Chinese Stock Market Also Took A Dump Today

[Cellblock2429]

/——/ Libtards love China’s slave labor who earn 30 cents an hour. It means they can buy cheap shirts to wear while marching for $15 hour minimum wage. No irony here folks.

How much of your budget is shirts? Or TV's.

Here's the thing... a whole lot of people who made a profit on that shirt before you paid $30.00 for it when it cost maybe 2.00 to make. Then when that shirt does't fit anymore, we give it to a charity that ships it off to a third world country even poorer than China.

/——/ Oh you’re 100% correct. American made clothes fit better and last longer and I avoid the imported crap as much as possible. Sadly the last US TV manufacturer, Philco, moved overseas decades ago.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Trump Wins! MAGA!!

Chinese stocks fell on Monday as market sentiment turned cautious amid renewed concerns over the US-China trade war, with financial institutions leading the decline.

The Shanghai Composite Index fell 1.2 per cent to 2,903.71. The Shenzhen Component Index lost 1.4 per cent, and the CSI 300, which tracks large companies listed in Shanghai and Shenzhen, dropped 1.7 per cent. The Nasdaq-style ChiNext Index declined 2 per cent.

China markets fall as trade war deadlock prompts cautious trading

Theirs went down 1.2%, all of ours went down twice that much and you call it a win! Only a Trump asslicker would call that a win

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You can't gauge anything based on a one day stock market reaction.

I am not the one that started the thread.

Can we gauge things on 476 days in the stock market?

Since the day of the first tariffs...476 day ago...

DJI down 2.87%
S&P up 0.06%
NASDAQ up 7.17%.

Do those seem like good numbers for more than 15 months of time?

Those are numbers are OK given how strong the market has been over the last few years, the Fed interest rate policy changes, and uncertainty about China. In my experience, the market does not monotonically increase every year.

Those numbers seem good? are you fucking joking or are you fucking stupid?

Here is some historical perspective for you.

In the 476 days before the start of the trade war the three markets did this...

DJI up 42.40%
S&P up 29.61%
NASDAQ up 39.15%

Now, for someone wanting to make money and not just suck up to the current POTUS, which group of numbers seem better to you?

/——/ The first thing I learned about investing was: Three thing drive the stock market, fear, greed and uncertainty.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Theirs went down 1.2%, all of ours went down twice that much and you call it a win! Only a Trump asslicker would call that a win

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You can't gauge anything based on a one day stock market reaction.

I am not the one that started the thread.

Can we gauge things on 476 days in the stock market?

Since the day of the first tariffs...476 day ago...

DJI down 2.87%
S&P up 0.06%
NASDAQ up 7.17%.

Do those seem like good numbers for more than 15 months of time?

Those are numbers are OK given how strong the market has been over the last few years, the Fed interest rate policy changes, and uncertainty about China. In my experience, the market does not monotonically increase every year.

Those numbers seem good? are you fucking joking or are you fucking stupid?

Here is some historical perspective for you.

In the 476 days before the start of the trade war the three markets did this...

DJI up 42.40%
S&P up 29.61%
NASDAQ up 39.15%

Now, for someone wanting to make money and not just suck up to the current POTUS, which group of numbers seem better to you?

/——/ The first thing I learned about investing was: Three thing drive the stock market, fear, greed and uncertainty.

Non sequitur much?


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[Cellblock2429]

You can't gauge anything based on a one day stock market reaction.

I am not the one that started the thread.

Can we gauge things on 476 days in the stock market?

Since the day of the first tariffs...476 day ago...

DJI down 2.87%
S&P up 0.06%
NASDAQ up 7.17%.

Do those seem like good numbers for more than 15 months of time?

Those are numbers are OK given how strong the market has been over the last few years, the Fed interest rate policy changes, and uncertainty about China. In my experience, the market does not monotonically increase every year.

Those numbers seem good? are you fucking joking or are you fucking stupid?

Here is some historical perspective for you.

In the 476 days before the start of the trade war the three markets did this...

DJI up 42.40%
S&P up 29.61%
NASDAQ up 39.15%

Now, for someone wanting to make money and not just suck up to the current POTUS, which group of numbers seem better to you?

