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Oh... by the way...
Welcome to Reality...
The consequences that the idiots of Hamas have brought down upon their own heads...
Hamas are scum.
I believe that the Jews and the Muslims of Old Palestine fought a civil war in 1948-1949, and that the Jews won.
For 'jew, Yeppers.The one that you already seem to have in-mind, below, of course. Why? Is there another?
Is that what happened?
Do you have credible, objective, third-party information to share with the class, to indicate that the Egyptian ceasefire proposal was initiated and formulated by Israel?
Didn't the Egyptian proposal simply call for a cessation of hostilities, a relaxing of some restrictions to allow more goods to pass through checkpoints, and, basically, a return to the 2012 ceasefire state?
Reports DO indicate that the Egyptians talked to the Israelis before floating the proposal and that they did not talk to Hamas, due to their disavowing of Hamas terrorism after deposing Morsi, I'll grant you that much, in all fairness, however...
The ceasefire proposal was sooooo bloody simple and uncomplicated that it seems likely that the Egyptians kept it as simple as possible and that the content was largely Egyptian in origin and that the Israelis really didn't have to tweak it... that they merely indicated that such simple terms would be acceptable to them in the interim.
Is it not more likely that Hamas rejected the ceasefire because it must now show its constituency that making Gaza a target again for 2000+ Israeli sorties against it was worth the price, and that the only way to make it worthwhile (while making Hamas look good [enough] in the eyes of its people) is to complicate a ceasefire to make it look more like a peace treaty?
A ceasefire is just that... a ceasefire... an interim cessation of hostilities... not a peace treaty... a temporary thing designed to hold until something more permanent is negotiated and put into place afterwards... regardless of whether the fools of Hamas try (and fail) to make a ceasefire into a peace treaty.
"The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity."
Their choices have consequences.
Here's hoping that Hamas enjoy the full-scale war and deaths of so many of their own, that their stupidity and intransigence have brought down upon their heads.
It's a pity that the people of Gaza have to suffer alongside them, but, then again, I'll bet that those same people are having Buyer's Remorse right about now, for having voted Hamas into power all those months ago. The best thing for them to do right about now is to stage an internal coup, remove Hamas from power by force, and make nice with Fatah.
No problem. Wake me up when the scary Palestinians get some big guns themselves....Stick to pictures of scary Jews with big guns
Jealous?
I bet you'd 'soil' yourself with orgasmic joy if the Palestinians got their hands on F-16s and M1A1's.
But it's never gonna happen?
Why?
Because they're mad-dogs, and nobody trusts them with the more dangerous flavors of toys.
Sorry. You're stuck forever at the kiddie table, in a weapons context.
Bummer, wot?
By Jove, I think you've got it !!!
There is no genocide going on here, otherwise, both Gaza and the West Bank would have been cleared of Muslim-Arab Palestinians, decades ago.
You had better hope with all your heart that that does not happen, silly person.
Don't try being 'clever', Georgie, it's not your strong suit.For 'jew, Yeppers.The one that you already seem to have in-mind, below, of course. Why? Is there another?
Is that what happened?
Do you have credible, objective, third-party information to share with the class, to indicate that the Egyptian ceasefire proposal was initiated and formulated by Israel?
Didn't the Egyptian proposal simply call for a cessation of hostilities, a relaxing of some restrictions to allow more goods to pass through checkpoints, and, basically, a return to the 2012 ceasefire state?
Reports DO indicate that the Egyptians talked to the Israelis before floating the proposal and that they did not talk to Hamas, due to their disavowing of Hamas terrorism after deposing Morsi, I'll grant you that much, in all fairness, however...
The ceasefire proposal was sooooo bloody simple and uncomplicated that it seems likely that the Egyptians kept it as simple as possible and that the content was largely Egyptian in origin and that the Israelis really didn't have to tweak it... that they merely indicated that such simple terms would be acceptable to them in the interim.
Is it not more likely that Hamas rejected the ceasefire because it must now show its constituency that making Gaza a target again for 2000+ Israeli sorties against it was worth the price, and that the only way to make it worthwhile (while making Hamas look good [enough] in the eyes of its people) is to complicate a ceasefire to make it look more like a peace treaty?
A ceasefire is just that... a ceasefire... an interim cessation of hostilities... not a peace treaty... a temporary thing designed to hold until something more permanent is negotiated and put into place afterwards... regardless of whether the fools of Hamas try (and fail) to make a ceasefire into a peace treaty.
"The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity."
Their choices have consequences.
Here's hoping that Hamas enjoy the full-scale war and deaths of so many of their own, that their stupidity and intransigence have brought down upon their heads.
It's a pity that the people of Gaza have to suffer alongside them, but, then again, I'll bet that those same people are having Buyer's Remorse right about now, for having voted Hamas into power all those months ago. The best thing for them to do right about now is to stage an internal coup, remove Hamas from power by force, and make nice with Fatah.
No problem. Wake me up when the scary Palestinians get some big guns themselves....Stick to pictures of scary Jews with big guns
Jealous?
I bet you'd 'soil' yourself with orgasmic joy if the Palestinians got their hands on F-16s and M1A1's.
But it's never gonna happen?
Why?
Because they're mad-dogs, and nobody trusts them with the more dangerous flavors of toys.
Sorry. You're stuck forever at the kiddie table, in a weapons context.
Bummer, wot?
A 'ceasefire' is not a 'peace treaty', and you (and Hamas) are trying to make a 'ceasefire' serve the same purpose as a negotiated peace treaty. How's that working out for you so for?
So far, we only have your word for it, Georgie, that the Egyptians took dictation from Bibi.
