Church Vs. State

[PoliticalChic]

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Or…Traditional vs Secular…..or conservative vs Liberal…or American vs Bolshevik

If you went to government school, you were steeped in the latter of each phrase. You were deprived of real history of this nation, and of Western Civilization. But, like Mighty Mouse, here I am to save the day.




1.The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



2. The fact is that as part of Western Civilization, we owe our origins to a particular combination of these doctrines: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively.
[Ben Shapiro]

To claim that America was not created with these ideas is a terrible lie, a scheme to cheat generations of Americans who believe what government school tells them.
Nor is it an accident….it is the plan.

“Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God.” G.K. Chesterton





3. Nor is it a coincidence that the acolyte of Joseph Stalin, that would be Franklin Roosevelt, as his first Supreme Court nominee, chose KKKer Hugo Black, who wrote into jurisprudence, the infamous ‘separation of church and state’ lie. Perhaps Black never saw the motto on the back of the Great Seal…

annuit coeptis Latin. He (God) has favored our undertakings.
It is the motto, adapted from the Aeneid (IX.625), that appears
on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States.





4. But, why subvert the faith on which this country was built?
Answer: To replace our inheritance, Genesis 1:26, individualism, with the collective.

"The abandonment of the Christian tradition that created the West's most cherished ideal [with] a radical secularism evident in Europe's indifference to God and church- created a vacuum of belief into which many pseudo-religions have poured: scientism, fascism, communism, environmentalism, multiculturalism, sheer hedonism [and Islam] - all have attempted and failed....to provide Europeans with an alternative to Christianity that can show them what is worth living and dying for."
From "Decline and Fall: Europe's Slow-Motion Suicide," by Bruce Thornton


“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro

 

[anynameyouwish]

And now for a perfect topic for this Sunday......a word from our Sponsor.


Or…Traditional vs Secular…..or conservative vs Liberal…or American vs Bolshevik

If you went to government school, you were steeped in the latter of each phrase. You were deprived of real history of this nation, and of Western Civilization. But, like Mighty Mouse, here I am to save the day.




1.The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



2. The fact is that as part of Western Civilization, we owe our origins to a particular combination of these doctrines: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively.
[Ben Shapiro]

To claim that America was not created with these ideas is a terrible lie, a scheme to cheat generations of Americans who believe what government school tells them.
Nor is it an accident….it is the plan.

“Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God.” G.K. Chesterton





3. Nor is it a coincidence that the acolyte of Joseph Stalin, that would be Franklin Roosevelt, as his first Supreme Court nominee, chose KKKer Hugo Black, who wrote into jurisprudence, the infamous ‘separation of church and state’ lie. Perhaps Black never saw the motto on the back of the Great Seal…

annuit coeptis Latin. He (God) has favored our undertakings.
It is the motto, adapted from the Aeneid (IX.625), that appears
on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States.





4. But, why subvert the faith on which this country was built?
Answer: To replace our inheritance, Genesis 1:26, individualism, with the collective.

"The abandonment of the Christian tradition that created the West's most cherished ideal [with] a radical secularism evident in Europe's indifference to God and church- created a vacuum of belief into which many pseudo-religions have poured: scientism, fascism, communism, environmentalism, multiculturalism, sheer hedonism [and Islam] - all have attempted and failed....to provide Europeans with an alternative to Christianity that can show them what is worth living and dying for."
From "Decline and Fall: Europe's Slow-Motion Suicide," by Bruce Thornton


“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro

"“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro"


gay ben shapiro would have been tormented, tortured and beaten (until he committed suicide) by CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS if liberals and progressives hadn't forced YOUR religion out of its prominent loft in public schools. And YOU would be here inciting your friends to violence, "gays are an abomination"

is THAT what you want?

conservative christians back in public schools teaching kids to hate gays?

 

[anynameyouwish]

And now for a perfect topic for this Sunday......a word from our Sponsor.


Or…Traditional vs Secular…..or conservative vs Liberal…or American vs Bolshevik

If you went to government school, you were steeped in the latter of each phrase. You were deprived of real history of this nation, and of Western Civilization. But, like Mighty Mouse, here I am to save the day.




