Conservatives,Let's Compare First Five Years Into The Bush Years To Obama's First 5.

[AmericanFirst]

bush walked into a good economy
whether Clinton earned.it or not would be another thread
obama had it rough starting out..
whos policies at fault would be another thread LOL

That is why they were calling it the clinton recession right? It was only good because the repubs took over congress.

 

[AmericanFirst]

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Obama lost the Congress in 2012. Obama is making a bad economy worse. You clowns are too stupid to realize this guy is a huge mistake.

Democratic House Candidates got 1.4 million more votes in House Races than Republicans did.

The only thing that saved Boo-hoo-ner's job was that the state legislatures gerrymandered districts to save the election of some of them.

Franken won only because of the dead voting and dimwits in general benefit from this sort of thing.

 

[kiwiman127]

Bush walked into RECESSION which he steered away quickly and skillfully.

Obama walked into the same recession and made things much worse

Though I am not a fan of "O", let's compare recession and that alleged act of "W" "he steered away quickly and skillfully".
Compare the recession of 2001 to previous recessions, it certainly appears to have taken quite awhile longer than previous deeper recessions. Also during "W"'s time, sending jobs offshore skyrocketed to the point of almost half the jobs created were created offshore despite lowering capital gains/dividend taxes down to 15%.

that's a blah-blah-blah.

the truth is the unemployment was steady around 5% all the way until the very end - which is not W fault, considering the causes.

And it was steered quickly and skillfully - therefore the impact was not big and it was forgotten fast.

Would it have been Gore - we would have recession the whole decade.

Oh? Facts show different.

 

[LoneLaugher]

we can all hope that when the exchanges open ( now thats if they are ready) No One Will Show Up !! or If They do show up and see the monthly charges,,,,THEY WALK AWAY !!

I think we have another one who thinks the health care exchange is a place...that people will have to take a bus to get there.

 

[hipeter924]

1. Took down the deficit and the government debt at a faster pace than Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, or Bush Jr ever did.
(...10 hours later...)
And overall stopped the US government following Europe into the austerity stricken death spiral that many Republicans want to impose on America.

 

[kiwiman127]

Bush had to contend with the dotcom bust, Katrina and 911 without getting a 1.2 trillion dollar bailout. Obama had it easy by comparison, but pissed away billions on green jobs that all went bust.

true

Stop sniffing the glue. The recession of 2007 was the largest economic downturn since the Great Depression. You folks are insane and just proved you have absolutely no concept of economics.
Go ahead and find one non-partisan economist who would agree with you! Good fuckin luck with that!

 

[hipeter924]

Bush had to contend with the dotcom bust, Katrina and 911 without getting a 1.2 trillion dollar bailout. Obama had it easy by comparison, but pissed away billions on green jobs that all went bust.

true

Stop sniffing the glue. The recession of 2007 was the largest economic downturn since the Great Depression. You folks are insane and just proved you have absolutely no concept of economics.
Go ahead and find one non-partisan economist who would agree with you! Good fuckin luck with that!

What is so silly is that they keep pushing austerity, even though that worked so 'great' in Europe, those 'pissed away billions' are what saved America from a death spiral.

 

[Darkwind]

Now you don't even have to go online and do your research.
Just tell us how well off you were financially, the equity you built in your home, the numerous job offers you had to refuse because of "The Booming Bush Economy".
Wasn't unemployment around 5% back then? Homes were selling faster than the time it took for an Obama Supporter to answer "Who Is The Vice-President" ??
And what was the national debt in 2005?

No need to compare the stats of 2013. And the left thinks all is doing well? The economy is booming??

What happy horseshit. Hey tiger, were you around at the end of the Bush presidency? Lets talk about that.

Do you remember (fondly I am sure) when Bush had to go on the TV and explain how the economy and the banking industry were about to collapse?

Do you or can you remember that?

