Connection between Buffalo shooter and Nazis in Ukraine?

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Numerous reports are showing the shooter supporting Nazism. We know that there have been white supremacists around the world that traveled to Ukraine to join pro Ukraine battalions to support Nazism.

How a White-Supremacist Militia Uses Facebook to Radicalize and Train New Members

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On the Ukraine Russia war I think the United States should be neutral. I’m not here to support either Ukraine or Russia. But again we know that there are far right issues in Ukraine there’s openly people putting Nazi swastikas on their T-shirts. Essentially it’s a Civil War in Ukraine going back to 2014. Common sense shows us that most Ukrainians and most Russians support their country. This is one where there are dignified people on both sides of the Russia Ukraine war. There are honorable Ukrainians and there are honorable Russians.


As we know the Soviet Union gave 27 million people in the fight against Nazism. Ukraine has a pro- Nazi issue unfortunately even though the Nazis in Ukraine are such a small number today they caused violence and they are openly wearing Nazi symbols.



I also believe parts of the American media and some American politicians are big-time hypocrites. If they are against white supremacy they need to talk about the white supremacy and Nazism in Ukraine.

I’m proud of America and I support the American military... I support American ideals and American institutions because we stand against white supremacy and Nazism. I’m from Buffalo New York ....so knowing that the shooter was a Nazi this thing brings up memories of World War II big time. And the messages crystal clear the spirit of the allies will prevail over the Nazis of the world.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I’ll say in the spirit of the men and women of the Allies of World War II. It was the Americans and Soviets that fought people like Peyton in Ww2. My message to the Nazis is they are nothing and they will lose. America will prevail.

“Nazism has a play​

A groundbreaking fact about the shooting is that it was carried out by a neo-Nazi white supremacist, who had published a fascist manifesto using the "black sun" Nazi symbol. The insignia is used by the Ukrainian neo-Nazi Azov battalion.”

Azov insignia-bearing teen carries out, streams mass shooting in US

The United States has been hit by another mass shooting, this one streamed on streaming platform Twitch by a white supremacist who had no motive but racism and hatred for the attack.

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This is definitely an issue for all Americans on the left and the right to look at.

 

[johngaltshrugged]

I agree with about everything you said, the exception being saying Nazis come from the far right.
They are National Socialists & not on the right side of the spectrum at all. The all-powerful symbiosis of govt & industry policies for absolute control comes from the left side of the spectrum & are the opposite of liberty.
They have much more in common with their communist totalitarian brothers than any freedom loving members of the right.
We need to stay out, there are no good guys in this fight as far as I can tell & that includes our own govt.
The best thing we can do is stay out of it & pray it ends quickly for the innocent victims caught in the middle

 

[rightwinger]

I agree with about everything you said, the exception being saying Nazis come from the far right.
They are National Socialists & not on the right side of the spectrum at all. The all-powerful symbiosis of govt & industry policies for absolute control comes from the left side of the spectrum & are the opposite of liberty.
They have much more in common with their communist totalitarian brothers than any freedom loving members of the right.
We need to stay out, there are no good guys in this fight as far as I can tell & that includes our own govt.
The best thing we can do is stay out of it & pray it ends quickly for the innocent victims caught in the middle

Nazis are as far right as you get

 

[frigidweirdo]

Numerous reports are showing the shooter supporting Nazism. We know that there have been white supremacists around the world that traveled to Ukraine to join pro Ukraine battalions to support Nazism.

How a White-Supremacist Militia Uses Facebook to Radicalize and Train New Members

This Ukrainian militant group’s use of social media has been key to their international growth

time.com

On the Ukraine Russia war I think the United States should be neutral. I’m not here to support either Ukraine or Russia. But again we know that there are far right issues in Ukraine there’s openly people putting Nazi swastikas on their T-shirts. Essentially it’s a Civil War in Ukraine going back to 2014. Common sense shows us that most Ukrainians and most Russians support their country. This is one where there are dignified people on both sides of the Russia Ukraine war. There are honorable Ukrainians and there are honorable Russians.