1.The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



2. The fact is that as part of Western Civilization, we owe our origins to a particular combination of these doctrines: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively.
[Ben Shapiro]

To claim that America was not created with these ideas is a terrible lie, a scheme to cheat generations of Americans who believe what government school tells them.
Nor is it an accident….it is the plan.

“Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God.” G.K. Chesterton





3. Nor is it a coincidence that the acolyte of Joseph Stalin, that would be Franklin Roosevelt, as his first Supreme Court nominee, chose KKKer Hugo Black, who wrote into jurisprudence, the infamous ‘separation of church and state’ lie. Perhaps Black never saw the motto on the back of the Great Seal…

annuit coeptis Latin. He (God) has favored our undertakings.
It is the motto, adapted from the Aeneid (IX.625), that appears
on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States.





4. But, why subvert the faith on which this country was built?
Answer: To replace our inheritance, Genesis 1:26, individualism, with the collective.

"The abandonment of the Christian tradition that created the West's most cherished ideal [with] a radical secularism evident in Europe's indifference to God and church- created a vacuum of belief into which many pseudo-religions have poured: scientism, fascism, communism, environmentalism, multiculturalism, sheer hedonism [and Islam] - all have attempted and failed....to provide Europeans with an alternative to Christianity that can show them what is worth living and dying for."
From "Decline and Fall: Europe's Slow-Motion Suicide," by Bruce Thornton


“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro

What makes YOU think YOU have the right to brainwash MY KIDS with YOUR RELIGION?!?!?!?!?!


LEAVE OUR KIDS ALONE!

 

[PoliticalChic]

And now for a perfect topic for this Sunday......a word from our Sponsor.


Or…Traditional vs Secular…..or conservative vs Liberal…or American vs Bolshevik

If you went to government school, you were steeped in the latter of each phrase. You were deprived of real history of this nation, and of Western Civilization. But, like Mighty Mouse, here I am to save the day.




1.The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



2. The fact is that as part of Western Civilization, we owe our origins to a particular combination of these doctrines: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively.
[Ben Shapiro]

To claim that America was not created with these ideas is a terrible lie, a scheme to cheat generations of Americans who believe what government school tells them.
Nor is it an accident….it is the plan.

“Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God.” G.K. Chesterton





3. Nor is it a coincidence that the acolyte of Joseph Stalin, that would be Franklin Roosevelt, as his first Supreme Court nominee, chose KKKer Hugo Black, who wrote into jurisprudence, the infamous ‘separation of church and state’ lie. Perhaps Black never saw the motto on the back of the Great Seal…

annuit coeptis Latin. He (God) has favored our undertakings.
It is the motto, adapted from the Aeneid (IX.625), that appears
on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States.





4. But, why subvert the faith on which this country was built?
Answer: To replace our inheritance, Genesis 1:26, individualism, with the collective.

"The abandonment of the Christian tradition that created the West's most cherished ideal [with] a radical secularism evident in Europe's indifference to God and church- created a vacuum of belief into which many pseudo-religions have poured: scientism, fascism, communism, environmentalism, multiculturalism, sheer hedonism [and Islam] - all have attempted and failed....to provide Europeans with an alternative to Christianity that can show them what is worth living and dying for."
From "Decline and Fall: Europe's Slow-Motion Suicide," by Bruce Thornton


“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro

"“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro"


gay ben shapiro would have been tormented, tortured and beaten (until he committed suicide) by CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS if liberals and progressives hadn't forced YOUR religion out of its prominent loft in public schools. And YOU would be here inciting your friends to violence, "gays are an abomination"

is THAT what you want?

conservative christians back in public schools teaching kids to hate gays?

Can't any of you Leftists ever post without lying????

1. Document that the subject of your post is gay, or admit that you are simply lying scum.

2. Let's see any such "tormented, tortured and beaten" or admit that you simply swallow every lie government school programmed into you.

3. Instead of inadvertently admitting that everything in the OP is factual, you've penned the usual sort of " Is not.....I hate you" post that Liberals are infamous for.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And now for a perfect topic for this Sunday......a word from our Sponsor.


