Climate Change Solution that Everyone Will Hate

[flacaltenn]

So why are you so fucking sure that you would do nothing? Really? Serious effects can occur at 2 degrees C warming.

You act like action would be this painful thong. That you might have to sacrifice something.

U mean like placating a raving moron and passing her "Green New Deal"??? YEAH -- that's a MONSTROUS fucking sacrifice and a violation of every ounce of logic and reason and sanity that I have...

I did not SAY "do nothing".. I told you disasters are all around us.. Like the threat of INCREASED volcanic activity under the Antarctic in the wrong places... Or a giant fucking asteroid or cloud of them..

What I said is that "prepardness is a good thing".. Panicking 8 yr olds that they're gonna die before they can buy a beer is not.....

 

[justoffal]

Since you're going for Crazy Eddie solutions why stop there?

Ration food, water, sanitation, etc, etc, etc,...

*****SMILE*****

Don't forget to weigh the amount of shit per capita. Each adult is only allowed 1.7 lbs a day of poo pebbles! After that hold it in mofo!

Jo

 

[justoffal]

What if the effects are major? Then what?

Effects are gonna depend on a RELIABLE forecast for 2100.. If one cannot be made that doesn't crash and burn just a couple decades later -- it's speculation --- not science.. ALL scientists agree on the basic power of CO2.. Without the super hyped "catastrophic" parts of GW theory, the number is about 1.1 DegC for every DOUBLING of CO2 in the atmos.. That's about what we've observed... And NOTE that formulation says that you need TWICE as CO2 to get the NEXT 1.1 DegC rise..

So we have not even DOUBLED since the beginnings of the Ind Age. We'll hit THAT in 2030 or 40. Another doubling would take TWICE AS emission.. And is not likely until CLOSE to 2100..

The numbers people are QUOTING to "play on your fears" would require a 600% increase in atmos CO2 (and methane) somewhere between here and 2100... NOT GONNA FUCKING HAPPEN...

Here's the irony of peeing your pants about a DegreeC of warming in a lifetime.. Those predictions of NYC and Miami DISSAPPEARING by 2100??? Relies on a complete meltdown of Antarctica and Greenland.. Mostly Antarctica... And the FUN PART is ---

It was only about 10 years ago, maybe less, that polar ice cap scientists VERIFIED that the part of West Antarctica that was losing coastal glacial ice the worst WAS SITTING ON A LARGE SERIES OF ACTIVE VOLCANIC RIFTS....

SO -- go SPEND a $Trill, fuck up everybody's standard of living, make AOC your climate social justice czar --

and find out a few years later that there are VOLCANIC surface eruptions NOW in Antarctica and NYC and Miami need to be evacuated in a manner of months..

Moral of the story is -- preparedness is a good thing.. Making policy off of hyperventilated and massively exaggerated scientific theories and misused stats only allows demagogues in the USA and UN to seize the economy, FRIGHTEN YOUR CHILDREN to DEATH, and have their way with it and fund totally UNRELATED socialist fantasies...

Effects have nothing to do with forecasts.

Effects will depend on what actions we take to curb emissions.

So.....put a cork in your ass.

Jo

 

[RealDave]

So where did scientists agree with your 1.1?

I told you that's the BASIC warming power of CO2 from raw Physics, Chem, and Atmos Science.. Does not INCLUDE the "postulations" of "all positive feedbacks", massive melts of frozen carbon, or "trigger temps"...

The models incorporate these other than mainstream theories to one degree or another..

STILL -- the difference between 1.5DegC and 4.5DegC by 2100 range from snooze to alarm... But you KNOW the media only really publishes shit that ASSUMES the worst case number...

ACTUALLY -- with the dates I gave for the next doubling of CO2 --- the basic "envelope physics" calculations are NOT that far off from a couple degrees... Just NOWHERE NEAR the unlikely HIGHEST numbers...

You go to the doc & he tells you that unless you lower your bad cholesterol that the chances of you living for another 20 years is 50%.

So dumbfuck you, says 50% that I will still be alive so I am not doing anything.

Me, I might die & I lower mine.

That is the argument you are making.

