Close the gap between Rich and Poor Americans.

[jasonnfree]

No matter what you do, the stupid will remain poor

You can do a lot to fix stupid with the right kind of education system...Not only book smarts but skilled base education like craft schools.

The conservatives don't have a plan besides give it all to the higher class.

Where they gonna work, genius? China? Japan? Germany?

Not here, I can tell you that much. Not with dimocrap scum ruining the economy

I worked at a Company that required a 'Business Plan' every year. Don't ask...

They top guys (half-million dollar incomes +) would submit their Business Plan with the simple words, "Same as last year".

The rest of us would have to draw up detailed plans.

Know why that is, dumb-fuck?

Because if you're already the best, you don't need to change. Republicans kick ass, dimocrap scum fuck things up.

And for over 100 years, this Country did just fine... Until dimocrap scum came along.

Now look..... The young have the highest unemployment rate since the Great Depression. So do Blacks.

The young also have the highest College Debt and the lowest chance of landing a good job -- In American History. Ever.

And the same people who fucked the economy up are trying to tell us they know how to fix it?

Great.

dimocraps are too stupid for words.

dimocrap scum dimocrap scum dimocrap scum dimocrap scum
Ever change your act? You were probably a low paid plant security guard at that "company". You snitched on the workers and sucked up to the bosses like a lot of security guards do. Then you became a union hater when you tried to get a better paid union job but the union wouldn't let you in because the workers had you pegged as a low life snitch.

 

[Geaux4it]

I'm posting this as Public Service.

I doubt it will do any good, but here goes--

Ace of Spades HQ

Articles like this make me wonder if the bien pensant journalist-and-pundit class knows any actual poor people. I was born poor, grew up poor, and spent a good chunk of my 20's poor. Not genteel poor, either -- I mean hard, stony-bottom, empty-pocket poor. I come from poor people.

Poor people don't think about money in the same way that more well-off people do. When you're poor, money -- and the lack thereof -- informs your every moment, waking and sleeping. You know exactly, at any given moment, how much money you have, down to the penny. How much in the bank, how much in your jeans, how much in the coffee can on the counter at home. Every purchase is a choice -- if I buy this six-pack now, that means hot dogs instead of hamburger for dinner tomorrow; if I pay my cable bill, that means that instead of dinner and a movie my best girl and I get to spend a night at home watching the TV. You triage your bills -- rent comes first, then heat. Then...you decide: cable or cellphone? Who can you put off the longest? How long can you float things?

You start with the credit cards because you figure you have the right to treat yourself once in a while. If you have to sit at home instead of going out, what's wrong with having a nice flat-screen TV to watch? And then the car went south, and that blew a $500 dollar hole in your budget, so you had put your groceries and gas on the credit card that week just to make ends meet. The kids needed new clothes and shoes and supplies for school. You've got to pay the minimums on the card just to keep things going, and the balance just creeps higher and higher until you're butting up against the limit. Then you get another card, and maybe the old lady gets one too. And pretty soon...well. You wake up at night in a cold sweat because you know that bankruptcy and ruin are only a breath away. It's not just a question of if you lose your job or get sick and can't work; it's a question of losing the overtime hours you've become accustomed to, or if the wife goes back to part-time instead of full time. You realize you're barely treading water as it is; it would only take a small wave to drown you.

The thing is...when you're poor, credit isn't a way to live a life beyond your means. Your day-to-day doesn't change much. Yes, some people splurge on stupid shit like vacations and electronics and clothes. But lots of poor people just get accustomed to living just slightly beyond their means. It's stupid because it's perfectly possible to live reasonably comfortably on even a fairly low wage, but it takes one critical thing that many poor people lack -- the ability to think ahead. To plan not just a week or two ahead, but months or years ahead. Poor people don't think about the future much because honestly they feel that it doesn't hold much for them (and they're often right). The future is the end of the week; it's having enough money to make the rent and have enough left over to go to the clubs on the weekend. Credit buys little pleasures, not big ones: new shoes, a dinner out with the wife, a small gadget or some DVD's. Something to bring some pleasure into an otherwise pretty drab life.

Poor people, in short, are not stupid. They just don't see their options as being particularly varied, and they have very short time-preferences. They spend their money where they figure it will do them the most good in the short term. They don't actually use their credit differently than other people -- they use it at need, for critical out-of-budget stuff (car or home repairs, medical bills) or to purchase entertainment items (electronics, movies, etc.). The problem is that poor people can't pay down that debt. Most poor people don't go extravagantly nuts with credit cards, but the burden creeps and creeps and creeps because they can only ever pay the minimums.