Or…Traditional vs Secular…..or conservative vs Liberal…or American vs Bolshevik

If you went to government school, you were steeped in the latter of each phrase. You were deprived of real history of this nation, and of Western Civilization. But, like Mighty Mouse, here I am to save the day.




1.The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



2. The fact is that as part of Western Civilization, we owe our origins to a particular combination of these doctrines: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively.
[Ben Shapiro]

To claim that America was not created with these ideas is a terrible lie, a scheme to cheat generations of Americans who believe what government school tells them.
Nor is it an accident….it is the plan.

“Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God.” G.K. Chesterton





3. Nor is it a coincidence that the acolyte of Joseph Stalin, that would be Franklin Roosevelt, as his first Supreme Court nominee, chose KKKer Hugo Black, who wrote into jurisprudence, the infamous ‘separation of church and state’ lie. Perhaps Black never saw the motto on the back of the Great Seal…

annuit coeptis Latin. He (God) has favored our undertakings.
It is the motto, adapted from the Aeneid (IX.625), that appears
on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States.





4. But, why subvert the faith on which this country was built?
Answer: To replace our inheritance, Genesis 1:26, individualism, with the collective.

"The abandonment of the Christian tradition that created the West's most cherished ideal [with] a radical secularism evident in Europe's indifference to God and church- created a vacuum of belief into which many pseudo-religions have poured: scientism, fascism, communism, environmentalism, multiculturalism, sheer hedonism [and Islam] - all have attempted and failed....to provide Europeans with an alternative to Christianity that can show them what is worth living and dying for."
From "Decline and Fall: Europe's Slow-Motion Suicide," by Bruce Thornton


“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro

What makes YOU think YOU have the right to brainwash MY KIDS with YOUR RELIGION?!?!?!?!?!


LEAVE OUR KIDS ALONE!

Brainwash???



Leftism is so pervasive, that if applied to any other way of looking at life, it would be widely recognized as a form of brainwashing! Image a person who attended only fundamental Christian schools from preschool through graduate school, who never saw a secular, let alone anti-Christian, film, and who only read religious books. Most would say that they had been ‘brainwashed.” Yet, we regularly find individuals who only attended secular liberal schools from preschool through college, watched or listened to only Left-of-center television, movies, music, and had essentially no exposure to religious or conservative ideas. Brainwashed?

Of course not! Liberals are open-minded!!! The irony here is that the denial itself shows how very effective the brainwashing has been.
Dennis Prager



Now, Christians or Jews who have rarely been exposed to secular ideas and values would readily acknowledge same. It is only those on the Left who fool themselves into believing that they have been exposed to all points of view.
Universities have become to Liberalism what a Christian seminary is to Christianity. The difference is that Christian seminaries acknowledge their purpose, to produce committed Christians.


a. “The purpose of a university should be to make a son as unlike his father as possible.” The University's Part in Political Life” (13 March 1909) in PWW (The Papers of Woodrow Wilson) 19:99.









Looks like you've proven Rule #2

Rule #2
To know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.

2a. If not for double standards Liberals would have no standards at all.

 

[pinqy]

The United States Constitution.

Article VI
but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Article VI guaranteed that governance of this country was not limited to Christians, and it was acknowledged at the time that Article VI allowed Jews, Muslims, atheists, Hindus, etc to hold Federal office.

Amendment I is what Jefferson was referring to when he said “this building a wall of separation between Church & State:” that no religion would dominate the government, and that the government would not tell people which religious beliefs were allowed or favor any religious beliefs over others.

And then in Everson v Board of Education of Ewing Township, the SCOTUS ruled that the establishment clause applied to the states via Amendment XIV, ruling that including parochial schools in reimbursing public transportation fares for school children was NOT a violation of the first amendment.

So, which specific parts of the Constitution are you objecting to?
Article VI which allows those of any or no religious belief to hold office?
Amendment I which forbids religious dominance or favoritism?
Or Amendment XIX, which incorporates most of the Bill of Rights, applying them to state and local governments?

I would appreciate (but I do not anticipate) specific legal arguments, not vague rhetorical claims.