Scientists, real ones not like you, rainman, or SSDD, tell you people alive on the year 2100 could have more difficult living conditions include food sghotages, flooding, cicil wars
and yopu choose to ignore it.

Fuck you. Fuck all you denier assholes.

I will fight for action & I hope when it is taken that I will save your grandchildren from your ignorance.

 

[RealDave]

What if the effects are major? Then what?

Effects are gonna depend on a RELIABLE forecast for 2100.. If one cannot be made that doesn't crash and burn just a couple decades later -- it's speculation --- not science.. ALL scientists agree on the basic power of CO2.. Without the super hyped "catastrophic" parts of GW theory, the number is about 1.1 DegC for every DOUBLING of CO2 in the atmos.. That's about what we've observed... And NOTE that formulation says that you need TWICE as CO2 to get the NEXT 1.1 DegC rise..

So we have not even DOUBLED since the beginnings of the Ind Age. We'll hit THAT in 2030 or 40. Another doubling would take TWICE AS emission.. And is not likely until CLOSE to 2100..

The numbers people are QUOTING to "play on your fears" would require a 600% increase in atmos CO2 (and methane) somewhere between here and 2100... NOT GONNA FUCKING HAPPEN...

Here's the irony of peeing your pants about a DegreeC of warming in a lifetime.. Those predictions of NYC and Miami DISSAPPEARING by 2100??? Relies on a complete meltdown of Antarctica and Greenland.. Mostly Antarctica... And the FUN PART is ---

It was only about 10 years ago, maybe less, that polar ice cap scientists VERIFIED that the part of West Antarctica that was losing coastal glacial ice the worst WAS SITTING ON A LARGE SERIES OF ACTIVE VOLCANIC RIFTS....

SO -- go SPEND a $Trill, fuck up everybody's standard of living, make AOC your climate social justice czar --

and find out a few years later that there are VOLCANIC surface eruptions NOW in Antarctica and NYC and Miami need to be evacuated in a manner of months..

Moral of the story is -- preparedness is a good thing.. Making policy off of hyperventilated and massively exaggerated scientific theories and misused stats only allows demagogues in the USA and UN to seize the economy, FRIGHTEN YOUR CHILDREN to DEATH, and have their way with it and fund totally UNRELATED socialist fantasies...

Effects have nothing to do with forecasts.

Effects will depend on what actions we take to curb emissions.

So.....put a cork in your ass.

Jo

What an intelligent response.

 

[Manonthestreet]

So where did scientists agree with your 1.1?

I told you that's the BASIC warming power of CO2 from raw Physics, Chem, and Atmos Science.. Does not INCLUDE the "postulations" of "all positive feedbacks", massive melts of frozen carbon, or "trigger temps"...

The models incorporate these other than mainstream theories to one degree or another..

STILL -- the difference between 1.5DegC and 4.5DegC by 2100 range from snooze to alarm... But you KNOW the media only really publishes shit that ASSUMES the worst case number...

ACTUALLY -- with the dates I gave for the next doubling of CO2 --- the basic "envelope physics" calculations are NOT that far off from a couple degrees... Just NOWHERE NEAR the unlikely HIGHEST numbers...

You go to the doc & he tells you that unless you lower your bad cholesterol that the chances of you living for another 20 years is 50%.

So dumbfuck you, says 50% that I will still be alive so I am not doing anything.

Me, I might die & I lower mine.

That is the argument you are making.

Scientists, real ones not like you, rainman, or SSDD, tell you people alive on the year 2100 could have more difficult living conditions include food sghotages, flooding, cicil wars
and yopu choose to ignore it.

Fuck you. Fuck all you denier assholes.

I will fight for action & I hope when it is taken that I will save your grandchildren from your ignorance.

this prediction has been made over and over,,,,,,,,,just another fake tipping point bs

 

[flacaltenn]

You go to the doc & he tells you that unless you lower your bad cholesterol that the chances of you living for another 20 years is 50%.

So dumbfuck you, says 50% that I will still be alive so I am not doing anything.

Me, I might die & I lower mine.

That is the argument you are making.

And that is the FUNDAMENTAL core difference between leftists and libertarians.. ALL of socialism, progressivism and power hungry leftist doctrine is creating a ZERO RISK life and society.. There's no such thing.. I ain't having my prostate extracted at 43 because I have a 40% chance of getting prostate cancer..

