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Among the Travel Warnings that pro Israel Western MSM conspicuously refuses to publish is the spitting on Christians by Israeli Jews that Israel's National Security Minister, ben Gvir, regards as "...an old Jewish tradition." (1)

Not only is this unhealthy and racist hate crime tolerated by the US Funded Netanyahu regime, it is excused as "...an old Jewish tradition." by the same murderous, right wing miscreants who survive, today, only due to the countless $ Trillions extorted by America's infestation of privileged and unregistered Israeli lobbies.

What is also conspicuous in its absence anywhere in America's Ziono-Media is the additional fact that the Israeli Foreign Ministry (2) refuses to show any interest in addressing this additional blatantly racist hate crime that is among the true causes of anti Jewish sentiment around the world.

As if America's Ziono-Media chokehold on Free Speech was not bad enough, Netanyahu's lapdog currently occupying the White House continues to desperately appease his Zionist masters by creating an another taxpayer funded enemy of our First Amendment known as an "Anti Semitism Czar".

It is simply common sense that any and all forms of bigotry are not only repulsive but intellectually stunting.

The detrimental effect of most of today's relentless and fatuous whining over "anti Semitism" was revealed years ago as "The Trick" (3) by one of the many honest, courageous and ethical Jews who dared to speak truth to power.

Finally, it is a tragic irony that the internet's glut of genocidal and Full Time shills who fully support any and all forms of provocative Zionist criminality are entirely complicit in both creating and galvanizing genuine anti Jewish sentiment that leads to such tragic incidents as Australia's mass killings.

Anyone genuinely concerned about anti Jewish sentiment must oppose the right wing Zionist extremists whose blatant provocations endanger Jews around the world with such atrocities as today's most heavily censored and foreign funded Gaza genocide.

Thanks,




(1). "Ben Gvir: ‘Israelis spitting on Christians is an old Jewish tradition’"​

EXCERPT "Israel's minister in charge of crime and policing, Itamar Ben-Gvir, has said it's not a crime for Israeli Jews to spit on Christians. The Jewish holiday of Sukkot saw an increase in abuses on Christians by Israelis according to Christian leaders in Jerusalem. Spitting on people of a minority religion would be considered a hate crime in most countries, but for the Israeli government it is simply 'an old Jewish tradition'."​




(2). "Israel Foreign Ministry to boycott event focused on spitting attacks against Christians"​


EXCERPT "The Israeli Foreign Ministry will boycott a conference in Jerusalem next week that will focus on the growing wave of attacks by Jewish Israelis against Christians in Jerusalem, according to the organizers and Israeli Foreign Ministry officials." CONTINUED


(3). “Don’t be caught out by ‘the trick’”

EXCERPTS "“Well, it’s a trick, we always use it. When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust. When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic.....

And it’s very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as anti-Semitic, and to bring up the Holocaust, and the suffering of the Jewish people, and that is to justify everything we do to the Palestinians.
”CONTINUED
Shulamit Aloni
 
Among the Travel Warnings that pro Israel Western MSM conspicuously refuses to publish is the spitting on Christians by Israeli Jews that Israel's National Security Minister, ben Gvir, regards as "...an old Jewish tradition." (1)

Not only is this unhealthy and racist hate crime tolerated by the US Funded Netanyahu regime, it is excused as "...an old Jewish tradition." by the same murderous, right wing miscreants who survive, today, only due to the countless $ Trillions extorted by America's infestation of privileged and unregistered Israeli lobbies.

What is also conspicuous in its absence anywhere in America's Ziono-Media is the additional fact that the Israeli Foreign Ministry (2) refuses to show any interest in addressing this additional blatantly racist hate crime that is among the true causes of anti Jewish sentiment around the world.

As if America's Ziono-Media chokehold on Free Speech was not bad enough, Netanyahu's lapdog currently occupying the White House continues to desperately appease his Zionist masters by creating an another taxpayer funded enemy of our First Amendment known as an "Anti Semitism Czar".

It is simply common sense that any and all forms of bigotry are not only repulsive but intellectually stunting.

The detrimental effect of most of today's relentless and fatuous whining over "anti Semitism" was revealed years ago as "The Trick" (3) by one of the many honest, courageous and ethical Jews who dared to speak truth to power.

