Communists were they really the liberals/progressives?

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They did not had open borders but the iron curtain
They praised themselfes not being hedonistic and 'degenerate' society they said the 'capitalist' societies are (drugs, homeless, illiteracy) but most 'progressives' support drug legalisation
 
Communists are authoritarians. Liberalism is not an authoritarian ideology.
 
They did not had open borders but the iron curtain
They praised themselfes not being hedonistic and 'degenerate' society they said the 'capitalist' societies are (drugs, homeless, illiteracy) but most 'progressives' support drug legalisation
Here's a brief history lesson regarding the creation of Communist nations. The goal was to win over the masses. To do that they had to partner with factions they didn't like and make promises they knew they weren't going to keep. Once they convinced the overall population to go along with their scheme, they achieved their goal of taking over the nation. Once in control, they used the military and their own "death squads" to eliminate not only the opposition, but also the factions that they had needed to win over the people but really didn't align with their goals.
These new Communist nations weren't formed in the 21st century, but when people tended to dress similarly and got along fairly well despite having differing opinions on how a nation should be run.
Fast forward to the 21st century and you have a myriad of well.....off the wall lifestyles and ideas. The goal of Communism remains the same, lie and convince the people that they are being taken for granted, oppressed, vilified, and enslaved by corporate greed. That "they" will eliminate the class hierarchy of Capitalism and in a sense, they do. They eliminate the middle-class and very overt rich. What you are left with is a massively poor class and an "inner-politburo" that can jet-set around the world and dine and drink extravagantly at the poor's expense.
As to those who are told that they can have a universal income, believing that they can just sit around and play video games or watch television, because the Communists convince them that they are on their side, those lazy individuals will be among the first peoples gathered up and "disappeared."
 
Here's a brief history lesson regarding the creation of Communist nations. The goal was to win over the masses. To do that they had to partner with factions they didn't like and make promises they knew they weren't going to keep. Once they convinced the overall population to go along with their scheme, they achieved their goal of taking over the nation. Once in control, they used the military and their own "death squads" to eliminate not only the opposition, but also the factions that they had needed to win over the people but really didn't align with their goals.
These new Communist nations weren't formed in the 21st century, but when people tended to dress similarly and got along fairly well despite having differing opinions on how a nation should be run.
Fast forward to the 21st century and you have a myriad of well.....off the wall lifestyles and ideas. The goal of Communism remains the same, lie and convince the people that they are being taken for granted, oppressed, vilified, and enslaved by corporate greed. That "they" will eliminate the class hierarchy of Capitalism and in a sense, they do. They eliminate the middle-class and very overt rich. What you are left with is a massively poor class and an "inner-politburo" that can jet-set around the world and dine and drink extravagantly at the poor's expense.
As to those who are told that they can have a universal income, believing that they can just sit around and play video games or watch television, because the Communists convince them that they are on their side, those lazy individuals will be among the first peoples gathered up and "disappeared."

I think some people in some countries were really opressed like servants in feudal russia. In the USA it was based on race like slavery in russia servititude was not based on race.
 
They did not had open borders but the iron curtain
They praised themselfes not being hedonistic and 'degenerate' society they said the 'capitalist' societies are (drugs, homeless, illiteracy) but most 'progressives' support drug legalisation

Sieg Heil you ******* fascist.
 
Sieg Heil you ******* fascist.
I'm not a fascist. I'm very far left with slightly socially conservative values. I'm not one of the modern 'progressives'. I'm against draq queen story hours for children and against trans health treatment for minors. I want everyone to abide by the law and order, and I'm against criminal violence and drugs. But I also speak out a lot for universal human rights. I'm not racist and I'm for equal rights for men and women and against discrimination against LGBTQ people. I believe that if they're of legal age and want to be trans, then they should be able to and allowed to do so.
 
Thee are two types of people in the world, those who have power and those who don't. The ideas of Marx were really created to help those who have power convince those who don't to overthrow others with more power so they can have more power. There is one constant in any society: Those with power want more power and will fight to the death before they give any of it up. The ideas of Marx help those who want more power to convince the powerless to be sacrificial pawns in their bid to become more powerful.
 
I'm not a fascist. I'm very far left with slightly socially conservative values. I'm not one of the modern 'progressives'. I'm against draq queen story hours for children and against trans health treatment for minors. I want everyone to abide by the law and order, and I'm against criminal violence and drugs. But I also speak out a lot for universal human rights. I'm not racist and I'm for equal rights for men and women and against discrimination against LGBTQ people. I believe that if they're of legal age and want to be trans, then they should be able to and allowed to do so.

YOU call me a COMMUNIST....I CALL YOU A ******* FASCIST. YOU cease with the name calling, I cease with the name calling. YOU had no right you call ME a COMMUNIST. I ******* fought
Communism in Viet Nam. I detest Communism and everything it stands for.

Just because I am a Democrat does NOT make me a Communist. But if YOU insist on calling me that, I will do to YOU what YOU do to me.
 
YOU call me a COMMUNIST....I CALL YOU A ******* FASCIST. YOU cease with the name calling, I cease with the name calling. YOU had no right you call ME a COMMUNIST. I ******* fought
Communism in Viet Nam. I detest Communism and everything it stands for.

Just because I am a Democrat does NOT make me a Communist. But if YOU insist on calling me that, I will do to YOU what YOU do to me.
No im not calling democrats communists you misunderstood this
 
No im not calling democrats communists you misunderstood this

I AM PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT I AM NOT A ******* COMMUNIST! YOU CEASE ******* NAME CALLING AND I WILL THE SAME. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO LIKE MY POLITICS ANY MORE THAN I HAVE TO LIKE YOURS. THAT DOES NOT ENTITLE YOU TO ME A COMMUNIST. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT!
 
support drug legalisation

That is ******* lie, nor do Dems support open borders. Border crossing were DOWN under Biden. Show your ******* proof that Progressive Democrats support drug legalization (proper spelling). YOU throw your lies, it won't work. YOU are LYING ******* FASCIST!
 
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