I always push Dave Ramsey's course on people, and you can get some of it free through churches and civic groups. I don't agree with everything he says, but he's one of the only financial planners I know who focuses on lower-middle-class and poor folks with financial advice. Rich people don't need financial advice -- poor people do. Poor people, in general, are not victims. They are not poor because they were cheated, or because they were hampered in their careers by someone else. Mostly, they are poor because they are unskilled and made bad life choices. But even then, it is not only possible but not all that difficult to live a moderately comfortable life with a small income -- all you need is to follow some simple rules. The first of which is: avoid debt like the plague. If it's a question of buy it with cash or do without, then learn to do without.

To boil it down to gravy: poor people are poor because they behave differently than wealthier people. Change the behavior, and you change your financial situation. It really is just that simple.

That would require personal accountability. Once again, the radical leftist gun grabbing loons refuse to use that word in their dysfunctional vocabulary.

-Geaux

 

[Edgetho]

Adopt Japans educational system that is 1#. Ours is 17th...

Set out some goals and areas of strength that we can compete in. Slave labor is a loser!!!

With Public Teachers Unions defending rapist teachers? With Public Teachers Unions defending Teachers disseminating porn at work?

With the new 'Common Core' curriculum? And what a joke that is...

Not gonna happen.

 

[Geaux4it]

rightwinger does not realize it yet, but the government has adjusted the definition of the word 'rich' to include him.

I am willing to contribute more, I would rather see more programs that help my kids

programs for our kids? Plllleeeeeease.....

That's what got a loser like Obama elected in the first place. If you grow up relying on government to tell you when to wipe your ass, well, then......

-Geaux

 

[The Rabbi]

Corporations are not people. Corporate lawyers would call corporations national monuments if they could. Corporate lawyers are arguing corporations are people to pervert the law, nothing more, nothing less. If corporations are people so much try taking one to court for littering or disturbing the peace or physical/mental abuse or murder for that matter.

Take it up with the Supreme Court.

You agree with that ruling and I don't. What's your point? That you agree with the Supreme Court 100% of the time? The Supreme Court, in its entire history, has never made a ruling you disagree with?

What ruling are you talking about?

 

[The Rabbi]

I find it quite ironic that income inequality has rapidly increased during the presidency of a democrat, especially since part of that presidency included democrat control of both houses of congress.
It's almost as if they purposely advanced income inequality so that they could squeal about it like the pigs that they are.
I like my bacon thick cut.

Are you intentionally obtuse or really so ignorant of the Constitution and the rules of the H. of Rep. and the Senate?

That would be you if you think the Democrats have not controlled Congress for since 2007.

 

[jasonnfree]

WHY ??????? is it that whiny, slobbering, runny nosed leftwing nuts hate "RICH" people and want their wealth redistributed to the "POOR", the rich are rich because they put in an effort to become rich, the por are poor because most of them were born into poor families who have been on welfare since LBJ gave them their first welfare check..., BUT !! with a little effort and a will to succeed, a person born into poverty can do what these 18 people done.......,
18 people who went from being poor to mega rich - Rediff.com Business

so get off your lazy asses poor folk who are on the .gov dole and put in a little EFFORT to get out of your ditch.

The sad part is, you, like so many americans believe this fantasy. The rich are rich cause they work harder. Usually, it's inherited wealth also. Sure, out of millions, the odds are, 18 people can become wealthy. Doesn't mean millions can.

 

[Sallow]

Conservative Anti-Union, Anti-Environment, Anti-Labor, Anti-Regulation policies cause misery, yet they have the gaul to blame Liberals. And the impoverished.

Just amazing.

 

[The Rabbi]

Conservative Anti-Union, Anti-Environment, Anti-Labor, Anti-Regulation policies cause misery, yet they have the gaul to blame Liberals. And the impoverished.

Just amazing.

Tell that to WI voters.

 

[Sallow]

WHY ??????? is it that whiny, slobbering, runny nosed leftwing nuts hate "RICH" people and want their wealth redistributed to the "POOR", the rich are rich because they put in an effort to become rich, the por are poor because most of them were born into poor families who have been on welfare since LBJ gave them their first welfare check..., BUT !! with a little effort and a will to succeed, a person born into poverty can do what these 18 people done.......,
18 people who went from being poor to mega rich - Rediff.com Business

so get off your lazy asses poor folk who are on the .gov dole and put in a little EFFORT to get out of your ditch.

