Chris Matthews heated questions as Warren refuses to answer about tax hikes..

[iamwhatiseem]

Chris Matthews digs in and does not allow Warren to get away with rhetorical sound bytes. Nevertheless she never answers the question despite Matthews grilling over and over.

I get what Warren is trying to say, that between what you pay in premiums annnnnd....wait for it.... what you pay after a tax increase... she claims the cost will be lower (consequently Obama promised the same and we all know how ell that worked out)

Matthews has a VERY legitimate question...Warren tries to spin it against Republicans, and Matthews aptly corrects her saying no it isn't.... IT IS A REAL QUESTION!!.... she refuses to answer.
And she won't. She knows the death blow to a Presidential candidate is "raise taxes" when you have a government that blows $billions a year and always-always inflates cost of everything it involves itself in.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Matthews wants the Dimms to win and he will calll them out if he thinks they aren’t showing well.

He did it with Obama/Romney debates.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

We need a healthcare fix.
The current system absolutely sucks now. It was great for my family when I was raising my children, but today the deductibles along with the premiums have sky rocketed...at the same time cost for most care has declined. No one has a simple answer for that.
I thank God i am not raising a family now with $5000 plus deductible. At that time in my life that would have been a lot to swallow.
BUT....Medicare for all is a government program. And the simple fact is government programs - in this country - repeatedly RAISE cost not lower them.
I am sick of hearing Bernie drone on about Canada...we are not Canada. Our population is nothing like Canada, our entire economic system is different on every level. It is a comparison that is irrelevant.
And that is why Warren won't answer the question. If she won...she knows damn well whatever she says will come back and haunt her. So she just spins and dodges.

 

[pknopp]

We need a healthcare fix.
The current system absolutely sucks now. It was great for my family when I was raising my children, but today the deductibles along with the premiums have sky rocketed...at the same time cost for most care has declined. No one has a simple answer for that.
I thank God i am not raising a family now with $5000 plus deductible. At that time in my life that would have been a lot to swallow.
BUT....Medicare for all is a government program. And the simple fact is government programs - in this country - repeatedly RAISE cost not lower them.

Overall those on Medicare can afford for their care. There is waste, fraud and corruption in the system. Unfortunately it's in all systems today. Does it all need addressed? Absolutely.

I am sick of hearing Bernie drone on about Canada...we are not Canada. Our population is nothing like Canada, our entire economic system is different on every level. It is a comparison that is irrelevant.
And that is why Warren won't answer the question. If she won...she knows damn well whatever she says will come back and haunt her. So she just spins and dodges.

Every single first world country has a system that while not perfect costs far less than ours does. That is the point of bringing up other countries.

A prescription costs many times less in Canada than it does here.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

We need a healthcare fix.
The current system absolutely sucks now. It was great for my family when I was raising my children, but today the deductibles along with the premiums have sky rocketed...at the same time cost for most care has declined. No one has a simple answer for that.
I thank God i am not raising a family now with $5000 plus deductible. At that time in my life that would have been a lot to swallow.
BUT....Medicare for all is a government program. And the simple fact is government programs - in this country - repeatedly RAISE cost not lower them.
I am sick of hearing Bernie drone on about Canada...we are not Canada. Our population is nothing like Canada, our entire economic system is different on every level. It is a comparison that is irrelevant.
And that is why Warren won't answer the question. If she won...she knows damn well whatever she says will come back and haunt her. So she just spins and dodges.

The answer to fixing health care costs is to stop using insurance to pay for it with the exception of emergency care and to get rid of Medicare and Medicaid, but nobody wants to hear that.

 

[bendog]

Chris Matthews digs in and does not allow Warren to get away with rhetorical sound bytes. Nevertheless she never answers the question despite Matthews grilling over and over.

I get what Warren is trying to say, that between what you pay in premiums annnnnd....wait for it.... what you pay after a tax increase... she claims the cost will be lower (consequently Obama promised the same and we all know how ell that worked out)

Matthews has a VERY legitimate question...Warren tries to spin it against Republicans, and Matthews aptly corrects her saying no it isn't.... IT IS A REAL QUESTION!!.... she refuses to answer.
And she won't. She knows the death blow to a Presidential candidate is "raise taxes" when you have a government that blows $billions a year and always-always inflates cost of everything it involves itself in.

It's also a fundamental question. Insurors use copays and dedictables to control how much we consume. Obamacare for all its faults "gave us" two wellness visits with no deductables or copays. And that's why much of the bitching about premiums going up was …. well it was people who'd rather gamble without bloodpressure and cancer screenings than pay more.