/——/ The first thing I learned about investing was: Three thing drive the stock market, fear, greed and uncertainty.

Non sequitur much?


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/——/ Let me dumb it down for you. Yesterday’s sell off was driven by fear and uncertainty over the trade war. Today the futures are up because of greed. I sold 1,000 shares of an ETF on Monday. This morning I can buy back 1,030 shares with the same money. Today oil prices jumped because of greed. Iran is attacking commercial shipping. Savy that?

 

[Likkmee]

I am not the one that started the thread.

Can we gauge things on 476 days in the stock market?

Since the day of the first tariffs...476 day ago...

DJI down 2.87%
S&P up 0.06%
NASDAQ up 7.17%.

Do those seem like good numbers for more than 15 months of time?

Those are numbers are OK given how strong the market has been over the last few years, the Fed interest rate policy changes, and uncertainty about China. In my experience, the market does not monotonically increase every year.

Those numbers seem good? are you fucking joking or are you fucking stupid?

Here is some historical perspective for you.

In the 476 days before the start of the trade war the three markets did this...

DJI up 42.40%
S&P up 29.61%
NASDAQ up 39.15%

Now, for someone wanting to make money and not just suck up to the current POTUS, which group of numbers seem better to you?

/——/ The first thing I learned about investing was: Three thing drive the stock market, fear, greed and uncertainty.

Non sequitur much?


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/——/ Let me dumb it down for you. Yesterday’s sell off was driven by fear and uncertainty over the trade war. Today the futures are up because of greed. I sold 1,000 shares of an ETF on Monday. This morning I can buy back 1,030 shares with the same money. Today oil prices jumped because of greed. Iran is attacking commercial shipping. Savy that?

There are over 7 billion people on this dirt turd. The only ones that can supply the vast majority are various Asian nations and the USA's habitual throw away mentality. You can go from south of Texas to Chile and everywhere you look is "Ropa Americana". Calvins, Wranglers and Levis that have never been worn. $3 pants and $2 fine dress shirts, some with original price tags ( which I have made into short sleeved and short pants by my housekeeper)
If the US vanished tomorrow everyone else would still survive. Bootleg Levis( Vietnam/Cambodia) are about $12 a pair here

 

[Cellblock2429]

Those are numbers are OK given how strong the market has been over the last few years, the Fed interest rate policy changes, and uncertainty about China. In my experience, the market does not monotonically increase every year.

Those numbers seem good? are you fucking joking or are you fucking stupid?

Here is some historical perspective for you.

In the 476 days before the start of the trade war the three markets did this...

DJI up 42.40%
S&P up 29.61%
NASDAQ up 39.15%

Now, for someone wanting to make money and not just suck up to the current POTUS, which group of numbers seem better to you?

/——/ The first thing I learned about investing was: Three thing drive the stock market, fear, greed and uncertainty.

Non sequitur much?


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/——/ Let me dumb it down for you. Yesterday’s sell off was driven by fear and uncertainty over the trade war. Today the futures are up because of greed. I sold 1,000 shares of an ETF on Monday. This morning I can buy back 1,030 shares with the same money. Today oil prices jumped because of greed. Iran is attacking commercial shipping. Savy that?

There are over 7 billion people on this dirt turd. The only ones that can supply the vast majority are various Asian nations and the USA's habitual throw away mentality. You can go from south of Texas to Chile and everywhere you look is "Ropa Americana". Calvins, Wranglers and Levis that have never been worn. $3 pants and $2 fine dress shirts, some with original price tags ( which I have made into short sleeved and short pants by my housekeeper)
If the US vanished tomorrow everyone else would still survive. Bootleg Levis( Vietnam/Cambodia) are about $12 a pair here

/-----/ "If the US vanished tomorrow everyone else would still survive."
Yes, but as a communist slave state.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I am not the one that started the thread.

Can we gauge things on 476 days in the stock market?

Since the day of the first tariffs...476 day ago...

DJI down 2.87%
S&P up 0.06%
NASDAQ up 7.17%.

Do those seem like good numbers for more than 15 months of time?