Or how about the last 6 months of the Bush presidency. You remember that. I do. I remember losing 25% of the equity in my properties and about 40% loss in my other investments.

Did you have any assets at the end of the Bush presidency?

Yes sir it was GREAT at the end wasn't it?

No.

Talk about the first six years of Bush's Presidency before the democrats took over.

Seems you people avoid that like the plague.

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

I can't find any footage of the honorable george bush or dick cheney ever saying "This All Started Under the Carter Administration".

 

[mudwhistle]

Now you don't even have to go online and do your research.
Just tell us how well off you were financially, the equity you built in your home, the numerous job offers you had to refuse because of "The Booming Bush Economy".
Wasn't unemployment around 5% back then? Homes were selling faster than the time it took for an Obama Supporter to answer "Who Is The Vice-President" ??
And what was the national debt in 2005?

No need to compare the stats of 2013. And the left thinks all is doing well? The economy is booming??

What happy horseshit. Hey tiger, were you around at the end of the Bush presidency? Lets talk about that.

Do you remember (fondly I am sure) when Bush had to go on the TV and explain how the economy and the banking industry were about to collapse?

Do you or can you remember that?

Or how about the last 6 months of the Bush presidency. You remember that. I do. I remember losing 25% of the equity in my properties and about 40% loss in my other investments.

Did you have any assets at the end of the Bush presidency?

Yes sir it was GREAT at the end wasn't it?

Well it wasn't Bush's fault. He just heard about it on the news........just like Obama.

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

this thread only pertains to the first five years, why are some bringing up 2008?

 

[kiwiman127]

this thread only pertains to the first five years, why are some bringing up 2008?

Why are you avoiding "W"s full term.
But, we do need some honesty here. "W" wasn't responsible for all the jobs created offshore and the flat job markets, that'd be the private sector.

 

[Vox]

Bush had to contend with the dotcom bust, Katrina and 911 without getting a 1.2 trillion dollar bailout. Obama had it easy by comparison, but pissed away billions on green jobs that all went bust.

true

Stop sniffing the glue. The recession of 2007 was the largest economic downturn since the Great Depression. You folks are insane and just proved you have absolutely no concept of economics.
Go ahead and find one non-partisan economist who would agree with you! Good fuckin luck with that!

follow your own advice and stop sniffing. the glue. or whatever you are sniffing.

The recession of 2008 ( not 2007 ) was a burst of housing bubble creation of which is a dems responsibility 85% and 100% responsibility of resisting in prevention of the bubble to burst

 

[Vox]

Though I am not a fan of "O", let's compare recession and that alleged act of "W" "he steered away quickly and skillfully".
Compare the recession of 2001 to previous recessions, it certainly appears to have taken quite awhile longer than previous deeper recessions. Also during "W"'s time, sending jobs offshore skyrocketed to the point of almost half the jobs created were created offshore despite lowering capital gains/dividend taxes down to 15%.

that's a blah-blah-blah.

the truth is the unemployment was steady around 5% all the way until the very end - which is not W fault, considering the causes.

And it was steered quickly and skillfully - therefore the impact was not big and it was forgotten fast.

Would it have been Gore - we would have recession the whole decade.

Oh? Facts show different.

do you understand plain English? what does your graphs on offshoring have to do with pure fact of booming economy during Bush years with an unemployment of 5 % throughout is as a proof?

http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4
2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.7 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.9 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.6 5.8 6.1 6.1 6.5 6.8 7.3
2009 7.8 8.3 8.7 9.0 9.4 9.5 9.5 9.6 9.8 10.0 9.9 9.9
2010 9.8 9.8 9.9 9.9 9.6 9.4 9.5 9.5 9.5 9.5 9.8 9.3
2011 9.1 9.0 8.9 9.0 9.0 9.1 9.0 9.0 9.0 8.9 8.6 8.5
2012 8.3 8.3 8.2 8.1 8.2 8.2 8.2 8.1 7.8 7.9 7.8 7.8
2013 7.9 7.7 7.6 7.5 7.6 7.6 7.4 7.3

 

[edthecynic]

they say that "Everyone Is Entitled To A New Home", or any home. Really? even those who never worked hard to own one? thats how the left feels. they could care less for anyone who worked their butts off for years to acheive the american dream, while others were just handed 100% mortgages. even if they were illegal aliens.