But what Warren and Sanders want is a system where "the more you can consume/eat, the better it is." THAT is precisely the opposite of any free market. The gop whiffed on free market solutions, but this is pure socialism. Even MEDICARE HAS COPAYS.

 

[pknopp]

We need a healthcare fix.
The current system absolutely sucks now. It was great for my family when I was raising my children, but today the deductibles along with the premiums have sky rocketed...at the same time cost for most care has declined. No one has a simple answer for that.
I thank God i am not raising a family now with $5000 plus deductible. At that time in my life that would have been a lot to swallow.
BUT....Medicare for all is a government program. And the simple fact is government programs - in this country - repeatedly RAISE cost not lower them.
I am sick of hearing Bernie drone on about Canada...we are not Canada. Our population is nothing like Canada, our entire economic system is different on every level. It is a comparison that is irrelevant.
And that is why Warren won't answer the question. If she won...she knows damn well whatever she says will come back and haunt her. So she just spins and dodges.

The answer to fixing health care costs is to stop using insurance to pay for it with the exception of emergency care and to get rid of Medicare and Medicaid, but nobody wants to hear that.

Wall Street will be having none of that.

 

[pknopp]

Chris Matthews digs in and does not allow Warren to get away with rhetorical sound bytes. Nevertheless she never answers the question despite Matthews grilling over and over.

I get what Warren is trying to say, that between what you pay in premiums annnnnd....wait for it.... what you pay after a tax increase... she claims the cost will be lower (consequently Obama promised the same and we all know how ell that worked out)

Matthews has a VERY legitimate question...Warren tries to spin it against Republicans, and Matthews aptly corrects her saying no it isn't.... IT IS A REAL QUESTION!!.... she refuses to answer.
And she won't. She knows the death blow to a Presidential candidate is "raise taxes" when you have a government that blows $billions a year and always-always inflates cost of everything it involves itself in.

It's also a fundamental question. Insurors use copays and dedictables to control how much we consume. Obamacare for all its faults "gave us" two wellness visits with no deductables or copays. And that's why much of the bitching about premiums going up was …. well it was people who'd rather gamble without bloodpressure and cancer screenings than pay more.

But what Warren and Sanders want is a system where "the more you can consume/eat, the better it is." THAT is precisely the opposite of any free market. The gop whiffed on free market solutions, but this is pure socialism. Even MEDICARE HAS COPAYS.

Preventive is less expensive than dealing with something after it has become a problem.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Chris Matthews digs in and does not allow Warren to get away with rhetorical sound bytes. Nevertheless she never answers the question despite Matthews grilling over and over.

I get what Warren is trying to say, that between what you pay in premiums annnnnd....wait for it.... what you pay after a tax increase... she claims the cost will be lower (consequently Obama promised the same and we all know how ell that worked out)

Matthews has a VERY legitimate question...Warren tries to spin it against Republicans, and Matthews aptly corrects her saying no it isn't.... IT IS A REAL QUESTION!!.... she refuses to answer.
And she won't. She knows the death blow to a Presidential candidate is "raise taxes" when you have a government that blows $billions a year and always-always inflates cost of everything it involves itself in.

She’s as much intelligent as she is Indian.

 

[Foxfyre]

We need a healthcare fix.
The current system absolutely sucks now. It was great for my family when I was raising my children, but today the deductibles along with the premiums have sky rocketed...at the same time cost for most care has declined. No one has a simple answer for that.
I thank God i am not raising a family now with $5000 plus deductible. At that time in my life that would have been a lot to swallow.
BUT....Medicare for all is a government program. And the simple fact is government programs - in this country - repeatedly RAISE cost not lower them.
I am sick of hearing Bernie drone on about Canada...we are not Canada. Our population is nothing like Canada, our entire economic system is different on every level. It is a comparison that is irrelevant.
And that is why Warren won't answer the question. If she won...she knows damn well whatever she says will come back and haunt her. So she just spins and dodges.

Correct. The population of Canada is less than that of California alone, with roughly 80% of Canadians living in or near the largest cities in each province meaning roughly 7,400,000 Canadians live in small towns/rural areas.

By comparison, the USA has an area only very slightly smaller than Canada but a population 9 times larger--the USA is the 3rd largest nation by population in the world. Approximately 80% of Americans also live in or near the large urban areas leaving roughly 66 million Americans living in small towns/rural areas. That 20% or 66 million by itself would be the 23rd largest nation in the world, larger than 174 other countries.

The logistics and expense of a one-size-fits-all national healthcare plan to cover all the citizens (and illegals if the Democrats have their way) in the USA is mind numbingly staggering. As would be the size of the bureaucracy necessary to administer it. Considering how much of our national resources would be lost to bureaucratic costs not to mention error and fraud is also mind numbing. And would Congress and federal employees be exempt from it and keep their own Cadillac plans as they are exempt from Obamacare?

