Compared to capitalism, what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured?

[Uncensored2008]

[
What do we have to show for electing a reality TV host?

Failure

Best economy in 60 years, lowest unemployment among minorities in history, Ending the aid to Iran's nuclear weapons program, opening the road to peace and reunification in Korea, no new wars and efforts to bring Obama's war in Syria to a close.

Since you consider that "failure," it's pretty damned clear what your agenda is, Comrade.

 

[Lesh]

Jesus was a champion of the poor, the weak, the meek, and downtrodden. He encouraged his followers to “sell their possessions” and give them to the poor. He hung out with hookers and crooks. The lifestyle of Jesus didn’t look anything like the politics of the Right.

How would you know, Comrade?
Because an Oberfuhrer over at ThinkProgress gave you cartoons?

You talk about "honest discussion" and use terms like "comrade and Oberfuhrer"?

Really?

 

[danielpalos]

I am not here to defend communism which is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry. A failure.

Socialism is no longer looked at as USSR communism since it was discovered that there was absolutely no democracy involved. After World War II socialism has meant fairc capitalismwith a good safety net and always democratic, except in Cold War conservative propaganda more and more.

Today socialism has given us all modern countries except the United States,and probably the final solution to man's government problems. When we get Healthcare we will be socialist, barely...."We are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when Obamacare passed.

The ONLY reason you are here is to promote and defend Communism.

That's ridiculous, communism is a dictatorship--socialism is always democratic, just like in every modern Nation but us. Welcome to the 21st century.

Derp.

You should take an introductory history class. I'm sure there is night school near you that offers remedial courses.

Capitalism - the means of production rests in the hands of the people. The role of government is to settle disputes and torts using a system of justices, typically courts.

Socialism - the means of production is entirely controlled by government. The state or king may and usually does appoint overseers for various lands and industries. (Feudalism differs from other socialism only in that is agrarian in nature). The state gives to people as the state sees fit. All assets including the people are the property of the rulers.

Communism - There is no government. This is a Utopian society where all things are open to all. Production is done because people want to produce. Marx based much of his ideal of Communism on descriptions of Aborigine Tribal structure by Charles Darwin. What Marx failed to grasp or mention is that the lives of the Aborigines were short and brutal. That the tribes existed in a perpetual state of near starvation. The fairy tale of communism has never existed, nor will it ever exist.

shifting the curve? where is the AnCap in your curve.

 

[danielpalos]

So. I think we can all agree one one thing: If socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured anything, it's propaganda. It has a long history of trying to convince the rest of the world that it is capable of working successfully, even though it very seldom does.

Socialism and communism has manufactured a shit-ton of propaganda as well as the network with which to spread that propaganda, including useful idiots, tools, stooges, trolls, and bots, liberal academia, the media, the arts, and so on.

What communism and socialism has created is the lie that "we would all be happier" under communism and socialism, and the liars who spread the lie.

Government is socialism; we even have a Constitution, to Prove it.

Only the truly Religious can make Ten simple Commandments from a God, "work".

 

[danielpalos]

[
What do we have to show for electing a reality TV host?

Failure

Best economy in 60 years, lowest unemployment among minorities in history, Ending the aid to Iran's nuclear weapons program, opening the road to peace and reunification in Korea, no new wars and efforts to bring Obama's war in Syria to a close.

Since you consider that "failure," it's pretty damned clear what your agenda is, Comrade.

and, the Richest got richer faster.
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
how long until we run out of the Other Peoples' money?

 

[danielpalos]

Jesus was a champion of the poor, the weak, the meek, and downtrodden. He encouraged his followers to “sell their possessions” and give them to the poor. He hung out with hookers and crooks. The lifestyle of Jesus didn’t look anything like the politics of the Right.

How would you know, Comrade?
Because an Oberfuhrer over at ThinkProgress gave you cartoons?

You talk about "honest discussion" and use terms like "comrade and Oberfuhrer"?

Really?

he argues like an underfuhrer.

 

[Uncensored2008]

WHat we dan agree on is that your "construct" is bullshit.

We LIVE in a system that is a mix of socialism and capitalism. The question you posed is a strawman.

The real question is how MUCH socialism is the correct amount to mitigate the flaws and excesses of capitalism

No Comrade, we do not. (I suspect you are not American) America is a country which has a capitalist economy. The welfare state is just a leech on that capitalist economy, leach.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Debate can only happen among honest men. georgephillip is not honest, nor anywhere near honest.

