....I have been told to stay home.

I just hope I recover from the disappointment.

 

[mudwhistle]

From now on.....whenever anyone tries to shake my hand...they'll get this instead:

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[alang1216]

The only change I've had to make is staying home from work.

OMG.....I don't know when I will be able to recover from this!!!!

Happy you're fine but not everyone gets paid if they stay home and most don't have the savings to tap into if they don't get paid. I just heard that only 40% of Americans have more than $1,000 in savings.

 

[mudwhistle]

The only change I've had to make is staying home from work.

OMG.....I don't know when I will be able to recover from this!!!!

Happy you're fine but not everyone gets paid if they stay home and most don't have the savings to tap into if they don't get paid. I just heard that only 40% of Americans have more than $1,000 in savings.

It's debatable if I'm getting paid right now.

 

[ding]

I’m working from home and I get way more done here than in the office.

today is my Friday off so relax.

 

[alang1216]

The only change I've had to make is staying home from work.

OMG.....I don't know when I will be able to recover from this!!!!

Happy you're fine but not everyone gets paid if they stay home and most don't have the savings to tap into if they don't get paid. I just heard that only 40% of Americans have more than $1,000 in savings.

It's debatable if I'm getting paid right now.

I heard this could go on for 18 months. If you don' t get paid, even if you had enough saved to live on (and most people don't), it would definitely be a major financial burden.

 

[mudwhistle]

The only change I've had to make is staying home from work.

OMG.....I don't know when I will be able to recover from this!!!!

Happy you're fine but not everyone gets paid if they stay home and most don't have the savings to tap into if they don't get paid. I just heard that only 40% of Americans have more than $1,000 in savings.

It's debatable if I'm getting paid right now.

I heard this could go on for 18 months. If you don' t get paid, even if you had enough saved to live on (and most people don't), it would definitely be a major financial burden.

They're saying 18 months to scare people and ruin the economy.

 

[ding]

The only change I've had to make is staying home from work.

OMG.....I don't know when I will be able to recover from this!!!!

Happy you're fine but not everyone gets paid if they stay home and most don't have the savings to tap into if they don't get paid. I just heard that only 40% of Americans have more than $1,000 in savings.

It's debatable if I'm getting paid right now.

I heard this could go on for 18 months. If you don' t get paid, even if you had enough saved to live on (and most people don't), it would definitely be a major financial burden.

Off and on. Sure. Unless a vaccine is developed, it will subside over the summer and pick up again in the fall and winter. Absent a vaccine that cycle could go on for years. The question was how many people can we treat the symptoms of. The answer to that is how many ventilators do we have.

 

[ding]

The only change I've had to make is staying home from work.

OMG.....I don't know when I will be able to recover from this!!!!

Happy you're fine but not everyone gets paid if they stay home and most don't have the savings to tap into if they don't get paid. I just heard that only 40% of Americans have more than $1,000 in savings.

It's debatable if I'm getting paid right now.

I heard this could go on for 18 months. If you don' t get paid, even if you had enough saved to live on (and most people don't), it would definitely be a major financial burden.

They're saying 18 months to scare people and ruin the economy.

I don’t think so. Why would they do that? What’s in it for them and who is them?

 

[alang1216]

The only change I've had to make is staying home from work.

OMG.....I don't know when I will be able to recover from this!!!!

Happy you're fine but not everyone gets paid if they stay home and most don't have the savings to tap into if they don't get paid. I just heard that only 40% of Americans have more than $1,000 in savings.

It's debatable if I'm getting paid right now.

I heard this could go on for 18 months. If you don' t get paid, even if you had enough saved to live on (and most people don't), it would definitely be a major financial burden.

They're saying 18 months to scare people and ruin the economy.

You mean the Trump administration?
U.S. Virus Plan Anticipates 18-Month Pandemic and Widespread Shortages

 

[ding]

The only change I've had to make is staying home from work.

OMG.....I don't know when I will be able to recover from this!!!!

Happy you're fine but not everyone gets paid if they stay home and most don't have the savings to tap into if they don't get paid. I just heard that only 40% of Americans have more than $1,000 in savings.

It's debatable if I'm getting paid right now.

I heard this could go on for 18 months. If you don' t get paid, even if you had enough saved to live on (and most people don't), it would definitely be a major financial burden.

They're saying 18 months to scare people and ruin the economy.

You mean the Trump administration?
U.S. Virus Plan Anticipates 18-Month Pandemic and Widespread Shortages

Turning this into political football is not only not helpful but counterproductive.

you don’t seem to be able to help yourself.