You want no job, money, legal, health risks at all... It's that we're wired differently apparently...

 

[flacaltenn]

Scientists, real ones not like you, rainman, or SSDD, tell you people alive on the year 2100 could have more difficult living conditions include food sghotages, flooding, cicil wars
and yopu choose to ignore it.

Fuck you. Fuck all you denier assholes.

Oh PLEEZE... THere's 50 pages of ME in this forum going at the people you mentioned for denying ESTABLISHED textbook science.. I've LIVED science.. ANd it's too valuable to demagogue over or politicize...

No apologies needed... Everyone understands where I stand on all of this except you apparently... Go on and vent... I feel your pain...

 

[Silver Cat]

Plenty of data. Quit ignoring it

Really? Ok. The most important greenhouse gas is H_2O (water vapour). Show me any scientific article about antropogenic change of its emission, pls. Forestation/deforestation, melioration, different agricultural techniques, etc...
The Dems don't want to control the Earth's temperature (even they understand, that it is impossible), they don't want to prepare the USA to a climat change (warming or cooling, aridisation or swamping) because they hate the USA, they don't want even control the emission of greenhouse gases (first of all - water vapour). They want to control usage of the fossil fuel, in other words - they want to control the real economic.

 

[Silver Cat]

So where did scientists agree with your 1.1?

I told you that's the BASIC warming power of CO2 from raw Physics, Chem, and Atmos Science.. Does not INCLUDE the "postulations" of "all positive feedbacks", massive melts of frozen carbon, or "trigger temps"...

The models incorporate these other than mainstream theories to one degree or another..

STILL -- the difference between 1.5DegC and 4.5DegC by 2100 range from snooze to alarm... But you KNOW the media only really publishes shit that ASSUMES the worst case number...

ACTUALLY -- with the dates I gave for the next doubling of CO2 --- the basic "envelope physics" calculations are NOT that far off from a couple degrees... Just NOWHERE NEAR the unlikely HIGHEST numbers...

You go to the doc & he tells you that unless you lower your bad cholesterol that the chances of you living for another 20 years is 50%.

So dumbfuck you, says 50% that I will still be alive so I am not doing anything.

Me, I might die & I lower mine.

That is the argument you are making.

Scientists, real ones not like you, rainman, or SSDD, tell you people alive on the year 2100 could have more difficult living conditions include food sghotages, flooding, cicil wars
and yopu choose to ignore it.

Fuck you. Fuck all you denier assholes.

I will fight for action & I hope when it is taken that I will save your grandchildren from your ignorance.

Sure, they will have all of this. May be, they will have even the "nuclear winter" and the new Ice Age. It should not be a problem. The main question is one - "Are we ready to any unpredictable and sudden change of environment? If "no" - what should we do to be ready?"

 

[ChrisL]

I think there are REAL environmental concerns we should be focused on. Cleaning up our oceans and stopping deforestation are important things to focus on that we can actually do something about.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So where did scientists agree with your 1.1?

I told you that's the BASIC warming power of CO2 from raw Physics, Chem, and Atmos Science.. Does not INCLUDE the "postulations" of "all positive feedbacks", massive melts of frozen carbon, or "trigger temps"...

The models incorporate these other than mainstream theories to one degree or another..

STILL -- the difference between 1.5DegC and 4.5DegC by 2100 range from snooze to alarm... But you KNOW the media only really publishes shit that ASSUMES the worst case number...

ACTUALLY -- with the dates I gave for the next doubling of CO2 --- the basic "envelope physics" calculations are NOT that far off from a couple degrees... Just NOWHERE NEAR the unlikely HIGHEST numbers...

You go to the doc & he tells you that unless you lower your bad cholesterol that the chances of you living for another 20 years is 50%.

So dumbfuck you, says 50% that I will still be alive so I am not doing anything.

Me, I might die & I lower mine.

That is the argument you are making.

Scientists, real ones not like you, rainman, or SSDD, tell you people alive on the year 2100 could have more difficult living conditions include food sghotages, flooding, cicil wars
and yopu choose to ignore it.