Very few if any Trumpers have the intention of engaging in honest debate

Izatrite, Comrade?

You scumbags aren't democrat socialists, you are demagogue sociopaths.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Jesus was a champion of the poor, the weak, the meek, and downtrodden. He encouraged his followers to “sell their possessions” and give them to the poor. He hung out with hookers and crooks. The lifestyle of Jesus didn’t look anything like the politics of the Right.

How would you know, Comrade?
Because an Oberfuhrer over at ThinkProgress gave you cartoons?

You talk about "honest discussion" and use terms like "comrade and Oberfuhrer"?

Really?

Yes, you are a Stalinist, and "Comrade" is the traditional moniker of those who are like you.

So how do you describe your handlers at the hate sites who send you here to vomit out your demagoguery? Oberfuhrer seems appropriate.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?

Poverty, starvation, mass graves and misery are the specialty of socialists. It’s what they import into every nation they get control of.

Basically everyone in the world but Republicans knows that socialists are always Democratic Fair capitalists with a good safety net these days. Check any socialists from developed countries or any Socialist Party in developed countries. Or Bernie or AOC. Brainwashed functional morons.

I see we’re renaming shit again. WTF is fair capitalism? The kind where you can make as much as you want as long as it’s not more than anyone else? Those Venezuela socialists are sure fair capitalisming the hell out of that place. Don’t get me started praising their safety nets I’ll never be able to stop with all that gloriousness.

equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will, for unemployment compensation.

and, a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage.

Yeah not communist at all. The government will just tell you who you can hire, when you can fire them and how much they will be paid.

 

[danielpalos]

Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?

Poverty, starvation, mass graves and misery are the specialty of socialists. It’s what they import into every nation they get control of.

Basically everyone in the world but Republicans knows that socialists are always Democratic Fair capitalists with a good safety net these days. Check any socialists from developed countries or any Socialist Party in developed countries. Or Bernie or AOC. Brainwashed functional morons.

I see we’re renaming shit again. WTF is fair capitalism? The kind where you can make as much as you want as long as it’s not more than anyone else? Those Venezuela socialists are sure fair capitalisming the hell out of that place. Don’t get me started praising their safety nets I’ll never be able to stop with all that gloriousness.

equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will, for unemployment compensation.

and, a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage.

Yeah not communist at all. The government will just tell you who you can hire, when you can fire them and how much they will be paid.

the right wing is worse. they also want a wall, in addition to all you claim.

 

[JGalt]

Poverty, starvation, mass graves and misery are the specialty of socialists. It’s what they import into every nation they get control of.

Basically everyone in the world but Republicans knows that socialists are always Democratic Fair capitalists with a good safety net these days. Check any socialists from developed countries or any Socialist Party in developed countries. Or Bernie or AOC. Brainwashed functional morons.

I see we’re renaming shit again. WTF is fair capitalism? The kind where you can make as much as you want as long as it’s not more than anyone else? Those Venezuela socialists are sure fair capitalisming the hell out of that place. Don’t get me started praising their safety nets I’ll never be able to stop with all that gloriousness.

equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will, for unemployment compensation.

and, a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage.

Yeah not communist at all. The government will just tell you who you can hire, when you can fire them and how much they will be paid.

the right wing is worse. they also want a wall, in addition to all you claim.

The wall is a good idea.: Fewer illegals = less taxpayer's money going to support them = less socialism.

Finish that big beautiful wall.

 

[danielpalos]

Basically everyone in the world but Republicans knows that socialists are always Democratic Fair capitalists with a good safety net these days. Check any socialists from developed countries or any Socialist Party in developed countries. Or Bernie or AOC. Brainwashed functional morons.

I see we’re renaming shit again. WTF is fair capitalism? The kind where you can make as much as you want as long as it’s not more than anyone else? Those Venezuela socialists are sure fair capitalisming the hell out of that place. Don’t get me started praising their safety nets I’ll never be able to stop with all that gloriousness.

equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will, for unemployment compensation.

and, a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage.

Yeah not communist at all. The government will just tell you who you can hire, when you can fire them and how much they will be paid.

the right wing is worse. they also want a wall, in addition to all you claim.

The wall is a good idea.: Fewer illegals = less taxpayer's money going to support them = less socialism.

