Columbine Survivor Sponsors Bill to Make Guns Legal in Schools

[JimBowie1958]

Well this guy gets it, because he is an intelligent man looking for solutions, not Marxist slogans.


Columbine survivor, now a lawmaker, pushes to legalize guns in schools

Colorado State Rep. Patrick Neville, a survivor of the Columbine High School shooting, introduced a bill Tuesday that would allow guns in Colorado schools.

Neville was a student at Columbine on April 20, 1999, when two peers opened fire, killing 13 people.

“The only thing that is going to stop murderers intent on doing harm is to give good people the legal authority to carry a gun to protect themselves and our children,” Neville said in a statement, according to The Hill.

“More of my friends would still be alive today.”​

 

[JLW]

The bill failed the first time it was proposed and it will fail again. After all what is greater idiocy than advocating that the solution to gun violence is more guns.

 

[pknopp]

I hate the idea that we are teaching kids that schools are a dangerous place. I would remove the police officers we have placed in schools. The odds are extremely small that something like this will happen. There are things that kids do all the time that are far more dangerous. Ride their bike. Get in a car. Cross the street.

There is an artist I like. Laurie Lipton. She does black and white pencil drawings that some consider disturbing. She says she thinks the thoughts she draws is created in part by being a kid and having to do the drill where you would dive under your desk and face away from windows in the early 60's.

Obviously that was all a waste of time. All it did was scare kids. They would be shown movies that would tell them to be prepared to face a world where your parents were dead. This is the same sort of thing we condemn other countries for doing. The difference is, for some they actually do have to face this every day.

That said, I support a persons right to carry and that isn't restricted in the 2nd. I think a teacher that would carry where the students are aware are creating the same sort of message but I suppose that would be their right. I would hope they would reconsider being a teacher.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The bill failed the first time it was proposed and it will fail again. After all what is greater idiocy than advocating that the solution to gun violence is more guns.

That has to be the most stupid retort in the gun debate.

After all what is greater idiocy than advocating that the solution to car accidents is more cars?
After all what is greater idiocy than advocating that the solution to suicide is more people?
After all what is greater idiocy than advocating that the solution to pharmaceutical price gouging is more drugs?
After all what is greater idiocy than advocating that the solution to police shortages is more cops?
After all what is greater idiocy than advocating that the solution to Democrat stupidity is more Democrats?

Most, in fact the vast majority, of problems in the real world do not have a god damned thing to do with supply of the instruments used.

If one is made unavailable, the people with intent to do bad things simply go to something else, a new tool.

How do you people have the brain wattage to think and breathe at the same time?

 

[JOSweetHeart]

“The only thing that is going to stop murderers intent on doing harm is to give good people the legal authority to carry a gun to protect themselves and our children,” Neville said in a statement, according to The Hill.

“More of my friends would still be alive today.”​

I have mixed feelings on the matter. I get where he is coming from, but at the end of the day, allowing more of such freedom will only make it easier for guns to end up in the possession of those who are the opposite of good.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[2aguy]

The bill failed the first time it was proposed and it will fail again. After all what is greater idiocy than advocating that the solution to gun violence is more guns.

Actual truth, facts and reality....you doofus......

These buildings are targeted because they are gun free zones.....we know this because mass public shooters tell us this........

And yes.....more guns = less gun crime.....

In the U.S. as more Americans not only own guns, but now carry them for self defense, our gun murder rate went down 49%...

With what you believe....how do you explain that?

In the U.S. as more Americans not only own but now carry guns our gun crime rate went down 75%....

With what you believe,.....how do you explain that?

In the U.S. as more Americans not only own guns but carry them for self defense, our violent crime rate went down 72%.....

With what you believe, how do you explain that?


Nothing you believe about guns is supported by actual facts, the truth, or reality on the ground......how do you justify your believes beyond simply not liking guns?

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Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.





The anti-gun hypothesis and argument.....

More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.

Actual Result:

In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%

The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....

In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.



Whatever the crime rate does......as more Americans owned more guns the crime rate did not go up....so again...



Britain...
More Guns = More Gun Crime
Britain had access to guns before they banned them.....they had low gun crime, low gun murder.
They banned guns, the gun murder rate spiked for 10 years then returned to the same level...
Your Theory again....
More guns = More Gun Crime
Guns Banned creates no change? That means banning guns for law abiding gun owners had no effect on gun crime.
When your theory states one thing, and you implement your theory, and nothing changes....in science, that means your theory is wrong...
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Maine tops ‘safest states’ rankings four years after removing major gun restriction

When Maine passed a “Constitutional Carry” law allowing Maine residents to carry a concealed firearm without any special permit in 2015, opponents of the law forecast a dangerous future for the state. They said the new law would hurt public safety and put Maine kids at risk.



One state representative who opposed the bill went so far as to say it would give Mainers a reason to be afraid every time they went out in public or to work.

Another state representative suggested the law would lead to violent criminals with recent arrests and convictions legally carrying handguns.


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Now four years later, Maine has been named the safest state in the nation according to US News and World Report’s public safety rankings, which measures the fifty states based on crime data.



Ranking as the top safest state for violent crime and fourth for property crime, Maine edges out another New England state, Vermont, for the top spot. Of note, Vermont also is a “Constitutional Carry” state. New Hampshire ranks third in the national rankings, giving New England all three of the top spots in the nation.

In 2018, Maine was edged out by Vermont in the same “safest states” ranking, but declared the best state overall in the broader “Crime and Corrections” category.

In 2017, using a different methodology, Maine was ranked second among the fifty states in the “Crime and Corrections” category and also second in the categories used to rank the “safest states.”

The U.S. News and World Report “Best States” rankings are built in partnership with McKinsey & Company, a firm that works closely with state leaders around the nation.

Maine has also ranked at the top of other state rankings. WalletHub.com recently ranked Maine second in “Personal and Residential Safety” among the fifty states, and third overall.