Civilizational collapse: Less than 15% of 30-year-olds are married homeowners

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Religious views have changed, living together not married is not frowned upon, average wedding cost £30,000 which can go along way to a house deposit etc..

That is the real crux of the problem. Discouraging and devaluing marriage excuses irresponsibility in child raising. That is the real unfortunate result of the point in the thread.

 

[Captain Caveman]

That is the real crux of the problem. Discouraging and devaluing marriage excuses irresponsibility in child raising. That is the real unfortunate result of the point in the thread.

The 70's were my school years. We were brought up to get married and have kids, there was a stigma if anyone was born out of wedlock. I remember kids interrogating other kids to make sure they weren't bastards. Today, that would seem harsh, but that's how we were brought up.

I have two boys and there's two things I've asked them. Don't turn gay and get married before having kids. They're in their 20's with girlfriends so that's one part of the deal ticked off. The eldest is on the property ladder, the youngest is in the progress of buying when the property comes along.

 

[hondo 50]

Wage slavery is still slavery. Just because there are no physical chains put on someone doesn't mean they aren't there.

If you take a poor person and offer them money for prostituting themselves....chances are because they are poor they will agree. No different from a slave master forcing themselves upon a female slave....

Just because a limited amount of freedom exists for what they spend their money on versus getting what the masters house cooks for them doesn't change the situation. They either show up to work or starve.

Then I guess we're all slave. What a defeatist mentality.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

The sad part is they own nothing but expect others to give them their dues

That’s boomers.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I've made zero bones about who has been responsible for the situation.

Well let's abandon the "who" and talk about the "why"

The "Why" is why wages have not kept pace with cost.

Why do you think they haven't? Could, maybe, busting the unions up and a pathetic minimum wage have anything to do with that? Healthcare costs, a/k/a the number one cause of bankruptcy in the US: possibly related? Record household debt.... could this maybe have anything to do with wages not pacing costs? Or, instead, everything to do with that?


Everything, of course. The economy is a thin veil, right now. And no, I'm not laying that at the feet of Trump. The entire machine is weighted to favor the "haves" (as capitalism is, like rich man's poker) and thus to favor capital over labor. For decades, we have had stagnant wages and rising prices. And with tariffs, we face the real risk of Stagflation. So much of the consumer spending in our economy is "deferred", in the form of interest-bearing loans and credit cards. And that is only trending in one direction.

It appears we have leaned too far into prioritizing capital over labor. We have done this through fiscal and monetary policy and via tax code.