As long as the IDF keeps turning-in good Hamas body-count numbers, I suspect.
Nope. I feel as bad as the next guy, that several kids died on a beach due to Israeli Navy gunfire from offshore. But that's the trouble with War... people get killed... perhaps next time, Hamas will consider that more carefully, before they pick another fight they can't possibly win. Then again, based upon past performance, that seems highly unlikely.
Awwwwww... I don't think you like my support for Israel... my, my, my... tsk, tsk, tsk... golly-gosh gee-whiz and glorioski, Emmy Lou... what to do?
Except it's not a war between Gaza and Israel; it's a belligerent occupation where one side controls the borders, airspace, and coastal waters of the other. Jews had their last war with Hezbollah, remember how that turned out? Take that one up with the ICC if your Jewish masters allow it, Sweetie.Don't try being 'clever', Georgie, it's not your strong suit.For 'jew, Yeppers.The one that you already seem to have in-mind, below, of course. Why? Is there another?
Is that what happened?
Do you have credible, objective, third-party information to share with the class, to indicate that the Egyptian ceasefire proposal was initiated and formulated by Israel?
Didn't the Egyptian proposal simply call for a cessation of hostilities, a relaxing of some restrictions to allow more goods to pass through checkpoints, and, basically, a return to the 2012 ceasefire state?
Reports DO indicate that the Egyptians talked to the Israelis before floating the proposal and that they did not talk to Hamas, due to their disavowing of Hamas terrorism after deposing Morsi, I'll grant you that much, in all fairness, however...
The ceasefire proposal was sooooo bloody simple and uncomplicated that it seems likely that the Egyptians kept it as simple as possible and that the content was largely Egyptian in origin and that the Israelis really didn't have to tweak it... that they merely indicated that such simple terms would be acceptable to them in the interim.
Is it not more likely that Hamas rejected the ceasefire because it must now show its constituency that making Gaza a target again for 2000+ Israeli sorties against it was worth the price, and that the only way to make it worthwhile (while making Hamas look good [enough] in the eyes of its people) is to complicate a ceasefire to make it look more like a peace treaty?
A ceasefire is just that... a ceasefire... an interim cessation of hostilities... not a peace treaty... a temporary thing designed to hold until something more permanent is negotiated and put into place afterwards... regardless of whether the fools of Hamas try (and fail) to make a ceasefire into a peace treaty.
"The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity."
Their choices have consequences.
Here's hoping that Hamas enjoy the full-scale war and deaths of so many of their own, that their stupidity and intransigence have brought down upon their heads.
It's a pity that the people of Gaza have to suffer alongside them, but, then again, I'll bet that those same people are having Buyer's Remorse right about now, for having voted Hamas into power all those months ago. The best thing for them to do right about now is to stage an internal coup, remove Hamas from power by force, and make nice with Fatah.
No problem. Wake me up when the scary Palestinians get some big guns themselves.
Jealous?
I bet you'd 'soil' yourself with orgasmic joy if the Palestinians got their hands on F-16s and M1A1's.
But it's never gonna happen?
Why?
Because they're mad-dogs, and nobody trusts them with the more dangerous flavors of toys.
Sorry. You're stuck forever at the kiddie table, in a weapons context.
Bummer, wot?
A 'ceasefire' is not a 'peace treaty', and you (and Hamas) are trying to make a 'ceasefire' serve the same purpose as a negotiated peace treaty. How's that working out for you so for?
So far, we only have your word for it, Georgie, that the Egyptians took dictation from Bibi.
And your word is far from 'good enough' to substantiate that wild and hairy-assed claim.
You were asked for credible, objective, neutral, third-party information or evidence, that would cause a reasonable person to deduce that the Egyptians took dictation from the Israelis, in formulating the Egyptian ceasefire proposal.
So far, you have responded with nothing more than further unsubstantiated bombast.
In the absence of any reasonable evidence to the contrary...
Your claim that the Egyptians took dictation from Israel, in order to formulate the ceasefire proposal, is rejected and set aside, with prejudice.
Nice try.
Not.
As long as the IDF keeps turning-in good Hamas body-count numbers, I suspect.
Nope. I feel as bad as the next guy, that several kids died on a beach due to Israeli Navy gunfire from offshore. But that's the trouble with War... people get killed... perhaps next time, Hamas will consider that more carefully, before they pick another fight they can't possibly win. Then again, based upon past performance, that seems highly unlikely.
Awwwwww... I don't think you like my support for Israel... my, my, my... tsk, tsk, tsk... golly-gosh gee-whiz and glorioski, Emmy Lou... what to do?
Oh, and, by the way, when you've got solid evidence that those poor kids died as part of an intentional Israeli Navy firing upon children, thereby potentially constituting an actual and bona fide War Crime... wake-up the International Criminal Court and file your charges, and let's see if those stick.
Please go back and read your own article.
It is now.
That's called a blockade.
Yeppers... the Israelis made the mistake of overlooking the impact of new Iranian weapons and a new Iranian training regimen, and went into Lebanon thinking that it was going to be a cake-walk, and they got their noses busted, on several occasions, during the course of that mini-war, and eventually pulled back without accomplishing all of their goals. But, in truth, Hezbollah's new level of competency puts them on a par with second- or third-rate reserve units of the armies of neighboring Arab countries, and we know how well the Israelis do against even first-rate units of that kind, when they're prepared and braced for such an engagement. Hezbollah has lost the element of surprise. It is a card that can only be played once, and that's now been done. Temporary advantage lost.
I have no idea what you mean by that.
What a great line...