 

[ding]

The reality is there is no preparation that could have avoided the avalanche of illness that will require treatment.

it’s simple math people.

 

[mudwhistle]

March 20, 2020
Super Flu or a Mild Cold?
By Anthony J. Ciani
With symptoms ranging from a gasping death to nothing at all, one has to wonder whether COVID-19 is a super flu or a mild cold. Have we ruined our economy over nothing or saved millions of people from death? If COVID-19 is a mild cold, how did we mistake it for a super flu?

There are over 200 different viruses that cause the common cold. The most common are rhinoviruses, coronaviruses, adenoviruses, and respiratory syncytial viruses. The average person gets one to three colds per year, and due to the large variety of viruses responsible, there is no vaccine. Influenza is another common respiratory virus. Cold or flu, respiratory viruses present similar symptoms and follow the same life cycle. Launched into the environment from their current host, they might survive long enough to find another. Typically by inhalation, they might make their way to the mucosa. They might make it past the wall of mucus to the underlying cells, where they might manage to infect one. Irritated by the intruder, the cells send an alarm and macrophages soon begin the equivalent of carpet bombing. The release of cytotoxic chemicals causes tissue damage and even more irritation. The mucosa releases more mucus, filling the sinuses and dripping into the lungs. Cilia move mucus out of the lungs up to the throat, where most of it makes its way to the stomach, but coughing is also an option, launching virus into the environment.

The more specialized 'T' and 'B' lymphocytes make their way to the infection where they test the infectious agent to determine if they are a good match. Once a 'B' cell matches close enough, the precision strikes start. The adaptive immune system further alters its genetics to make an even better match. For example, the common coronaviruses, HCoV-229E, OC43, NL63 and HKU1 look a lot like the SARS coronaviruses and prior infection with one provides partial immunity to the others (acquired immunity).

This is the important part: the bulk of the damage and symptoms are caused by the immune response, not the virus. This is why all of those vastly different respiratory viruses have similar symptoms, and even airborne irritants cause cold-like symptoms (e.g. allergies). It is highly unlikely that any respiratory virus will ever be a super flu, because the severity of the illness is limited to the body's ability to damage itself. Not that the body lacks such an ability. Consider what might happen if multiple irritants were present simultaneously, such as chronic emphysema (from pollution or dust), allergies or diabetes (sugar is inflammatory).

Why is SARS so bad? When the virus infects the upper respiratory tract we get a stuffy nose. When the virus infects the lower respiratory tract we get stuffy lungs. SARS-like coronaviruses typically infect the upper tract but can get down into the lungs, more than typical for cold viruses. SARS-like coronaviruses are cold viruses, ones with increased potential for a very bad, but not uncommon outcome.

We measure the danger of communicable diseases by the proportion of infected people that die and how well they spread. Flu is the standard, killing about 0.1% of the infected with about a 30% chance of spreading to same-household family members. COVID-19 looks to kill about 1.5% of infected people and has about a 55% chance of infecting a family member.

Deadly and virulent, so why suspect that this might be a mild cold?

There is a problem with the denominator. We only test those who report to doctors, but colds are so common and symptoms can be so mild that only 1-in-5 to 1-in-10 infected people go to the doctor. The mortality rate from COVID-19 might be closer to 0.15%, more in line with influenza.

There might be many more cases, to a level that COVID-19 already ripped through the United States. Although it was widely reported that this outbreak began on December 31st, the World Health Organization's charts show COVID-19 deaths declining by January 10, and the first confirmed cases appearing around December 2nd. Cases outside of Wuhan grew in parallel with Wuhan, rather than delayed, suggesting that COVID-19 was already widespread in China by mid-December, a good trick for a country with state-limited mobility. If only 1-in-5 people ended up in the hospital, this could have begun in late-to-mid November. The Diamond Princess was infected by a guest who boarded on January 20th and Milan was infected by visitors on January 23rd, so this had already spread through China enough that they were spreading it to the world. There have been a few reports that the Chinese were noticing something happening in October.

If the start date was a month or more before December 31st, then we are not talking about 7,000 cases in the U.S. starting in early February, but 6,000,000 to 10,000,000 cases starting in late December. This means that rather than a 0.15% mortality, COVID-19 is nearly harmless. If fewer than 1-in-5 people are reporting to their doctor, the start of COVID-19 is pushed back even further, enlarging the number of infected to point that COVID-19 is this year's common cold, and most people have already had it.