Finally, it is a tragic irony that the internet's glut of genocidal and Full Time shills who fully support any and all forms of provocative Zionist criminality are entirely complicit in both creating and galvanizing genuine anti Jewish sentiment that leads to such tragic incidents as Australia's mass killings.

Anyone genuinely concerned about anti Jewish sentiment must oppose the right wing Zionist extremists whose blatant provocations endanger Jews around the world with such atrocities as today's most heavily censored and foreign funded Gaza genocide.

Thanks,




(1). "Ben Gvir: ‘Israelis spitting on Christians is an old Jewish tradition’"​

EXCERPT "Israel's minister in charge of crime and policing, Itamar Ben-Gvir, has said it's not a crime for Israeli Jews to spit on Christians. The Jewish holiday of Sukkot saw an increase in abuses on Christians by Israelis according to Christian leaders in Jerusalem. Spitting on people of a minority religion would be considered a hate crime in most countries, but for the Israeli government it is simply 'an old Jewish tradition'."​




(2). "Israel Foreign Ministry to boycott event focused on spitting attacks against Christians"​


EXCERPT "The Israeli Foreign Ministry will boycott a conference in Jerusalem next week that will focus on the growing wave of attacks by Jewish Israelis against Christians in Jerusalem, according to the organizers and Israeli Foreign Ministry officials." CONTINUED


(3). “Don’t be caught out by ‘the trick’”

EXCERPTS "“Well, it’s a trick, we always use it. When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust. When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic.....

And it’s very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as anti-Semitic, and to bring up the Holocaust, and the suffering of the Jewish people, and that is to justify everything we do to the Palestinians.
”CONTINUED
Shulamit Aloni

That's awful!

How many Jews are living in Bethlehem?

 
Among the Travel Warnings that pro Israel Western MSM conspicuously refuses to publish is the spitting on Christians by Israeli Jews that Israel's National Security Minister, ben Gvir, regards as "...an old Jewish tradition." (1)

Not only is this unhealthy and racist hate crime tolerated by the US Funded Netanyahu regime, it is excused as "...an old Jewish tradition." by the same murderous, right wing miscreants who survive, today, only due to the countless $ Trillions extorted by America's infestation of privileged and unregistered Israeli lobbies.

What is also conspicuous in its absence anywhere in America's Ziono-Media is the additional fact that the Israeli Foreign Ministry (2) refuses to show any interest in addressing this additional blatantly racist hate crime that is among the true causes of anti Jewish sentiment around the world.

As if America's Ziono-Media chokehold on Free Speech was not bad enough, Netanyahu's lapdog currently occupying the White House continues to desperately appease his Zionist masters by creating an another taxpayer funded enemy of our First Amendment known as an "Anti Semitism Czar".

It is simply common sense that any and all forms of bigotry are not only repulsive but intellectually stunting.

The detrimental effect of most of today's relentless and fatuous whining over "anti Semitism" was revealed years ago as "The Trick" (3) by one of the many honest, courageous and ethical Jews who dared to speak truth to power.

Finally, it is a tragic irony that the internet's glut of genocidal and Full Time shills who fully support any and all forms of provocative Zionist criminality are entirely complicit in both creating and galvanizing genuine anti Jewish sentiment that leads to such tragic incidents as Australia's mass killings.

Anyone genuinely concerned about anti Jewish sentiment must oppose the right wing Zionist extremists whose blatant provocations endanger Jews around the world with such atrocities as today's most heavily censored and foreign funded Gaza genocide.

Thanks,




(1). "Ben Gvir: ‘Israelis spitting on Christians is an old Jewish tradition’"​

EXCERPT "Israel's minister in charge of crime and policing, Itamar Ben-Gvir, has said it's not a crime for Israeli Jews to spit on Christians. The Jewish holiday of Sukkot saw an increase in abuses on Christians by Israelis according to Christian leaders in Jerusalem. Spitting on people of a minority religion would be considered a hate crime in most countries, but for the Israeli government it is simply 'an old Jewish tradition'."​




(2). "Israel Foreign Ministry to boycott event focused on spitting attacks against Christians"​


EXCERPT "The Israeli Foreign Ministry will boycott a conference in Jerusalem next week that will focus on the growing wave of attacks by Jewish Israelis against Christians in Jerusalem, according to the organizers and Israeli Foreign Ministry officials." CONTINUED


(3). “Don’t be caught out by ‘the trick’”

EXCERPTS "“Well, it’s a trick, we always use it. When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust. When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic.....