These are all inconvenient question Democrats are likely to duck and weave and dodge and run from as the campaign progresses.

 

[debbiedowner]

The average amount one spends on premiums for health insurance in the U.S. is approximately 6.5% of their income annually some pay more some less, but if Medicare for All ever happens and taxes increase 2% the average person has a gain of somewhere around 4.5%.

I myself would like to see 50 year old's be able to buy into Medicare and for under go back to the system we had before obamacare and you'd have to once again medically qualify but if you did your rates would be lower than today and if you couldn't qualify for pre existing conditions or certain conditions excluded then you could also buy into Medicare.

 

[georgephillip]

Chris Matthews digs in and does not allow Warren to get away with rhetorical sound bytes. Nevertheless she never answers the question despite Matthews grilling over and over.

I get what Warren is trying to say, that between what you pay in premiums annnnnd....wait for it.... what you pay after a tax increase... she claims the cost will be lower (consequently Obama promised the same and we all know how ell that worked out)

Matthews has a VERY legitimate question...Warren tries to spin it against Republicans, and Matthews aptly corrects her saying no it isn't.... IT IS A REAL QUESTION!!.... she refuses to answer.
And she won't. She knows the death blow to a Presidential candidate is "raise taxes" when you have a government that blows $billions a year and always-always inflates cost of everything it involves itself in.

Matthews has a VERY legitimate question...Warren tries to spin it against Republicans, and Matthews aptly corrects her saying no it isn't.... IT IS A REAL QUESTION!!.... she refuses to answer.

Possibly because the precise details haven't been determined yet; some middle class Americans will likely see a tax increase and others won't:

The Democratic Debate Over 'Medicare For All' And Middle-Class Taxes, Explained

"Tapper went on to ask other candidates to weigh in on the same question on taxes. Sanders envisions that those taxes would be replacing other health spending. The broader question here is how much people would end up spending in total on health care.

"The answer to that is hard to determine.

"The bill as laid out right now isn't very specific on how revenues would be raised, as the Kaiser Family Foundation's Larry Levitt told NPR.

"'What would happen to the middle class depends entirely on the details. Under the current Medicare for All proposals, middle-class people would have no premiums, deductibles or copays, and save a lot of money on health care,' he said. 'Whether they would pay more or less on net would depend on which taxes go up to pay for the plan.'"

 

[BluesLegend]

We need a healthcare fix.
The current system absolutely sucks now. It was great for my family when I was raising my children, but today the deductibles along with the premiums have sky rocketed...at the same time cost for most care has declined. No one has a simple answer for that.
I thank God i am not raising a family now with $5000 plus deductible. At that time in my life that would have been a lot to swallow.
BUT....Medicare for all is a government program. And the simple fact is government programs - in this country - repeatedly RAISE cost not lower them.
I am sick of hearing Bernie drone on about Canada...we are not Canada. Our population is nothing like Canada, our entire economic system is different on every level. It is a comparison that is irrelevant.
And that is why Warren won't answer the question. If she won...she knows damn well whatever she says will come back and haunt her. So she just spins and dodges.

You have to pay a sky high deductible to subsidize the deadbeat moochers and illegals.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

We need a healthcare fix.
The current system absolutely sucks now. It was great for my family when I was raising my children, but today the deductibles along with the premiums have sky rocketed...at the same time cost for most care has declined. No one has a simple answer for that.
I thank God i am not raising a family now with $5000 plus deductible. At that time in my life that would have been a lot to swallow.
BUT....Medicare for all is a government program. And the simple fact is government programs - in this country - repeatedly RAISE cost not lower them.

Overall those on Medicare can afford for their care. There is waste, fraud and corruption in the system. Unfortunately it's in all systems today. Does it all need addressed? Absolutely.

I am sick of hearing Bernie drone on about Canada...we are not Canada. Our population is nothing like Canada, our entire economic system is different on every level. It is a comparison that is irrelevant.
And that is why Warren won't answer the question. If she won...she knows damn well whatever she says will come back and haunt her. So she just spins and dodges.

Every single first world country has a system that while not perfect costs far less than ours does. That is the point of bringing up other countries.

A prescription costs many times less in Canada than it does here.

You don't get away with that.
As actually (and surprisingly) one Democrat candidate brought up - Americans are fat and unhealthy. Just under 70% of healthcare costs can be attributed to high fat/salt/sugar diets. We could cut the costs of healthcare dramatically if we ate better.
No other nation eats the sugar laden/processed foods that we eat.
THAT is why our costs are so high.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Chris Matthews digs in and does not allow Warren to get away with rhetorical sound bytes. Nevertheless she never answers the question despite Matthews grilling over and over.