 

[occupied]

Personal faith can be a fine thing that gets us through the bad times and provide us with a social circle of like minded friends but that is not the issue here. The kind of political religion that the Christian right espouses is a kind of secular control that Americans have spent our history rejecting. It's not freedom of religion because it is openly hostile to other faiths and even some denominations of Christianity. It's not freedom because the religious right has a list as long as your arm of things they would ban if only they were given a moral veto on our daily lives. It would be like living in an absolute theocracy run by crazy cat ladies.

 

[beagle9]

And now for a perfect topic for this Sunday......a word from our Sponsor.


Or…Traditional vs Secular…..or conservative vs Liberal…or American vs Bolshevik

If you went to government school, you were steeped in the latter of each phrase. You were deprived of real history of this nation, and of Western Civilization. But, like Mighty Mouse, here I am to save the day.




1.The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



2. The fact is that as part of Western Civilization, we owe our origins to a particular combination of these doctrines: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively.
[Ben Shapiro]

To claim that America was not created with these ideas is a terrible lie, a scheme to cheat generations of Americans who believe what government school tells them.
Nor is it an accident….it is the plan.

“Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God.” G.K. Chesterton





3. Nor is it a coincidence that the acolyte of Joseph Stalin, that would be Franklin Roosevelt, as his first Supreme Court nominee, chose KKKer Hugo Black, who wrote into jurisprudence, the infamous ‘separation of church and state’ lie. Perhaps Black never saw the motto on the back of the Great Seal…

annuit coeptis Latin. He (God) has favored our undertakings.
It is the motto, adapted from the Aeneid (IX.625), that appears
on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States.





4. But, why subvert the faith on which this country was built?
Answer: To replace our inheritance, Genesis 1:26, individualism, with the collective.

"The abandonment of the Christian tradition that created the West's most cherished ideal [with] a radical secularism evident in Europe's indifference to God and church- created a vacuum of belief into which many pseudo-religions have poured: scientism, fascism, communism, environmentalism, multiculturalism, sheer hedonism [and Islam] - all have attempted and failed....to provide Europeans with an alternative to Christianity that can show them what is worth living and dying for."
From "Decline and Fall: Europe's Slow-Motion Suicide," by Bruce Thornton


“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro

"“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro"


gay ben shapiro would have been tormented, tortured and beaten (until he committed suicide) by CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS if liberals and progressives hadn't forced YOUR religion out of its prominent loft in public schools. And YOU would be here inciting your friends to violence, "gays are an abomination"

is THAT what you want?

conservative christians back in public schools teaching kids to hate gays?

And so this is the reason Christianity must be destroyed, and wiped from our records and society today in your opinion ??

 

[PoliticalChic]

The United States Constitution.

Article VI
but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Article VI guaranteed that governance of this country was not limited to Christians, and it was acknowledged at the time that Article VI allowed Jews, Muslims, atheists, Hindus, etc to hold Federal office.

Amendment I is what Jefferson was referring to when he said “this building a wall of separation between Church & State:” that no religion would dominate the government, and that the government would not tell people which religious beliefs were allowed or favor any religious beliefs over others.

And then in Everson v Board of Education of Ewing Township, the SCOTUS ruled that the establishment clause applied to the states via Amendment XIV, ruling that including parochial schools in reimbursing public transportation fares for school children was NOT a violation of the first amendment.

So, which specific parts of the Constitution are you objecting to?
Article VI which allows those of any or no religious belief to hold office?
Amendment I which forbids religious dominance or favoritism?
Or Amendment XIX, which incorporates most of the Bill of Rights, applying them to state and local governments?

I would appreciate (but I do not anticipate) specific legal arguments, not vague rhetorical claims.

Now....focus like a laser, junior.

What does this have to do with anything in the thread?


If this is your attempt to support Leftist, atheism or anti-Americanism.....you've failed miserably.

 

[beagle9]

Personal faith can be a fine thing that gets us through the bad times and provide us with a social circle of like minded friends but that is not the issue here. The kind of political religion that the Christian right espouses is a kind of secular control that Americans have spent our history rejecting. It's not freedom of religion because it is openly hostile to other faiths and even some denominations of Christianity. It's not freedom because the religious right has a list as long as your arm of things they would ban if only they were given a moral veto on our daily lives. It would be like living in an absolute theocracy run by crazy cat ladies.