Those are numbers are OK given how strong the market has been over the last few years, the Fed interest rate policy changes, and uncertainty about China. In my experience, the market does not monotonically increase every year.

Those numbers seem good? are you fucking joking or are you fucking stupid?

Here is some historical perspective for you.

In the 476 days before the start of the trade war the three markets did this...

DJI up 42.40%
S&P up 29.61%
NASDAQ up 39.15%

Now, for someone wanting to make money and not just suck up to the current POTUS, which group of numbers seem better to you?

/——/ The first thing I learned about investing was: Three thing drive the stock market, fear, greed and uncertainty.

Non sequitur much?


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/——/ Let me dumb it down for you. Yesterday’s sell off was driven by fear and uncertainty over the trade war. Today the futures are up because of greed. I sold 1,000 shares of an ETF on Monday. This morning I can buy back 1,030 shares with the same money. Today oil prices jumped because of greed. Iran is attacking commercial shipping. Savy that?

I am not talking about a single day dumbfuck, I am talking about the last 30 months, 15 of which were good and 15 of which have been stagnant.

Do try and keep up.


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[AzogtheDefiler]

Not better but sell it cheaper. And stop stalking me, you Jew hating loser.

Stop saying stupid stuff I can make fun of so easily.

Okay, funny thing. Growing up, we had one of those wonderful American TV sets. Pretty much broke down on a regular basis. Remembering the good old days of having to go to the corner store and testing the tubes and buying replacements.

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Ah, memories.

Anyway... Getting out on my own, I bought a Toshiba TV in the 1990's.. and it was still working pretty well in the late Oughts before it finally failed. I bought another TV, it lasted for decade as well. The reason I got rid of it was all the new shows were coming out in widescreen format, and I wasn't getting the whole picture. The TV itself worked fine, and I'm kind of old school, I don't replace things until they break.

Now I have a flat screen, made somewhere in China by someone... probably going to last longer than I do.

That is absolutely false. Everything is made to break these days. Such as washers, dryers and fridges. They are made cheaper but don’t last nearly asking. My parents had a Kenmore washer and dryer set that lasted for 25+ years. Now everything is made like crap in China and lasts maybe seven years. My Volvo also made in China and has had some issues. Their products are cheaper but not better. You’re senile.

 

[toobfreak]

Who says any of that has to be, jackass? When will you stop with your God Damned strawman arguments here? This is a trade war. Trump is sticking it to the damn Chinese for decades of screwing us to the wall on trade and you think our market is supposed to doing raving well at the same time too? Grow the hell up!

Yes, it is a trade war, and it is a war that was just as necessary as the Iraq war...NOT AT ALL.

We did not need a trade war, especially not one with the whole fucking world at the same time.

We are told by our politicians that China is screwing us...

yet while we are being screwed all these things took place...

1. the longest period of sustained job growth in the history of the country.

2. The 2nd longest period of economic expansion in the history of the country, which will become the longest in 3 months.

3. Sub 4% unemployment with more jobs than people to fill them.

4. Record setting financial markets...until the start of the trade war.

That does not seem like getting screwed, that seems like we are doing pretty damn well. If we are the ones getting screwed, why is our economy the one that is booming?

Not to mention that so far the only "success" we have seen from Trump is the new NAFTA, and the biggest change about it was the new name.

/——/ Libtards love China’s slave labor who earn 30 cents an hour. It means they can buy cheap shirts to wear while marching for $15 hour minimum wage. No irony here folks.
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All of our armchair economists here have lost sight of what this is truly about. We are told America is a consumer. They forget that the USA used to be the preeminent supplier to much of the world. And we made the best.

95% of the world population lives OUTSIDE the USA. People are what consumes. With only 5% of the people, we simply cannot afford to supply only to ourselves. Trade imbalance has been used against us for a long time to give other parts of the world the ability to develop at our expense. We need that free trade, fair trade that was the cornerstone of what Trump ran on, how he was going to "Make America Great Again" to open up our manufacturing to give us fair access to compete better on the world market again.