As we know the Soviet Union gave 27 million people in the fight against Nazism. Ukraine has a pro- Nazi issue unfortunately even though the Nazis in Ukraine are such a small number today they caused violence and they are openly wearing Nazi symbols.



I also believe parts of the American media and some American politicians are big-time hypocrites. If they are against white supremacy they need to talk about the white supremacy and Nazism in Ukraine.

I’m proud of America and I support the American military... I support American ideals and American institutions because we stand against white supremacy and Nazism. I’m from Buffalo New York ....so knowing that the shooter was a Nazi this thing brings up memories of World War II big time. And the messages crystal clear the spirit of the allies will prevail over the Nazis of the world.

There are Nazis everywhere.

Putin wanted to make this invasion and WW2 have a connection.

Just like in the US where bring up "Communism" will be emotive, in Russia bring up the "Nazis" is the same thing. There are Nazis in the US for FFS. And Russia.
Trying to make a connection between Ukrainian Nazis and some fucked up kid who killed 10 people is really clutching at straws.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I agree with about everything you said, the exception being saying Nazis come from the far right.
They are National Socialists & not on the right side of the spectrum at all. The all-powerful symbiosis of govt & industry policies for absolute control comes from the left side of the spectrum & are the opposite of liberty.
They have much more in common with their communist totalitarian brothers than any freedom loving members of the right.
We need to stay out, there are no good guys in this fight as far as I can tell & that includes our own govt.
The best thing we can do is stay out of it & pray it ends quickly for the innocent victims caught in the middle

Like you said we agree on a lot. And for what it’s worth I agree that the far left is dangerous. They make no sense they don’t care about common sense or decency. They continue to lie and make up the viewpoints of those who disagree with Black Lives Matter for example. People can disagree with Black Lives Matter, people can say America is not systemically racist without being a racist. In order to be racist one needs to say blacks or whites are inferior.

I do believe that the Nazis were of the far right though. The far left is against racism so they cannot be Nazis the problem with the far left is they don’t understand common sense they are also kind of corrupted by people who hate America. So their idea of social justice is to take away rights from white people. They don’t believe in exterminating Jews or exterminating any groups of people like the Nazis did so that’s why the Nazis are separate and frankly perhaps not comparable to any group of history even like the Taliban.

But this is perhaps semantics. It doesn’t really make much of a difference if we believe the Nazis were on the left or the right the bottom line is the most importantly we are against him and we stand for American values. The far left on the other hand is against freedom of speech.. they believe in disrupting conservatives on campuses, they use violence like we saw in 2020 in the summer riots. There are blm supporters who have committed violent acts just like the shooter in Buffalo.

One thing we might disagree on ...Imo we should have a powerful federal government. I don’t understand why we have different laws from state to state at least when it comes to core principles like abortion for example, drinking age, the age to drive a car , and a few other things. But I also do not believe in screaming at people or making up viewpoints like calling people racist without any proof in these types of debates or saying that people who are anti-abortion are Satan worshipers... I don’t believe in that type of dramatic language. I try to be as levelheaded as possible. But unfortunately we have Talking Heads in the media who are contributing to the propaganda on both sides. The people on CNN agreeing with Black Lives Matter and then the people on Fox News agreeing with Q.


Finally my position is that America is perhaps the most liberal country in world history. We have done more for social justice then perhaps any country in world history..., and the hatred that the far left teachers is anti-American, anti-humane and anti-Christian has no place in any civilized Setting. We definitely need to teach our young kids that America was the country that fought white supremacy and fought Nazism... we did so with our Soviet and Chinese allies. Yes I believe in a vision of the allies where the big four can basically work together to make the world a better Place. China, the United Kingdom, America and Russia Have got to find a way to work together today on A variety of issues.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

There are Nazis everywhere.

Putin wanted to make this invasion and WW2 have a connection.

Just like in the US where bring up "Communism" will be emotive, in Russia bring up the "Nazis" is the same thing. There are Nazis in the US for FFS. And Russia.
Trying to make a connection between Ukrainian Nazis and some fucked up kid who killed 10 people is really clutching at straws.