What part of the ten commandments are a detriment to your life in this country ??

 

[PoliticalChic]

Personal faith can be a fine thing that gets us through the bad times and provide us with a social circle of like minded friends but that is not the issue here. The kind of political religion that the Christian right espouses is a kind of secular control that Americans have spent our history rejecting. It's not freedom of religion because it is openly hostile to other faiths and even some denominations of Christianity. It's not freedom because the religious right has a list as long as your arm of things they would ban if only they were given a moral veto on our daily lives. It would be like living in an absolute theocracy run by crazy cat ladies.

It appears you haven't incorporated or comprehended anything in the OP...you've simply defaulted to the hate that has been programmed into you in government school.


But....I am magnanimous (better look that up)....here: try again-

1.The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



2. The fact is that as part of Western Civilization, we owe our origins to a particular combination of these doctrines: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively.
[Ben Shapiro]

To claim that America was not created with these ideas is a terrible lie, a scheme to cheat generations of Americans who believe what government school tells them.
Nor is it an accident….it is the plan.

“Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God.” G.K. Chesterton





3. Nor is it a coincidence that the acolyte of Joseph Stalin, that would be Franklin Roosevelt, as his first Supreme Court nominee, chose KKKer Hugo Black, who wrote into jurisprudence, the infamous ‘separation of church and state’ lie. Perhaps Black never saw the motto on the back of the Great Seal…

annuit coeptis Latin. He (God) has favored our undertakings.
It is the motto, adapted from the Aeneid (IX.625), that appears
on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States.





4. But, why subvert the faith on which this country was built?
Answer: To replace our inheritance, Genesis 1:26, individualism, with the collective.




Did you find any errors?

No?

Excellent.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And now for a perfect topic for this Sunday......a word from our Sponsor.


Or…Traditional vs Secular…..or conservative vs Liberal…or American vs Bolshevik

If you went to government school, you were steeped in the latter of each phrase. You were deprived of real history of this nation, and of Western Civilization. But, like Mighty Mouse, here I am to save the day.




1.The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



2. The fact is that as part of Western Civilization, we owe our origins to a particular combination of these doctrines: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively.
[Ben Shapiro]

To claim that America was not created with these ideas is a terrible lie, a scheme to cheat generations of Americans who believe what government school tells them.
Nor is it an accident….it is the plan.

“Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God.” G.K. Chesterton





3. Nor is it a coincidence that the acolyte of Joseph Stalin, that would be Franklin Roosevelt, as his first Supreme Court nominee, chose KKKer Hugo Black, who wrote into jurisprudence, the infamous ‘separation of church and state’ lie. Perhaps Black never saw the motto on the back of the Great Seal…

annuit coeptis Latin. He (God) has favored our undertakings.
It is the motto, adapted from the Aeneid (IX.625), that appears
on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States.





4. But, why subvert the faith on which this country was built?
Answer: To replace our inheritance, Genesis 1:26, individualism, with the collective.

"The abandonment of the Christian tradition that created the West's most cherished ideal [with] a radical secularism evident in Europe's indifference to God and church- created a vacuum of belief into which many pseudo-religions have poured: scientism, fascism, communism, environmentalism, multiculturalism, sheer hedonism [and Islam] - all have attempted and failed....to provide Europeans with an alternative to Christianity that can show them what is worth living and dying for."
From "Decline and Fall: Europe's Slow-Motion Suicide," by Bruce Thornton


“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro

"“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro"


gay ben shapiro would have been tormented, tortured and beaten (until he committed suicide) by CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS if liberals and progressives hadn't forced YOUR religion out of its prominent loft in public schools. And YOU would be here inciting your friends to violence, "gays are an abomination"

is THAT what you want?

conservative christians back in public schools teaching kids to hate gays?

And so this is the reason Christianity must be destroyed, and wiped from our records and society today in your opinion ??

Mud can't have an opinion.....he isn't capable of anything more than parroting what is socialist masters tell him to.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

And now for a perfect topic for this Sunday......a word from our Sponsor.