And it’s very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as anti-Semitic, and to bring up the Holocaust, and the suffering of the Jewish people, and that is to justify everything we do to the Palestinians.
”CONTINUED
Shulamit Aloni


A series of pogroms.....
holocausts.....
witch trials.....
Inquisitions......
expulsions......
of Jews by Christians who were in positions of political and economic power..... will tend to come back to bit us!
 
A series of pogroms.....
holocausts.....
witch trials.....
Inquisitions......
expulsions......
of Jews by Christians who were in positions of political and economic power..... will tend to come back to bit us!


Thank you.

It is precisely because I strongly oppose all forms of bigotry and hate crimes that I join the growing number of ethical, educated and honest Jews in opposing the REAL causes of anti Jewish sentiment, past and present.

It is an irrefutable fact relating to the Laws of Physics that as old as time itself is:

"For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction."

For example, just the day before the mass killing of Jews in Australia, I submitted a letter to an American newspaper regarding my concern for the security of Jews around the world due to global outrage stemming from today's heavily censored and foreign funded Gaza Genocide.


While I don't know the degree to which those Australian Jews have supported over 70 years of Zionist genocide and expansionism, it is impossible to ignore the degree to which that same heavily censored ongoing systematic extermination has galvanized generations of Nakba survivors around the world.

Since virtually all of Western MSM heavily censors the true causes of anti Jewish acts like those you mention, few people know of history's largely atheistic Jews whose sadistic criminality is entirely unknown to virtually all Westerners.

For example, it is naive to believe that those who survived the murderous machinations of Jewish butcher, Genrikh Yagoda (1) would not remain hostile to both him and the other atheistic Jewish mass murderers like him.

Among the ethical and honest Jews who are also genuinely concerned about true anti Jewish sentiment is Jewish writer and musician, Gilad Atzmon who dares to speak truth to power. (2)

It is precisely because of this same decades old Zionist MSM censorship that you have never heard of Genrikh Yagoda and the thousands of genocidal Jews (atheistic and otherwise) like him who exemplify the reality of that Law of Physics I mentioned earlier.

Of course there are irrational, murderous and rabid bigots of all religious and ethnic groups but the fact remains that if you want to prevent crimes against Jews, condemn crimes committed by Jews.

Enjoy your holidays...




(1). "Stalin's Jews"

"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.

In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED


(2). "Jews DO control the media,"

EXCERPT "Let’s be honest with ourselves, here, fellow Jews. We do control the media. We’ve got so many dudes up in the executive offices in all the big movie production companies it’s almost obscene. Just about every movie or TV show, whether it be “Tropic Thunder” or “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” is rife with actors, directors, and writers who are Jewish. Did you know that all eight major film studios are run by Jews?"

But the funny part is when any anti-Semite or anti-Israel person starts to spout stuff like, “The Jews control the media!” and “The Jews control Washington!”


Suddenly we’re up in arms. We create huge campaigns to take these people down. We do what we can to put them out of work. We publish articles. We’ve created entire organizations that exist just to tell everyone that the Jews don’t control nothin’. No, we don’t control the media, we don’t have any more sway in DC than anyone else. No, no, no, we swear: We’re just like everybody else!

Does anyone else (who’s not a bigot) see the irony of this?"
CONTINUED
 
Thank you.

It is precisely because I strongly oppose all forms of bigotry and hate crimes that I join the growing number of ethical, educated and honest Jews in opposing the REAL causes of anti Jewish sentiment, past and present.

It is an irrefutable fact relating to the Laws of Physics that as old as time itself is:

"For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction."

For example, just the day before the mass killing of Jews in Australia, I submitted a letter to an American newspaper regarding my concern for the security of Jews around the world due to global outrage stemming from today's heavily censored and foreign funded Gaza Genocide.


While I don't know the degree to which those Australian Jews have supported over 70 years of Zionist genocide and expansionism, it is impossible to ignore the degree to which that same heavily censored ongoing systematic extermination has galvanized generations of Nakba survivors around the world.