I’m going by what the reports are saying. And we have a report showing this Buffalo shooter was using a Nazi emblem the same Nazi emblem neo nazis in Ukrainian forces are using. And in the shooters manifesto the guy admires Nazism.

There are both far right and far left people in the United States. In my opinion they are a tiny minority but we saw yesterday with media coverage added that they can cause trouble.

Nazism is a small problem worldwide but specifically in Ukraine its more serious even on a small level... here’s the difference Ukraine is the only country in the world with a neo-Nazi military battalion. The proud American military rejects Nazi symbols and would throw out some POS who wears a swastika on his T-shirt. But those POS”s in Ukraine who are wearing swastikas on their T-shirts and serve in the Ukraine military ...they are monsters. It’s an issue and the US government has dropped the ball, they are simply using geopolitics they are not caring about morals here. Should not be sending any money or weapons to Ukraine. The hypocrisy is astounding plus Russia never supported Iraq in 2003.

And again Russia has corruption issues, Russia has corrupt politicians and oligarchs. But Russia like America has domestic and international concerns. Here’s the thing I disagree with rushes invasion of Ukraine. But America invaded Iraq in 2003 and a unpopular war at least around the world. But I still support of the American military and the thing is I knew that most of the people in America military were over there now to commit crimes but you do what they thought was the best thing and actually there were some good that came out of that war. There’s a lot of hope that Iraq is going to become a better place after years of tremendous struggle.... Recently The pope visited iraq the first time in modern history it’s happened.

The United States needs to send a message to the world. We don’t agree with Nazis domestically or internationally. That’s got to be the message.

So again the big difference. Am I opinion. The fact is the US military would never allow someone to wear a swastika but the Ukraine military that only allows it be crazy. Do Ukrainian meet media political propaganda machine razors neo-Nazi battalion. And yet the far left in America talks so much about white supremacy this white supremacy that yet they’re the same people who say Ukrainian lives matters. It’s pure Geo politics has nothing to do with morals. it’s a shame because there are a lot of people in Ukraine who wanna fight for their country and who are against Nazism.

My position here is really a response to the far left. I’m calling them out right now I agree with them for criticizing this Nazi shooter in Buffalo. But here’s the thing it was America who fought the Nazis in World War II. You fast forward to 2020 to America has become the Symbol of liberalism with are growing interface and interracial marriage rates. ....Every now and then rarely we get some maniac black or white who goes on a racist attack. But those types of people represent a minority of Americans. And we all need to unite right now and stand forEvery now and then rarely we get some maniac black or white who goes on a racist attack. But those types of people represent a minority of Americans. And we all need to unite right now and stand for Neutral respect because African-Americans and European Americans share the common bond of Christianity and other value systems. We have a lot in common.

Part of having a good value system is we need to call out the Nazis in Ukraine if we’re gonna call out Nazis in Buffalo.

 

[22lcidw]

Nazis are as far right as you get

Symbols can be used for anything. Progs use it against white males all the time. Christians and white males. Ukraine is much more than what we are told. I am not privy to it but a few bits and pieces of the corruption with individuals in the West associated with it shows up or has shown up.

 

[petro]

I’m going by what the reports are saying. And we have a report showing this Buffalo shooter was using a Nazi emblem the same Nazi emblem neo nazis in Ukrainian forces are using. And in the shooters manifesto the guy admires Nazism.

There are both far right and far left people in the United States. In my opinion they are a tiny minority but we saw yesterday with media coverage added that they can cause trouble.

Nazism is a small problem worldwide but specifically in Ukraine its more serious even on a small level... here’s the difference Ukraine is the only country in the world with a neo-Nazi military battalion. The proud American military rejects Nazi symbols and would throw out some POS who wears a swastika on his T-shirt. But those POS”s in Ukraine who are wearing swastikas on their T-shirts and serve in the Ukraine military ...they are monsters. It’s an issue and the US government has dropped the ball, they are simply using geopolitics they are not caring about morals here. Should not be sending any money or weapons to Ukraine. The hypocrisy is astounding plus Russia never supported Iraq in 2003.

