Colorado School Shooter a Socialist... and "Bullied"

[Vox]

Where does it say he described himself as a socialist?

it is bolded - those are the words form the article.

Screen shot where it states "Thomas Conrad, who had an economics class with the gunman, described him as a very opinionated Socialist."

If you can't-you're making it up.

there is a screenshot in the links

http://twitchy.com/2013/12/14/denver-post-scrubs-socialist-from-profile-of-arapahoe-shooter/
http://www.mediaite.com/online/denv...list-from-profile-of-arapahoe-school-shooter/

 

[alan1]

Colorado School Shooter a Socialist... and "Bullied"
Arapahoe High gunman held strong political beliefs, classmates said - The Denver Post

Awesome.



peace...

"Bullied".
I'm sick and tired of the term "Bullied". Grow a pair. Quit being wimps.
Anybody over 12 that snivels about being bullied should be removed from the gene pool.

 

[Vox]

Oh and OP, where did it say "Socialist"? Wow.

in the edited article.

read the links - there are screenshots.

 

[Plasmaball]

If the shooter had been a Tea Party member we never would have heard the end of it.

So.....

We never hear the end of it period. Thats the point.

Your party and supporters have claimed every mass shooting shooter was a rightwinger for years now. Never any proof, the blood hasn't even dried and the left media always comes out with a claim the shooter was a tea party supporter or far right wing nutbar. And in every case but one they have been proven wrong. Then suddenly it doesn't matter what political ideology the shooter had.

This time they couldn't do it cause the initial report stated he was Socialist. And of course THAT was quickly pulled down from the left wing press.

Your supporters, your party are the ghouls lying through their teeth about what and why it happened. All for an agenda. Dead kids make the best argument for you ghouls.

Im not the left. Once you get that through your moronic head we can continue. I am not a party, either speak to me as a person with their own opinions or go jump off a high building

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I assure you if this 18-year-old had been a Bible Thumping, Right Wing Zealot who had links on his Facebook page to Rush Limbaugh there would be quite a few Board Liberals this Thread right now.



peace...

I also started a thread on this shooting seems the topic in that thread is focusing on the teacher.

well, the teacher is obviously a coward.

One girl's life is over and STILL you idiots want more kids killed or maimed.

Even if his contract said he should allow himself to be murdered in the line of duty, he was still right to draw fire away from the students.

Quit whining about it. There will be many more mass shootings and I'm sure more students will be killed next time. You can hold your celebration then.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

He was "bullied" is the new excuse for liberal/progressive nut cases.

It changes the perpetrator from evil criminal to hapless victim that deserves pity. ....

except the ones who started the trend in Columbine were also bullied - but then the problem was dissected, addressed and for almost 10 years the situation was relatively calm in that dimension until the recent shootings when it is obvious nobody is even attempting to address the bottom line issues but starts the hysteria about guns and gun control.

The recent incidents all over the US have been very different in their root causes - the most unpredictable and massive are connected to severe mental instability and it does not look like the perpetrators there have had any grudges particularly against the people attacked - it was basically a show, a random one.

But this case does not lok like that, because the student was looking for a particular teacher and had the history which can push to such reactions.
Personally, I think, that if the teacher would not run away - the negotiable solution would be quite possible. If the student would like just to shoot the teacher in revenge - he won't come to school, he would just wait for him in the bushes near his home.
The element of super drama and visibility clearly points that he, most probably, just wanted to threaten ( stupid as well) and not kill. The teacher's cowardice angered him and provoked to shooting randomly and suicide.

Putting all the incidents together does not serve the prevention of the problem solution at all - as prevention begins in the realization of the cause.

???he legally purchased the gun on Dec. 6. Entered the school with the gun, 4 machetes in his back pack and ammunition strapped to his chest. and the 2 Molotov cocktails.

But he was looking to "negotiate".

He entered and walked down the hallway, randomly firing his shotgun. That's how the poor girl was shot in the head and, according to some, the beginning of his "negotiating".

But, he was looking to "negotiate".

If only the teacher had stayed to protect those kids - there would most certainly be a lot of bodies. Just fallout from the "negotiation".

 

[Luddly Neddite]

well, the teacher is obviously a coward.

One article said the teacher ran out hoping to draw the shooter out of the school.

well, that clearly failed.

but nobody tells why the teacher was the target.

Actually, it was obviously successful. Or are there a lot of dead bodies that have not been reported?

And, link after link has stated why the teacher was the target.

 

[Vox]

I also started a thread on this shooting seems the topic in that thread is focusing on the teacher.

well, the teacher is obviously a coward.

One girl's life is over and STILL you idiots want more kids killed or maimed.

Even if his contract said he should allow himself to be murdered in the line of duty, he was still right to draw fire away from the students.

Quit whining about it. There will be many more mass shootings and I'm sure more students will be killed next time. You can hold your celebration then.

one girl's life might have been untouched if the teacher won't run - by the first accounts.

Or not - by the next ones.

The articles coming are contradictory to the point that it is impossible to actually make your mind one way or the other - so I am not necessarily 100% agreeing with my own previous statement ( it was based on early info).

Neither can you, or anybody else, as we are clearly not being told what REALLY happened.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

What's with all these shootings in COLORADO? I thought Colorado was a leftard utopia, all libroids, no guns, all so tolerant and enlightened.... but here we are with stories of kids being BULLIED to the point of going BAT SHIT SHOOTER CRAZY in this LIBERAL UTOPIA COLORADO... WTF...

Nope.

Hotbed of radical rw nutters now.

Douglas county isn't as bad as the western slope but its getting there. It will soon be as backward, poor and dependent on liberal welfare programs as the southern states.

