Co2 Fraud hasn't fudged all data, surface air pressure for one....

[Dagosa]

The claim was made in Gore's movie, and now it is COURT CERTIFIED BULLSHIT

What court is that ? Show your reference other than from a conservative rag.

 

[Dagosa]

The only islands that are "sinking" are attached to tectonic plates approaching Pacific Ring of Fire. Those islands will eventually end up under the Earth's crust. The Marshall Islands, the Solomon Islands, those are going to be toast...

Show us the source if your pictures ?

 

[Dagosa]

The Co2 FRAUD has touted Marshall Islands as "ocean rise," but gets busted too easily, so they stopped...

Life in a disappearing country

It's one of the clearest injustices of climate change: The Marshall Islands likely won't exist if we warm the planet 2 degrees. I traveled to the remote Pacific to learn what it's like to try to process that doomsday forecast. And why some people already are making the painful decision to leave...

www.cnn.com

2015

When confronted about PROF, the Co2 FRAUD backed off...

Where ? What proof. Your pictures have no relationship to AGW….they are pictures with no source, no relationship other than your babble.

 

[EMH]

Where did your little chart come from. Give us a reference ! Where ?

Go to Google and type in EM Spectrum, and learn something about science for the first time...

 

[EMH]

Show us the source if your pictures ?

Show us something that refutes those pictures as subduction...

 

[Dagosa]

Show us something that refutes those pictures as subduction...

Your pictures mean nothing without a reference. NOTHING.

 

[Dagosa]

Go to Google and type in EM Spectrum, and learn something about science for the first time...

Sorry dufus. It’s your picture, not mine.

 

[justoffal]

The ideal gas law states that PV = NkT, where P is the absolute pressure of a gas, V is the volume it occupies, N is the number of atoms and molecules in the gas, and T is its absolute temperature.



In truth, the Earth's atmosphere is not "contained" like a glass jar, but it is "force constrained" by gravity, and hence all of the above applies.


Increase temperature = increase pressure
Increase atoms of gas = increase pressure


How does the Co2 Fraud explain why Earth surface air pressure is flat to down??

BUSTED

That essentially is the prosecution, assuming Chris Wray doesn't allow the Co2 FRAUD to fudge everything AGAIN...

So you're saying that the ppm of CO2 is decreasing?

 

[Dagosa]

YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CANNOT HIDE


The Co2 FRAUD is 100% COMPLETELY BUSTED by the SURFACE AIR PRESSURE DATA.

They cannot explain it.

It completely refutes their narrative.

It would take a 30 minute trial with a jury that passed at least one high school science course to covict.

The claim that temperature is going up and a net ice melt is ongoing is BULLSHIT and the SURFACE AIR PRESSURE DATA 100% PROVES IT.

Made up shit. Your babble is all over the place.

 

[Dagosa]

Just ignore the fudged "sea level" which is "rising" because it is all fudge, and that is why the "warmers" cannot show us ONE SINGLE PHOTO of a land mass "sinking" due to "ocean rise

Hilarious. You want to use a chart but disregard that part of the chart you disagree with and only consider that part you agree with…..you’re hilariously ignorant.

 

[EMH]

So you're saying that the ppm of CO2 is decreasing?

Obsessed with Co2, are you....

Actually Surface Air Pressure measures the atmosphere, not just 400 ppm of Co2.

When ice age glacier melts, it releases tons of gas trapped inside back into the atmosphere, which should increase Surface Air Pressure. That is not happening. The question is why.

For every foot of snow, there is 1 inch of water and 11 inches of air. When that "ice layer" is buried under 1000 others on top, it gets compressed to an inch or less.

For Antarctica, there is at least 50 million cubic miles of gas inside at todays' surface air pressure level.

 

[EMH]

Hilarious. You want to use a chart but disregard that part of the chart you disagree with and only consider that part you agree with…..you’re hilariously ignorant.

The sea level readings are FUDGE, which is why you and 10k incompetent liars known as "climate scientists" cannot show us


ONE SINGLE PHOTO

of ocean "rise."

 

[justoffal]

Obsessed with Co2, are you....

Actually Surface Air Pressure measures the atmosphere, not just 400 ppm of Co2.

When ice age glacier melts, it releases tons of gas trapped inside back into the atmosphere, which should increase Surface Air Pressure. That is not happening. The question is why.

For every foot of snow, there is 1 inch of water and 11 inches of air. When that "ice layer" is buried under 1000 others on top, it gets compressed to an inch or less.