And again Russia has corruption issues, Russia has corrupt politicians and oligarchs. But Russia like America has domestic and international concerns. Here’s the thing I disagree with rushes invasion of Ukraine. But America invaded Iraq in 2003 and a unpopular war at least around the world. But I still support of the American military and the thing is I knew that most of the people in America military were over there now to commit crimes but you do what they thought was the best thing and actually there were some good that came out of that war. There’s a lot of hope that Iraq is going to become a better place after years of tremendous struggle.... Recently The pope visited iraq the first time in modern history it’s happened.

The United States needs to send a message to the world. We don’t agree with Nazis domestically or internationally. That’s got to be the message.

So again the big difference. Am I opinion. The fact is the US military would never allow someone to wear a swastika but the Ukraine military that only allows it be crazy. Do Ukrainian meet media political propaganda machine razors neo-Nazi battalion. And yet the far left in America talks so much about white supremacy this white supremacy that yet they’re the same people who say Ukrainian lives matters. It’s pure Geo politics has nothing to do with morals. it’s a shame because there are a lot of people in Ukraine who wanna fight for their country and who are against Nazism.

My position here is really a response to the far left. I’m calling them out right now I agree with them for criticizing this Nazi shooter in Buffalo. But here’s the thing it was America who fought the Nazis in World War II. You fast forward to 2020 to America has become the Symbol of liberalism with are growing interface and interracial marriage rates. ....Every now and then rarely we get some maniac black or white who goes on a racist attack. But those types of people represent a minority of Americans. And we all need to unite right now and stand forEvery now and then rarely we get some maniac black or white who goes on a racist attack. But those types of people represent a minority of Americans. And we all need to unite right now and stand for Neutral respect because African-Americans and European Americans share the common bond of Christianity and other value systems. We have a lot in common.

Part of having a good value system is we need to call out the Nazis in Ukraine if we’re gonna call out Nazis in Buffalo.

According to liberals here and in the Administration, there are no Nazi's in Ukraine.

It's all Russian Misinformation...
Disagree with them, and you are Rootin for Putin.


Those of us who have rejected the Administration's take, figured this out months ago.

 

[HandleTheTruth]

There are Nazis everywhere.

Putin wanted to make this invasion and WW2 have a connection.

Just like in the US where bring up "Communism" will be emotive, in Russia bring up the "Nazis" is the same thing. There are Nazis in the US for FFS. And Russia.
Trying to make a connection between Ukrainian Nazis and some fucked up kid who killed 10 people is really clutching at straws.

The conspiracy theorists mind doesn't work with facts. They try to make two plus two five.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Well, all I can say is that we live in a culture obsessed with identity due to the machinations of globalist leftist demagoguery. Instead of fostering a color-blind attitude that encourages commonality, these leftists divide people into tribal groups and pit them against one another.

Whether the kid was or was not a Nazi is fairly immaterial as this knowledge does not really get to the heart of the matter. The important issue to me is to address the destructive outcome of identity politics as it contributes to the way people view the world in terms of "us and them".

 

[j-mac]

Numerous reports are showing the shooter supporting Nazism. We know that there have been white supremacists around the world that traveled to Ukraine to join pro Ukraine battalions to support Nazism.

How a White-Supremacist Militia Uses Facebook to Radicalize and Train New Members

This Ukrainian militant group’s use of social media has been key to their international growth

time.com

On the Ukraine Russia war I think the United States should be neutral. I’m not here to support either Ukraine or Russia. But again we know that there are far right issues in Ukraine there’s openly people putting Nazi swastikas on their T-shirts. Essentially it’s a Civil War in Ukraine going back to 2014. Common sense shows us that most Ukrainians and most Russians support their country. This is one where there are dignified people on both sides of the Russia Ukraine war. There are honorable Ukrainians and there are honorable Russians.