Fuck you. Fuck all you denier assholes.

I will fight for action & I hope when it is taken that I will save your grandchildren from your ignorance.

I will fight for action

Me too!!

How many new nuclear power plants should we build?

 

[ChrisL]

It's sad to see a bunch of woods just gone because some developer has come in and built 100 homes there. That is depressing. The animals are running out of places to go.

 

[westwall]

During World War II, when the U.S. faced a mortal threat to its very existence, the government imposed rationing -- in particular, gasoline rationing. I believe that the time has come again for gasoline rationing.

Gasoline rationing would accomplish a number of things:

1. It would emphasize the seriousness of the situation.
2. It would reduce the amount of greenhouse gases being released into the atmosphere.
3. It would encourage the use of public transit.
4. It would encourage the development of alternative forms of transportation and power sources.
5. It would make almost everyone a participant in the fight against climate change.

I hope that you will support my proposal.

Nope. With no empirical data to support the claim of AGW there is zero reason to enact regs like these.

Plenty of data. Quit ignoring it

Zero data. Opinion and computer models are not data.

 

[The Purge]

 

[beautress]

During World War II, when the U.S. faced a mortal threat to its very existence, the government imposed rationing -- in particular, gasoline rationing. I believe that the time has come again for gasoline rationing.

Gasoline rationing would accomplish a number of things:

1. It would emphasize the seriousness of the situation.
2. It would reduce the amount of greenhouse gases being released into the atmosphere.
3. It would encourage the use of public transit.
4. It would encourage the development of alternative forms of transportation and power sources.
5. It would make almost everyone a participant in the fight against climate change.

I hope that you will support my proposal.

Nope. With no empirical data to support the claim of AGW there is zero reason to enact regs like these.

For the last few years, we've had a lot of ups and downs at the gasoline pump. It got so expensive at one point, that I finally decided to quit getting out of the house 3 times a day (It's 6 miles to the nearest town) and made myself a promise to buy gasoline only on Mondays, and only when I need it.

Now I'm staying at home a lot and getting a lot of charity quilts made. It was a little hard getting used to isolation at first, but I'm getting used to it, And this week, I still have half a tank, and the last fill was over a week ago. And I planted the first pack of seeds yesterday that I've planted in years. They were bluebonnets, and 500 seeds doesn't go ver far in the 2-acre field I planted them in. I got one row that curved up from the gate to the NW corner and from there to the SE corner of the north west field. To do 14 acres solid, no telling how many packages of seed I'd have to buy, so hopefully, some of them will germinate and flower, and I can collect the seed in April or May, whenever the plants start losing their blue color. Never harvested bluebonnet seeds before, if any come up, that is. Maybe it will be sunny tomorrow.

 

[ChrisL]

I feel sorry for this girl.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Climategate was totally debunked.

How stupid are you.

A bunch of uneducated people assigning their meaning to e-mails between climatologists.

Climategate was totally debunked.

The emails about hiding the decline, Mike's Nature Trick and discussions about preventing skeptics from publishing were debunked?

Tell me more!!!

The left has one tool in their bag, lying. They think the answer to every problem is just to lie. Realdunce told one of the dumbest lies I've ever encountered. The boi is an idiot.

Trumpettes survive on lies.

Tell us again how climategate was "debunked?"

Been there & done that. You can just continue to be the dumnbass you have always been.

You mean you got your ass kicked for lying.

Hey, you Stalinists only have one tool in your belt, lying.

Here you are busted for lying, and what do you do? Lie even more.

Sad.

 

[Bruce Daniels]

The effect of ONE person on the environment is tiny. The effect of seven and a half BILLION people is somewhat larger. Is that difficult to understand? And the rest of your argument doesn't even make much sense.

Complaining about too many people in the world while you're still in it is more than a little hypocritical.

Are you volunteering to take one for the team?

Ha ha. No, but I chose not to have any children because there were more than enough people on Earth already.

 

[Bruce Daniels]

I feel sorry for this girl.

Right, make fun of someone who's trying to change the way things are. I'm pretty sure that she feels sorry for you, too, because you're just as much a victim of climate change as everybody else, but you probably can't even see it.