Or…Traditional vs Secular…..or conservative vs Liberal…or American vs Bolshevik

If you went to government school, you were steeped in the latter of each phrase. You were deprived of real history of this nation, and of Western Civilization. But, like Mighty Mouse, here I am to save the day.




1.The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



2. The fact is that as part of Western Civilization, we owe our origins to a particular combination of these doctrines: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively.
[Ben Shapiro]

To claim that America was not created with these ideas is a terrible lie, a scheme to cheat generations of Americans who believe what government school tells them.
Nor is it an accident….it is the plan.

“Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God.” G.K. Chesterton





3. Nor is it a coincidence that the acolyte of Joseph Stalin, that would be Franklin Roosevelt, as his first Supreme Court nominee, chose KKKer Hugo Black, who wrote into jurisprudence, the infamous ‘separation of church and state’ lie. Perhaps Black never saw the motto on the back of the Great Seal…

annuit coeptis Latin. He (God) has favored our undertakings.
It is the motto, adapted from the Aeneid (IX.625), that appears
on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States.





4. But, why subvert the faith on which this country was built?
Answer: To replace our inheritance, Genesis 1:26, individualism, with the collective.

"The abandonment of the Christian tradition that created the West's most cherished ideal [with] a radical secularism evident in Europe's indifference to God and church- created a vacuum of belief into which many pseudo-religions have poured: scientism, fascism, communism, environmentalism, multiculturalism, sheer hedonism [and Islam] - all have attempted and failed....to provide Europeans with an alternative to Christianity that can show them what is worth living and dying for."
From "Decline and Fall: Europe's Slow-Motion Suicide," by Bruce Thornton


“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro

"“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro"


gay ben shapiro would have been tormented, tortured and beaten (until he committed suicide) by CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS if liberals and progressives hadn't forced YOUR religion out of its prominent loft in public schools. And YOU would be here inciting your friends to violence, "gays are an abomination"

is THAT what you want?

conservative christians back in public schools teaching kids to hate gays?

Can't any of you Leftists ever post without lying????

1. Document that the subject of your post is gay, or admit that you are simply lying scum.

2. Let's see any such "tormented, tortured and beaten" or admit that you simply swallow every lie government school programmed into you.

3. Instead of inadvertently admitting that everything in the OP is factual, you've penned the usual sort of " Is not.....I hate you" post that Liberals are infamous for.

lol

You first.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The thesis in this thread is the Left's battle cry "separation of church and state."

And on that theme.....



5.As for the famous “separation of church and state,” the phrase appears in no federal document. In fact, at the time of ratification of the Constitution, ten of the thirteen colonies had some provision recognizing Christianity as either the official, or the recommended religion in their state constitutions.

The Founders intention was to be sure that the federal government didn’t do the same, and mandate a national religion. And when Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptists in 1802, it was to reassure them the federal government could not interfere in their religious observations, i.e., there is “a wall of separation between church and state.” He wasn’t speaking of religion contaminating the government, but of the government contaminating religious observance.

Any with library card and a need for truth can find that communists, Marxists, socialists, Progressives, have the very opposite view: they abhor religion.



6. From Chief Justice Wm. Rehnquist on the lie, separation of church and state:

“The Framers intended the Establishment Clause to prohibit the designation of any church as a "national" one. The Clause was also designed to stop the Federal Government from asserting a preference for one religious denomination or sect over others. Given the "incorporation" of the Establishment Clause as against the States via the Fourteenth Amendment in Everson, States are prohibited as well from establishing a religion or discriminating between sects.

As its history abundantly shows, however, nothing in the Establishment Clause requires government to be strictly neutral between religion and irreligion, nor does that Clause prohibit Congress or the States from pursuing legitimate secular ends through nondiscriminatory sectarian means.”



At no time, and in no way, was America ever meant to ‘separate church and state.’

 

[PoliticalChic]

And now for a perfect topic for this Sunday......a word from our Sponsor.


Or…Traditional vs Secular…..or conservative vs Liberal…or American vs Bolshevik

If you went to government school, you were steeped in the latter of each phrase. You were deprived of real history of this nation, and of Western Civilization. But, like Mighty Mouse, here I am to save the day.




