Chinese Virologist Makes Chilling Admission About the Wuhan Lab

[badger2]

Duh.....

Kamala swore her in.

https://moonofalabama.org/status/2023/02/the-context-of-the-new-anti-china-campaign.html#more

'....Post notes: Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines....next week.'

 

[badger2]

leave out 'https://'

 

[badger2]

The Elf rewarded Andersen:

 

[Kilroy2]

Don't you mean scientific circles who refused and still refuse to hear any debate on the subject?

scientific debate always has two sides. It will lead to a consensus. It means using data that most experts will come to a conclusion based on the data. Verifiable data is the preferred method. The origins are believed to be bats, based on available data. They present two factual points to back this up. Clearly they do state that its a likely cause of the origin. If evidence is provided then it will change. Those who believe that it was man made hang their hat on one premises that they cannot explain. SO they come up with a explanation which is that it must be manmade. That in itself is a theory as they do not provide any proof that it was manmade or came from this lab in WUHAN. So they spread this conclusion to those who seek that conclusion which is a segment of the general public.

It really is just another version of the environmental debate. One side will point to the North and the other side will point to the South.

Unless the Chinese admit that it was manmade , then it can never be proven.

 

[Esdraelon]

Nothing will be done

You're probably correct and that means they may very well do it again. They should be served a notice from the world that the next time some scourge appears there first then goes on to kill millions, we plan to erase the germ factory - and the rest of Beijing - with nuclear fire.

 

[Delldude]

scientific debate always has two sides. It will lead to a consensus. It means using data that most experts will come to a conclusion based on the data. Verifiable data is the preferred method. The origins are believed to be bats, based on available data. They present two factual points to back this up. Clearly they do state that its a likely cause of the origin. If evidence is provided then it will change. Those who believe that it was man made hang their hat on one premises that they cannot explain. SO they come up with a explanation which is that it must be manmade. That in itself is a theory as they do not provide any proof that it was manmade or came from this lab in WUHAN. So they spread this conclusion to those who seek that conclusion which is a segment of the general public.

It really is just another version of the environmental debate. One side will point to the North and the other side will point to the South.

Unless the Chinese admit that it was manmade , then it can never be proven.

Unfortunately two sided debate was shut down several years ago and there still is an active move to continue that way.
The proven issue is it is a virus that has been enhanced in the lab. Two of Fauci's boys proved it and told Fauci they were convinced it was a lab creation, not occurring in nature. Fauci's response was to threaten them with a loss of lab grants, and suddenly, they saw it differently.
I saw a video by some woman who is highly regarded for her work in virology, She said that the amino acid concentration in the virus was 100%, and said this doesn't occur in nature, it was enhanced.
Another certainty was Horseshoe bats weren't sold in the Wuhan market.

True, the Chinese will never admit it, to do so would show their form of gov't has failed.

 

[marvin martian]

You didn't ask me for an opinion. You asked what the source was.

Again, I don't know and neither do you.

So, do you have an opinion?

 

[Esdraelon]

Unless the Chinese admit that it was manmade , then it can never be proven.

Many wars have begun for lesser offenses. That's why the CCP needs to be called before the rest of the world and warned, in VERY CLEAR LANGUAGE, that if another "zoonotic" bat virus just happens to jump and begin spreading in their population, it would be well for them to do everything in their power to seal their borders and to allow international inspectors to review the data such an event would generate.
To this day, they have consistently impeded any investigations on the ground or even allowed their data to be analyzed. You're correct, they will never admit it and our government won't demand it of them. IMO, DC took part in this evil.

 

[Catsnmeters]

So, do you have an opinion?

It cam from China would be my guess.

 

[Esdraelon]

The proven issue is it is a virus that has been enhanced in the lab. Two of Fauci's boys proved it and told Fauci they were convinced it was a lab creation, not occurring in nature.

I think you're spot on with this^ and this whole pandemic was facilitated and the outrages against freedom enhanced by the neo-tribalism in our country today. When you can stir enough anger and hatred between groups, you can get away with ANYTHING.

The schism has gotten severe enough that a CCP official could admit that they created it and used it against us and there would still be a huge part of the population that would call it a lie. Hell, there are still mask-zombies among us.

 

[Kilroy2]

Unless they admit it then one would need certainty. Language used by everyone such as likely is an admission that there is no certainty. They may be right or they may be wrong.

 

[Esdraelon]

Probably get a that's all in the past!

Yep... right up 'til the point where it's NOT in the past any longer. As in, we see another zoonotic jump that spreads like a wildfire and this time has a CFR of 10-20% as opposed to Sars-Cov-2 having less than 1%. People today just don't think such a massive die-off could occur but it not only CAN, it WILL at some point. Frankly, I'd prefer something like Ebola or Marburg rather than a respiratory virus that suffocates me slowly.

 

[beagle9]

Chinese Virologist Makes Chilling Admission About the Wuhan Lab

Breaking News

www.analyzingamerica.org

Appearing on Fox News, Chinese virologist Dr. Li-Meng Yan claims that not only did COVID-19 originate from a lab, but that the leak “was not an accident.”

“Of course, it was not an accident,” the virologist said. “I can tell you based on the protocol and also the other surveillance system it will be impossible for the lab leak accidentally happen in such a lab and also cause the Wuhan outbreak and also the pandemic.”