For Antarctica, there is at least 50 million cubic miles of gas inside at todays' surface air pressure level.

Not obsessed Just trying to make sure all the data lines up.

I'm very happy about the CO2 increase over the past 10 years.

I've watched a noticeable flourish in greenery including better gardens.

 

[EMH]

Not obsessed Just trying to make sure all the data lines up.

I'm very happy about the CO2 increase over the past 10 years.

I've watched a noticeable flourish in greenery including better gardens.

Well, adding Co2 to the atmosphere does NOTHING from a CLIMATE CHANGE perspective...

sincerely,

highly correlated satellite and balloon data

 

[justoffal]

Well, adding Co2 to the atmosphere does NOTHING from a CLIMATE CHANGE perspective...

sincerely,

highly correlated satellite and balloon data

I have always doubted whether or not we could affect something as large as the Earth's climate. At least not on the scale that we are at now.
Though I have been mocked and discredited for pointing out that the Sun is currently progressing toward the Red Giant stage. Burning 600 million tons of hydrogen per second It is losing approximately 5 million tons per second in mass. The loss of mass is expressed in the changement of mass to energy in outgoing radiance. As the mass decreases the Sun becomes infinitesimally brighter moment by moment, radiating more energy out per cubic unit. Ergo it is inevitable that we will get warmer not from CO2 or from pollution of any kind but from continuously increasing luminosity. This is something we are powerless to do anything about.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Obsessed with Co2, are you....

Actually Surface Air Pressure measures the atmosphere, not just 400 ppm of Co2.

When ice age glacier melts, it releases tons of gas trapped inside back into the atmosphere, which should increase Surface Air Pressure. That is not happening. The question is why.

For every foot of snow, there is 1 inch of water and 11 inches of air. When that "ice layer" is buried under 1000 others on top, it gets compressed to an inch or less.

For Antarctica, there is at least 50 million cubic miles of gas inside at todays' surface air pressure level.

When ice age glacier melts, it releases tons of gas trapped inside back into the atmosphere, which should increase Surface Air Pressure. That is not happening. The question is why.

Warmer air rises, reducing pressure at the surface.
Congrats, you've just proven global warming.

 

[EMH]

I have always doubted whether or not we could affect something as large as the Earth's climate. At least not on the scale that we are at now.
Though I have been mocked and discredited for pointing out that the Sun is currently progressing toward the Red Giant stage. Burning 600 million tons of hydrogen per second It is losing approximately 5 million tons per second in mass. The loss of mass is expressed in the changement of mass to energy in outgoing radiance. As the mass decreases the Sun becomes infinitesimally brighter moment by moment, radiating more energy out per cubic unit. Ergo it is inevitable that we will get warmer not from CO2 or from pollution of any kind but from continuously increasing luminosity. This is something we are powerless to do anything about.

Eventually the Sun will expand and burn up Earth beyond our ability to survive on Earth, but that is at least a billion years away from now.

The SUN also completely fails the

GREENLAND FROZE WHILE NORTH AMERICA THAWED ISSUE


since the SUN would either melt or freeze both, not one but not the other...


The only explanation for that is tectonic plate movement. Greenland froze because it was moving NW and got to 600 miles to the pole. North America thawed because it moved SW (on the same vector on a sphere) and out of the 600 miles to the pole range (except for Ellesmere Island, which is still in ice age and has 0.3% of Earth's total ice on it)

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The SUN also completely fails the

GREENLAND FROZE WHILE NORTH AMERICA THAWED ISSUE

You still haven't shown the dates prior to this event,
when North America was frozen at the same time Greenland was thawed.

Why is that?

 

[EMH]

You still haven't shown the dates prior to this event,
when North America was frozen at the same time Greenland was thawed.

Why is that?

Actually it is your and McBullshit's laughable claim that the 2.5 mile thick glaciers on Chicago were only 75k years old that blew up your side and proved the truth you hate so much.... right here....

How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

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This is where the climate debate is now stuck.

Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today.

Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very "Dennis Quaid" approach to ice ages - they are lightning fast, quick, and agile. They come and go really fast.

Since 2010, Milankovitch has replaced "North American Ice Age" with the claim that the ice on Chicago recently that was 2.5 miles thick was only 75k years old.

Really....

My side, which is just me now, since all of the pre 2010 reports on North American Ice Age online have been "canceled" and replaced by McBullshit, is that North America was covered with Ice Age glacier down to Chicago and beyond for 30-50 million years.