And if by "THEY" you mean BUSH, you would be correct!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYvtvcBKgIQ]Home Ownership and President Bush - YouTube[/ame]

 

[kiwiman127]

true

Stop sniffing the glue. The recession of 2007 was the largest economic downturn since the Great Depression. You folks are insane and just proved you have absolutely no concept of economics.
Go ahead and find one non-partisan economist who would agree with you! Good fuckin luck with that!

follow your own advice and stop sniffing. the glue. or whatever you are sniffing.

The recession of 2008 ( not 2007 ) was a burst of housing bubble creation of which is a dems responsibility 85% and 100% responsibility of resisting in prevention of the bubble to burst

Posted like a loyal ideologue.
The recession in 2007 was mainly driven by the actions of the Federal Reserve for lowering interest rates to ridiculous low rates.. As far as political parties, both also own some it. The GOP passed Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 through committee despite Democrats resistance but never brought it for vote on the senate floor even though the GOP had the control of the Senate. Who can forget the 2004 GOP Platform with the Ownership Society as a plank? Then there's the homeowners who bought house they just plain couldn't afford. The Real Estate agents and Mortgage brokers who rushed less qualified loans with sub-prime, adjustable rate loans with low initial payments, but with interest rates that exploded. Then there's Wall Street who bundled risky loans into Mortgage Backed Securities and issued bonds using those securities as collateral.
In the real world there's blame to go all around, not everything has to be partisan and in the case of the Great Recession of 2007, it was huge and with many culprits of all stripes and business sectors involved.

 

[Wildman]

AND ............., gasoline was $1.759

 

[edthecynic]

Frank and Dodd were chairs of their respective banking committees.
They told me everything was hunky-dory

The GOP held the committee chairmanships! Frank and Dodd were powerless minority Party seats on the committee!

Frank/Dodd powerless

That's right, completely powerless.

The housing reform bill passed the House over Frank's objections and was killed in the Senate by Republican majority leader Bill Frist.

 

[kiwiman127]

that's a blah-blah-blah.

the truth is the unemployment was steady around 5% all the way until the very end - which is not W fault, considering the causes.

And it was steered quickly and skillfully - therefore the impact was not big and it was forgotten fast.

Would it have been Gore - we would have recession the whole decade.

Oh? Facts show different.

do you understand plain English? what does your graphs on offshoring have to do with pure fact of booming economy during Bush years with an unemployment of 5 % throughout is as a proof?

Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4
2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.7 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.9 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.6 5.8 6.1 6.1 6.5 6.8 7.3
2009 7.8 8.3 8.7 9.0 9.4 9.5 9.5 9.6 9.8 10.0 9.9 9.9
2010 9.8 9.8 9.9 9.9 9.6 9.4 9.5 9.5 9.5 9.5 9.8 9.3
2011 9.1 9.0 8.9 9.0 9.0 9.1 9.0 9.0 9.0 8.9 8.6 8.5
2012 8.3 8.3 8.2 8.1 8.2 8.2 8.2 8.1 7.8 7.9 7.8 7.8
2013 7.9 7.7 7.6 7.5 7.6 7.6 7.4 7.3

If the employment scenario was so great as you claim, why is the worker participation rate so much smaller than it was just prior to "W" moving into the White House?

 

[Vox]

If the employment scenario was so great as you claim, why is the worker participation rate so much smaller than it was just prior to "W" moving into the White House?

who CARES?

the unemployment was TWO TIMES LOWER as at the time of the "messiah"

and if you are so obsessed by worker participation rate - what is it NOW