Finish that big beautiful wall.

we have a refugee problem not a common defense problem. our welfare clause is General and we have a Commerce Clause. Only lousy Capitalists lose money on border policy.

 

[georgephillip]

What you ignore is that in most cases (the countries forced into communism following WWII being the exception) where communism (not socialism) arose...it was because of the FAILURE of unregulated capitalism or systems very like those (Russia)

People didn't just say "Hey let's try this".

Life sucked. Look up serfdom in Russia.

That's not a defense in the least...it's an explanation

So which has been responsible for the deliberate murders of hundreds of millions of people throughout history? Unregulated capitalism, or communism and socialism?

Chose wisely now...

So which has been responsible for the deliberate murders of hundreds of millions of people throughout history? Unregulated capitalism, or communism and socialism?

Chose wisely now...

Capitalism got a head start in mass killing:

"A world war erupted — thanks, in large part, as historians agree, to a "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">global depression.

"But what caused the Great Depression? Capitalism — the speculative frenzy and inequality of the rip-roaring 1920s.

"Capitalism poured the fuel of fascism all over the world, in nations like Germany and Italy, who were heavily indebted by that point, and it only took a handful of demagogues to set the world alight. "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">How many people died in World War II? 25 million — just soldiers. 50 million — including civilians. 80 million — including famine, war crimes, and disease.

"We’re getting into some spectacular numbers, aren’t we? Let’s take the middle one, just for conservatism’s sake. We’re already at about 70 million."

If Communism Killed Millions, How Many Did Capitalism Kill?

Utter ******* bullshit. You've been spanked for these lies dozens of times.

Another example of the FACT that Marxists have ZERO INTEGRITY, you will say ANYTHING to promote the global dictatorship you dream of.

Utter ******* bullshit. You've been spanked for these lies dozens of times.

Another example of the FACT that Marxists have ZERO INTEGRITY, you will say ANYTHING to promote the global dictatorship you dream of.

Who do you blame for WWII, capitalists or socialists?

World War II casualties - Wikipedia

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. An estimated total 70-85 million people perished, which was about 3% of the 1940 world population (est. 2.3 billion)."

https://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1761.html

 

[georgephillip]

Capitalism got a head start in mass killing:

"A world war erupted — thanks, in large part, as historians agree, to a "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">global depression.

"But what caused the Great Depression? Capitalism — the speculative frenzy and inequality of the rip-roaring 1920s.

"Capitalism poured the fuel of fascism all over the world, in nations like Germany and Italy, who were heavily indebted by that point, and it only took a handful of demagogues to set the world alight. "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">How many people died in World War II? 25 million — just soldiers. 50 million — including civilians. 80 million — including famine, war crimes, and disease.

"We’re getting into some spectacular numbers, aren’t we? Let’s take the middle one, just for conservatism’s sake. We’re already at about 70 million."

If Communism Killed Millions, How Many Did Capitalism Kill?

Socialism is pure evil

Socialism is pure evil?

That's disturbing because we are a socialist/capitalist nation

You know what the VA is right?

We know you think Social Security and Medicare should be destroyed...but that's you so...

Lol
You do realize all that stuff has to be paid for...

Lol
You do realize all that stuff has to be paid for...

Do you realize (care) some of us are not paying our fair share?

Trump the tax cheat - Substance News

Wrong


He is paying his fair share as is everyone.

Wrong


He is paying his fair share as is everyone

Trump the tax cheat - Substance News

"TRUMPWATCH: How Donald Trump avoided paying federal taxes for decades... Washington Post and New York Times investigations show how Trump paid less in federal income taxes than most of his disciples (even the poorest 'white working class' Trump fans)..."

Trump's been a grifter, draft dodger, and tax cheat for his entire adult life. He even bragged about dodging taxes by saying it made him "smart." Do you agree?

 

[Blues Man]

Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?

 

[georgephillip]

What you ignore is that in most cases (the countries forced into communism following WWII being the exception) where communism (not socialism) arose...it was because of the FAILURE of unregulated capitalism or systems very like those (Russia)

People didn't just say "Hey let's try this".

Life sucked. Look up serfdom in Russia.

That's not a defense in the least...it's an explanation

So which has been responsible for the deliberate murders of hundreds of millions of people throughout history? Unregulated capitalism, or communism and socialism?

Chose wisely now...