Since virtually all of Western MSM heavily censors the true causes of anti Jewish acts like those you mention, few people know of history's largely atheistic Jews whose sadistic criminality is entirely unknown to virtually all Westerners.

For example, it is naive to believe that those who survived the murderous machinations of Jewish butcher, Genrikh Yagoda (1) would not remain hostile to both him and the other atheistic Jewish mass murderers like him.

Among the ethical and honest Jews who are also genuinely concerned about true anti Jewish sentiment is Jewish writer and musician, Gilad Atzmon who dares to speak truth to power. (2)

It is precisely because of this same decades old Zionist MSM censorship that you have never heard of Genrikh Yagoda and the thousands of genocidal Jews (atheistic and otherwise) like him who exemplify the reality of that Law of Physics I mentioned earlier.

Of course there are irrational, murderous and rabid bigots of all religious and ethnic groups but the fact remains that if you want to prevent crimes against Jews, condemn crimes committed by Jews.

Enjoy your holidays...




(1). "Stalin's Jews"

"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.

In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED


(2). "Jews DO control the media,"

EXCERPT "Let’s be honest with ourselves, here, fellow Jews. We do control the media. We’ve got so many dudes up in the executive offices in all the big movie production companies it’s almost obscene. Just about every movie or TV show, whether it be “Tropic Thunder” or “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” is rife with actors, directors, and writers who are Jewish. Did you know that all eight major film studios are run by Jews?"

But the funny part is when any anti-Semite or anti-Israel person starts to spout stuff like, “The Jews control the media!” and “The Jews control Washington!”


Suddenly we’re up in arms. We create huge campaigns to take these people down. We do what we can to put them out of work. We publish articles. We’ve created entire organizations that exist just to tell everyone that the Jews don’t control nothin’. No, we don’t control the media, we don’t have any more sway in DC than anyone else. No, no, no, we swear: We’re just like everybody else!

Does anyone else (who’s not a bigot) see the irony of this?"
CONTINUED


"For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction."

What's the reaction to over 1000 years of Muslim invasion and slaughter?
 
Grau

I see your "fake news" reactions. You are deliberately misrepresenting both the law and Ben Gvir's words.

Here is the law (emphasis mine):

Definition of assault 378.
If a person strikes, touches, pushes or otherwise applies force to another person, whether directly or indirectly, either without his consent or with his consent, which was obtained fraudulently, then that constitutes assault; for this purpose, "application of force" includes the application of heat, light, electricity, gas, smells or any other thing or substance, if it is applied to a degree that causes injury or discomfort.
Common assault 379.
If a person unlawfully assaults another, then he is liable to two years imprisonment and that if no different punishment is provided in this Law for that offense or due to its circumstances.


Here is what Ben-Gvir actually said (October 2023):

“I still think spitting at Christians is not a criminal case. I think we need to act on it through instruction and education. Not everything justifies an arrest. It is deserving of every condemnation. It should be stopped. I asked Rabbi Dov Lior, he said it was immoral and wrong. We’re against it. But let’s stop slandering Israel. We’re all brothers, we’re all of the same people.”
 
Among the Travel Warnings that pro Israel Western MSM conspicuously refuses to publish is the spitting on Christians by Israeli Jews that Israel's National Security Minister, ben Gvir, regards as "...an old Jewish tradition." (1)

Not only is this unhealthy and racist hate crime tolerated by the US Funded Netanyahu regime, it is excused as "...an old Jewish tradition." by the same murderous, right wing miscreants who survive, today, only due to the countless $ Trillions extorted by America's infestation of privileged and unregistered Israeli lobbies.

What is also conspicuous in its absence anywhere in America's Ziono-Media is the additional fact that the Israeli Foreign Ministry (2) refuses to show any interest in addressing this additional blatantly racist hate crime that is among the true causes of anti Jewish sentiment around the world.

As if America's Ziono-Media chokehold on Free Speech was not bad enough, Netanyahu's lapdog currently occupying the White House continues to desperately appease his Zionist masters by creating an another taxpayer funded enemy of our First Amendment known as an "Anti Semitism Czar".

It is simply common sense that any and all forms of bigotry are not only repulsive but intellectually stunting.

The detrimental effect of most of today's relentless and fatuous whining over "anti Semitism" was revealed years ago as "The Trick" (3) by one of the many honest, courageous and ethical Jews who dared to speak truth to power.