I get what Warren is trying to say, that between what you pay in premiums annnnnd....wait for it.... what you pay after a tax increase... she claims the cost will be lower (consequently Obama promised the same and we all know how ell that worked out)

Matthews has a VERY legitimate question...Warren tries to spin it against Republicans, and Matthews aptly corrects her saying no it isn't.... IT IS A REAL QUESTION!!.... she refuses to answer.
And she won't. She knows the death blow to a Presidential candidate is "raise taxes" when you have a government that blows $billions a year and always-always inflates cost of everything it involves itself in.

Matthews has a VERY legitimate question...Warren tries to spin it against Republicans, and Matthews aptly corrects her saying no it isn't.... IT IS A REAL QUESTION!!.... she refuses to answer.

Possibly because the precise details haven't been determined yet; some middle class Americans will likely see a tax increase and others won't:

The Democratic Debate Over 'Medicare For All' And Middle-Class Taxes, Explained

"Tapper went on to ask other candidates to weigh in on the same question on taxes. Sanders envisions that those taxes would be replacing other health spending. The broader question here is how much people would end up spending in total on health care.

"The answer to that is hard to determine.

"The bill as laid out right now isn't very specific on how revenues would be raised, as the Kaiser Family Foundation's Larry Levitt told NPR.

"'What would happen to the middle class depends entirely on the details. Under the current Medicare for All proposals, middle-class people would have no premiums, deductibles or copays, and save a lot of money on health care,' he said. 'Whether they would pay more or less on net would depend on which taxes go up to pay for the plan.'"

So you agree with me then.
Thanks.
We cannot pass a bill, or even consider it until revenue/expenses are spelled out. Democrats are not - AT ALL- interested in doing that exercise because they know what they would see. You would see almost half the country getting free to almost free care while the middle class pays for it.

 

[Jitss617]

Shes done nothing in Massachusetts

 

[iamwhatiseem]

In the near future..... Presidential Debate between Democrat and Trump:

D - "Medicare for all - Medicare for all"
Trump - "How are you going to pay for tripling Medicare costs?"
D - "Tax the rich! Tax the rich!"
T - "You already know that we could tax every $billionaire and $millionaire 100% of their income and it would barely scratch the surface of that...how are you going to pay for it"?
D - ...looks around the room... "Russian collusion"!!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We need a healthcare fix.
The current system absolutely sucks now. It was great for my family when I was raising my children, but today the deductibles along with the premiums have sky rocketed...at the same time cost for most care has declined. No one has a simple answer for that.
I thank God i am not raising a family now with $5000 plus deductible. At that time in my life that would have been a lot to swallow.
BUT....Medicare for all is a government program. And the simple fact is government programs - in this country - repeatedly RAISE cost not lower them.
I am sick of hearing Bernie drone on about Canada...we are not Canada. Our population is nothing like Canada, our entire economic system is different on every level. It is a comparison that is irrelevant.
And that is why Warren won't answer the question. If she won...she knows damn well whatever she says will come back and haunt her. So she just spins and dodges.

The answer to fixing health care costs is to stop using insurance to pay for it with the exception of emergency care and to get rid of Medicare and Medicaid, but nobody wants to hear that.

Wall Street will be having none of that.

Taxing the middle class so that Illegals get free healthcare...how is that not a winning strategy??

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"Free healthcare for Illegals" is a campaign promise designed to get Illegals to vote democrat

 

[OldLady]

We need a healthcare fix.
The current system absolutely sucks now. It was great for my family when I was raising my children, but today the deductibles along with the premiums have sky rocketed...at the same time cost for most care has declined. No one has a simple answer for that.
I thank God i am not raising a family now with $5000 plus deductible. At that time in my life that would have been a lot to swallow.
BUT....Medicare for all is a government program. And the simple fact is government programs - in this country - repeatedly RAISE cost not lower them.
I am sick of hearing Bernie drone on about Canada...we are not Canada. Our population is nothing like Canada, our entire economic system is different on every level. It is a comparison that is irrelevant.
And that is why Warren won't answer the question. If she won...she knows damn well whatever she says will come back and haunt her. So she just spins and dodges.

The answer to fixing health care costs is to stop using insurance to pay for it with the exception of emergency care and to get rid of Medicare and Medicaid, but nobody wants to hear that.

Unfortunately, you are probably right. Insurance is considered "deep pockets" and everyone who could, starting with doctors and hospitals and medical equipment suppliers and drug companies, jumped on board and sucked them dry. Now we're in trouble but some people got rich. Welcome to America.