The sad part is, you, like so many americans believe this fantasy. The rich are rich cause they work harder. Usually, it's inherited wealth also. Sure, out of millions, the odds are, 18 people can become wealthy. Doesn't mean millions can.

Every conservative is just a lottery ticket away from the big bucks.

 

[Sallow]

Conservative Anti-Union, Anti-Environment, Anti-Labor, Anti-Regulation policies cause misery, yet they have the gaul to blame Liberals. And the impoverished.

Just amazing.

Tell that to WI voters.

You tell them.

Perhaps you missed Walker surviving a recall by the skin of his teeth.

Walker didn't run on Union busting either. Which means he lied.

And he's got a tough fight for re-election.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is still expected to be reelected in 2014, but not by much. The most recent statewide poll from Marquette University Law School puts the governor two points ahead likely Democratic challenger Mary Burke, 47-45.

Read more: Marquette Poll: Scott Walker faces close reelection race in 2014 : Ct

 

[dcraelin]

good article on how the rich are getting richer

The Federal Reserve Inflates Another Bubble, But Not for You » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

we need to tax rich at a higher rate before its too late and this country crashes and burns

 

[Edgetho]

There are 7 Million (Seven Million) more people in poverty now than when the lying-cocksucker-in-chief took office.

Just that simple.

Even the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM are getting tired of the lying bitch's excuses.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nusMsD5s4hQ]Jay Carney talks to ABC - YouTube[/ame]

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"the Middle Class has been buried these past four years" -- Oct 2012, Joe "MIA" Biden describing Democrat economic plans

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Conservative Anti-Union, Anti-Environment, Anti-Labor, Anti-Regulation policies cause misery, yet they have the gaul to blame Liberals. And the impoverished.

Just amazing.

Obama is a Conservative?

Really?

 

[Wildman]

WHY ??????? is it that whiny, slobbering, runny nosed leftwing nuts hate "RICH" people and want their wealth redistributed to the "POOR", the rich are rich because they put in an effort to become rich, the por are poor because most of them were born into poor families who have been on welfare since LBJ gave them their first welfare check..., BUT !! with a little effort and a will to succeed, a person born into poverty can do what these 18 people done.......,
18 people who went from being poor to mega rich - Rediff.com Business

so get off your lazy asses poor folk who are on the .gov dole and put in a little EFFORT to get out of your ditch.

The sad part is, you, like so many americans believe this fantasy. The rich are rich cause they work harder. Usually, it's inherited wealth also. Sure, out of millions, the odds are, 18 people can become wealthy. Doesn't mean millions can.

no, millions can not, but any INDIVIDUAL could, even that dumbshit Shallow could if he had the intelligence and motivation, but his expertise is lying, spamming and fear.

 

[Iceweasel]

To boil it down to gravy: poor people are poor because they behave differently than wealthier people. Change the behavior, and you change your financial situation. It really is just that simple.

True and many people still come here with nothing and do pretty well while their poor neighbor born and raised here never moves out of the trailer.

Blaming the rich is a diversion for furthering socialism, the opposite of what the real answer is. A thriving economy is better for everyone (even the socialists that preach against capitalism), more opportunity, more pay, better living.

The malcontents and progressives make the loudest noises and too many people have listened to their message. Confiscating ALL the wealth from all the wealthy won't run this government but for short while (days?).

The government is too big, spends too much, borrows too much and many Americans follow the same principle. It won't work.

 

[SwimExpert]

You can do a lot to fix stupid with the right kind of education system...Not only book smarts but skilled base education like craft schools.

No, you can't fix stupid. It's a decision people make, which eventually results in permanent disability. You, Abby, and friends over in the Enviro section are evidence of that.

 

[SwimExpert]

Corporations are not people. Corporate lawyers would call corporations national monuments if they could. Corporate lawyers are arguing corporations are people to pervert the law, nothing more, nothing less. If corporations are people so much try taking one to court for littering or disturbing the peace or physical/mental abuse or murder for that matter.

Take it up with the Supreme Court.

You agree with that ruling and I don't. What's your point? That you agree with the Supreme Court 100% of the time? The Supreme Court, in its entire history, has never made a ruling you disagree with?

You're absolutely right. Abortions are not protected by the constitution. Yes, the court made a ruling, but I disagree.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Throwing half of the country out of being able to get education = loser
Killing storm warnings from nws, noaa, nhc, etc.
Killing science grants
Killing nsf
Killing federal infrastructure funding

Sounds like many losers...

Some things within society shouldn't be about profit. We need a strong private sector, slicing our throats isn't the way to go.