Finally, it is a tragic irony that the internet's glut of genocidal and Full Time shills who fully support any and all forms of provocative Zionist criminality are entirely complicit in both creating and galvanizing genuine anti Jewish sentiment that leads to such tragic incidents as Australia's mass killings.

Anyone genuinely concerned about anti Jewish sentiment must oppose the right wing Zionist extremists whose blatant provocations endanger Jews around the world with such atrocities as today's most heavily censored and foreign funded Gaza genocide.

Thanks,




(1). "Ben Gvir: ‘Israelis spitting on Christians is an old Jewish tradition’"​

EXCERPT "Israel's minister in charge of crime and policing, Itamar Ben-Gvir, has said it's not a crime for Israeli Jews to spit on Christians. The Jewish holiday of Sukkot saw an increase in abuses on Christians by Israelis according to Christian leaders in Jerusalem. Spitting on people of a minority religion would be considered a hate crime in most countries, but for the Israeli government it is simply 'an old Jewish tradition'."​




(2). "Israel Foreign Ministry to boycott event focused on spitting attacks against Christians"​


EXCERPT "The Israeli Foreign Ministry will boycott a conference in Jerusalem next week that will focus on the growing wave of attacks by Jewish Israelis against Christians in Jerusalem, according to the organizers and Israeli Foreign Ministry officials." CONTINUED


(3). “Don’t be caught out by ‘the trick’”

EXCERPTS "“Well, it’s a trick, we always use it. When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust. When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic.....


“ Criticizing Israel?” Since Oct 7 there has been a lot more than that. Jews being beaten, murdered, denied access to class, etc etc etc Re; Being spit on, Christians have done far worse to Jews for over 2,000 years.
 
Grau, gotta love your commitment to lies when you "fake news" react to Israel's actual Penal Code and the actual quote from Ben Gvir. It's much easier to screech "Zionist baby-killing shills" than it is to confront reality, isn't it?
 
Grau, gotta love your commitment to lies when you "fake news" react to Israel's actual Penal Code and the actual quote from Ben Gvir. It's much easier to screech "Zionist baby-killing shills" than it is to confront reality, isn't it?
To me it doesn’t matter what his fake news is. “ Christians” have done more harm to the Jewish people than any other group
 
Grau

I see your "fake news" reactions. You are deliberately misrepresenting both the law and Ben Gvir's words.

Here is the law (emphasis mine):

Definition of assault 378.
If a person strikes, touches, pushes or otherwise applies force to another person, whether directly or indirectly, either without his consent or with his consent, which was obtained fraudulently, then that constitutes assault; for this purpose, "application of force" includes the application of heat, light, electricity, gas, smells or any other thing or substance, if it is applied to a degree that causes injury or discomfort.
Common assault 379.
If a person unlawfully assaults another, then he is liable to two years imprisonment and that if no different punishment is provided in this Law for that offense or due to its circumstances.


Here is what Ben-Gvir actually said (October 2023):

“I still think spitting at Christians is not a criminal case. I think we need to act on it through instruction and education. Not everything justifies an arrest. It is deserving of every condemnation. It should be stopped. I asked Rabbi Dov Lior, he said it was immoral and wrong. We’re against it. But let’s stop slandering Israel. We’re all brothers, we’re all of the same people.”


Your earlier claim Re: Ben Gvir:

"....that is not what Ben Gvir said" is, characteristically, an easily debunked falsehood to anyone even slightly educated on both the quote and the repulsive yet growing epidemic (1), (2) of bigoted right wing Israelis spitting on Christians.

From Post #3:
"Also, that is not what Ben Gvir said."



Firstly, I do not feel that this despicable form of unhealthy assault is even a "Jews vs Christian" issue.

It is simply the behavior of a foreign created and extreme right wing element of deranged and entitled criminal miscreants.

In addition to the increasing incidents of Israelis spitting on Christians, the growing number of murderous and destructive rampages committed by Israel's rabid "Settler" element is also both foreign funded and primarily comprised of racists of foreign descent.

Since they, too, exhibit no features representative of the Jewish faith, claims that opponents of these far right wing aberrations are "anti Semitic" are as hollow as they are fatuous.