So we have a dispute, a healthy thing for SCIENCE...

What is the EVIDENCE???


1. LIFE

Any evidence of LIFE on Chicago for the past 50 million years .... NO

Any evidence of LIFE on Greenland.... YES

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green

Greenland was once carpeted in lush forests, a new study shows.

www.livescience.com

The DNA is proof that sometime between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, much of Greenland was especially green and covered in a boreal forest that was home to alder, spruce and pine trees, as well as insects such as butterflies and beetle

A 2-million-year-old ecosystem in Greenland uncovered by environmental DNA - Nature

Analysis of two-million-year-old ancient environmental DNA from the Kap København Formation in North Greenland shows there was an open boreal forest with diverse plant and animal species, of which several taxa have not previously been detected at the site, representing an ecosystem that has no...

www.nature.com

So it is fair to say that the ice covering Greenland started up north in the past 2 million years, got to the middle of Greenland 400-800k years ago, and flushed out the Vikings in the 1400s on the southern tip, since when the Vikings found the Southern Tip of Greenland, they called it GREENland because it was green and were able to farm there for centuries before the Greenland ice age pushed them off...


Any evidence of life on Antarctica?

antarctic dinosaurs 70 million years ago - Google Search
This Cretaceous period dinosaur lived about 70 million years ago, towards the end of the Mesozoic Era. A bipedal, long-necked, plant-eating dinosaur (a sauropod) was discovered in the Antarctic interior by William R. Hammer and his team in late 2003.


For the record, prior to 2010 nobody disputed that Antarctic ice was at least 40 million years old. McBullshit disputes that completely...


2. Speed of ice age glacier

Indeed, the data from Greenland above is the best data we have, since it is recent and conclusive. It took Greenland's ice age somewhere between 500k years and 2 million years from its beginning at the northern part of Greenland to get to where it is now.


That is WAY SLOWER than McBullshit suggests.


3. size of the glacier

Greenland's ice is not yet 2 miles thick anywhere. Below the Arctic Circle, Greenland's ice is under 1 mile thick.

Hence the claim of 2.5 mile thick glacier on Chicago being 75k years old is, well, NOT SUPPORTED BY DATA POINT GREENLAND at all.

Antarctica has 2.5 mile thick glacier. There is a dispute over the age of those too. McBullshit claims it is not that old and that while sitting on the South Pole Antarctica has frozen and thawed over and over like Dennis Quaid claimed in the movie "Day After Tomorrow"

4. ice cores

antarctic ice cores years - Google Search
The oldest continuous ice core records to date extend 123,000 years in Greenland and 800,000 years in Antarctica. Ice cores contain information about past temperature, and about many other aspects of the environment


And hence it is fair to say that the 2.5 mile thick glacier on Antarctica is WAY OLDER than 75k years... to put it mildly.

Even the Greenland ice is way older than that too, and it has yet to get to 2 miles thick



5. tectonic plate movement

Reiny recently claimed Greenland is part of North America. Not on my map. But it is on the SAME TECTONIC PLATE moving on the same vector because of the angle of the fault in the North Atlantic

north atlantic ocean floor map - Bing

Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.

www.bing.com

That fault has pushed Greenland NW and Europe SE for tens of millions of years, and hence explains why all of Europe's glaciers are melting while Greenland went into ice age. It was also pushing North America NW until NA got to its closest point to the pole, and then NA started moving SW on the SAME VECTOR on a SPHERE...

Accepting the 600 miles to the pole = your land entered an ice age

North America would have been in ice age for 30-50 million years, and would have been where Greenland is today 30-50 million years ago. The accepted date of that prior to 2010 was 50 million years...




Hence, the evidence that the glaciers on Chicago 2.5 miles thick were 75k years old is contrary to ALL DATA ON ICE AGES AND GLACIERS on the planet today.

The ice cores prove glaciers 2.5 miles thick TODAY are WAY OLDER than 75k years.

So is McBullshit wrong??


To me that is shockingly obvious. McBullshit is about fudging climate history after homO went silent

obama climate silence 2010 2012 - Google Search

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Actually it is your and McBullshit's laughable claim that the 2.5 mile thick glaciers on Chicago were only 75k years old that blew up your side and proved the truth you hate so much.... right here....

How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

www.usmessageboard.com

You won't be showing those dates?

How sad.