How could we miss harmless? COVID-19 was so bad in Wuhan that the Chinese and WHO concluded it was SARS. The possibility of pollution-induced chronic emphysema or the incompetence of socialized medicine complicating a cold into a super flu was never considered. China, and then the rest of the world, focused on those who were wheezing for breath, even going so far as to decline testing people (in the vicinity of the infected) just because they were breathing normally, sending them on their merry way to infect others. We focused on the extremely ill, everyone did, turning to China and the WHO for guidance. Oops?

We put fearmongers in charge. Dr. Anthony Fauci is the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID). As the head of NIAID, one of Fauci's core responsibilities is to get Congress to spend more money on infectious disease research. For decades, he has testified that the cure for AIDS is right around the corner, that ebola virus is coming for us, or that some cross-species plague will emerge from a Chinese wet market, and we just need more money to research it. The current events have played right into his fantasy, but as pointed out above, it is a fantasy. This is the equivalent of noticing holes in the ozone layer and then putting Chicken Little, an expert on the sky, in charge of the response.

We eventually realized that the holes were always there, and we will eventually realize the true magnitude of COVID-19, years from now, hidden in the scientific literature. But there are already hints. China reported a decline within a week of starting its "social distancing" in early February, but the decline was already apparent in late January. The U.S. is seeing a booming increase after its social distancing, as medical professionals are starting to test more people with sniffles and no history of contact with the known infected. Could it be that the disease was already burning out in China, and we are taking our focus off the worst cases in the U.S.? COVID-19 is shaping up to be a mild cold, and potentially a very mild one at that.

 

[Meister]

A friend of mine sent this:

Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually, these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, that's what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..

H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. Its RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.

Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not sexy right now.

Stay home folks... and share this to those that just are not catching on.

It's Not "Just The Flu"

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

A friend of mine sent this:

Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually, these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, that's what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..

H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. Its RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.

Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not sexy right now.

Stay home folks... and share this to those that just are not catching on.

It's Not "Just The Flu"

I have suffered lung disease most of my life and I wonder seeing the Coronavirus 19 attacks the lungs would Z-Pak along with a Steroid like Prednisolone would combat this Virus?

 

[OnePercenter]

The only change I've had to make is staying home from work.

OMG.....I don't know when I will be able to recover from this!!!!

Happy you're fine but not everyone gets paid if they stay home and most don't have the savings to tap into if they don't get paid. I just heard that only 40% of Americans have more than $1,000 in savings.

It's debatable if I'm getting paid right now.

I heard this could go on for 18 months. If you don' t get paid, even if you had enough saved to live on (and most people don't), it would definitely be a major financial burden.

They're saying 18 months to scare people and ruin the economy.

You mean the Trump administration?
U.S. Virus Plan Anticipates 18-Month Pandemic and Widespread Shortages

Putin must be laughing his ass off!

 

[luchitociencia]

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses come from animals....

Very well input.

However, now that the Corona virus has chosen to have humans as their host, the virus will eventually become another "human virus".

Notice that this is not the first time in history this virus with different modifications or mutations has infected humans and other mammals.

Notice as well that its "killing power" is not strong with humans. The spreading of it is different than other virus but it's not as dangerous like causing the death of healthy people who get infected with it.

The government measures should have simply be keeping the daily life running as usual but concentrating extremely in avoiding the contact with older and people with weak health.

Doing so the economy should have been run without interference and the number of deaths might have not changed but the problem should have been taken without unnecessary extreme measurements.

In the bible narration one can read and understand how the ones with leprosy used to isolate themselves from the rest, and when someone was getting close to them, then the sick person used to give a warning by screaming: "Unclean! Unclean!".

With this prevention measure, the healthy person avoided contact with the sick person and the spreading of the disease was greatly avoided.

On the other hand, today, if people with AIDS and sexual transmission diseases, people with Flu and other sickness, voluntarily scream "Unclean! Unclean!, I bet those diseases should have been better contained... unfortunately attorneys and other idiots fighting I don't know what, declared that such way of identification incites to discrimination.

Well, in cases like this, when is about protecting the majority, protecting the healthy ones, then this kind of "discrimination" is good for society.

In the current situation, the prompt identification of the older and people with health problems which might die because the Corona virus, those are the only ones supposed to be isolated for their own protection... until a vaccine was made to protect them.

 

[debbiedowner]

This model predicts the last day each state can act before the point of no return

Point of no return for each state. Some have past.

 

[Likkmee]

You never dumped a shot of coconut oil on the Triangle of Pink before supper ? Man. You haven't lived ! It also prevents wrinklez !