So which has been responsible for the deliberate murders of hundreds of millions of people throughout history? Unregulated capitalism, or communism and socialism?

Chose wisely now...

Capitalism got a head start in mass killing:

"A world war erupted — thanks, in large part, as historians agree, to a "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">global depression.

"But what caused the Great Depression? Capitalism — the speculative frenzy and inequality of the rip-roaring 1920s.

"Capitalism poured the fuel of fascism all over the world, in nations like Germany and Italy, who were heavily indebted by that point, and it only took a handful of demagogues to set the world alight. "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">How many people died in World War II? 25 million — just soldiers. 50 million — including civilians. 80 million — including famine, war crimes, and disease.

"We’re getting into some spectacular numbers, aren’t we? Let’s take the middle one, just for conservatism’s sake. We’re already at about 70 million."

If Communism Killed Millions, How Many Did Capitalism Kill?

Socialism is pure evil

Who the he'll is she?

Socialism is pure evil

Socialism can and has been put to evil ends and so has capitalism:

If Communism Killed Millions, How Many Did Capitalism Kill?

"It goes around every few years. “"); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">Communism killed 100 million people!!” Let’s take it face value. How awful. So. What about capitalism? Let’s think about it together..."

"Let’s start in an obvious place. "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">13 million slaves were sold to the “New World” — America, North and South. In the United States, by 1860, just 400,000 North American slaves had become 4 million new ones, born into slavery.

"That’s 17 million people, and we’ve barely begun — and it’s incomplete, because there are no statistics on how many people were born into slavery after their parents sold in South and Central America. Still, let’s leave that aside for now, because 17 million’s plenty to begin with."

Slavery and capitalism are not the same thing and one does not cause the other.

Your premise is an illogical and self defeating failure


You have listed none killed by capitalism so the number stands at zero and you have not started.

Slavery and capitalism are not the same thing and one does not cause the other.

Your premise is an illogical and self defeating failure

Slavery was the basis for US capitalism, and your lifestyle (and mine) would not exist without it.

Slavery Made America - The Atlantic

"by 1860, there were more millionaires (slaveholders all) living in the lower Mississippi Valley than anywhere else in the United States.

"In the same year, the nearly 4 million American slaves were worth some $3.5 billion, making them the largest single financial asset in the entire U.S. economy, worth more than all manufacturing and railroads combined.

"So, of course, the war was rooted in these two expanding and competing economies—but competing over what?

"What eventually tore asunder America's political culture was slavery's expansion into the Western territories."

 

[georgephillip]

What you ignore is that in most cases (the countries forced into communism following WWII being the exception) where communism (not socialism) arose...it was because of the FAILURE of unregulated capitalism or systems very like those (Russia)

People didn't just say "Hey let's try this".

Life sucked. Look up serfdom in Russia.

That's not a defense in the least...it's an explanation

So which has been responsible for the deliberate murders of hundreds of millions of people throughout history? Unregulated capitalism, or communism and socialism?

Chose wisely now...

So which has been responsible for the deliberate murders of hundreds of millions of people throughout history? Unregulated capitalism, or communism and socialism?

Chose wisely now...

Capitalism got a head start in mass killing:

"A world war erupted — thanks, in large part, as historians agree, to a "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">global depression.

"But what caused the Great Depression? Capitalism — the speculative frenzy and inequality of the rip-roaring 1920s.

"Capitalism poured the fuel of fascism all over the world, in nations like Germany and Italy, who were heavily indebted by that point, and it only took a handful of demagogues to set the world alight. "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">How many people died in World War II? 25 million — just soldiers. 50 million — including civilians. 80 million — including famine, war crimes, and disease.

"We’re getting into some spectacular numbers, aren’t we? Let’s take the middle one, just for conservatism’s sake. We’re already at about 70 million."

If Communism Killed Millions, How Many Did Capitalism Kill?

Communism has murdered over 5 times as many and at least under capitalism, those people had the opportunity to survive. Unlike communism, which didn't offer their victims a choice.

George is a liar, as all Communists are.

His numbers count Somalia, Liberia, and Angola as "capitalist".

Debate can only happen among honest men. georgephillip is not honest, nor anywhere near honest.

George is a liar, as all Communists are.

His numbers count Somalia, Liberia, and Angola as "capitalist".

Debate can only happen among honest men. georgephillip is not honest, nor anywhere near honest

What would a right-wing, racist maggot like you know about honesty?

