Why is it worse to be a Western Ukrainian "Nazi" rather than an Eastern Ukrainian "Soviet"?
Didn't Soviets kill more than the Nazis?
This goes to ideology if nazism/fascism and communism.
Nazism is based on a very disgusting ideas.
Communism is based on right ideas.
Nazism is impossible without murder and other crimes.
Crimes of communists are crimes of people who got power in early USSR. The same as crimes of inquisition do not prove that Christianity is evil.
Do you know the main idea of communism? It is ideal society. And humanity will come to it.
But in 20 century or even now it is too early for us to try to create communist way of living.
But speaking about eastern Ukrainians they are not "soviet" as you called them. They simply disagree to European movement of their country. They prefer better relations with Russia. Or Russia is supposed to be soviet now?
Fascist Italy didn't really murder for about 1 decade, Nazi Germany didn't really murder for about half a decade.... While all Communist regimes murdered right away.
Between 1917 - 1922 as many as 20 million Russians were killed by the Bolsheviks between the Russian Civil War, and the Volga Famine they bought on.
That means Soviets may have immediately killed as much as Nazis did in an extended period of over 1 decade.
One could just as easily say that Egalitarian ideals are disgusting.... for one Communism has a horrible track record when it comes to economic growth, unlike Fascism which actually has the best track record of economic growth.
But, Egalitarianism allows idiocy, and degeneracy to spread by appeasing it.
Not that I support how Nazis did it.... But I do support Positive Eugenics.
I guess I cannot explain...
Communism in Russia came too early. Society wasn't ready. Even now it is not ready for such way of living.
But the idea is right. And that idea doesn't mean killing someone, on the contrary idea is that all people are equal.
As for Nazism the main idea is that one certain nation is the highest one and the others must be either eliminated or be slaves. This ideology is sick in its nature.
If we start talking about murders of soviet regime in the beginning of the USSR than I can remind slavery and genocide of Indians which took place in the beginning of American history.
Didn't the founders of Communism Marx, and Engels say similar?
The Anti-Marxists Internet Archive Official Blog: Marx and Engels quotes on War, Terror, and Genocide
Did you not read our articles about the June revolution, and was not the essence of the June revolution the essence of our paper? Why then your hypocritical phrases, your attempt to find an impossible pretext? We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror. But the royal terrorists, the terrorists by the grace of God and the law, are in practice brutal, disdainful, and mean, in theory cowardly, secretive, and deceitful, and in both respects disreputable.
--Karl Marx, in the final issue of
Neue Rheinische Zeitung (18 May 1849)
Marx-Engels Gesamt-Ausgabe, Vol. VI, p. 503
"Until its complete extermination or loss of national status, this racial trash always becomes the most fanatical bearer there is of counter-revolution, and it remains that. That is because its entire existence is nothing more than a protest against a great historical revolution... The next world war will cause not only reactionary classes and dynasties, but also entire reactionary peoples, to disappear from the earth. And that too is progress." -Karl Marx, 1849,
Neue Rheinische Zeitung.
"The classes and the races too weak to master the new conditions of life must give way.... They must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." -Karl Marx (
Marx People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981)
“To the sentimental phrases about brotherhood which we are being offered here on behalf of the most counter-revolutionary nations of Europe, we reply that hatred of Russians was and still is the primary revolutionary passion among Germans; that since the revolution hatred of Czechs and Croats has been added, and that only by the most determined use of terror against these Slav peoples can we, jointly with the Poles and Magyars, safeguard the revolution. We know where the enemies of the revolution are concentrated, viz. in Russia and the Slav regions of Austria, and no fine phrases, no allusions to an undefined democratic future for these countries can deter us from treating our enemies as enemies. Slav nationality leaves the revolution entirely out of account, then we too know what we have to do” –Engles,
Neue Rheinische Zeitung No. 223, February 16, 1849