 

[Vox]

One article said the teacher ran out hoping to draw the shooter out of the school.

well, that clearly failed.

but nobody tells why the teacher was the target.

Actually, it was obviously successful. Or are there a lot of dead bodies that have not been reported?

And, link after link has stated why the teacher was the target.

no, it was not as the girl was shot - and by some description exactly because the teacher ran away.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

There is a serious problem going on in this nation and the op felt it would be best to prove how much of a moronic troll he can be.

You're right.


All of this violence takes place in gun-free zones.

Leftwingers are shooting people left and right because they feel they have a reason to be pissed off at the world.

Wrong as usual.

As with so many of these shootings, there was an armed guard on campus.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

"opiniated"
"socialist"
"bible"
yadda yadda

So, according to the rw's ALL opinionated, sicialist, bible-readers are mass murderers.

Why not stick to facts.

For a change.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

piss off partisan blindfolded moron.
he was 18.

The teacher is not blame in any way. The 18 year old made a decision to arm himself and go to a school, he intended to murder an unarmed teacher and when he couldn't do that he shot unarmed girl.

At 18 one is quite capable of understanding right from wrong and handling disappointments in life.

The left has spent a lot of time teaching the young how to NOT handle life but they still get the idea.

it is not the blame ( as they describe the events now it is very difficult to actually believe anything), it is the motives behind the actions.
Based on the initial description ( which is like a different incident from the recent descriptions) his actions looked like cowardice.
The further depictions of what happened is so contradictory ( I pointed that out yesterday in some thread and one other poster noted that as well) that it is impossible to tell who is lying ( and somebody obviously is) - the authorities, the school administrations or the teacher himself.

you do not know what was the intention of the 18 y.o. upon entering the school - if one wants to murder the teacher - one does not go to hunt him in a large school but waits for him in the bushes near his home when nobody sees.

how to deal with disappointment in life is not taught anymore either by parents, or by school - and the youth is growing up as if they will never encounter a setback.


btw, by descriptions in all yesterday articles it was not clear, when he shot the girl - in the same article they were saying he shot her upon entering the school ( before even looking for the teacher) and in the next paragraph they were telling that he shot her upon learning that the teacher left the school.

Heavily armed with a shotgun, Molotov cocktails and other weapons, entered firing the shotgun as he walked down the hallway ... what do you think? He was there for high tea?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Arapahoe High gunman held strong political beliefs, classmates said - The Denver Post

Awesome.



peace...

mmm... here's is a paragraph from your link,

"Even before authorities named the gunman, friends and neighbors were in shock as word spread that Pierson was a dedicated, bright student from a religious family that attends Bible study meetings."

I read the entire article and there is no mention of his leaning toward Socialism. Please explain your lead, it seems to me to be biased hyperbole (at best).

Now maybe I'm being harsh and in fact those who engage in "Bible study" are Socialists, and believe in murder. Please enlighten me.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Screen shot where it states "Thomas Conrad, who had an economics class with the gunman, described him as a very opinionated Socialist."

If you can't-you're making it up.

The Denver Post edited it out. I am asking them for the reason and lack of retraction.



peace...

Wasn't aware of that. Touche!

mal is asking the Denver Post the reason for the edit???????

LOL

Denver Post scrubs ?socialist? from profile of Arapahoe shooter | Twitchy

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Oh and OP, where did it say "Socialist"? Wow.

National Socialist Nazi Party ...

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Colorado School Shooter a Socialist... and "Bullied"
Arapahoe High gunman held strong political beliefs, classmates said - The Denver Post

Awesome.



peace...

"Bullied".
I'm sick and tired of the term "Bullied". Grow a pair. Quit being wimps.
Anybody over 12 that snivels about being bullied should be removed from the gene pool.

Great way to deal with mental illness.

Let me guess ...

Ignorant rw, right?

 

[Avatar4321]

Arapahoe High gunman held strong political beliefs, classmates said - The Denver Post

Awesome.



peace...

It does not matter what his political beliefs were. He was definitely pushed to the edge.

a teenager is a very unstable human being.
and it is very easy to push them to or over the edge.

especially the susceptible ones.

The adults here are the ones to be blamed. I would start with the coward teacher.

Really? The only person I blame for this is him. He is an adult. He is responsible for his own actions.

We all have stresses in life. I don't know a single person who has never been insulted or mocked or bullied to some degree. But few have ever become killers.

 

[Avatar4321]

Arapahoe High gunman held strong political beliefs, classmates said - The Denver Post

Awesome.



peace...

One thing I have noticed with the past few teen shooters is that their parents had been divorced within a year or two. The kids no doubt, lived under an atmosphere of anxiety and insecurity for years before that, between the parents? Parental fighting or tensions can push a sensitive kid over the edge, leaving them little to hope for, or live for, and killing or taking out revenge upon another is an expression of their unresolved hostilities.

So sick, our society has become...so very, very sad....

The breakdown in the family is the cause of so many of societies ills and few are willing to address or admit the real problem.

 

[Vox]

Arapahoe High gunman held strong political beliefs, classmates said - The Denver Post

Awesome.



peace...

It does not matter what his political beliefs were. He was definitely pushed to the edge.

a teenager is a very unstable human being.
and it is very easy to push them to or over the edge.

especially the susceptible ones.

The adults here are the ones to be blamed. I would start with the coward teacher.

Really? The only person I blame for this is him. He is an adult. He is responsible for his own actions.

We all have stresses in life. I don't know a single person who has never been insulted or mocked or bullied to some degree. But few have ever become killers.

oh, give me a break. a just turned 18 yo is not an adult - he is a high school student and does not know anything about life.
all his actions are the result of the actions of adults in his life and in the society in general.

and his actions are the direct result of the direction the society is taking.