You won’t say it, so I will: capitalism is the underlying cause of mass shootings in the US

"There is a story inoculated into your mind at a very young age in the U.S. The story that competition and individualism are the prerequisites to liberty or freedom.

"This is a story told by neoliberalism, the defining political ideology of our time.

"Neoliberalism’s ideology has seeped into our language. Its tendrils so deep that not a single aspect of our lives isn’t touched by it.

"At its heart is a radical belief in the ultimate personal freedom at the expense of everyone.

"Friedrich Hayek, an Austrian economist, first created the ideology in the mid-1900s.

"It was simple.

"That redistribution of wealth, political freedom, and human equality were harmful.

"Those ideas restrict the freedom of the rich and powerful.

"Who, he argued, would drive humanity forward with their opulent spending, their freedom to push the boundaries of human existence."

 

[Uncensored2008]

What you ignore is that in most cases (the countries forced into communism following WWII being the exception) where communism (not socialism) arose...it was because of the FAILURE of unregulated capitalism or systems very like those (Russia)

People didn't just say "Hey let's try this".

Life sucked. Look up serfdom in Russia.

That's not a defense in the least...it's an explanation

So which has been responsible for the deliberate murders of hundreds of millions of people throughout history? Unregulated capitalism, or communism and socialism?

Chose wisely now...

So which has been responsible for the deliberate murders of hundreds of millions of people throughout history? Unregulated capitalism, or communism and socialism?

Chose wisely now...

Capitalism got a head start in mass killing:

"A world war erupted — thanks, in large part, as historians agree, to a "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">global depression.

"But what caused the Great Depression? Capitalism — the speculative frenzy and inequality of the rip-roaring 1920s.

"Capitalism poured the fuel of fascism all over the world, in nations like Germany and Italy, who were heavily indebted by that point, and it only took a handful of demagogues to set the world alight. "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">How many people died in World War II? 25 million — just soldiers. 50 million — including civilians. 80 million — including famine, war crimes, and disease.

"We’re getting into some spectacular numbers, aren’t we? Let’s take the middle one, just for conservatism’s sake. We’re already at about 70 million."

If Communism Killed Millions, How Many Did Capitalism Kill?

Communism has murdered over 5 times as many and at least under capitalism, those people had the opportunity to survive. Unlike communism, which didn't offer their victims a choice.

George is a liar, as all Communists are.

His numbers count Somalia, Liberia, and Angola as "capitalist".

Debate can only happen among honest men. georgephillip is not honest, nor anywhere near honest.

George is a liar, as all Communists are.

His numbers count Somalia, Liberia, and Angola as "capitalist".

Debate can only happen among honest men. georgephillip is not honest, nor anywhere near honest

What would a right-wing, racist maggot like you know about honesty?

You won’t say it, so I will: capitalism is the underlying cause of mass shootings in the US

"There is a story inoculated into your mind at a very young age in the U.S. The story that competition and individualism are the prerequisites to liberty or freedom.

"This is a story told by neoliberalism, the defining political ideology of our time.

"Neoliberalism’s ideology has seeped into our language. Its tendrils so deep that not a single aspect of our lives isn’t touched by it.

"At its heart is a radical belief in the ultimate personal freedom at the expense of everyone.

"Friedrich Hayek, an Austrian economist, first created the ideology in the mid-1900s.

"It was simple.

"That redistribution of wealth, political freedom, and human equality were harmful.

"Those ideas restrict the freedom of the rich and powerful.

"Who, he argued, would drive humanity forward with their opulent spending, their freedom to push the boundaries of human existence."

Such idiocy.

If I buy an apple from a street vendor, wealth has been redistributed.

You know less than nothing of Hayek, nor of economics in general, Austrian or otherwise.

 

[Pogo]

Jesus was a champion of the poor, the weak, the meek, and downtrodden. He encouraged his followers to “sell their possessions” and give them to the poor. He hung out with hookers and crooks. The lifestyle of Jesus didn’t look anything like the politics of the Right.

How would you know, Comrade?
Because an Oberfuhrer over at ThinkProgress gave you cartoons?

You talk about "honest discussion" and use terms like "comrade and Oberfuhrer"?

Really?

Actually he seems to have moved on. In the older daze he used to call everybody else "Pol Pot". That's why I call him "Pothead" which has nothing to do with cannabis. He's one of the fringier wackballs that ever signed up here.