1.The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



2. The fact is that as part of Western Civilization, we owe our origins to a particular combination of these doctrines: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively.
[Ben Shapiro]

To claim that America was not created with these ideas is a terrible lie, a scheme to cheat generations of Americans who believe what government school tells them.
Nor is it an accident….it is the plan.

“Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God.” G.K. Chesterton





3. Nor is it a coincidence that the acolyte of Joseph Stalin, that would be Franklin Roosevelt, as his first Supreme Court nominee, chose KKKer Hugo Black, who wrote into jurisprudence, the infamous ‘separation of church and state’ lie. Perhaps Black never saw the motto on the back of the Great Seal…

annuit coeptis Latin. He (God) has favored our undertakings.
It is the motto, adapted from the Aeneid (IX.625), that appears
on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States.





4. But, why subvert the faith on which this country was built?
Answer: To replace our inheritance, Genesis 1:26, individualism, with the collective.

"The abandonment of the Christian tradition that created the West's most cherished ideal [with] a radical secularism evident in Europe's indifference to God and church- created a vacuum of belief into which many pseudo-religions have poured: scientism, fascism, communism, environmentalism, multiculturalism, sheer hedonism [and Islam] - all have attempted and failed....to provide Europeans with an alternative to Christianity that can show them what is worth living and dying for."
From "Decline and Fall: Europe's Slow-Motion Suicide," by Bruce Thornton


“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro

"“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro"


gay ben shapiro would have been tormented, tortured and beaten (until he committed suicide) by CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS if liberals and progressives hadn't forced YOUR religion out of its prominent loft in public schools. And YOU would be here inciting your friends to violence, "gays are an abomination"

is THAT what you want?

conservative christians back in public schools teaching kids to hate gays?

Can't any of you Leftists ever post without lying????

1. Document that the subject of your post is gay, or admit that you are simply lying scum.

2. Let's see any such "tormented, tortured and beaten" or admit that you simply swallow every lie government school programmed into you.

3. Instead of inadvertently admitting that everything in the OP is factual, you've penned the usual sort of " Is not.....I hate you" post that Liberals are infamous for.

lol

You first.

I did.

Hence, the OP.

Can't find a single error?

Excellent.

 

[pinqy]

The United States Constitution.

Article VI
but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Article VI guaranteed that governance of this country was not limited to Christians, and it was acknowledged at the time that Article VI allowed Jews, Muslims, atheists, Hindus, etc to hold Federal office.

Amendment I is what Jefferson was referring to when he said “this building a wall of separation between Church & State:” that no religion would dominate the government, and that the government would not tell people which religious beliefs were allowed or favor any religious beliefs over others.

And then in Everson v Board of Education of Ewing Township, the SCOTUS ruled that the establishment clause applied to the states via Amendment XIV, ruling that including parochial schools in reimbursing public transportation fares for school children was NOT a violation of the first amendment.

So, which specific parts of the Constitution are you objecting to?
Article VI which allows those of any or no religious belief to hold office?
Amendment I which forbids religious dominance or favoritism?
Or Amendment XIX, which incorporates most of the Bill of Rights, applying them to state and local governments?

I would appreciate (but I do not anticipate) specific legal arguments, not vague rhetorical claims.

Now....focus like a laser, junior

What does this have to do with anything in the thread?

Was your thread not about Separation of Church and State?

If this is your attempt to support Leftist, atheism or anti-Americanism.....you've failed miserably.

You were objecting to the concept of Church State separation.

The concept of this separation was specifically based on the Establishment Clause, but reasonably also can refer to Article VI and the Free Exercise Clause If the 1A, and the incorporation If the establishment and free exercise clauses by Amendment XIV.

Therefore, if you object to the concept of Church State Separation you must also object to the laws that establish the Walk of Separation.

Is that simple enough for you?

 

[occupied]

Personal faith can be a fine thing that gets us through the bad times and provide us with a social circle of like minded friends but that is not the issue here. The kind of political religion that the Christian right espouses is a kind of secular control that Americans have spent our history rejecting. It's not freedom of religion because it is openly hostile to other faiths and even some denominations of Christianity. It's not freedom because the religious right has a list as long as your arm of things they would ban if only they were given a moral veto on our daily lives. It would be like living in an absolute theocracy run by crazy cat ladies.