Well, hmmm that's what many, and I mean many believe that the leak was from the lab, and it even goes as far as people thinking that it was possible that it was done somehow on purpose, but what would be the motivation for it to be done on purpose(?), and by whom was it done on purpose by or for whom was it done for or against, otherwise if there was any possibility that such a thing were to be true ??

All circumstantial, but there is definitely a case that should be reviewed, especially if any such evidence becomes overwhelmingly strong, and convincing.

Not sure how China could help in such a case, otherwise it couldn't if it's government was somehow alledgedly involved in some sort of international plot. Let's pray that it wasn't involved in something bad, and that the leak was an accident. If it was an accident, then China needs to verify the type of virus that was leaked.

Was it all political, otherwise would force's align themselves in such a way that figured on reshaping the political world somehow afterwards, otherwise if it was all a plot of some kind ? Hope not, because that would be bad.

Let's hope for the best, otherwise that it may have been leaked from the lab, but rather it was an accident that Chinese official's figured would cause tremendous backlash and ramifications because of, so it chose to cover it up maybe ?

 

[badger2]

Retrovirus sequences found in SARS2 almost identical to an HIV sequence have already been posted to USMB.
One DOE connection is here, not far from Baric's bat lab:
Jun 2019 Lawrence Livermore National Lab / UNC Chapel Hill / HIV

Deep latency: A new insight into a functional HIV cure - PubMed

Latent HIV reservoir is the main obstacle that prevents a cure for HIV-1 (HIV). While antiretroviral therapy is effective in controlling viral replication, it cannot eliminate latent HIV reservoirs in patients. Several strategies have been proposed to combat HIV latency, including bone marrow...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[beagle9]

scientific debate always has two sides. It will lead to a consensus. It means using data that most experts will come to a conclusion based on the data. Verifiable data is the preferred method. The origins are believed to be bats, based on available data. They present two factual points to back this up. Clearly they do state that its a likely cause of the origin. If evidence is provided then it will change. Those who believe that it was man made hang their hat on one premises that they cannot explain. SO they come up with a explanation which is that it must be manmade. That in itself is a theory as they do not provide any proof that it was manmade or came from this lab in WUHAN. So they spread this conclusion to those who seek that conclusion which is a segment of the general public.

It really is just another version of the environmental debate. One side will point to the North and the other side will point to the South.

Unless the Chinese admit that it was manmade , then it can never be proven.

Our hands being involved in that lab needs to be verified in a hearing, and then to what level of involvement were we involved in that lab ??

 

[frigidweirdo]

Really, so one of the most oppressive population control countries, in History, would not unleash covid, I don't smoke but if I did I would like some of whatever it is you smoke.

Well there's a non-answer.

 

[badger2]

Comparison of SARS1 & 2 and the HIV sequences are here:
26 Jul 2021 Post #531

Poll: Do You Agree With Dr. Rand Paul That Dr. Anthony Fauci Lied to Congress Regarding NIH Funding Gain of Function Research in Wuhan?

Why do you need to fantasize just because you can't contrive any legitimate scientific source that corroborates Randy's hysteria? If you cannot accept credible, expert commentary, that is not my problem. This response is why conversation with leftists is impossible

www.usmessageboard.com

BLAST search results are in Table 1.

 

[scruffy]

Yet your above rants clearly state your level of evolution. Certifiable republican. Yet if you can make a point then I will revise my opinion.

You're just showing the world what a STUPID bunch of fucktards partisan leftwits are.

You dumb fuckers don't care about reality, you just care about what you believe.

You just proved it, to the whole entire world. Congratulations.

 

[Delldude]

I think you're spot on with this^ and this whole pandemic was facilitated and the outrages against freedom enhanced by the neo-tribalism in our country today. When you can stir enough anger and hatred between groups, you can get away with ANYTHING.

The schism has gotten severe enough that a CCP official could admit that they created it and used it against us and there would still be a huge part of the population that would call it a lie. Hell, there are still mask-zombies among us.

Or even admit they caused it.

 

[Frankenstein]

Well, hmmm that's what many, and I mean many believe that the leak was from the lab, and it even goes as far as people thinking that it was possible that it was done somehow on purpose, but what would be the motivation for it to be done on purpose(?), and by whom was it done on purpose by or for whom was it done for or against, otherwise if there was any possibility that such a thing were to be true ??

All circumstantial, but there is definitely a case that should be reviewed, especially if any such evidence becomes overwhelmingly strong, and convincing.

Not sure how China could help in such a case, otherwise it couldn't if it's government was somehow alledgedly involved in some sort of international plot. Let's pray that it wasn't involved in something bad, and that the leak was an accident. If it was an accident, then China needs to verify the type of virus that was leaked.

Was it all political, otherwise would force's align themselves in such a way that figured on reshaping the political world somehow afterwards, otherwise if it was all a plot of some kind ? Hope not, because that would be bad.

Let's hope for the best, otherwise that it may have been leaked from the lab, but rather it was an accident that Chinese official's figured would cause tremendous backlash and ramifications because of, so it chose to cover it up maybe ?

I believe the Ukraine bio labs had something to do with it's origin!