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Combating the pandemic should never have been a divisive, partisan matter.

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I notice you admit Trump telling rally goers to get vaccinated but can't bring yourself to admit both.
I noted Trump finally recommending vaccination, and his goons booing him for finally coming around. You might not like it, but you can't deny it. It is well-documented.

Senile Joe and Kamala refused to get vaccinated themselves because Trump was the source of the vaccine.
Both the President and Vice President were publicly vaccinated during the Trump regime, and Trump surreptitiously followed their lead weeks later, admitting to it months afterwards.

The President, who was administered the Pfeizer vaccine on December 22, and the Vice President received the Moderna vaccine on December 28.

In your weird worship of one dude, you ignore the reality that the first to be approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, was not funded under Trump's "Operation Warp Speed" - a commendable initiative to be sure, but one that played no part in Pfiezer's breakthrough research and development.
 
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I noted Trump finally recommending vaccination, and his goons booing him for finally coming around. You might not like it, but you can't deny it. It is well-documented.

I'm not trying to deny Trump was booed for recommending people get vaccinated.
I clearly already referenced that.
Both the President and Vice President were publicly vaccinated during the Trump regime, and Trump surreptitiously followed their lead weeks later, admitting to it months afterwards.
Yet, both Joe and the Ho' said they would not get vaccinated due to Trump's connection
thereby politicizing the issue and increasing the vaccine divide in this country.
I myself am vaccinated, by the way, for better or worse.
The President, who was administered the Pfeizer vaccine on December 22, and the Vice President received the Moderna vaccine on December 28.

In your weird worship of one dude, you ignore the reality that the first to be approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, was not funded under Trump's "Operation Warp Speed" - a commendable initiative to be sure, but one that played no part in Pfiezer's breakthrough research and development.
I do not "worship" Donald Trump, despite your repeated gas lighting. Nor do I consider him a "Hitler"
or some existential threat to America, despite your repeated gas lighting.
Your childish claims are tiresome and lame.
 

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I noted Trump finally recommending vaccination, and his goons booing him for finally coming around. You might not like it, but you can't deny it. It is well-documented.

Trump knows he has to own the anti-vaccine stance and now he has to get out from under it. But his supporters showed that they were more committed to the anti-vax agenda than Trump himself.

Will that turn Trump or will he continue to try to convince his supporters that he's done a 180?

Or more likely, Trump will be permitted to put it on one of the back burners.
 

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Blame blame blame instead of what? That's it pick a side & see who can scream nasty stuff louder., instead of stepping out of the insanity. Its not easy but it can be done.
 

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Blame blame blame instead of what? That's it pick a side & see who can scream nasty stuff louder., instead of stepping out of the insanity. Its not easy but it can be done.
There's no blame being put on Trump by me, that he doesn't own. Can anybody really say that he wasn't anti-vax?
 
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Trump knows he has to own the anti-vaccine stance and now he has to get out from under it. But his supporters showed that they were more committed to the anti-vax agenda than Trump himself.

Will that turn Trump or will he continue to try to convince his supporters that he's done a 180?

Or more likely, Trump will be permitted to put it on one of the back burners.
Trump will insist on having it both ways.

The Loser just claimed that an audit bankrolled and conducted by Trumpers that confirmed he lost proved he won.

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Blind faith demands neither honesty not consistency.
 

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Blind faith demands neither honesty not consistency.
There's no possibility of persuading his supporters to abandon his ship, other than the nuclear button issue that they understand could burn their own asses. Along with the asses of the rest of the world.

The General Milley affair!

Or, the CIA or FBI acting covertly before trump gets the chance, for the same reason. Still, it won't be allowed to die completely so there will be regular reminders.

And no doubt there will be covert efforts at work outside of America.

There are just too many mental health professionals issuing warnings about his sociopathy to ignore.
 

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There's no blame being put on Trump by me, that he doesn't own. Can anybody really say that he wasn't anti-vax?
15 Ds in Congress who are MDs said to keep the border open, so eat sh!t.
 