Right now, we are at a total disadvantage where we are held down mainly just a BUYER, a consumer from others, we take what we get from others, while they prosper. We need that back too if we are to generate the kind of money we need to rebuild our cities and infrastructure.

 

[JoeB131]

/——/ Oh you’re 100% correct. American made clothes fit better and last longer and I avoid the imported crap as much as possible. Sadly the last US TV manufacturer, Philco, moved overseas decades ago.

Yes, it did.. Why do you think that is?

You see, you are kind of hitting on the main problem with Trump's policy. He wants to punish American consumers for choosing Chinese products. What we need to be doing is finding ways to make American industry more competitive.

Instead, Trump has put on the "Redneck Tax", but the rednecks are too stupid to realize they are the ones being punished.

MAGA!!!!!

 

[JoeB131]

That is absolutely false. Everything is made to break these days. Such as washers, dryers and fridges. They are made cheaper but don’t last nearly asking. My parents had a Kenmore washer and dryer set that lasted for 25+ years. Now everything is made like crap in China and lasts maybe seven years. My Volvo also made in China and has had some issues. Their products are cheaper but not better. You’re senile.

What are you doing buying a Volvo made in China? Aren't you kind of the problem?

I'm on my fifth car in 35 years. All "American" cars from Ford. (Although one of them was assembled in Mexico. Ironically, it was the most durable, lasting me 14 years)

My first car was an American made Chevy Chevette. It had a sewing machine for an engine and broke down on a regular basis.

 

[JoeB131]

All of our armchair economists here have lost sight of what this is truly about. We are told America is a consumer. They forget that the USA used to be the preeminent supplier to much of the world. And we made the best.

95% of the world population lives OUTSIDE the USA. People are what consumes. With only 5% of the people, we simply cannot afford to supply only to ourselves. Trade imbalance has been used against us for a long time to give other parts of the world the ability to develop at our expense. We need that free trade, fair trade that was the cornerstone of what Trump ran on, how he was going to "Make America Great Again" to open up our manufacturing to give us fair access to compete better on the world market again.

Right now, we are at a total disadvantage where we are held down mainly just a BUYER, a consumer from others, we take what we get from others, while they prosper. We need that back too if we are to generate the kind of money we need to rebuild our cities and infrastructure.

Okay, this is kind of in the right direction. SO how did we lose that edge.

Well, after WWII, we had a huge advantage, in that we were the only country whose major cities weren't reduced to rubble. The thing that happened was our manufacturers got complacent. While the Germans and Japanese were devising ways to make things cheaper and better, we kept doing the same things we were always doing.

So while guys like my Dad would never have bought a Japanese car because he was still pissed off about Pearl Harbor, people of my generation maybe bought that Chevette or that Escort or that Pinto, which turned out to be a piece of crap as a starter car, before moving on to a Toyota or a Volkswagen that turned out to be pretty reliable.

"I know. Let's cut the wages of the guys assembling the cars! That'll do it!"

 

[Cellblock2429]

/——/ Oh you’re 100% correct. American made clothes fit better and last longer and I avoid the imported crap as much as possible. Sadly the last US TV manufacturer, Philco, moved overseas decades ago.

Yes, it did.. Why do you think that is?

You see, you are kind of hitting on the main problem with Trump's policy. He wants to punish American consumers for choosing Chinese products. What we need to be doing is finding ways to make American industry more competitive.

Instead, Trump has put on the "Redneck Tax", but the rednecks are too stupid to realize they are the ones being punished.

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MAGA!!!!!

/——/ The putative environmental regulations, labor laws and tax burdens pushed the manufacturers overseas.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Those are numbers are OK given how strong the market has been over the last few years, the Fed interest rate policy changes, and uncertainty about China. In my experience, the market does not monotonically increase every year.

Those numbers seem good? are you fucking joking or are you fucking stupid?

Here is some historical perspective for you.

In the 476 days before the start of the trade war the three markets did this...

DJI up 42.40%
S&P up 29.61%
NASDAQ up 39.15%

Now, for someone wanting to make money and not just suck up to the current POTUS, which group of numbers seem better to you?

/——/ The first thing I learned about investing was: Three thing drive the stock market, fear, greed and uncertainty.

