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Perhaps some would advocate removal of the female labia, which relate to the foreskin in males.
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Perhaps some would advocate removal of the female labia, which relate to the foreskin in males.
Were you for it?Perhaps some would advocate removal of the female labia, which relate to the foreskin in males.
Try to keep up, that's been covered.
Not many people in Germany, or anywhere in Europe, are circumcised who aren't Jewish or Muslim ... it's extremely rare.
I am not religious, yet if I ever have a son, he will be circumcised as soon as I can get it done. He is my son and I want what is best for him, like any parent. He will not suffer with his foreskin removed, he will still be able to engage in sexual activity. Circumcision is harmless as long as it is done properly.
Because its a decision that has life long negative implications. Whats so hard for you to understand?
Would you support parents amputating every childs left hand because their religion said so? Or because they thought it was cleanlier?
Why does something which was performed in the childs first few weeks of life someho come back to affect them many years later?
Perhaps if the anti circumcision crowd didn't ram their beliefs down the throats of those who have been circumcised, making them believe they are somehow abnormal, there wouldn't be any 'life long negative implications'.
Those against circumcision somehow think that their sex life is not as good as it could be. Yet they have no idea what sex would be like if they did have a foreskin. They don't know if it would be better, or worse, or even painful due to the foreskin being too tight. They simply assume that because the foreskin has many nerve endings, that sex would be better.
These men can still achieve orgasm, they can still enjoy sex, and they can still father children, yet they complain.
It makes me wonder whether these men don't blame circumcision for their shitty sex lives.
Yes. If you had read all the many links I provided you would know that.
I read your links and I have judged them properly.
Are you a physician?
Were you for it?Perhaps some would advocate removal of the female labia, which relate to the foreskin in males.
Try to keep up, that's been covered.
I read your links and I have judged them properly.
Are you a physician?
No. And neither are you. So we look at what the physicians say.
Were you for it?Try to keep up, that's been covered.
No he just ignorantly refuses to equate female circumcision with male circumcision.
You should read all the links I posted before you remove 70% of your sons feeling in his genitals.
Perhaps you wouldn't think it was harmless of you were discussing cutting off part of your daughters genitals for no medically valid reason whatsoever.
Were you for it?
No he just ignorantly refuses to equate female circumcision with male circumcision.
Ignorance, gross and irresponsible ignorance, is trying to equate the two. You've allowed your agenda to take you completely over the edge.
You know what? You're right.
As the clitorus has 2000 nerves and the uncut foreskin has 20,000, male circumcision is therefore 10x worse...right?
You should read all the links I posted before you remove 70% of your sons feeling in his genitals.
Perhaps you wouldn't think it was harmless of you were discussing cutting off part of your daughters genitals for no medically valid reason whatsoever.
I have read countless links already and nothing will change my mind on the subject. And to compare female circumcision to male circumcision is like comparing apples and oranges.
Female circumcision is not done for the same reasons.
Male circumcision is not performed to prevent the male from enjoying sexual relations. However, it is done for this reason in females. Removing the clitoris prevents the female from feeling any enjoyment from intercourse at all.
Do the majority of circumcised men believe they have been mutilated, and want their foreskins back? Or are they happy and content with their bodies the way they are?
Some circumcised men seem to think that because they are angry about their circumcisions, that every man should also feel that anger, and most men don't.
Male circumcision reduces the risk of UTI's, and also sexually transmitted infections. It is also cleaner, and therefore more hygienic. Uncircumcised men may end up needing to be circumcised later in life because the foreskin becomes so tight, it causes pain and bleeding during sex. Circumcision early in life can prevent this.
As a parent, I believe you have the right -within reason - to raise your child how you see fit, and if a parent wishes to have their son circumcised, then that decision is none of your business.
If he has to become one here, then I bet he will just so's he can lie and say that he knows better about this than anyone else here (or) even more scary over anyone that resides anywhere else in the world for that matter.Yes. If you had read all the many links I provided you would know that.
I read your links and I have judged them properly.
Are you a physician?
Male circumcision is not performed to prevent the male from enjoying sexual relations. However, it is done for this reason in females. Removing the clitoris prevents the female from feeling any enjoyment from intercourse at all.
Do the majority of circumcised men believe they have been mutilated, and want their foreskins back? Or are they happy and content with their bodies the way they are?
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As a parent, I believe you have the right -within reason - to raise your child how you see fit, and if a parent wishes to have their son circumcised, then that decision is none of your business.
Yeah, I can see how this would upset those for whom circumcision is a religious obligation.
I can also understand why some of us think that mutilation of a baby boy's penis makes about as much sense (read none) as mutilation of a baby girls cliterus.
Not much room for compromise in this clash of cultural values.
it shouldn't be... one can't compare female circumcision with male circumcision. and i always wonder about why anyone would make that comparison other than the use of the word circumcision. the effects on the individual are not comparable.
also, historically, one of the first ways in which tyrannical and anti-semetic regimes isolated and made jews alien was to outlaw circumcision. they would then use the fact that someone was circumcised as a way of identifying and outing jews who were singled out for persecution.
this is a very dangerous road to walk... if you don't want to circumcise your child, don't...
in my world, it's normal and not "abuse"... it's a cause for celebration... and it's an identifying ritual.
thank G-d for the first amendment.
If he has to become one here, then I bet he will just so's he can lie and say that he knows better about this than anyone else here (or) even more scary over anyone that resides anywhere else in the world for that matter.I read your links and I have judged them properly.
Are you a physician?
His spoiled rotten attitude and liberal arrogance on such a subject, reeks of "no matter what is proven as the opposite of his OPINION in which he holds on the subject", he thinks he is smarter than anyone here in that he continually challenges their opinions, even though based on his weak theories at best, he just keeps going and going. This exposes his fallacy by doing so in the ways in which he is doing it, and yet he loves this place because it allows him to be what he thinks is so devilishly extremely smart in this way (he thinks), and so the debate turned argument in which it has basically become with him on this subject, is no longer profitable in any form it takes and/or in respect of the subject matter posted for anyone here, but rather it has now become just ignorant argumentive words spewing out of his mouth upon his return of, in which waste peoples time and their honest brain energy, and that is what all of this has become now with him, especially when I read more of his material as is written upon this thread when he responds. Can anyone like this actually become humble and concede a valid point made by someone when it is made (or) is this always a game of saying evil is good now, and that good is now evil, and this no matter what in accordance with these types of personalities where as it now has to be this way in life ?
Protecting the rights of the individual to choose for themselves instead of letting others choose for them is a Libetarian view.
Protecting the rights of the individual to choose for themselves instead of letting others choose for them is a Libetarian view.
This is the problem with your type that latches so desperately to an 'identity' that you abandon the will or ability to think.
You make decisions for your children, don't you?