As we know the Soviet Union gave 27 million people in the fight against Nazism. Ukraine has a pro- Nazi issue unfortunately even though the Nazis in Ukraine are such a small number today they caused violence and they are openly wearing Nazi symbols.



I also believe parts of the American media and some American politicians are big-time hypocrites. If they are against white supremacy they need to talk about the white supremacy and Nazism in Ukraine.

I’m proud of America and I support the American military... I support American ideals and American institutions because we stand against white supremacy and Nazism. I’m from Buffalo New York ....so knowing that the shooter was a Nazi this thing brings up memories of World War II big time. And the messages crystal clear the spirit of the allies will prevail over the Nazis of the world.

Misleading title....

 

[HandleTheTruth]

Numerous reports are showing the shooter supporting Nazism. We know that there have been white supremacists around the world that traveled to Ukraine to join pro Ukraine battalions to support Nazism.

How a White-Supremacist Militia Uses Facebook to Radicalize and Train New Members

This Ukrainian militant group’s use of social media has been key to their international growth

time.com

On the Ukraine Russia war I think the United States should be neutral. I’m not here to support either Ukraine or Russia. But again we know that there are far right issues in Ukraine there’s openly people putting Nazi swastikas on their T-shirts. Essentially it’s a Civil War in Ukraine going back to 2014. Common sense shows us that most Ukrainians and most Russians support their country. This is one where there are dignified people on both sides of the Russia Ukraine war. There are honorable Ukrainians and there are honorable Russians.


As we know the Soviet Union gave 27 million people in the fight against Nazism. Ukraine has a pro- Nazi issue unfortunately even though the Nazis in Ukraine are such a small number today they caused violence and they are openly wearing Nazi symbols.



I also believe parts of the American media and some American politicians are big-time hypocrites. If they are against white supremacy they need to talk about the white supremacy and Nazism in Ukraine.

I’m proud of America and I support the American military... I support American ideals and American institutions because we stand against white supremacy and Nazism. I’m from Buffalo New York ....so knowing that the shooter was a Nazi this thing brings up memories of World War II big time. And the messages crystal clear the spirit of the allies will prevail over the Nazis of the world.

Sorry I didn't read your post till now. Sorry about my kneejerk reaction. I try not to do that.

 

[jackflash]

Numerous reports are showing the shooter supporting Nazism. We know that there have been white supremacists around the world that traveled to Ukraine to join pro Ukraine battalions to support Nazism.

How a White-Supremacist Militia Uses Facebook to Radicalize and Train New Members

This Ukrainian militant group’s use of social media has been key to their international growth

time.com

On the Ukraine Russia war I think the United States should be neutral. I’m not here to support either Ukraine or Russia. But again we know that there are far right issues in Ukraine there’s openly people putting Nazi swastikas on their T-shirts. Essentially it’s a Civil War in Ukraine going back to 2014. Common sense shows us that most Ukrainians and most Russians support their country. This is one where there are dignified people on both sides of the Russia Ukraine war. There are honorable Ukrainians and there are honorable Russians.


As we know the Soviet Union gave 27 million people in the fight against Nazism. Ukraine has a pro- Nazi issue unfortunately even though the Nazis in Ukraine are such a small number today they caused violence and they are openly wearing Nazi symbols.



I also believe parts of the American media and some American politicians are big-time hypocrites. If they are against white supremacy they need to talk about the white supremacy and Nazism in Ukraine.

I’m proud of America and I support the American military... I support American ideals and American institutions because we stand against white supremacy and Nazism. I’m from Buffalo New York ....so knowing that the shooter was a Nazi this thing brings up memories of World War II big time. And the messages crystal clear the spirit of the allies will prevail over the Nazis of the world.

Nazis are far left(statist) politically. Far right would encompass folks like former congressman Ron Paul & president Tom Jefferson, & both of the before mentioned were of the classical liberal (Libertarian) philosophy & pushed for minimal government & maximum freedom/Liberty for the American constituency. You are correct on the 27 million Russian fatalities. Amazing how much the below images I included of the 12th SS panzer division(Hitlerjugend) look so much like the image of the "Hero Of Ukraine" image. I mean do you think history repeats itself or what?