What either these rabid and unchecked Settler rampages or increasing incidents of racist Israelis spitting on Christians reveal should alarm any educated and loyal American.

That disturbing reality is the degree to which Israel's foreign funded and far right wing Netanyahu government is a US Government created fulfillment of Moshe Dayan's
earner stated goal.

"Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Moshe Dayan


What is America's most heavily censored security threat is the U.S. Government's enablement of Netanyahu's ability to murder multitudes throughout the region.

The survivors of Netanyahu's victims ranging from Gaza to Iran are unlikely to forget that those "Israeli" bombs were actually "Made in America".



Specifically regarding the topic of this thread, only 5 Israelis have been "arrested" for publicity purposes and they were immediately released.

Therefore, I dare you to show just one instance in which even one Israeli was actually punished for the growing epidemic of Israelis spitting on Christians.

If there were any significant number of instances in which these genocidal Zionist bigots throughout the country were punished, their racist and repulsive criminality would not be on the rise. (1), (2)



(1). "Israeli police arrest Palestinian man dressed as Santa Claus at Christmas party"​


EXCERPT "Israeli attacks continued despite the holiday. Israeli settlers uprooted olive groves in the town of Turmus Ayya, outside Ramallah, while Israeli soldiers stormed homes and confiscated vehicles near Hebron, according to the WAFA, the Palestinian news agency.

Attacks by Israelis targeting Christians have been on the rise, with a March report documenting 32 attacks on church properties and 45 physical attacks targeting Christians." CONTINUED


"Israel Foreign Ministry to boycott event focused on spitting attacks against Christians"​


EXCERPT "The Israeli Foreign Ministry will boycott a conference in Jerusalem next week that will focus on the growing wave of attacks by Jewish Israelis against Christians in Jerusalem, according to the organizers and Israeli Foreign Ministry officials." CONTINUED
 
"....that is not what Ben Gvir said" is, characteristically, an easily debunked falsehood
So debunk it. The quote I found is this one:

“I still think spitting at Christians is not a criminal case. I think we need to act on it through instruction and education. Not everything justifies an arrest. It is deserving of every condemnation. It should be stopped. I asked Rabbi Dov Lior, he said it was immoral and wrong. We’re against it. But let’s stop slandering Israel. We’re all brothers, we’re all of the same people.”

This quote clearly shows that EVEN Ben Gvir condemns the assaults, calls them immoral, believes they should be stopped, and recommends education as an alternative to criminality. If you have a different quote, or, better yet, can find an original interview video, then bring it.

Also, Ben Gvir is JUST ONE PERSON, and continuing to use him, and only him (and occasionally Smotrich) to condemn the entire citizenry of Israel is disingenuous.

Let's recap. Spitting on Xians is:
  • a crime in Israel's Penal Code, specifically the crime of assault
  • subject to a penalty of two years imprisonment
  • condemned by the Prime Minister, the Police Chief, the Mayor and Deputy, MPs, AND Ben Gvir
  • reviled by the majority of the Israeli population
  • relatively rare still (though possibly increasing)
  • often lead to arrests and charges
This is the most thorough article I could find on the subject.

Specifically regarding the topic of this thread, only 5 Israelis have been "arrested" for publicity purposes and they were immediately released.
Only five Israelis EVER?! That is a rather outrageous claim. Do you have a source for that? Police records? Government statistics? Even just articles making that claim?

Or do you mean for the specific incident on October 4, 2023, in which one was arrested on the spot, and the other four investigated via film evidence, identified, and arrested later? Also, I can find no information at all that they were "immediately released". (They may have been, I have never looked into the explicit details of Israel's law enforcement policy on detention between charge and trial/sentencing, but I am aware that they make use of house arrest for some minor crimes). I can find numerous articles which confirm they were charged with assault.

It easy enough to find multiple articles of various dates with many recorded arrests, and these being only the well-reported incidents.

For the record, I don't believe for a second that you have actually investigated this topic with any thoroughness. I think you did a shallow search for "bad things Jews do". Because that's what you do.
Therefore, I dare you to show just one instance in which even one Israeli was actually punished for the growing epidemic of Israelis spitting on Christians.
Central Bureau of Statistics does not provide statistics specifically for assaults by spitting, only assaults generally. It would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to determine the number of convictions specifically for spitting.
 
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