What part of the ten commandments are a detriment to your life in this country ??

The five commandments that demand a devotion to God above all else have no place in a secular society. It's those that made the ancient Hebrew temple the ultimate secular authority and the kind of murderous theocracy that we claim to hate. If it is your thing consult the bible for how to live your life but it sucks as a guide to how to lead a modern western country.

 

[dudmuck]

The thesis in this thread is the Left's battle cry "separation of church and state."

And on that theme.....



5.As for the famous “separation of church and state,” the phrase appears in no federal document. In fact, at the time of ratification of the Constitution, ten of the thirteen colonies had some provision recognizing Christianity as either the official, or the recommended religion in their state constitutions.

The Founders intention was to be sure that the federal government didn’t do the same, and mandate a national religion. And when Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptists in 1802, it was to reassure them the federal government could not interfere in their religious observations, i.e., there is “a wall of separation between church and state.” He wasn’t speaking of religion contaminating the government, but of the government contaminating religious observance.

Any with library card and a need for truth can find that communists, Marxists, socialists, Progressives, have the very opposite view: they abhor religion.



6. From Chief Justice Wm. Rehnquist on the lie, separation of church and state:

“The Framers intended the Establishment Clause to prohibit the designation of any church as a "national" one. The Clause was also designed to stop the Federal Government from asserting a preference for one religious denomination or sect over others. Given the "incorporation" of the Establishment Clause as against the States via the Fourteenth Amendment in Everson, States are prohibited as well from establishing a religion or discriminating between sects.

As its history abundantly shows, however, nothing in the Establishment Clause requires government to be strictly neutral between religion and irreligion, nor does that Clause prohibit Congress or the States from pursuing legitimate secular ends through nondiscriminatory sectarian means.”



At no time, and in no way, was America ever meant to ‘separate church and state.’

You're saying that usa was never meant to have separation of church & state, while simultaneously describing conditions where we have such separation and need it. We are a country of freedom of religion or to have no religion. This is why we need it:

Instead of religion, i believe we only need to realize that "anything not done out of love is a waste time", a message from the DMT machine elves. Also, that our emotions are self generated. But you're free to pursue any religion you desire, as long as you actually adhere to its teachings.

 

[mudwhistle]

And now for a perfect topic for this Sunday......a word from our Sponsor.


Or…Traditional vs Secular…..or conservative vs Liberal…or American vs Bolshevik

If you went to government school, you were steeped in the latter of each phrase. You were deprived of real history of this nation, and of Western Civilization. But, like Mighty Mouse, here I am to save the day.




1.The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”



2. The fact is that as part of Western Civilization, we owe our origins to a particular combination of these doctrines: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively.
[Ben Shapiro]

To claim that America was not created with these ideas is a terrible lie, a scheme to cheat generations of Americans who believe what government school tells them.
Nor is it an accident….it is the plan.

“Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God.” G.K. Chesterton





3. Nor is it a coincidence that the acolyte of Joseph Stalin, that would be Franklin Roosevelt, as his first Supreme Court nominee, chose KKKer Hugo Black, who wrote into jurisprudence, the infamous ‘separation of church and state’ lie. Perhaps Black never saw the motto on the back of the Great Seal…

annuit coeptis Latin. He (God) has favored our undertakings.
It is the motto, adapted from the Aeneid (IX.625), that appears
on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States.





4. But, why subvert the faith on which this country was built?
Answer: To replace our inheritance, Genesis 1:26, individualism, with the collective.

"The abandonment of the Christian tradition that created the West's most cherished ideal [with] a radical secularism evident in Europe's indifference to God and church- created a vacuum of belief into which many pseudo-religions have poured: scientism, fascism, communism, environmentalism, multiculturalism, sheer hedonism [and Islam] - all have attempted and failed....to provide Europeans with an alternative to Christianity that can show them what is worth living and dying for."
From "Decline and Fall: Europe's Slow-Motion Suicide," by Bruce Thornton


“…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro

The Church and State issue is just a ploy to remove Christianity and insert Islam into our schools.

 

[Oddball]

Can't have a separation between church and State when your church is The State.