 

[Oddball]

Nazis are as far right as you get

No, anarcho-capitalists are as far right as you get....And they are so distanced form actual Nazis as to make your naive statement laughable.

 

[rightwinger]

No, anarcho-capitalists are as far right as you get....And they are so distanced form actual Nazis as to make your naive statement laughable.

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[Oddball]

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More drivel from the forum's leading compulsive liar.

You moonabts are far more like Nazis than any real anarchist will ever be.

 

[Lesh]

The ultra right loves to disavow their Nazi brethren but it's a fools errand.

Nazis are ultra right wing white nationalist anti-semites.

The fact that "socialist" appears in their name mean nothing more than the fact that Democratic" appears in the name of North Korea...

And the unholy alliance between CAPITALIST industrialists and Hitler's Nazis was a "marriage of convenience".

 

[frigidweirdo]

I’m going by what the reports are saying. And we have a report showing this Buffalo shooter was using a Nazi emblem the same Nazi emblem neo nazis in Ukrainian forces are using. And in the shooters manifesto the guy admires Nazism.

There are both far right and far left people in the United States. In my opinion they are a tiny minority but we saw yesterday with media coverage added that they can cause trouble.

Nazism is a small problem worldwide but specifically in Ukraine its more serious even on a small level... here’s the difference Ukraine is the only country in the world with a neo-Nazi military battalion. The proud American military rejects Nazi symbols and would throw out some POS who wears a swastika on his T-shirt. But those POS”s in Ukraine who are wearing swastikas on their T-shirts and serve in the Ukraine military ...they are monsters. It’s an issue and the US government has dropped the ball, they are simply using geopolitics they are not caring about morals here. Should not be sending any money or weapons to Ukraine. The hypocrisy is astounding plus Russia never supported Iraq in 2003.

And again Russia has corruption issues, Russia has corrupt politicians and oligarchs. But Russia like America has domestic and international concerns. Here’s the thing I disagree with rushes invasion of Ukraine. But America invaded Iraq in 2003 and a unpopular war at least around the world. But I still support of the American military and the thing is I knew that most of the people in America military were over there now to commit crimes but you do what they thought was the best thing and actually there were some good that came out of that war. There’s a lot of hope that Iraq is going to become a better place after years of tremendous struggle.... Recently The pope visited iraq the first time in modern history it’s happened.

The United States needs to send a message to the world. We don’t agree with Nazis domestically or internationally. That’s got to be the message.

So again the big difference. Am I opinion. The fact is the US military would never allow someone to wear a swastika but the Ukraine military that only allows it be crazy. Do Ukrainian meet media political propaganda machine razors neo-Nazi battalion. And yet the far left in America talks so much about white supremacy this white supremacy that yet they’re the same people who say Ukrainian lives matters. It’s pure Geo politics has nothing to do with morals. it’s a shame because there are a lot of people in Ukraine who wanna fight for their country and who are against Nazism.

My position here is really a response to the far left. I’m calling them out right now I agree with them for criticizing this Nazi shooter in Buffalo. But here’s the thing it was America who fought the Nazis in World War II. You fast forward to 2020 to America has become the Symbol of liberalism with are growing interface and interracial marriage rates. ....Every now and then rarely we get some maniac black or white who goes on a racist attack. But those types of people represent a minority of Americans. And we all need to unite right now and stand forEvery now and then rarely we get some maniac black or white who goes on a racist attack. But those types of people represent a minority of Americans. And we all need to unite right now and stand for Neutral respect because African-Americans and European Americans share the common bond of Christianity and other value systems. We have a lot in common.

Part of having a good value system is we need to call out the Nazis in Ukraine if we’re gonna call out Nazis in Buffalo.

So how many Nazis are there in the Ukraine compared to other countries?

 

[Lesh]

So how many Nazis are there in the Ukraine compared to other countries?

Very few