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sadly it was an election year…and the dems can’t help put let a tragic event go to waste…typical move by leftist tyrants….so they made it political and continue to due so.
 

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There's no blame being put on Trump by me, that he doesn't own. Can anybody really say that he wasn't anti-vax?
huh? he created operation Warp Speed to get the vaccine created in historic speed. He was and is totally supportive of the vaccine.
 

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huh? he created operation Warp Speed to get the vaccine created in historic speed. He was and is totally supportive of the vaccine.
Maybe his supporters got the wrong impression from him?
What's the point of a vaccine when Covid was said to be a fake virus that would be gone in two weeks?
 

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Maybe his supporters got the wrong impression from him?
What's the point of a vaccine when Covid was said to be a fake virus that would be gone in two weeks?
who said it was fake?
certainly folks hoped it would go away

Folks might be confused from the mix messages come from the xiden campaign…folks from Harris to cuomo spreading distrust about it

Others simply might not want to get a vaccine for their own personal reasons

I really don’t care…hardly a point when xiden is going to keep the border open and release untested illegals into the country. If this admin isn’t really taking it seriously why should anyone?
 

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Yet that is exactly what the Democrats did. Turned it into a partisan show. What help did Trump get from Schumer or Pelosi? None.
All they did was use it as a partisan issue every single day from the moment Trump imposed a travel ban from China.
Exactly right. You put it simply, truthfully
 
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huh? he created operation Warp Speed to get the vaccine created in historic speed. He was and is totally supportive of the vaccine.
Pfizer, the first to produce an effective and approved vaccine, didn’t receive any funding from Operation Warp Speed for its development, clinical trial, or manufacture, but why do Trump's worshippers boo the Loser now when he pushes vaccination?


His "Big Lie" being exposed in Arizona notwithstanding, why do diehard Trumpers defy his advocacy and that of other Republican politicians such as Jim Justice in West Virginia?

West Virginia is one of the most Republican states in the country. Trump won the state by nearly 40 points in 2020.

West Virginia ranks last in the country for the percentage of the adult population that is fully vaccinated. Just 48% of adults are fully vaccinated, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This makes West Virginia the only state in the country where less than half the adult population is fully vaccinated.

Education rates have been highly correlated with vaccination rates. Indeed, the states in the top 25 for college-educated adults have on average about 10 points more of their adult population vaccinated compared to the states in the bottom 25 for college-educated adults.

West Virginia has fewer adults with a college degree than any state in the nation, and the lowest percentage of adults vaccinated.

Republican Governor Jim Justice's pleas with West Virginians to get vaccinated have been overwhelmed by the demographic and political fundamentals that have plagued the vaccination effort throughout the country.

West Virginia is the worst in the country in current hospitalizations.

West Virginia also has the third most deaths over the last week controlling for population size. The two states with a higher death rate (Alabama and Florida) are in the top half for new vaccinations.


The political divide over vaccinations is so large that almost every reliably blue state now has a higher vaccination rate than almost every reliably red state.
Because the vaccines are so effective at preventing serious illness, Covid deaths are also showing a partisan pattern. Covid is still a national crisis, but the worst forms of it are increasingly concentrated in red America.
Some left-leaning communities — like many suburbs of New York, San Francisco and Washington, as well as much of New England — have such high vaccination rates that even the unvaccinated are partly protected by the low number of cases. Conservative communities, on the other hand, have been walloped by the highly contagious Delta variant.
Since Delta began circulating widely in the U.S., Covid has exacted a horrific death toll on red America: In counties where Donald Trump received at least 70 percent of the vote, the virus has killed about 47 out of every 100,000 people since the end of June, according to Charles Gaba, a health care analyst. In counties where Trump won less than 32 percent of the vote, the number is about 10 out of 100,000.

And the gap will probably keep growing...

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Pfizer, the first to produce an effective and approved vaccine, didn’t receive any funding from Operation Warp Speed for its development, clinical trial, or manufacture, but why do Trump's worshippers boo the Loser now when he pushes vaccination?