Non sequitur much?


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/——/ Let me dumb it down for you. Yesterday’s sell off was driven by fear and uncertainty over the trade war. Today the futures are up because of greed. I sold 1,000 shares of an ETF on Monday. This morning I can buy back 1,030 shares with the same money. Today oil prices jumped because of greed. Iran is attacking commercial shipping. Savy that?

I am not talking about a single day dumbfuck, I am talking about the last 30 months, 15 of which were good and 15 of which have been stagnant.

Do try and keep up.


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/—-/ I gave an example of the fluctuations in the market and how investors take advantage of it. Apparently you think the markers should be perpetually moving up. I doubt you invest much. Now run along and play with your friends.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

That is absolutely false. Everything is made to break these days. Such as washers, dryers and fridges. They are made cheaper but don’t last nearly asking. My parents had a Kenmore washer and dryer set that lasted for 25+ years. Now everything is made like crap in China and lasts maybe seven years. My Volvo also made in China and has had some issues. Their products are cheaper but not better. You’re senile.

What are you doing buying a Volvo made in China? Aren't you kind of the problem?

I'm on my fifth car in 35 years. All "American" cars from Ford. (Although one of them was assembled in Mexico. Ironically, it was the most durable, lasting me 14 years)

My first car was an American made Chevy Chevette. It had a sewing machine for an engine and broke down on a regular basis.

I am Kicking myself because I didnt research Enough. I thought it was Swiss made still.

 

[Cellblock2429]

That is absolutely false. Everything is made to break these days. Such as washers, dryers and fridges. They are made cheaper but don’t last nearly asking. My parents had a Kenmore washer and dryer set that lasted for 25+ years. Now everything is made like crap in China and lasts maybe seven years. My Volvo also made in China and has had some issues. Their products are cheaper but not better. You’re senile.

What are you doing buying a Volvo made in China? Aren't you kind of the problem?

I'm on my fifth car in 35 years. All "American" cars from Ford. (Although one of them was assembled in Mexico. Ironically, it was the most durable, lasting me 14 years)

My first car was an American made Chevy Chevette. It had a sewing machine for an engine and broke down on a regular basis.

I am Kicking myself because I didnt research Enough. I thought it was Swiss made still.

/----/ I have 2 Volvos and there were never made in Switzerland. And what difference does it make when the parts used to build them are manufactured all over the world?
Where Are Volvos Manufactured?
Most of Volvo's vehicles are produced in Sweden, where the company was founded. Other countries that produce Volvo vehicles include Belgium, Malaysia and China..

 

[The Banker]

/——/ Oh you’re 100% correct. American made clothes fit better and last longer and I avoid the imported crap as much as possible. Sadly the last US TV manufacturer, Philco, moved overseas decades ago.

Yes, it did.. Why do you think that is?

You see, you are kind of hitting on the main problem with Trump's policy. He wants to punish American consumers for choosing Chinese products. What we need to be doing is finding ways to make American industry more competitive.

Instead, Trump has put on the "Redneck Tax", but the rednecks are too stupid to realize they are the ones being punished.

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MAGA!!!!!

/——/ The putative environmental regulations, labor laws and tax burdens pushed the manufacturers overseas.

Cheap labor cost pushed the manufacturers overseas, they pay the workers 10-25% what they pay US workers, which produces massive savings.

No US worker will work for $3/hour.

You seem to incorrectly think the the US is stronger with more minimum wage jobs. False, the US is substantially wealthy and stronger with more high paying advanced jobs. If your job skills are on par with some illiterate in a 3rd world country you have a problem, and that is your own fault.

Would you rather pay $40k for a car or $43k? $80 for an air conditioner, or $150? That's a no-brainer- have fun trying to win that argument...

 

[Cellblock2429]

/——/ Oh you’re 100% correct. American made clothes fit better and last longer and I avoid the imported crap as much as possible. Sadly the last US TV manufacturer, Philco, moved overseas decades ago.

Yes, it did.. Why do you think that is?

You see, you are kind of hitting on the main problem with Trump's policy. He wants to punish American consumers for choosing Chinese products. What we need to be doing is finding ways to make American industry more competitive.