His "Big Lie" being exposed in Arizona notwithstanding, why do diehard Trumpers defy his advocacy and that of other Republican politicians such as Jim Justice in West Virginia?

West Virginia is one of the most Republican states in the country. Trump won the state by nearly 40 points in 2020.

West Virginia ranks last in the country for the percentage of the adult population that is fully vaccinated. Just 48% of adults are fully vaccinated, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This makes West Virginia the only state in the country where less than half the adult population is fully vaccinated.

Education rates have been highly correlated with vaccination rates. Indeed, the states in the top 25 for college-educated adults have on average about 10 points more of their adult population vaccinated compared to the states in the bottom 25 for college-educated adults.

West Virginia has fewer adults with a college degree than any state in the nation, and the lowest percentage of adults vaccinated.

Republican Governor Jim Justice's pleas with West Virginians to get vaccinated have been overwhelmed by the demographic and political fundamentals that have plagued the vaccination effort throughout the country.

West Virginia is the worst in the country in current hospitalizations.

West Virginia also has the third most deaths over the last week controlling for population size. The two states with a higher death rate (Alabama and Florida) are in the top half for new vaccinations.


The political divide over vaccinations is so large that almost every reliably blue state now has a higher vaccination rate than almost every reliably red state.
Because the vaccines are so effective at preventing serious illness, Covid deaths are also showing a partisan pattern. Covid is still a national crisis, but the worst forms of it are increasingly concentrated in red America.
Some left-leaning communities — like many suburbs of New York, San Francisco and Washington, as well as much of New England — have such high vaccination rates that even the unvaccinated are partly protected by the low number of cases. Conservative communities, on the other hand, have been walloped by the highly contagious Delta variant.
Since Delta began circulating widely in the U.S., Covid has exacted a horrific death toll on red America: In counties where Donald Trump received at least 70 percent of the vote, the virus has killed about 47 out of every 100,000 people since the end of June, according to Charles Gaba, a health care analyst. In counties where Trump won less than 32 percent of the vote, the number is about 10 out of 100,000.

And the gap will probably keep growing...
1) cool....funding wasn't the only part of the operation....the other part, the fast track part, was the approval and testing.
2) yes, thanks for highlighting that Trump was promoting the vaccine...some folks just didn't want it though for whatever reason
 
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1) cool....funding wasn't the only part of the operation....the other part, the fast track part, was the approval and testing.
2) yes, thanks for highlighting that Trump was promoting the vaccine...some folks just didn't want it though for whatever reason
I don't care if Trumpies now need to ignore his abysmal record in confronting the pandemic and insist that the Loser personally conjured up the vaccine in his bunker.

Why are his goons so lethally deluded concerning the Trump® Miracle Elixir he has touted as of late?

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Both COVID-19 cases and deaths are notably higher in Republican states than in Democratic blue states.
 

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I don't care if Trumpies now need to ignore his abysmal record in confronting the pandemic and insist that the Loser personally conjured up the vaccine in his bunker.

Why are his goons so lethally deluded concerning the Trump® Miracle Elixir he has touted as of late?

Both COVID-n kcasesid h and deaths are notably higher in Republican states than in Democratic blue states.
who said he personally created it in a bunker?

and now you are comparing it to snake oil?
 
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who said he personally created it in a bunker?

and now you are comparing it to snake oil?
Pfizer company personnel have made a point to note that it financed research and development independently. Where do you think Trump created it?

He's a salesman who can't even sell the vaccine to his own cult. It's no wonder his glitzy casinos went bankrupt.
 

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Pfizer company personnel have made a point to note that it financed research and development independently. Where do you think Trump created it?

He's a salesman who can't even sell the vaccine to his own cult. It's no wonder his glitzy casinos went bankrupt.
When did I say Trump created the vaccine?

Great, glad they did, but that wasn't all Operation Warp Speed was about...it was about getting the vaccine approved. The FDA, CDC etc had to approve it and test it....and Trump was able to get that done in Warp Speed.

Geez....you dembot cultist can't see the forest for the trees
 

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