Instead, Trump has put on the "Redneck Tax", but the rednecks are too stupid to realize they are the ones being punished.

View attachment 260943
MAGA!!!!!

/——/ The putative environmental regulations, labor laws and tax burdens pushed the manufacturers overseas.

Cheap labor cost pushed the manufacturers overseas, they pay the workers 10-25% what they pay US workers, which produces massive savings.

No US worker will work for $3/hour.

You seem to incorrectly think the the US is stronger with more minimum wage jobs. False, the US is substantially wealthy and stronger with more high paying advanced jobs. If your job skills are on par with some illiterate in a 3rd world country you have a problem, and that is your own fault.

Would you rather pay $40k for a car or $43k? $80 for an air conditioner, or $150? That's a no-brainer- have fun trying to win that argument...

/----/ 'No US worker will work for $3/hour.'
EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO WILL. WAITER'S, BARTENDERS, AND COMMISSION SALES PEOPLE.

 

[The Banker]

/——/ Oh you’re 100% correct. American made clothes fit better and last longer and I avoid the imported crap as much as possible. Sadly the last US TV manufacturer, Philco, moved overseas decades ago.

Yes, it did.. Why do you think that is?

You see, you are kind of hitting on the main problem with Trump's policy. He wants to punish American consumers for choosing Chinese products. What we need to be doing is finding ways to make American industry more competitive.

Instead, Trump has put on the "Redneck Tax", but the rednecks are too stupid to realize they are the ones being punished.

View attachment 260943
MAGA!!!!!

/——/ The putative environmental regulations, labor laws and tax burdens pushed the manufacturers overseas.

Cheap labor cost pushed the manufacturers overseas, they pay the workers 10-25% what they pay US workers, which produces massive savings.

No US worker will work for $3/hour.

You seem to incorrectly think the the US is stronger with more minimum wage jobs. False, the US is substantially wealthy and stronger with more high paying advanced jobs. If your job skills are on par with some illiterate in a 3rd world country you have a problem, and that is your own fault.

Would you rather pay $40k for a car or $43k? $80 for an air conditioner, or $150? That's a no-brainer- have fun trying to win that argument...

/----/ 'No US worker will work for $3/hour.'
EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO WILL. WAITER'S, BARTENDERS, AND COMMISSION SALES PEOPLE.

Seriously, that's your great retort?

That doesn't even make sense and isn't even relevant to the discussion. Maybe you want to try again, perhaps you should ask somebody for help?

 

[Cellblock2429]

/——/ Oh you’re 100% correct. American made clothes fit better and last longer and I avoid the imported crap as much as possible. Sadly the last US TV manufacturer, Philco, moved overseas decades ago.

Yes, it did.. Why do you think that is?

You see, you are kind of hitting on the main problem with Trump's policy. He wants to punish American consumers for choosing Chinese products. What we need to be doing is finding ways to make American industry more competitive.

Instead, Trump has put on the "Redneck Tax", but the rednecks are too stupid to realize they are the ones being punished.

View attachment 260943
MAGA!!!!!

/——/ The putative environmental regulations, labor laws and tax burdens pushed the manufacturers overseas.

Cheap labor cost pushed the manufacturers overseas, they pay the workers 10-25% what they pay US workers, which produces massive savings.

No US worker will work for $3/hour.

You seem to incorrectly think the the US is stronger with more minimum wage jobs. False, the US is substantially wealthy and stronger with more high paying advanced jobs. If your job skills are on par with some illiterate in a 3rd world country you have a problem, and that is your own fault.

Would you rather pay $40k for a car or $43k? $80 for an air conditioner, or $150? That's a no-brainer- have fun trying to win that argument...

/----/ 'No US worker will work for $3/hour.'
EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO WILL. WAITER'S, BARTENDERS, AND COMMISSION SALES PEOPLE.

Seriously, that's your great retort?

That doesn't even make sense and isn't even relevant to the discussion. Maybe you want to try again, perhaps you should ask somebody for help?

/——/ Yes, I just shot down your not so clever claim no one will work for $3 and hour. Oh and non exempt management who puts on long hours.